Apr 08, 2026 Board of Trustees and Superintendent's Workshop Agenda and Notice

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THE TIME IS 4:06 P.M.. WE HAVE A QUORUM AND THE MEETING HAS BEEN DULY POSTED.

[1. Notice and Return]

IF YOU'RE ABLE, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN US FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE SALUTE TO THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE.

TEXAS. ONE STATE, UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

THE FOLLOWING TRUSTEES ARE PHYSICALLY PRESENT AND A QUORUM OF THE BOARD IS PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT THIS LOCATION.

TRUSTEE FOR DISTRICT ONE. LANCE CURRIE, TRUSTEE FOR DISTRICT TWO.

SARAH WEINBERG, TRUSTEE FOR DISTRICT THREE. DAN MATEUSZ.K, DISTRICT FOUR.

PRISMA GARCIA, DISTRICT FIVE. BYRON SANDERS, DISTRICT SIX.

JOYCE FOREMAN, DISTRICT SEVEN. BEN MCKEE, DISTRICT NINE.

AT TURNER. OUR SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS DOCTOR STEPHANIE LAZARD, JOINS US.

AND I'M JOE KARLA AND TRUSTEE FOR DISTRICT EIGHT AND BOARD PRESIDENT.

IN ORDER FOR THE BOARD TO HOLD THIS MEETING IN EFFECTIVE MANNER, I WANT TO LET IT BE KNOWN THAT THIS MEETING WILL BE CONDUCTED IN ORDERLY FASHION AND ASK THE PUBLIC TO ABIDE BY THE RULES OUTLINED IN BOARD POLICY B, E, D LOCAL PERTAINING TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. IT IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE FOR A PERSON WITH INTENT TO PREVENT OR DISRUPT A LAWFUL MEETING, TO SUBSTANTIALLY OBSTRUCT OR INTERFERE WITH THE ORDINARY COGNITIVE MEETING BY PHYSICAL ACTION OR UTTERANCE, AND THEREBY CURTAIL THE EXERCISE OF OTHERS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

SPEAKERS ARE CAUTIONED. WHAT THEY SAY COULD VIOLATE THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS UNDER THE LAW OF DEFAMATION OR INVASION OF PRIVACY. AND IF THEY'RE INSURED, THE LEGAL EFFECT OF THEIR REMARKS, THEY MAY WANT TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE PRIOR TO THE UTTERANCE. ANY PERSON WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS, DISRUPTIVE OR FAILS TO ABIDE BY THE RULES OF THIS ASSEMBLY WHILE ADDRESSING THE BOARD WHILE ATTENDING THIS MEETING, SHALL BE ASKED TO LEAVE. FAILURE TO LEAVE WHEN REQUESTED TO DO SO MAY RESULT IN THE PERSON BEING ESCORTED FROM THE MEETING AND SUBJECT TO ARREST. TRUSTEES WILL TURN TO AGENDA ITEM TWO B RECOGNITION OF PUBLIC OFFICIALS IN THE AUDIENCE.

I DO NOT SEE ANY. SO TRUSTEES WILL TURN TO AGENDA ITEM THREE PUBLIC FORUM.

OUR AGENDA CALLS FOR PUBLIC FORUM MEETING. HOWEVER, I WAS INFORMED NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR THIS PARTICULAR MEETING, SO TRUSTEES WILL TURN TO AGENDA ITEM FOR CLOSED SESSION.

HOWEVER, THE BOARD WILL NOT RETIRE TO CLOSED SESSION HERE AT THIS WORKSHOP.

SO TRUSTEES WILL NOW TURN TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE.

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WE'LL BEGIN. WE WILL BEGIN, HOWEVER, WITH FIVE A THE POST LEGISLATIVE UPDATE WITH MISS LUIS MARTINEZ.

OKAY. HI, EVERYBODY, I JUST LOST. I CAN'T SEE THE THE BOARD RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M HOPING THAT YOU CAN HEAR ME AND SEE ME.

YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OKAY, LET ME JUST START OFF BY JUST GIVING SOME GENERAL OBSERVATIONS REGARDING THE INTERIM AND GOING INTO THE 90TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION. FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT MY BELIEF IS THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO APPETITE FOR SPENDING ANY MORE DOLLARS ON PUBLIC EDUCATION.

GENERALLY, MEMBERS BELIEVE THEY PUT IN A LOT OF MONEY LAST SESSION, AND THERE IS NO INTEREST TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN OR SEE IF THERE IS UNDERFUNDING THAT HAS OCCURRED, EVEN WITH ALL THESE SCHOOLS AND DISTRICTS THAT ARE HAVING TO CLOSE CAMPUSES AND ARE HAVING DEFICITS.

THERE'S JUST NO APPETITE. THIS HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY A POLL, A RECENT POLL THAT THE TEXAS SCHOOL ALLIANCE, OF WHICH OF COURSE, DALLAS ISD IS A MEMBER. AND OF COURSE, DOCTOR ELIZALDE IS ON THE BOARD AND WILL SOON BE, I THINK, PRESIDENT OF TSA GOING INTO NEXT SESSION.

BUT THE POLL WAS OF COURSE, A STATEWIDE POLL AND SEVERAL THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF IT WAS THAT THERE APPEARS TO BE NOMINAL SUPPORT FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION, JUST GENERALLY.

AND EVEN THOUGH WITH THAT SUPPORT OF PUBLIC EDUCATION, IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THE VOTERS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN SPENDING ANY MORE MONEY ON PUBLIC EDUCATION. I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. AND KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE GO INTO NEXT SESSION.

THE THIRD THING I WOULD SAY, WHICH FITS INTO ALL OF THIS, I DO THINK THERE IS A FATIGUE WITH LEGISLATORS REGARDING PUBLIC PUBLIC EDUCATION MATTERS.

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SO LET'S START WITH A REVIEW OF THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE INTERIM CHARGES.

LET ME FIRST START OFF BY SAYING THAT HISTORICALLY, AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 50 YEARS NOW, STARTING IN 1975 IT HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY AFTER A REGULAR SESSION ENDS WITHIN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, MAYBE 3 TO 5 MONTHS, THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE DEVELOP AND PREPARE AND DISTRIBUTE INTERIM CHARGES.

SO IT GIVES THE COMMITTEES A GOOD 14 MONTHS TO HOLD HEARINGS AND PREPARE THEIR FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

AS YOU KNOW, THESE INTERIM CHARGES WERE JUST DISTRIBUTED AFTER THE PRIMARY, AND NOW THESE COMMITTEES ARE LOOKING AT WHEN TO MEET.

AND SO I'D SAY PROBABLY EARLY MAY IS WHEN MANY OF THE COMMITTEES WILL START AND THEY WILL HAVE UNTIL OCTOBER, END OF OCTOBER TO FINALIZE THE REPORT. SO AGAIN, THAT'S SIX MONTHS, SIX MONTHS TO HOLD HEARINGS, DEVELOP RECOMMENDATIONS. THESE CHARGES OBVIOUSLY LOOK AT ALWAYS THE LEGISLATION, MONITOR THE LEGISLATION THEY PASS FROM THE REGULAR SESSION. THAT'S PART OF ALL THE COMMITTEE'S JURISDICTION, AND THEY WILL.

BUT THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS PROMOTING OR INVESTIGATING SPECIFIC ISSUES.

SOME OF THOSE ISSUES CAN BE VERY PERSONAL AND IT CAN BE BASED ON ANECDOTES.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE THREE THINGS THAT THAT WORK TO DEVELOP THESE INTERIM CHARGES.

I THINK THE POWERPOINT IS UP. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS.

WE'RE GOING TO BREAK IT DOWN BY SENATE AND THE HOUSE.

WHAT I'VE DONE IS TO FIRST OF ALL SUMMARIZE THE SENATE CHARGES, ALL OF THE COMMITTEES COMBINED.

THIS IS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS FIRST PAGE HERE, WHICH I THINK IS PAGE FOUR.

AND IT'S JUST PURELY A SUMMARY. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.

OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY THAT ON ALL THE COMMITTEES I HAVE TRIED TO INDICATE TO YOU WHO THE DALLAS DELEGATION MEMBERS ARE. SO AND THEY'RE IN ITALICS. SO OBVIOUSLY FOR THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE, WE'VE GOT SENATORS TAN PARKER AND ROYCE WEST THAT ARE PART OF OUR DELEGATION MEMBERS ON THESE COMMITTEES.

DONNA CAMPBELL IS A BRAND NEW CHAIR. SO EVEN THOUGH SHE'S BEEN SITTING ON THE COMMITTEE FOR SEVERAL SESSIONS, SHE'S BRAND NEW TO THIS AND SHE'S RIGHT NOW TRYING TO GET HER STAFF.

SHE HAS NO STAFF FOR THE SENATE EDUCATION COMMITTEE, SO SHE'S WORKING TO ENSURE THAT LISTED, AS YOU CAN SEE, ARE ALL THE ISSUES THAT THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH.

I WOULD SAY TO YOU, OVERALL, THE SENATE IS INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT HOW, AS USUAL, HOW ARE YOU SPENDING YOUR DOLLARS? FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE FACILITIES FOR THOSE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE HAD TO CLOSE FACILITIES, WHAT ARE THE DISTRICTS DOING ABOUT THOSE FACILITIES.

AND ALL THIS IS IN RELATION TO YOUR ENROLLMENT DECLINE ACROSS THE STATE.

WE'RE SEEING THAT OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE SEEING THAT ENROLLMENT DECLINED.

SO HOW ARE YOU DEALING WITH THE DOLLARS THAT THEY GAVE YOU? NOW THAT WE'VE GOT A DECLINE. SO GET FACILITIES IF YOU'RE HAVING TO CLOSE THEM WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THEM STAFFING UP.

ARE YOU ELIMINATING STAFFING POSITIONS. BUT WHAT ARE YOU DOING AGAIN? HOW ARE YOU SPENDING YOUR DOLLARS TOWARD STAFFING NEEDS? AND THE THIRD THING IS, HOW ARE THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS SPENDING THOSE DOLLARS AND WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS THE CORE MISSION OF EDUCATING YOUR STUDENTS. AND I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE HERE THAT AS WE WALK INTO THIS NEXT SESSION, EVERYTHING WE TALK ABOUT NEEDS TO BE ABOUT THE STUDENT.

NOT THAT IT HASN'T BEEN IN THE PAST, BUT IT REALLY NEEDS TO ABOUT HOW.

HOW ARE WE DEALING WITH OUR STUDENTS AND THE EDUCATION OF OUR STUDENTS? LET'S FLIP TO THE NEXT PAGE. AS WE WALK THROUGH SOME OF THESE COMMITTEES, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, WE'VE GOT SENATORS BOB HALL AND ROYCE WEST. YOU CAN SEE AND IT'S GOING TO BE PERVASIVE THROUGHOUT THE CHARGES.

AND THAT IS OF COURSE ALWAYS HOW DO WE PROVIDE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF.

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WE FACE THIS OBVIOUSLY LAST SESSION. WHAT'S IMPORTANT HERE TO NOTE IS, OF COURSE, THAT DALLAS HAS BEEN THE RECIPIENT OF HOLD HARMLESS PROVISIONS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF SESSIONS WE'VE HAD TO. WITH THE CHANGES IN ALL THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION INCREASES, WE HAVE LOST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. LAST SESSION, WE COULD HAVE LOST OVER $60 MILLION HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR ED RAMOS.

AND OF COURSE, OUR GREAT SUPERINTENDENT, DOCTOR ELIZALDE, WHO REALLY WAS DOWN HERE ADVOCATING FOR THE FACT THAT WE COULD NOT LOSE OUR HOLD, HARMLESS PROVISIONS AS THEY WERE PROVIDING PROPERTY TAX RELIEF TO THE VOTERS.

SO THIS IS AGAIN, GOING TO BE AN ISSUE FOR DALLAS ISD FOR THIS NEXT SESSION.

AND CERTAINLY DURING THE INTERIM, THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMMITTEE, WE HAVE SENATOR SHANNON PARKER, WHO IS WHO IS VICE CHAIR. THEY'RE LOOKING AT CONTINUING TO LOOKING AT JUVENILE JUSTICE.

THE SECOND ISSUE ON THIS WILL BE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

AND HOW ARE WE USING THAT IN OUR CLASSROOMS, IN OUR SCHOOLS? THE NEXT PAGE. HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMITTEE ON THAT MONITORING SENATE BILL 25 THAT THEY PASSED LAST SESSION REGARDING NEW STANDARDS FOR OUR FOOD LABELING AND OUR SCHOOLS.

LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE, THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG ISSUE THERE.

AGAIN, WE HAVE PROPERTY TAX ISSUES. PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND THE 65 YEAR AND OLDER.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE BONDS, THE DISCUSSION OF BONDS, ELECTIONS, CAPS, ALL OF THAT WILL ALSO BE PART OF THE INTERIM DISCUSSION AND WILL BE A BIG ISSUE FOR US NEXT SESSION.

PAGE EIGHT. THIS IS A BRAND NEW COMMITTEE. AND REMEMBER, I TOLD YOU THAT SOMETIMES THESE ISSUES ARE VERY PERSONAL.

THIS COMMITTEE IS VERY PERSONAL. AGAIN, IT'S BRAND NEW.

PHIL KING, WHO WAS THE CHAIR, WAS A SPONSOR OF THE TEN COMMANDMENT BILL.

YOU CAN SEE THAT'S LISTED FRONT AND CENTER ABOUT THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.

I THINK WHERE THEY'RE GOING WITH THIS IS TO HAVE BOARDS LIKE YOU HAVE DONE FOR YOUR, YOUR UI, LIKE PARTICIPATION FOR PRIVATE HOME SCHOOLERS TAKING A PUBLIC VOTE.

AND I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO MAKE DISTRICTS DO A PUBLIC VOTE ON OPTING OUT OF DISPLAYING THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.

BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT, AND OF COURSE, THE, THERE'S A LAWSUIT THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW WITH SEVERAL TEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE HAVE SUED ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS BILL. AND OF COURSE, YOU CAN LOOK AT SENATE BILL 11 RELATING TO THE PRAYER AND READING OF THE BIBLE.

MORE EMPHASIS, MORE EMPHASIS ON THIS. THE NEXT PAGE WE START WITH THE HOUSE INTERIM CHARGES.

AGAIN, I'VE DONE THE SAME THING, KIND OF PUT TOGETHER A ONE PAGE OF ALL THE, THE ISSUES, THE STUDY, WHAT THEY'RE STUDYING, AND THEN WHAT THEY'RE MONITORING.

THE NEXT PAGE 11 IS THE HIGHER ED COMMITTEE. YOU'VE GOT A DAVIS ON THIS COMMITTEE.

THAT IS A MEMBER OF OUR DELEGATION. THIS ISSUE WE NEED TO MONITOR BECAUSE IT WILL POTENTIALLY IMPACT OUR DUAL CREDIT AND CTE PROGRAMS. SO WE NEED TO BE WATCHING FOR THIS.

HOMELAND SECURITY HOUSE BILL 33 RELATING TO ACTIVE SHOOTER INCIDENTS AT PRIMARY AND SECONDARY SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT.

THE FOLLOWING PAGE 12. JUDICIARY AND CIVIL JURISPRUDENCE COMMITTEE GOT JESSICA GONZALEZ ON THIS COMMITTEE.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE MONITORING THE CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE EDUCATOR MISCONDUCT WITH REGARDS TO AGAIN, MISCONDUCT OF, OF OUR, OF OUR SCHOOL EMPLOYEES.

AS YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME NEW LEGISLATION THAT PASSED LAST SESSION SESSION HOUSE BILL 4623 LOOKING TO SEE HOW THEY CAN TIGHTEN THAT UP.

WE HAVE PENSIONS AND INVESTMENTS. JOHN BRYANT, LINDA GARCIA ARE ON THAT COMMITTEE.

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THIS IS I DID NOT TAKE EVERY CHARGE, BUT KIND OF HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE BILLS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.

I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ONE OF THE CHARGES THAT'S NOT LISTED HERE, BUT IS PART OF THEIR INTERIM CHARGE IS LOOKING AT THE CELL PHONE POLICY.

REMEMBER, THERE'S A BAN ON CELL PHONES IN SCHOOLS.

YOU HAD TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THAT AND CREATE A POLICY ON CELL PHONES.

BUT I DO THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT MAYBE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE USE OF CELL PHONES FOR SOME OF THE COURSES, LIKE CTE, LIKE FINE ARTS, LIKE MAYBE SCIENCE THAT MAYBE CELL PHONES WOULD BE IMPORTANT WITH REGARDS TO INSTRUCTION.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT. PUBLIC HEALTH COMMITTEE LOOKING AGAIN AT SENATE BILL 25 NUTRITION STANDARDS.

SAME THING AS THE SENATE STATE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.

NEXT PAGE. RAFAEL MENTIONED AVADAVIS ARE ON THIS COMMITTEE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.

THIS TOO IS IS ALSO INCLUDED IN SOME OF THE SENATE INTERIM CHARGES LOOKING AT FOUNDATIONS.

HOW DO FOUNDATIONS GET THEIR MONEY? HOW HOW IS THAT MONEY SPENT? THEY WANT THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT MAYBE THERE BEING A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH MANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE SITTING ON THESE FOUNDATIONS AND THE RELATIONSHIPS THEY HAVE WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL AS THAT SAME ISSUE IS GOING TO BE IN GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT, WHICH WE'LL GET TO IN A FEW MINUTES. THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE LOOKING AT SPEED ENFORCEMENT AND SCHOOL ZONES.

THE FOLLOWING PAGE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE. THERE AGAIN, ALL YOUR PROPERTY TAX ISSUES, BOND ISSUES, ETC.. MAJOR ISSUE FOR BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE.

THEN YOU HAVE THE GOVERNMENTAL OVERSIGHT SELECT COMMITTEE.

YOU CAN SEE THE THREE BIG ISSUES LISTED HERE THAT AFFECT US AGAIN.

EDUCATION FOUNDATION'S IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER DISCUSSION IN THIS COMMITTEE.

AND THAT IS A VERY QUICK SUMMARY THAT YOU CAN TAKE SOME TIME AND LOOK AT AND KIND OF SEE WHAT WHAT THE INTERIM CHARGES ARE AND HOW MANY OF THESE CHARGES IMPACT PUBLIC EDUCATION.

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR US? IT MEANS WE'VE GOT TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR BE ON TOP OF IT FOR THE NEXT 6 TO 7 MONTHS BEFORE SESSION. I WOULD SAY THAT SOME OF THE TAKEAWAYS FROM ALL OF THESE ISSUES WILL BE SOME LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED LAST TIME, FOR EXAMPLE, OR RESTRICTIONS FOR ADMINISTRATORS WITH REGARDS TO PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, PROFESSIONAL TRAINING SPECIFICALLY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE KASBO AND TASSA AND TCS, ALL WHO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP TRAINING FOR OUR EDUCATORS ARE LOOKING AT CONTINUING TO LOOK AT RESTRICTIONS ABOUT HOW THAT'S OCCURRING AND HOW THOSE MONIES ARE BEING SPENT.

SPECIAL EDUCATION. YOU MAY AS YOU KNOW, LAST SESSION THERE WAS MAJOR CHANGES IN SPECIAL EDUCATION CONTINUING.

SPECIAL EDUCATION FUNDING REVISIONS AND RULES AND REGULATIONS.

YET WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE, THE, THE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY STRAIN, BUT CERTAINLY THE RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SPECIAL ED EVALUATIONS FOR ALL THOSE, THOSE STUDENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THE ESSAY ELIGIBILITY, THE EDUCATION SAVINGS ACCOUNT ELIGIBILITY. SO WHILE THINGS ARE CHANGING, WHILE FUNDING CONCERNS CONTINUE, WE ARE HAVING TO PROVIDE THESE EVALUATIONS FOR THESE STUDENTS.

BONDS AND PROPERTY TAX LEGISLATION. I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THAT ENOUGH BECAUSE IT WAS A HUGE ISSUE FOR US IN REGULAR, A HUGE FIGHT FOR US IN THE SPECIAL SESSIONS FOLLOWING THE REGULAR IT WILL AGAIN BE A HUGE CONCERN AND FIGHT FOR US DURING THE NEXT UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE SESSION. AND THE LAST THING I WOULD MENTION IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL BIG PICTURE, THINGS WILL BE THE TECHNOLOGY AND AI. I THINK THERE SEEMS TO BE FROM AT LEAST SEVERAL LEGISLATORS I'VE TALKED TO IN THE LAST JUST COUPLE OF WEEKS, A REAL CONCERN ABOUT TOO MUCH SCREEN TIME.

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SO I THINK THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT RESTRICTIONS ON PARTICULARLY IN LOWER GRADES, BUT HOW MUCH SCREEN TIME IS REQUIRED.

AND THIS MIGHT BE AND GO BEYOND THE LOWER GRADES BUT OVERALL A REAL INTERESTED IN. MAYBE WE'VE ALSO DONE TOO MUCH WITH REGARDS TO THE TECHNOLOGY.

MAYBE THAT'S BEEN A DETRIMENT TO OUR STUDENTS.

SO I DO THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE KIND OF A PERVASIVE ISSUE AND DISCUSSION WITH BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE.

SO LET ME JUST CONCLUDE THIS PART OF IT WITH WITH REGARDS TO THE HOUSE AND SENATE INTERIM CHARGES, AS YOU RECALL, I SAID THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE A FATIGUE BY LEGISLATORS IN DEALING WITH EDUCATION MATTERS.

AND YET WE HAVE SO MANY CHARGES HERE. WE HAVE SO MANY COMMITTEES THAT WE HAVE TO MONITOR.

I HAVE TO SAY, THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST INTENSE INTERIM CHARGES I'VE SEEN EVER, FRANKLY SO MANY COMMITTEES ARE DEALING WITH PUBLIC EDUCATION ISSUES OR ISSUES THAT WILL AFFECT IMPACT US.

SO, YOU KNOW, IS THERE IF THERE'S A FATIGUE WITH LEGISLATORS DISCUSSING PUBLIC EDUCATION AND SUPPORTING EDUCATION EDUCATION.

WHY DO WE HAVE SO MANY CHARGES? WELL, I JUST WOULD SAY TO YOU THAT IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE US TO DO BE VERY ACTIVE IN THIS PROCESS AND TO STAY ON TOP OF WHAT ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WILL ULTIMATELY LEAD TO.

FOR THE REGULAR SESSION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PART, BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO NOW TALK ABOUT THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION.

Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IS THIS A GOOD TIME OR WOULD YOU RATHER WAIT TILL THE END? I THINK IT'S BEST IF WE WAIT TILL THE END. VERY GOOD.

TRUSTEES, HOLD YOUR QUESTIONS FOR THEM. PERFECT.

OKAY. WELL, THE NEXT PART OF THIS OF THE PROGRAM I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION.

FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THAT WE ANTICIPATE WILL WE KNOW WILL HAVE FIVE BRAND NEW MEMBERS COMING IN JANUARY, WE MAY HAVE ACTUALLY SIX NEW MEMBERS TO THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WELL, I THINK WHAT IT WILL MEAN IS THAT IF ANYTHING BASED ON THE CANDIDATES NOW, THE POTENTIAL OF THE BOARD BECOMING MORE ATTUNED, MORE FOCUSED ON POLITICAL FIGHTING RATHER THAN FOCUSING ON GOOD POLICY IS EXTREMELY HIGH. IT'S BEEN DIVISIVE FOR QUITE A WHILE, BUT I THINK IT, IT OBVIOUSLY WILL CONTINUE, IF NOT BECOME MORE DIVISIVE. AGAIN, FOCUSING ON POLITICS AND NOT GOOD POLICY.

THEY ARE IN MEETING THIS WEEK. SEVERAL OF US WERE IN A MEETING THIS MORNING AND HEARD FROM DOCTOR KEVIN ELLIS, WHO WAS CHAIR OF THE STATE BOARD FOR MANY YEARS, BUT APPARENTLY THEY MET YESTERDAY FROM 830 TO 130 THIS MORNING.

AND WHAT WERE THEY MEETING ON? THEY WERE MEETING ON THE DISCUSSION OF INCLUDING BIBLE READINGS.

NOW IN OUR. THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GOING. I THINK ULTIMATELY THEY WILL PROVIDE A NUMBER OF READINGS AND WILL GIVE THE COMMISSIONER THE ABILITY TO DECIDE AT LEAST WHICH TWO WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE ENGLISH CURRICULUM MOVING FORWARD.

SO A HUGE ISSUE. THE SECOND BIG ISSUE IS REGARDING THE SOCIAL STUDIES CURRICULUM.

I THINK THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE AS PART OF THE OVERHAUL OF SOCIAL STUDIES, WILL THEY WILL THEY EMPHASIZE CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALS IN BOTH OUR STATE AND NATIONAL HISTORY STANDARDS? AND IF THEY DON'T INCLUDE AS MUCH. I THINK THERE WILL BE LEGISLATION NEXT SESSION THAT WILL REQUIRE THE STATE BOARD TO REVIEW THAT AND PROVIDE ANOTHER OVERHAUL OR OR THERE WILL BE LEGISLATION TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT CHRISTIANITY, FUNDAMENTALS THAT NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE CURRICULUM.

SO THOSE ARE THE TWO ISSUES THAT ARE HAPPENING ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW THIS WEEK.

IN SUMMARY, I WOULD SAY TO YOU THAT THE KEY IS ALWAYS TO MONITOR AND BE PREPARED TO ADVOCATE POSITIONS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO DALLAS ISD. AND I KNOW THAT DOCTOR ELIZALDE AND HER TEAM WILL BE LOOKING AT PRIORITIES AND ISSUES THAT ARE CRITICAL TO DALLAS ISD AND THEY'RE VERY CAPABLE AND THEY'RE EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE AT KEEPING DALLAS ISD DELEGATION MEMBERS

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AND I THINK FINALLY, HOW DO WE, WHAT DO WE DO TO GET READY FOR NEXT SESSION BESIDES COMING UP WITH A PLAN? I THINK THAT PLAN NEEDS TO BE REALLY ABOUT SOLUTIONS TO ISSUES THAT WERE PASSED LAST SESSION. SOLUTIONS ABOUT HOW TO MAKE THINGS MORE EFFECTIVE.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE CELL PHONE POLICY. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE IS, IS AN ISSUE WHERE WE NEED TO GIVE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE USE OF CELL PHONES AND SOME OF THE INSTRUCTIONS, SOME OF OUR COURSES.

SO AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO BE EFFECTIVE, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE WITH WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF THEIR PRIORITIES.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO COME IN AND TRY TO UNDERMINE, BUT RATHER FOCUS ON HOW TO IMPROVE WHAT WAS DONE LAST SESSION. SO THAT IS VERY BRIEF UPDATE GETTING READY FOR NEXT SESSION, WHICH IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER. AND I AM SO HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. TRUSTEES QUESTIONS. I SEE TRUSTEE MITCH GAVE FIRST. YEAH. TRUSTEE MICCICHE. YEAH.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT SUMMARY. AND YOU STARTED OUT BY SAYING THAT THERE'S NO APPETITE IN THE LEGISLATURE FOR ADDITIONAL PUBLIC FUNDING. IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR. OKAY. I DID SAY THAT. BUT THERE IS A LITTLE.

THERE'S A LOT OF APPETITE TO DO OTHER THINGS RELATING TO PUBLIC EDUCATION.

AND AND YOU MENTIONED THE BOND ISSUE. WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON THERE? IT'S DAN IT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST SESSIONS.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALWAYS LIMITATIONS ON THE BONDS.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT YOU KNOW, AGAIN CAPPING HOW MUCH WE CAN.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE TRANSPARENCY OF, OF BONDS.

THEY FEEL THAT OUR ABILITY TO HAVE THESE LOCAL BONDS IS OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO, WHICH IS TO PUSH DOWN FUNDING BECAUSE IT IMPACTS PROPERTY AND VOTE AND VOTERS, RIGHT? SO FOR THEM, THEY'RE DOING ALL THESE THINGS TO GIVE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF IN THEIR MIND, SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE GOING OUT FOR THESE BOND ELECTIONS.

AND THIS APPLIES TO CITIES TOO. IT'S ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT INCREASES THE TAXES, THE VERY THING THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO DURING THE SESSION BY BY GIVING PROPERTY OWNERS A RELIEF.

SO IT IS THERE'S, THERE'S SO MANY BILLS THAT WE WERE FIGHTING ON AND DEALING WITH DURING LAST SESSION AND THE SPECIAL SESSIONS THAT OCCURRED RIGHT AFTERWARDS.

FROM GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, EVERYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF WITH REGARDS TO OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE LOCAL FUNDING FOR THINGS THAT WE NEED, WHICH IS MAINTENANCE OF FACILITIES, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO I HOPE I ANSWERED THAT QUESTION. OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND I ALSO HEARD THAT ONE OF THE PROPOSALS IS TO HAVE A SUPERMAJORITY OF VOTERS TO PASS A BOND. IS THAT STILL IN THE MIX? WELL, IT PROBABLY WILL BE, BUT IT WOULD BE DEFINITELY A SUPERMAJORITY OF THE BOARD TO TO TO INITIATE A BOND PROPOSAL. AND WHICH DID NOT PASS, BUT WE GOT GOT VERY CLOSE TO ACTUALLY PASSING BUT WAS DEFEATED AT THE LAST HOUR. SO ALL THE, ALL THOSE THINGS WILL BE, I BELIEVE WILL BE.

DISCUSSED. LET ME TURN TO A DIFFERENT TOPIC AND THAT, THAT IS THE ISSUE OF INFLATION.

AND TO WHAT EXTENT WERE WE ABLE TO GET SOME AUTOMATIC INFLATION ADJUSTMENTS? I MEAN WE OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING WE ASKED FOR, AND WE DIDN'T EVEN GET A FULL ADJUSTMENT FOR THE INFLATION BETWEEN 2019 AND AND

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CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THE. DAN, I'M SORRY, I HAVE TO I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, LOOK AT EXACTLY WHAT EXACTLY WE PASSED IN THAT THAT LAST SESSION. I KNOW IT WAS PART OF OUR, OUR, MY UPDATE THAT I PROVIDED RIGHT AFTER THE REGULAR.

BUT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT I DO NOT THINK THAT THERE WILL BE ANY MORE FLEXIBILITY OR, OR, OR CONCERN ABOUT TRYING TO ADDRESS THE INFLATION DIFFERENCES AT THIS POINT.

I, I DO NOT SEE THAT IN THE CARDS AT ALL FOR WHERE WE'RE GOING FOR NEXT SESSION.

OKAY. I MEAN, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE A FUNDING DIFFERENCE, RIGHT? OF WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE AND WHAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE STATE.

YEAH. I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING THERE'S AN INFLATION ADJUSTMENT TIED TO THAT NEW CONCEPT OF ADJUSTMENT FOR BASIC COSTS.

BUT BUT BUT I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT. THE LAST THING I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT WAS THE QUESTION OF VOUCHERS IS THAT IS, IS THAT SORT OF IN THE MIX AS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE EXPANDED? I, I, OF COURSE THAT'S, THEY'RE GOING TO MONITOR THAT.

RIGHT. AND, AND BOTH IN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE.

THEY'RE, I DON'T SEE THEM PUTTING ANY MORE MONEY TOWARDS IT RIGHT NOW FOR NEXT SESSION.

THEY MAY GO BACK AND LOOK AT CHANGING SOME OF THE PRIORITIES BECAUSE, AS YOU MAY HAVE READ, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CONTROVERSY ABOUT ALL THE ELIGIBILITY WITH REGARDS TO SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS AND AND THE COST.

AND DO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE DOLLARS? IS THERE ENOUGH? BUT I DON'T SEE THEM PUTTING IN MORE MONEY INTO THE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. THANK YOU ALAN. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. TRUSTEE SANDERS.

ONE, NICE TO MEET YOU. I'M. I'M ONE OF THE NEW GUYS HERE.

IT IS VERY DISAPPOINTING TO HEAR THAT, THAT THERE IS SO LITTLE APPETITE TO, TO LOOK AT OUR FUNDING GIVEN WHAT'S HAPPENED.

URBAN RURAL SUBURBAN DISTRICTS ALL OVER THE STATE.

IT JUST MEANS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR OWN COMMUNITY.

OWN CONSTITUENTS. HOPEFULLY THEY CAN HELP PUSH THAT A BIT.

DAN ASKED THE QUESTION I HAD ABOUT VOUCHERS ON IF THEY WERE GOING TO DOUBLE DOWN.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT THAT ANSWER THERE. I'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THE SIGNALS THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM OUR FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF ED. AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WE HEAR FROM THE WHITE HOUSE TO THE HEAD OF THE AGENCY THAT THAT THEY'RE PUSHING MORE AND MORE OF THE RESPONSIBILITY BACK DOWN TO STATES, STATES, CHOICE STATES EFFECTIVENESS AND, AND ULTIMATELY STATES FUNDING. AND I'M, I'M INTERESTED HAS, HAS ANYONE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT HOLDING BOTH OF THOSE THINGS AS TRUE IS WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE? BECAUSE WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS WE ALREADY SAW THEY TRIED TO PULL BACK ON FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT WERE ALREADY ASSIGNED.

I'M CONCERNED THAT AS WE KEEP GOING FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO GET FEWER FEDERAL DOLLARS AND NO CHANGE FROM THE STATE.

HAS ANYBODY BROUGHT THIS UP AT ALL? OH.

THERE'S BEEN SOME WITH SOME OF THE SCHOOL ALLIANCE.

I'M SURE YOU'VE HAD THEM WITH THE URBAN COUNCIL GROUPS.

HOPEFULLY NOT SO MUCH OF THE GROUPS HAVE FEDERAL ADVOCACY, RIGHT? IMPORTANT. THE LAW FIRM THAT I'M ASSOCIATED WITH DOES BUT OVERALL, YOU'RE RIGHT ON TARGET.

WITH. ELIMINATION AND ELIMINATION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ED. VERY MUCH SUPPORT. YES.

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BUT LET ME CHECK WITH OUR ATTORNEYS TO SEE IF THAT'S OKAY.

FOR THE PERSON WHO'S PRESENTING TO DO, SHE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO KEEP OUR VIDEO ON.

OKAY, WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO DO BOTH RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE SIGNAL IS NOW WEAK.

YES. YOU WANT TO TRY AGAIN, LUAN, BECAUSE YOU BROKE UP? CAN YOU CAN YOU NOW? IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S. NOW YOU YOU SEEM OKAY.

LET'S TRY AGAIN. OKAY. OKAY. I'M NOT SURE WHERE I LEFT OFF, BUT GENERALLY I WANTED TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN ABOUT FEDERAL DOLLARS IS ON TRACK.

THERE IS A CONTINUAL DISCUSSION AND INTEREST ABOUT PULLING AWAY FROM THE OBVIOUSLY GETTING RID OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ED, PUTTING THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND DIFFERENT STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES.

I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OTHER THAN THOMPSON AND HORTON, THE LAW FIRM THAT I'M ASSOCIATED WITH.

THEY HAVE FEDERAL ADVOCACY. BUT HOW MUCH OF THIS, THIS IS BEING DISCUSSED BY OTHER EDUCATION, EDUCATION? I CANNOT SAY. BUT ALLIANCE HAS, HAS OFTEN PROVIDED INFORMATION TO OUR MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT MAY. I KNOW I'M NOT. YEAH. LUJAN, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU AT ALL NOW.

I'M NOT BEING. SPECIFIC WITH YOU. IT'S JUST BECAUSE THERE'S NO ONE THAT I KNOW RIGHT NOW WHO HAS AN ADVOCACY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME AT ALL RIGHT NOW? YES. IT WAS CHOPPY THERE, BUT WE CAN HEAR YOU RIGHT NOW.

YES. OR NO, ACTUALLY WE CAN'T. YEAH. WE CAN'T.

WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. I NEED TO REPEAT ANYTHING.

APOLOGIES. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. WE SEEM TO HAVE KIND OF A CHOPPY SIGNAL.

LOST A SIGNAL. I'M SO SORRY. NO. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU.

IT'S TRUSTEE. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, I JUST HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, BUT I DON'T.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, I, I HEAR YOU, I, I HEAR YOU, AND I KNOW, I KNOW, MISS MARTINEZ WILL BE OPEN TO TAKING QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AFTER THIS, AND WE CAN DEFINITELY GET THOSE RESPONSES TO US AT A LATER TIME.

TRUSTEE WEINBERG YOU'RE TRYING TO GIVE IT A SHOT, JUST YOUR LIGHTS ON. YES, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. GO AHEAD.

CAN YOU HEAR US? LUAN. I CAN HEAR YOU. FINE. MY QUESTION, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

ONE IS AN UNDERSTANDING KIND OF AT THE 10,000 FOOT LEVEL OF THE BOND CONVERSATION BECAUSE BONDS ARE A REFERENDUM VERSUS A LEGISLATIVE ACTION. TO WHAT DEGREE ARE LEGISLATORS PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT VOTERS, CITIZENS WANT WHEN THEY ARE VOTING FOR THE BONDS? WELL, WHEN, DURING THIS DURING THE INTERIM, AS THEY START TALKING ABOUT THIS, THEY'RE THEY'RE COLLECTING DATA.

IN FACT, THERE WAS A BILL THAT PASSED LAST SESSION THAT REQUIRED A DATABASE, A BANK OF OF LOCAL BONDS. AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT, I THINK VERY MUCH SO IN TERMS OF THEIR RESPONSE AND WHAT THEY WANT WITH REGARDS TO RECOMMENDATIONS WITH REGARDS TO BONDS.

I GUESS THAT IS A WAY IT'S IT'S A DIFFERENT IT'S A DIFFERENT MECHANISM.

AND THAT VOTERS THEMSELVES WITHIN THE LOCAL, LOCAL AREA CAN, CAN EXPRESS WHAT THEY WANT VERSUS BEING TOLD AT THE STATE LEGISLATIVE LEVEL, WHAT THEY CAN HAVE. IS THERE ANY ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THAT OR NOTING OF THAT UNDER UNDER STATEWIDE? WELL, I WOULD SAY YES. I MEAN, YES AND NO. ULTIMATELY WHAT AGAIN, WHAT THEY LOOK AT.

BIG WHITE. BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHY? THAT'S A NUMBER ONE ISSUE FOR VOTERS.

THEY LOOK AT THAT AND THEN THEY LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE LOCAL LEVEL WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS INCREASING TAXES IN MANY CASES. AND THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR THEM. THAT'S WHY THEY WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT SCHOOLS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE ABLE TO DO OR

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OKAY. AS A FOLLOW ON QUESTION, THEN, IF IN FACT, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD JUST IN THE PRESS EXPRESSED ONE OF THE POTENTIALS FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR PROPERTY TAXES TO BE ELIMINATED IN THAT CASE, HOW ARE THINGS FUNDED? WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD OF THE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT IS THAT VISION OR WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S AN OLD, AN OLD ISSUE AND IT'S GOING TO COME UP AGAIN.

BUT THE IT CAN'T BE. THEY CAN'T. IT'S IT'S BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

NO, THERE IS NO WAY TO INCREASE TAXES ENOUGH TO PROVIDE WHAT IS BEING DONE NOW.

SO THEY COULD NOT THEY COULD NOT, CANNOT AFFORD TO ELIMINATE THE PROPERTY TAX.

CANNOT DO IT. SO YOU'VE HEARD NO ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS PROPOSED OR ANY.

JUST JUST JUST RHETORIC. OH, THE OVER THE YEARS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT INCREASING SALES TAX.

ALL, ALL KINDS OF FRANCHISE TAGS. WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO IT, ULTIMATELY TO COMPENSATE FOR THE LOSS OF THE PROPERTY TAX.

OKAY. AND REMEMBER, WE HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL PROHIBITION AGAINST INCOME TAX.

SO YOU'RE LEFT WITH VERY LITTLE AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT ENOUGH TO TO AGAIN, COMPENSATE FOR THE PROPERTY TAX.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR FOR YOUR ANSWERS. APPRECIATE IT.

TRUSTEE. SO EXCUSE ME. I JUST HAVE A MAYBE 2 OR 3 QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST ONE IS, IS. YES, MA'AM. WITH THE FACT THAT THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T PLAN TO GIVE ANY ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO PUBLIC EDUCATION.

HAVE THEY DISCUSSED RECAPTURE? WELL, THEY DISCUSSED RECAPTURE EVERY SESSION WHEN THEY DEAL WITH THE SCHOOL FINANCE BILL. AND AS WE'VE INCREASED HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, AS WE'VE INCREASED THE 65 YEAR AND OLDER, ALL THOSE THINGS DO HELP TO DECREASE RECAPTURE DOLLARS.

BUT AND THAT'S WHY WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO DALLAS ISD BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE HOLD HARMLESS PROVISIONS THAT PROTECT US SCHOOL DISTRICTS LIKE DALLAS FROM GETTING HIT HARD.

WITH REGARDS TO, FOR EXAMPLE, RECAPTURE. SO I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SCHOOL FINANCE AGAIN.

I MEAN, THEY JUST PASSED THE BIG SCHOOL FINANCE BILL AND SPECIAL SESSION.

SO I DON'T SEE THEM LOOKING AT RECAPTURE AND CHANGES IN THE ACTUAL SCHOOL FINANCE SYSTEM.

SO WHAT ABOUT ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS? ARE THEY GOING TO BE LOOKING AT CHARTER SCHOOL FUNDING ALSO? WELL, CHARTER SCHOOLS, I TO PUBLIC SCHOOL FUNDING.

ALL I CAN TELL YOU ON THAT IS THE STATE BOARD, THE COMMISSIONER CONTINUE TO, TO ADD MORE CHARTER SCHOOLS.

RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S AN AUTOMATIC FUNDING SYSTEM FOR THEM.

SO DO I. I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SEPARATE OUT AND DO SOMETHING SPECIFIC FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT THEY CONTINUE THE STATE BOARD AND COMMISSIONER CONTINUE TO, TO APPROVE MORE CHARTERS.

OF COURSE, WE KNOW THAT HAS AN EFFECT ON YOUR REGULAR ISDS BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE LOSE STUDENTS BASED ON THAT AND STUDENTS IS LOSING FUNDING. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. AND SO THEY ABSOLUTELY, I'M ASSUMING THEY REALLY DO UNDER UNDERSTAND THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION. YES. THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAD.

OKAY. TRUSTEE CURRY THANK YOU SO MUCH. FIRST ON THE QUESTION OF BONDS AND THE LEGISLATURE'S EFFORT TO LIMIT THEM, WHAT I ECHO TRUSTEE WEINBERG'S COMMENT THAT THE VOTERS ARE APPROVING THESE.

SO IT SEEMS ODD THAT THE LEGISLATURE KEEPS WANTING TO IGNORE THE VOTERS AND PUT LIMITS ON SCHOOL DISTRICTS ABILITY TO MAINTAIN THEIR FACILITIES.

BUT MY QUESTION IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATURE CONTINUES TO LIMIT BONDS.

THAT IS THE RESOURCE WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN OUR PROPERTY.

HAVE THEY DISCUSSED WHAT ALTERNATIVE WE'RE GOING TO BE USING IF WE AREN'T ALLOWED TO ISSUE BONDS TO DO THAT, OR DO THEY JUST EXPECT OUR SCHOOLS TO NOT BE MAINTAINED? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. WELL, THAT'S NOT THE ANSWER I WANTED, BUT NOT THAT ONE.

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WELL, I SAY THAT, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD CAPS YET.

SO WE, WE HAVE I GUESS WE'VE BEEN EFFECTIVE. AND KEEPING CAPS OFF THE THE STATUTE. I THINK WE'VE BEEN EFFECTIVE IN SO MANY AREAS, PARTICULARLY DEALING WITH LAST SESSION AND WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO TO US, BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST IT'S JUST A BIG ISSUE WITH THE VOTERS STATEWIDE. I JUST, THEY ALL, I THINK THE VOTER STATEWIDE REALLY BELIEVE THAT LOCAL FUNDING GOVERNMENT, THE GOVERNMENT, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE TOO MUCH AUTHORITY WITH REGARDS TO PASSING THESE THESE BONDS.

I GUESS I HAVE TO PUSH BACK ON THAT BECAUSE VOTERS IN DALLAS IN 2020 DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, OR IN 2015 OR IN 2008. SO IT SURE SEEMS LIKE VOTERS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES WANT TO TRY TO TELL OUR COMMUNITY WHAT TO LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO MAINTAIN OUR SCHOOLS.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE TO ME. AND I GUESS I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO IF THEY'VE GOT SOME CREATIVE ALTERNATIVE.

BUT I MEAN, OUR BOND THAT IS UP IN FRONT OF VOTERS RIGHT NOW WOULD REPLACE 26 SCHOOLS THAT ARE THAT AVERAGE 70 YEARS OF AGE.

AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THAT THE SOLUTION IS WE SHOULD JUST LET OUR SCHOOLS GET TO 100 OR 100 AND 20 OR 150.

SO HOPEFULLY THE LEGISLATURE WILL BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN AN ALTERNATIVE.

NEXT ON THE VOUCHER ISSUE, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION LAST SESSION THAT I DON'T BELIEVE MADE IT INTO THE FINAL BILL ON BUILDING SOME SORT OF ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURE SO THAT WE HAVE SOME ABILITY TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS THROUGH VOUCHERS ARE ACTUALLY CREATING EFFECTIVE EDUCATION.

WE HAVE SIMILAR METRICS FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS AND THE TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY HAS USED THOSE TO SHUT DOWN CHARTER SCHOOLS THAT HAVE BEEN NOT EDUCATING STUDENTS THE WAY THEY NEED TO. IS THERE ANY APPETITE TO PUT IN SOME MEASURE SO THAT WE KNOW WHETHER THE MILLIONS OR BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING ARE ACTUALLY BEING EFFECTIVE. THERE WILL BE SOME DISCUSSION OF THAT, BUT I, I BELIEVE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THOSE MEMBERS SITTING ON THOSE COMMITTEES.

ARE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. THAT'S NOT THE ANSWER YOU WANT, BUT I KNOW THAT IS I FEAR WHAT MAY HAPPEN. THAT IS WHAT I THINK.

WELL, AND I DO WANT TO SAY, LOOK, THERE ARE SOME WONDERFUL QUALITY PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT ARE IN MY DISTRICT AND OTHERS, AND I AM NOT TRYING TO SPEAK ILL OF PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN GENERAL.

I THINK FAMILIES SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEST FOR THEMSELVES.

BUT WHEN YOU ADD GOVERNMENT DOLLARS TO THE MIX, BEING ABLE TO FOLLOW WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE IS IMPORTANT, AND I'M PARTICULARLY WORRIED ABOUT WHETHER WE HAVE A REPLICATION OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH CHARTER SCHOOLS, WHERE WE HAVE POP UP SCHOOLS SHOWING UP, YOU KNOW, WITH VERY LIMITED HISTORY.

RIGHT? AND WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE AN ABILITY TO MONITOR THEIR EFFECTIVENESS.

AND THAT'S CONCERNING. AND I CERTAINLY HOPE THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T WAIT UNTIL THE HORRIBLE NEWS ARTICLE COMES OUT TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

BUT I, I HAVE TO SAY, I HAVE TO SAY I'M SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.

I, I HAVE TO SAY THAT SOMETHING CHANGED, THAT THE DYNAMIC CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY LAST SESSION IN DISCUSSIONS LEADING UP TO ACTUALLY HAVING A VOUCHER OR THE ESSAY. ONE THING WE COULD ALWAYS COUNT ON, ON THESE REPUBLICANS WHO WANTED A VOUCHER WAS THE FACT THAT HOW CAN WE SPEND, HOW DO WE EXPLAIN TO OUR VOTERS THAT WE'RE WILLING TO PUT TAX DOLLARS IN AN INSTITUTION FOR WE HAVE NO ACCOUNTABILITY.

WHY ARE WE WHERE WE HAVE SO MANY RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS THAT THEY WANT, THAT THEY'RE SPENDING BECAUSE THEY'RE SPENDING THEIR MONEY ON HOW HOW IS IT AND WHAT HAPPENED WHEN TAXPAYERS SAY WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS NOT GOOD FOR THE GANDER? THEY DID ALL OF A SUDDEN LAST SESSION. THE DYNAMICS CHANGED.

NO INTEREST. WE WERE ALL SHOCKED BECAUSE AGAIN, UP UNTIL THOSE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE SESSION, WE HAD MEMBERS WHO SAID, NO, WE AGREE.

IF WE'RE GOING TO USE TAX DOLLARS IN THE PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS, WE'VE GOT TO THIS LEVEL OUT THE PLAYING FIELD.

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THERE'S NO APPETITE OR OUTCRY FOR TRYING TO CREATE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD RIGHT NOW. SO I HOPE WITH LIKE YOU, THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR A REPORT THAT COMES BACK AND WE SEE SUCH DEVASTATION.

BUT I, I THINK SOMETIMES THAT'S WHAT WE DO WITH LEGISLATION.

THEY PASS IT AND IT MAY TAKE A DECADE, BUT THEN THERE SEEMS TO BE AN INTEREST AND SUPPORT, WONDERING, HOW DID WE GET LIKE THIS AND HOW DO WE FIX IT? THAT'S THAT'S MY GOOD NEWS FOR THAT ISSUE. I HAVE THREE MORE QUESTIONS.

IT'LL BE SHORTER. ONE I KNOW IT'S PART OF THE, THE VOUCHER PROGRAM.

YOU KNOW, SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS NEED TO BE ASSESSED.

AND I KNOW OUR DISTRICT HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT ASSESSMENT.

AND I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH PARENTS AND OTHERS ABOUT THAT AND TRYING TO CONNECT THOSE RESOURCES. BUT THAT OF COURSE, TAKES TIME AND RESOURCES FROM OUR DISTRICT TO FULFILL THOSE PROGRAMS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF COMPENSATING? YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SCHOOLS OR HELPING THEM HAVE THE DOLLARS NEEDED TO FACILITATE THESE PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS? WELL, THAT'S ONE OF THE INTERIM CHARGES.

AND THAT'S ALSO, TO ME, A BIG PICTURE ITEM THAT WE NEED TO BE VERY ACTIVE IN OVER THE INTERIM AND INTO THE SESSION THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO HAVE TO DO THESE EVALUATIONS AND AS THE FINANCES GET MORE RESTRICTIVE AND AS THE RULES CHANGE IN SPECIAL ED, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TO ADVOCATE AND STATE, THIS IS WHAT IT'S COSTING US AND THIS IS THE REALITY.

SO WE NEED TO BE VERY ENGAGED IN THIS ISSUE. NEXT ON THE COMMENTS RELATED TO RELIGIOUS TEXTS FOR THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION IS LOOKING AT ANOTHER. YOU KNOW, THE MONITORING OF SB TEN AND 11.

I'VE I'VE SPOKEN FROM THE DAIS ABOUT MY THOUGHTS ON THESE.

I'M A CHRISTIAN MAN AND VERY PROUDLY SO, BUT BUT ALSO HAVE A REAL STRUGGLE WITH GOVERNMENT PICKING AND CHOOSING WHICH, WHICH FAITHS ARE THE GOOD FACE AND THE BAD ONES.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT AGAIN. WHAT I REALLY AM JUST ASKING ABOUT IS I THINK THERE'S A HIGH PROBABILITY OF LITIGATION THAT WILL ENSUE FROM BOTH THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION'S ACTS AND YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL CONTINUING ACTS OF THE LEGISLATURE. HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION OF PROVIDING FUNDING TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO BE ABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST THIS LITIGATION WHEN THESE ARE BEING IMPOSED UPON OUR DISTRICT RATHER THAN US HAVING A SAY? LEGISLATURE IF THEY WERE TO GET MORE INVOLVED IN THE CURRICULUM BECAUSE THE STATE BOARD DID NOT GO FAR ENOUGH.

THEY CERTAINLY WOULD NOT BE INTERESTED IN PROVIDING ANY FUNDING TO HELP LITIGATE THE ISSUE.

ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE FULL OF GOOD NEWS TODAY. BUT NO, I DO APPRECIATE THE CANDOR AND NOT UNEXPECTED.

LAST ONE I HAD WAS THERE WERE SEVERAL DIFFERENT CHARGES TALKING ABOUT EVALUATING THE EFFICACY OF EXPERTS.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY DON'T LIKE EXPERTS IN PUBLIC EDUCATION AND WANT TO TRY TO LIMIT THEM IN SOME WAY? OR ARE THEY WANTING TO ENCOURAGE MORE EXPERTS AND COME UP WITH INCENTIVES TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT? THAT TERMINOLOGY IS VAGUE TO ME, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. YEAH.

AND I'M NOT SURE ANY OF US DO OTHER THAN I DO THINK THAT THEY HAVE CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LEGITIMACY OR THE TRANSPARENCY OF THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING PAID TO THESE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, WHICH IS WHY THEY PASSED THIS BILL THAT THAT NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE CONTINUING TO STUDY AND LOOK AT.

SO AGAIN IT'S THEY, THEY'RE QUESTIONING, IT'S ALL ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, ALL ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.

HOW ARE YOU USING THESE DOLLARS? WHAT ARE THEY USED FOR? ARE THESE GOOD ORGANIZATIONS OR NOT? SO YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH TIME THEY WILL ACTUALLY SPEND ON THAT? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN INTEREST EXPRESSED BY SEVERAL MEMBERS TO ME PERSONALLY, EVEN ABOUT THAT ISSUE. WELL, I MAY OFFLINE EITHER ASK YOU OR ASK CHIEF THELANDER TO.

I DID NOT REALIZE OR DON'T UNDERSTAND FULLY WHAT WAS PASSED LAST SESSION ON THIS TOPIC, AND I'D LOVE TO UNDERSTAND IT SOME MORE.

SO THANK YOU. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. YEAH. THANK YOU.

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TRUSTEE. ANYONE ELSE FOR ROUND ONE? IF I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE, THEN I'LL GO ROUND TWO.

TRUSTEE SANDERS QUICK CLARIFYING QUESTION. LUAN, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE HAD ALREADY BEEN SOME LAWSUITS RELATIVE TO THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. BILL, WERE THOSE WERE THOSE LAWSUITS FOR IMPLEMENTATION TRYING TO PUSH IMPLEMENTATION OR WERE THEY LAWSUITS AGAINST IMPLEMENTATION? IT LAWSUITS AGAINST. IT WAS TEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT INITIATED THE LAWSUIT.

OKAY. TO, TO, TO NOT HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. TEN COMMANDMENTS.

THANK YOU. AND MY, MY LAST NOTION IS, YOU KNOW, AS WE START TO COME UP WITH OUR OWN DISTRICT AGENDA, I UNDERSTAND WHAT MIGHT BE THE CURRENT TENOR OF THE LEGISLATION.

THE LEGISLATURE, BUT I CAN'T SEE A WORLD. OR AS THIS TRUSTEE.

I CAN'T SEE. SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I CAN'T SEE A WORLD WHERE WE DON'T AT LEAST PASSIONATELY, DEFTLY. AND I THINK WITH COMMON SENSE RATIONALE ADVOCATES.

ADVOCATE FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING GIVEN THE, THE WORLD THAT WE'RE IN.

SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE NOT BEING HAD AND THE CONVERSATIONS CONSIDERING THE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT SOURCES OF PRESSURE POINTS THAT WE'RE FACING.

I THINK WE, I THINK WE HAVE TO, AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO FIGURING OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT CASE AND WHERE, WHERE OUR ALLIES COULD BE DOWN THERE IN AUSTIN.

SO THOSE ARE MY LAST THOUGHTS, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR.

THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. IT'S IMPORTANT. CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY.

JUST TO REMIND THE BOARD, WE'RE YOU'RE SITTING IN DALLAS COUNTY AND TALKING ABOUT AN ANOMALY OF THE.

THE STATE OF TEXAS IN TERMS OF WHO YOUR VOTERS ARE AND WHO YOUR DELEGATION MEMBERS ARE.

AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT YOU'VE GOT ALL YOUR DELEGATION MEMBERS, I, I.

I'VE WORKED WITH THEM FOR MANY YEARS AND I KNOW THERE ARE SO SUPPORTIVE OF DALLAS ISD.

THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF MORE MONEY FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION.

THEY ARE THEY ARE OPPOSED TO. THEY WERE OPPOSED TO THE EDUCATION SAVINGS.

I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY ARE PHILOSOPHICALLY ALIGNED.

WITH WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FOR OUR KIDS.

BUT THEY'RE A MINORITY. THEY'RE MINORITY. SO.

AND, AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN TO SAY THAT YOU STOP ADVOCATING FOR WHAT'S RIGHT.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT APPROACHING THIS SESSION IS IT'S BEEN HARD THE LAST COUPLE OF SESSIONS.

BUT THIS NEXT SESSION IS GOING TO BE AS DIFFICULT, IF NOT MORE DIFFICULT.

BECAUSE OUR DELEGATION IS DIFFERENT THAN AND OUR VOTERS ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE MAJORITY OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.

SO THANK YOU. THAT'S THE REALITY. SURE. THANK YOU, MISS MARTINEZ.

TRUSTEE FURTHER QUESTIONS? NOT SEEING ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION FOR TAKING OUR QUESTIONS.

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. AND I'M SORRY ABOUT THE ZOOM LINK NOT BEING STRONG ENOUGH, BUT I, I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND IT WAS GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU.

LIKEWISE. THANK YOU. YOU. TRUSTEES, WE WILL NOW TURN TO FIVE. I THINK IT'S MAYBE D ON YOURS. TEAM BUILDING WITH MISS KATHY MINCBERG.

KATHY, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? GOOD, GOOD. OKAY.

I'M RECORDING. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR INVITING ME TO HAVE FUN WITH YOU TODAY.

TALKING ABOUT YOUR TEAM OF. WELL, WE'RE NOT TEAM OF EIGHT.

WE'RE A TEAM OF TEN. AND IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO BE IN A BIG DISTRICT THAT HAS SOME OF THE BIG DISTRICT PROBLEMS THAT I'VE WATCHED EVERYBODY STRUGGLE WITH FOR YEARS. SO HEARING THE REPORT MADE ME FEEL BAD ONCE AGAIN OF HOW IT IS TO BE ON THE LARGE URBAN DISTRICT, POINTY END OF THE STICK. THIS IS WHAT WE AT CRSS CONSIDER THE REFORM GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK.

THIS IS YOUR WORK AND WE'VE DESIGNED THIS SORT OF EVALUATION TO BE AROUND THAT WORK,

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IT'S REALLY PRETTY TIGHTLY FOCUSED ON SETTING THE BIG DIRECTION FOR THE DISTRICT.

MEASURING THAT BIG DIRECTION, HOW WELL IT GOES.

HOLDING THE ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE FOR HOW THAT'S HAPPENING.

HAVING THE CHANCE FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE INPUT.

YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY POWERFUL.

AND WHEN I WAS A NEW BOARD MEMBER, I DID NOT BELIEVE THAT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL ABOUT TEARING THE SUPERINTENDENTS AGENDA APART LINE BY LINE AND FINDING PROBLEMS, OR HELPING THE SUPERINTENDENT FIGURE OUT THEIR AGENDA OR THEIR BUDGET OR A PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

ONCE I BACKED OFF AND BEGAN TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE AND IT STARTED IN A CAR RIDE HOME FROM A RETREAT.

THERE WERE FOUR BOARD MEMBERS IN THE CAR, AND WE SAID WE DECLARED OUR PASSION FOR WANTING TO IMPROVE PUBLIC EDUCATION.

AND WHAT WAS OUR ROLE? AND WE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR ROLE WAS, AND FINALLY DECIDED OUR ROLE WAS TO BRING THE COMMUNITY FORWARD.

WHAT IS OUR COMMUNITY BELIEVE ABOUT WHAT WE WANT? AND THAT ENDS UP WITH CORE BELIEFS AND COMMITMENTS.

AND WE ACTUALLY WROTE A DOCUMENT THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT AT THE TIME THREW IN THE TRASH AND REFUSED TO EXECUTE, AND WE EVENTUALLY HAD TO GO THROUGH TWO SUPERINTENDENTS UNTIL WE FOUND ONE WHO AGREED THAT THAT WAS OUR PLAN AND THAT THEY WOULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK.

SO YOUR BIG WORK IS THE BIG STUFF, YOUR MISSION, YOUR VISION, YOUR CORE BELIEFS.

THEN WHAT ARE THE THEORIES OF ACTION WHERE YOU ACTUALLY TURN IT INTO? WHAT ARE THE LEVERS THAT TURN THOSE BELIEFS INTO ACTION? AND FROM THAT YOU DEVELOP REFORM POLICIES, PROBABLY NOT MORE THAN A HANDFUL IN YOUR ENTIRE CAREER.

IT'S NOT ALL THOSE MANY POLICIES THAT GO THROUGH TASB.

THAT'S JUST THE REGULAR STUFF. THE BIG REFORM POLICIES ARE WHERE YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO, IN A MAJOR WAY, CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR OF PEOPLE, EITHER STUDENTS OR THE COMMUNITY OR STAFF.

AND THOSE REFORM POLICIES TAKE A LOT OF WORK, USUALLY A YEAR BEFORE YOU GET ONE IN PLACE THAT REALLY DOES WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, AND THEN YOU GOT TO TRACK IT. YOU GOT TO MEASURE IT.

DID IT DO WHAT I THOUGHT I WOULD DO? SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING THERE IN THAT MIDDLE PART OF THE CHART, IS ACTUALLY ESTABLISHING A GOOD PROCESS FOR HAVING BOARD MEETINGS, FOR HAVING TRAININGS, FOR MONITORING RESULTS, REPORTING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND BUILDING CIVIC CAPACITY SO THAT HOPEFULLY YOUR COMMUNITY WILL SUPPORT YOU WHEN YOU GO OUT AND ASK FOR THINGS BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND WHY YOU'VE DONE IT.

SO THAT'S THE WORK OF THE BOARD AND THIS LITTLE BRIEF SUMMARY RUBRIC EVALUATION IS A CHANCE FOR US TO, AS A GROUP, DISCUSS SOME OF THOSE BIG JOBS THAT YOU HAVE AND HOW WELL IT'S GOING.

AND IT'S THE DISCUSSION THAT'S RICH, NOT NECESSARILY WHETHER YOU MARKED IT NOT PRESENT, PARTLY PRESENT OR FULLY PRESENT.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, HAVING DONE THIS MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES, I'M PRETTY IMPRESSED.

YOU GUYS SEEM TO AGREE WITH WHERE WHERE THINGS ARE.

SO IT'S NOT GOOD OR BAD THAT THINGS ARE NOT FULLY IMPLEMENTED.

BUT THE FACT YOU ALL KNOW THAT AS A GROUP IS VERY IMPRESSIVE.

AND SO MOST PEOPLE ARE PRETTY CLUSTERED AROUND WHAT THEY THINK IS HAPPENING, AND YOU'RE IN PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THAT.

BUT DESPITE THAT, THESE ARE ALL WONDERFUL TOPICS THAT ARE A CHANCE FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ON HOW IT'S GOING IN VARIOUS AREAS, AS WELL AS FOR YOU TO INTERNALIZE THE FEEDBACK AS A GROUP.

HOW AM I DOING? HOW IS THIS FEELING? SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU KIND OF GO THROUGH THESE A LITTLE ONE AT A TIME.

AND IF THERE'S A QUESTION OR A CHANCE, IF YOU FEEL MOVED TO TESTIFY, THAT WOULD BE SUPER LIKE YOU THINK I DISAGREE WITH THAT. AND HERE'S WHY. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I REALLY THINK WE'VE DONE WELL WITH THAT. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT TO HEAR THAT FROM YOU.

SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT OUT. FOR EXAMPLE, NUMBER ONE SAYS ALL BOARD MEMBERS VIEW ALL CHILDREN ACHIEVING AT HIGH LEVELS. AND ALMOST ALL OF YOU SAID FULLY PRESENT.

NINE SAID FULLY PRESENT, ONE PARTIALLY PRESENT.

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JUST TO WARN YOU, BUT YOU AS A GROUP CLEARLY THINK EVERYBODY HERE CARES ABOUT ALL THE KIDS.

AND THAT'S LOVELY. THAT'S REALLY NICE. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE ANSWER YOU GET IN MANY DISTRICTS.

SO I WANT YOU TO INTERRUPT ME. IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SAY, DON'T.

I'M NOT GOING TO STAND AND GO AROUND AND SAY.

DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? PLEASE STOP ME AND SAY, I HAVE A THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

NUMBER TWO, THE BOARD HAS A PROVED CORE BELIEFS AND COMMITMENTS FOR HIGH STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT AND EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE OPERATIONS.

WE HAVE ONE, PARTLY AND NINE FULLY PRESENT. SO YOU GUYS BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE CORE BELIEFS OUT THERE THAT YOU CAN TALK TO YOUR COMMUNITY ABOUT AND THAT DRIVE THE WORK OF THIS DISTRICT? YES, SIR. I, I'M OUTING MYSELF. I WAS THE PARTLY PRESENT BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT WE HAVE THAT THE, THE PARTLY PRESENT, AS I WAS READING THAT IT SAYS BOYD HAS DISCUSSED AND PERHAPS FORMULATED CORE BELIEFS AND COMMITMENTS, BUT NEVER FORMALLY. I DIDN'T FEEL ENTIRELY COMMITTED.

THE PART THAT I COULDN'T HIT FULLY PRESENT ON IS BOARD HAS COMMUNICATED ITS CORE BELIEFS TO STAFF AND COMMUNITY.

OKAY. AND I THINK AND I THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT'S PROBABLY FAIR.

YEAH. AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US GOING THROUGH THIS EXERCISE TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE EFFECTIVELY, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATE THAT TOP TO BOTTOM THROUGHOUT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THEY KNOW WHAT WE STAND FOR AND WHAT WE'RE ABOUT.

IF YOU THINK THEY'RE IMPORTANT ENOUGH, THEN HOW ARE YOU CONVEYING THEM AND WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY VERSUS THE ADMINISTRATION'S RIGHT? YEAH, AS I SAID, IT TOOK US GOING THROUGH TWO SUPERINTENDENTS TILL WE GOT SOMEBODY WHO SAID, OH, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE CORE BELIEFS OF THE BOARD.

AND I GAVE A SPEECH TO ALL THE STAFF. IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THE BOARD HAD SAID TO THE STAFF, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH. AND IT HAD BEEN YEARS AND THAT NOBODY KNEW.

WE WERE OVER HERE REALLY WORKING HARD AND THE STAFF HAD NO IDEA WHAT WE WANTED TO GET DONE.

SO REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET THOSE TWO THINGS ALIGNED.

AND THEN IF YOU CAN GET YOUR COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU WANT TO GO, REALLY POWERFUL STUFF.

SO YOU THINK THERE'S STILL SOME MORE WORK TO BE DONE? OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. I ALSO PUT PARTIALLY PRESENT.

SO. OKAY. SO MY QUESTION IS TO WHAT DEGREE DOES THIS CORE BELIEF AND COMMITMENTS RELATE TO OUR GOALS AND CONSTRAINTS? PROBABLY JUST ANOTHER WORD FOR IT. OKAY. I'M JUST CURIOUS.

YEAH. BECAUSE DIFFERENT TERMS MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE A BIG CORE COMMITMENT, A CORE BELIEF, AND THAT TRANSLATES INTO SOME GOALS.

OKAY. NUMBER THREE, THE BOARD HAS A CLEAR STATED THEORY OF ACTION THAT PROVIDES FOR AN OVERARCHING STRATEGY FOR ACHIEVING ITS GOALS.

I HAVE SIX, PARTLY PRESENT AND THREE FULLY PRESENT.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS SOME CONFUSION ON WHAT THAT THEORY OF ACTION IS.

WHAT YOU'RE TRYING. WHAT ARE WHAT ARE THE WHAT IS.

HOW IS THE ADMINISTRATION GETTING DONE? THOSE KEY GOALS THAT YOU HAVE.

IS THAT. YES, SIR. WELL, SO I WAS ONE OF THE FOLLIES, BUT THIS IS ONE I DEBATED THE MOST BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A THEORY OF ACTION.

IT'S IN OUR LOCAL POLICY, AND I WAS TRAINED ON IT.

WHEN I GOT BORED AND READ THROUGH IT. BUT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED IT IN A LONG TIME THAT I RECALL, AND REALLY TALKED ABOUT HOW IT DIRECTLY RELATES TO OUR GOALS AND CONSTRAINTS.

SO BASED ON THE DEFINITIONS I PUT FULLY, BUT I COULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE PARTLY ANSWER AS WELL.

SO EVEN THOUGH YOU SEE IT FULLY, YOU THINK THERE HASN'T BEEN ENOUGH VISIBILITY? POSSIBLY. I KNOW IT EXISTS. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AT THE DAIS OR WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS IN PARTICULAR ABOUT IT.

AND I BELIEVE IT'S EXISTED SINCE BEFORE OUR LAST SET OF GOALS AND CONSTRAINTS.

PROBABLY IT HAS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE ANSWER WILL BE AFTER WE LOOK AT THOSE GOALS AND CONSTRAINTS AND WE COMPARE IT TO OUR THEORY OF ACTION.

IT'S EXACTLY WHERE WE NEED TO BE. OR MAYBE WE NEED TO REVISIT, BUT I COULD I COULD SEE BENEFIT IN HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.

SO WHEN YOU REVISIT GOALS AND CONSTRAINTS, THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SAY AND LET'S REITERATE AND WE HAVE RECENTLY DONE THAT.

SO MAYBE THAT OPPORTUNITY IS NOW TO GO BACK AND AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR CURRENT THEORY OF ACTION OF MANAGED.

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ARE YOU AN EMPLOYEE, A MANAGED PERFORMANCE EMPOWERMENT, MANAGE PERFORMANCE WITH EARNED AUTONOMY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT TERMINOLOGY. SO YOU HAVE A MANAGED INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAM, BUT YOU EMPOWER SOME SCHOOLS BASED ON HOW WELL THEY'RE DOING TO CONTROL MORE AND MORE OF THE DECISIONS.

OKAY, THAT'S MANAGED PERFORMANCE EMPOWERMENT OR THAT'S WHAT WE CALL IT.

I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT BECAUSE I WAS IN THE SAME CAMP FULLY PRESENT BECAUSE WE HAVE IT, IT'S EXPLICIT.

IT'S CLEAR IT'S ALIGNED. ALTHOUGH I THINK TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, I KNOW IT'S ALSO CHANGED WHAT THAT MEANS SINCE IT WAS INCEPTED A LONG TIME AGO.

AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. I KNOW AT ONE POINT THIS BOARD, DURING THE GOAL SETTING PROCESS, TALKED ABOUT, IS IT TIME TO LOOK AT OUR VISION AND MISSION AND THEORY OF ACTION GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

SO I THINK THERE'S A REALLY GOOD POINT TO KIND OF RECERTIFY THAT THIS IS THAT EVEN THOUGH THAT'S THE BOARD WORK.

BUT THEN ALSO TO HEAR LATER ON WHAT THE SUPERINTENDENT'S PLANS ARE AND HOW THEY'RE ARTICULATING HOW WE'RE DOING THIS, BECAUSE THAT'S CLEARLY SUPERINTENDENT WORK. BUT TO SEE THAT ALL PUT TOGETHER, I THINK MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY. OKAY, GOOD. GOOD FEEDBACK. THANK YOU. NUMBER FOUR, THE BOARD ANNUALLY EVALUATES THE SUPERINTENDENT BASED ON GOALS.

EVERYBODY SAID FULLY PRESENT. THAT'S TERRIFIC.

OKAY. NUMBER FIVE, THE BOARD MONITORS THE DISTRICT'S STRATEGIC PLAN AND ENSURES THE PLAN AND THE SUPERINTENDENT'S EVALUATION INSTRUMENT ARE ALIGNED WITH YOUR KEY GOALS. CORE BELIEFS ONE NOT PRESENT THREE.

PARTLY PRESENT SIX FULLY PRESENT. SO THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONFUSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THOSE THINGS ARE ALL ALIGNED AND THAT YOU ARE MONITORING THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? THIS KIND OF GOES BACK TO MY EARLIER THOUGHT.

THE REASON WHY I SAID PARTLY PRESIDENT IS BECAUSE I, AT LEAST AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE WORK THAT WE HAVE, AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME DIFFERENCES IN VOCABULARY AND SEMANTICS, BUT FOR ME, IT CONNECTS BACK TO THAT PREVIOUS PARTLY PRESENT. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL THEORY OF ACTION, WE'RE REALLY GOOD ON GOALS, PERFORMANCE, GOALS, CONSTRAINTS, AND IN PERFORMANCE AND ACCOUNTABILITY TOWARD THAT.

SO WE'RE HYPER TARGETED AND DIRECTIONAL. GOOD.

BUT ANOTHER PART OF STRATEGIC PLAN MEANS WE HAVE A LONG TIME HORIZON.

WE'RE THINKING ABOUT NOT JUST THE TACTICAL OUTCOMES NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, THE YEAR TO YEAR GOALS. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT IN NAMING THINGS THAT ARE BELIEFS THAT ARE PHILOSOPHIES, VISIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND IT FEELS LIKE TO ME, THAT'S KIND OF A PREREQUISITE TO BEING ABLE TO STAY FULLY PRESENT ON THIS.

OKAY. OKAY. SO THERE ARE SO MANY DOTS TO CONNECT TO MAKE A WHOLE.

AND SOMETIMES IT'S EASY TO SORT OF FORGET SOME OF THE DOTS OR IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THEM.

AND SO SOME OF THE SENSE OF WHOLENESS GETS LOST, RIGHT? OKAY, THANKS. I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT THE WAY I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, AND WE DO HAVE CORE BELIEFS AND COMMITMENTS.

THEY ARE LISTED EXPLICITLY IN A LOCAL. AND I THINK WHEN I READ THEM AGAIN, NOT SPEAKING FOR EVERYONE, BUT WHEN I SEE US OPERATE, I FEEL LIKE WE DO THAT PRETTY WELL AND I CAN SEE THE DIRECT ALIGNMENT. I READ THIS ONE MUCH MORE AS LIKE THAT.

IF THE BOARD NEEDS TO REVISIT THAT, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WANT TO AT SOME POINT, WE SHOULD DEFINITELY DO THAT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE RIGHT.

BUT I READ THIS ONE MUCH MORE ABOUT IS WHAT THE SUPERINTENDENT IS DOING ALIGNED TO ACHIEVING OUR GOALS WITHIN OUR WIDER BELIEFS.

AND TO ME, THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY FULLY PRESENT BASED ON THIS, EVEN IF IT'S NOT IN A SINGLE ARTICULATED DOCUMENT.

THE CHOICES AND HOW SHE HAS BEEN AND THE TEAM HAVE BEEN BRINGING THESE TO US.

THE PRE PRIMER, UNIVERSAL PRE-K, THESE KIND OF ELEMENTS FIT WITH BOTH THE CORE BELIEFS AS WELL AS THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHICH IS WHY I DID PUT FULLY PRESENT, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN.

SO WHEN THOSE THINGS ARE BROUGHT TO YOU. IS THERE A CONNECTION MADE? OH, THIS, THIS IS PART OF YOUR GOAL OR THIS IS PART OF A CONSTRAINT OR THOSE ARE MADE.

OKAY. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. OKAY, THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE DON'T FIGURE OUT ALL THOSE CONNECTIONS.

I WAS THE NOT PRESENT, BUT I'D LIKE TO. I'D LIKE TO CHANGE MY ANSWER.

YOU ARE CERTAINLY WELCOME. WHEN I WAS FILLING IT OUT AGAIN, PART OF IT IS NOMENCLATURE AND I AND WE HAVE CLEARLY ARTICULATED STRATEGIC INITIATIVES.

AND SO I THINK BECAUSE WE HAVE RECENTLY CHANGED OUR GOALS AND KIND OF FILLED ALL IN ALL THE BLANKS AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

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YEAH. YEAH. THE HARDEST THING IN THE ENTIRE WORK THAT WE DO IS ACCURATELY COMMUNICATING WITH THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE YEAH, AND IT'S NOT, AGAIN, THE SUPERINTENDENT AND HER TEAM ARE AMAZING.

AND SO I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE HELPING US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE MAYBE WHAT THE STRATEGIC ISSUES ARE.

WE STILL ARE THOSE STILL THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVES? HOW DO THINGS FIT? THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF DOING THAT. AND THEN MAYBE SORT OF HELPING US COMMUNICATE HOW SOME OF THE GOALS SPECIFICALLY ARE GOING TO GET DONE. OKAY, GOOD, GOOD, RIGHT.

I JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN ON THAT A BIT IF I COULD.

CATHY. I THINK WE DO DO THAT. WE ARE I CAN CONTRAST WHAT WE DO NOW WHERE WE NOW WE GO OVER WHAT THE GOAL IS. WE, WE GO BACK TO WHAT IS THE GOAL. AND THEN WE HAVE ALL THESE METRICS AND PERFORMANCE INDICATORS ON, ON HOW WE'RE DOING. AND THEN I COMPARE THAT TO WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE BOARD AND THERE WERE TEN BOARD GOALS AND THEY WERE ALL JUST PLATITUDES LIKE, WE WANT SAFE AND SECURE SCHOOLS, RIGHT? WORLD PEACE.

BUT, BUT, BUT WE DIDN'T DO ANY, ANY MEASURING OF THOSE GOALS.

THEY WERE JUST, THEY WERE JUST DONE ONCE A YEAR AND THEY WERE THE SAME.

THEY WERE THE SAME GOALS FOR A COUPLE OF COUPLE OF YEARS.

JUST, YOU KNOW, THINK. THINK OF WHATEVER PLATITUDE.

BUT THE ONE THAT I THOUGHT WAS SAFE AND SECURE SCHOOLS.

WELL, WE ALL WANT THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT A WAY FOR US TO, TO MONITOR GOALS AND, AND, AND HOLD THE ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE.

SO YOU FEEL LIKE NOW YOU'VE GOT VERY SPECIFIC METRICS THAT TARGET GOALS SO THAT YOU KNOW HOW WELL IT'S GOING.

ABSOLUTELY. IT'S, IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WORLD AND IT IS, IS MUCH BETTER AND DOES KEEP US FOCUSED.

YEAH, YEAH. I REMEMBER WORKING WITH A BOARD IN ARKANSAS AND I ASKED THEM HOW MANY STUDENTS THEY HAD AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW HAD NO IDEA.

SO I SAID, WELL, HOW STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT. NO IDEA.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVE MOVED SO FAR AWAY FROM WHERE BOARDS USED TO BE.

YOU JUST NEED TO APPRECIATE HOW FAR YOU'VE COME AND HOW WELL THIS IS GOING.

IF YOU'VE GOT THOSE KIND OF METRICS IN PLACE.

THANK YOU. OKAY. NUMBER SIX, THE BOARD HAS ADOPTED A COMPREHENSIVE ALIGN DISTRICT CURRICULUM AND MONITORS ITS IMPLEMENTATION.

I'VE GOT TWO PARTIES AND EIGHT PHILLIES. ANY THOUGHTS THERE? OKAY. NO THOUGHTS THEN. NUMBER SEVEN, THE BOARD MONITOR STUDENT PERFORMANCE BY GRADE, AND IT'S DISAGGREGATED BY RACE AND SOCIOECONOMIC.

I'VE GOT ONE NOT PRESENT TWO PARTIES, SEVEN PHILLIES.

SO ANYBODY WANT TO TELL ME HOW THAT COULD BE IMPROVED? MAYBE I WAS THE NOT PRESENT. I WOULD SAY THAT WE DO AN EXCELLENT JOB OF THIS.

BUT THE RUBRIC SPECIFICALLY SAYS BY SCHOOL AND WE DON'T DO IT BY SCHOOL OR FEEDER PATTERN.

SO THAT'S WHY. OH REALLY? OKAY. I GAVE IT AS IT'S NOT PRESENT.

OKAY. YOU JUST DO IT AS A DISTRICT, AS A WHOLE.

WE LOOK AT DISTRICT AS A WHOLE AND DEMOGRAPHIC GROUPS.

SO I ASSUME THE SCHOOLS GET THEIR OWN. SO THEY, THEY HAVE A THERE'S I KNOW THERE ARE DESEGREGATION FOR ALL SCHOOLS EVERYWHERE.

WHICH WAY? I WAS LOOKING AT THIS FOR THE BOARD MONITORING STUDENT PERFORMANCE DATA. WE DON'T YET MONITOR BY.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD EVER DO SCHOOL, BUT I THINK FEEDER PATTERN, WHICH COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US.

OKAY. THAT'S FAIR. NUMBER EIGHT, THE BOARD IS ACTIVE IN POLICY DEVELOPMENT AND ENSURES ITS REFORM PRIORITIES ARE CODIFIED IN POLICY. I'VE GOT FOUR PARTIES AND SIX FAMILIES.

DO YOU GUYS DO ANY POLICY DEVELOPMENT? A LITTLE YEAH.

REALLY SERIOUS POLICY WORK TAKES A TON OF TIME USUALLY BOARDS.

SCOPE OUT A DIRECTION AND THEN HAND OVER THE DEVELOPMENT TO STAFF.

BECAUSE THEY COME TO WORK EVERY DAY AND CAN PUT IN EIGHT HOURS WORKING ON SOME OF THE STUFF THAT TAKES A LONG TIME.

SO IF YOU I'VE IN PORTLAND, THEY WANTED TO HAVE A WELLNESS POLICY.

IT TOOK THEM A YEAR AS A BOARD TO CRAFT WHAT THEY WANTED TO COVER, AND THEN THE STAFF WROTE IT UP SO THEY DIDN'T END UP, YOU KNOW, HAVING THINGS IN OPPOSITION TO EACH OTHER.

BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO GIVE BIG DIRECTION ON A POLICY.

EVEN SOMETHING AS MUNDANE AS WHO GETS TO WHAT DO YOU GET TO DO WITH A CELL PHONE IN A SCHOOL ALL THE WAY UP TO REFORM POLICIES THAT TRY TO

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THE BOARD IS DILIGENT ABOUT MONITORING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ITS POLICIES.

I'VE GOT SEVEN PARTIES AND THREE FILLIES, SO HOW COULD THAT BE IMPROVED? FOR THE PEOPLE WHO MARKED.

IS THERE SOMETHING MISSING THERE FROM THE MONITORING? THAT WOULD MAKE YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE? I THINK PART OF IT IS THE SHEER VOLUME.

SO MUCH TO LOOK AT. OF POLICIES TO MONITOR. I THINK AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO.

I MEAN, YOU ONLY HAVE SO MUCH TIME. SO YOU GOT TO PICK AND CHOOSE.

YOU GOT TO PRIORITIZE. AND THE. I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC.

I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION FOR THIS. SO I'M NAMING THAT.

BUT IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO HAVE SOME SORT OF CAPACITY TO ALSO, WHERE ARE THEY NOW? FOR POLICIES THAT WE'VE PASSED TO BE ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO MONITOR EVERY SINGLE POLICY.

OH MY GOSH. OH MY GOSH, YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN KNOW.

NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THAT. BUT THERE SHOULD BE 5 OR 6.

THERE COULD BE SOME PRIORITIES, RIGHT? AND BIG PRIORITIES.

AND WE DO HAVE THOSE PRESENTATIONS, RIGHT. WE'LL HAVE THOSE PRESENTATIONS COME BACK HOW WE CHOOSE.

YOU KNOW, I'M NEWER, SO THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING FOR ME TO CONTINUE TO LEARN.

BUT THAT'S THAT'S A CHALLENGE WITH THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR.

YEAH, I WOULD DEFINITELY NOT HAVE EVERYBODY MONITORING 50 60 POLICIES WOULD BE INSANE.

SO FIGURING OUT WHAT THEY ARE AND BY THE WAY, IN THE POLICY, WHEN IT'S ADOPTED, THERE OUGHT TO BE A LINE THAT SAYS, WE WANT THE ADMINISTRATION TO TRACK IT IN THIS WAY AND GET BACK ON THIS KIND OF BASIS.

SO JUST BE SURE THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE IS IN WHEN YOU CHANGE OR ADD OR REVISE A BIG POLICY.

SO WE HAVE A KIND OF A UNIQUE SITUATION. WE HAVE BOARD POLICY AND BOARD REGULATION.

REGULATION IS DONE BY THE STAFF. RIGHT. AND POLICY IS DONE BY THE BOARD.

WELL, THE BOARD THE WAY THE BOARD IS SET UP IS WE HAVE A POLICY CHAIR, NOT A POLICY COMMITTEE.

AND THAT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM WITH TRYING TO GET POLICIES ON THE TABLE AND UNDERSTANDING POLICY.

SO SOME OF THAT NEEDS TO BE RELOOKED AT. OKAY.

FAIR FAIR. I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE. AND MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THIS BECAUSE WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE WORD POLICY, I THINK ABOUT BOARD LOCAL POLICY. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO HERE? HEAR ALL BOARD LOCAL POLICIES. WELL, YOU HAVE PROBABLY A COUPLE HUNDRED POLICIES IN YOUR POLICY BOOK FOR LOCAL POLICIES. A LOT, MANY OF THEM ARE VERY ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE.

YOU HAVE TO BE TERMINATED BY THIS DATE. YOU HAVE TO BE HIRED IN THIS WAY.

YOU KNOW THOSE ALL MAKE SENSE. THOSE ARE NOT BIG REFORM POLICIES.

IF YOU DECIDE TO PUT IN A BRAND NEW ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM OR, YOU KNOW, DECIDE THAT EVERY KID NEEDS TO TAKE A CLASSICAL MUSICAL INSTRUMENT AS A WAY TO IMPROVE STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT, YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME SERIOUS TRACKING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A BIG NEW POLICY.

YEAH, I GUESS I'M STRUGGLING WITH SO, BUT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHEN YOU SAY POLICIES, YOU ARE REFERRING TO A SUBSET OF LOCAL BOARD POLICIES.

WELL, YEAH, I GUESS I'M STRUGGLING TO DIFFERENTIATE BECAUSE I GUESS WHERE I'M STRUGGLING ON THIS IS WHEN I SEE THIS, IT'S WE'RE WE'RE MONITORING ALL POLICIES.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE ITEM THAT MOST POLICIES, EVEN IF THEY'RE BOARD POLICIES ARE, FRANKLY, ADMINISTRATIVE SUPERINTENDENT WORK, EVEN IF WE MIGHT CODIFY IT, RIGHT? YOU'RE THE ONES WHO MADE THE LAW. NOW THEY HAVE TO GO DEAL WITH IT. I STRUGGLE WITH THE IDEA OF POLICIES BECAUSE POLICIES DICTATE HOW SOMETHING IS DONE.

AND I AGREE WITH LIKE STRATEGIC DIRECTION. AND I WOULD THINK ABOUT THIS AS LIKE OUR LOCAL POLICY THAT KIND OF OUTLINES THE STRATEGIC PILLARS AND THE DIRECTION AND THE GOALS BEING VERY MUCH ABOUT SOMETHING WE WANT TO MONITOR. RIGHT. AND WE DO MONITORING IT PRETTY FREQUENTLY, WHERE MY FEAR AND I GUESS THERE'S A COUPLE OTHERS AROUND THOSE, MY FEAR IS SAYING LIKE, HOW, HOW SHOULD YOU HELP US THINK ABOUT DICTATING THE HOW SOMETHING GETS DONE AND THE SPECIFICS OF WHICH MIGHT OFTEN FALL INTO SUPERINTENDENT WORK

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HOW DO YOU HELP US SEPARATE THOSE OUT TO MONITORING AND TELLING THE SUPERINTENDENT? IT'S A CONVERSATION BECAUSE EVERY ONE OF THEM HAS A DIFFERENT LINE IN THERE.

AND WEAR SEPARATES YOUR WORK FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT'S STAFF WORK.

AND SO I WOULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION EVERY TIME YOU ADOPT A NEW POLICY, WHERE DOES THIS, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE LEFT THE BIG PICTURE AND WE'RE NOW GETTING INTO THE MICROMANAGEMENT.

AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION TO HAVE.

SO IT KEEPS EVERYBODY KIND OF HONEST. WE'RE DOING THE BIG STUFF, SUPERINTENDENTS DOING THE EXECUTION PART.

BECAUSE THERE'S NO MAGIC LINE. I MEAN, I COULDN'T GIVE YOU A FORMULA.

AGAIN, IT'S A CONVERSATION BETWEEN YOU AND THE, AND THE STAFF.

BUT AT LEAST YOU'RE DOING THE HEALTHY THING, WHICH IS HAVING THAT CONVERSATION RATHER THAN THROWING SOMETHING UP THERE.

AND, AND THEN THE STAFF STRUGGLING BECAUSE YOU'RE DOWN THERE DOING ALL THIS SPECIFIC STUFF.

WE, WE HAVE A, A PHRASE THAT WE USE CALLED NOSE IN FINGERS OUT.

SO AS YOU DEVELOP A POLICY, THE POLICY SHOULD GIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, THE SMELL OF HOW THINGS ARE GOING, BUT YOU'RE NOT WRITING HOW THEY'RE GOING. YOU'RE NOT DIRECTING HOW YOU'RE GOING.

IT, IT'S A, IT'S A WEIRD LINE. YEAH. I GUESS WHERE I CAN SEE AGREEMENT HERE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ACTUALLY DO THIS PRETTY WELL. WE HAVE CODIFIED IN OUR POLICY THE FIVE GOALS THAT WE HAVE AND THE FIVE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE, AND EXACTLY OUR FOUR CONSTRAINTS AND EXACTLY HOW WE MONITOR THEM. AND ONE OF THEM IS FINANCE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF FINANCE POLICIES, BUT INSTEAD OF MONITORING THE POLICIES LIKE C H LOCAL, WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING IS MONITORING.

ARE WE MAKING OUR INTENDED OUTCOMES IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET ON TRACK AND HAVE THREE MONTHS OF FUNDING.

AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. IS THAT WHAT THIS MEANS, AS OPPOSED TO MONITORING LOCAL AND NOW MONITORING REPORT ON CV, LOCAL, ETC.? YEAH, YOU'RE YOU'RE MONITORING THE OUTCOME, NOT THE DAY TO DAY EXECUTION OF THE MANY MOVING PARTS THAT MAKE UP FINANCE. OKAY, SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MANY MOVING POLICIES AND THE OUTCOME OF THE POLICY, WHICH WE HAVE CODIFIED. EXACTLY. I WOULD BE FOCUSED ON THE OUTCOME OF THE POLICY.

SO NOW I'M CONFUSED. IT'S OVER HERE. OH, SORRY.

SO NOW I'M REALLY CONFUSED. OKAY. BECAUSE MY BELIEF IS, IS THAT THE REASON THAT WE SEPARATED POLICY FROM REGULATION IS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION BRINGS REGULATIONS TO THE BOARD, BECAUSE THAT'S THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS.

WE FORMULATE POLICY, THEY FORMULATE REGULATION AND BRING IT TO THE BOARD TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE.

THAT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE WAY WE OPERATE.

THAT IS CORRECT. IT'S JUST THAT SOMETIMES POLICY HAS A LOT MORE MEAT IN IT.

IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THOSE INTERIM MEASURES, FOR EXAMPLE, HAPPEN.

BUT TO BE HONEST, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE BIG OUTCOME.

YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW HOW MANY KIDS WERE ENROLLED.

THE QUESTION IS HOW DID THE KIDS DO IN THAT REGULATION? YES. BUT THE POLICY MAY BE MORE SPECIFIC. AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S A REGULATION TO EXECUTE ON IT, IT MENTIONS IN THERE WE WANT PRESCHOOLERS ENROLLED.

WE WANT SO SO THAT'S WHY IT'S A CONVERSATION.

CONFUSED. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. I'D LIKE TO ADD JUST QUICKLY THAT WE ALSO HAVE WE GET A BOOK OF EVALUATION FROM THE EVALUATION DEPARTMENT THAT KIND OF SHOWS US HOW THINGS ARE GOING. THAT GOES INTO SOME DETAIL ABOUT WHAT'S GOING WELL, WHAT COULD BE DONE BETTER.

AND I THINK THAT'S A LEVEL ANOTHER LEVEL OF SORT OF OVERARCHING MONITORING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO? YEAH. JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A STATISTICALLY.

HOW CAN I SAY FROM A STATISTIC STANDPOINT, THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THOSE INTERIM MEASURES THAT LEAD TO THE OUTCOME.

AND IT'S NICE THAT YOU GET TO SEE ALL OF THAT.

SO YOU CAN SEE ALL THE WORK BEHIND. OH, THOSE PRESCHOOLERS PROGRESSED ONE GRADE LEVEL.

OH, WELL, WHAT DID YOU DO TO MAKE IT HAPPEN? WELL, THAT EVALUATION PROGRAM IS GOING TO TELL YOU ALL THE MANY THINGS THAT HAPPENED.

YEAH. AND IT'S AND IT'S, I THINK AVAILABLE TRANSPARENTLY, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT AND, AND IMPORTANT.

YES. AND IT MAKES YOU A EQUATION, A MUCH MORE INFORMED BOARD MEMBER.

AND MANY DISTRICTS DO NOT HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.

SO KUDOS THAT YOU DO. YEAH. I WANT TO ADD TO THAT.

AS THE POLICY CHAIR, I DO AGREE WITH TRUSTEE FOREMAN.

WE ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON, RIGHT. AND THE ADMINISTRATION DOES A REALLY, REALLY GOOD JOB ON GETTING INFORMATION TO ME TO LOOK AT,

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SO I THINK AS A BOARD, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO.

AND MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT IT IS I DON'T WANT TO CREATE LIKE A WALKING QUORUM OR IF THAT'S A RISK FACTOR THAT'S IN PLACE.

BUT I THINK THAT'S CORRECT. YOU DO WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. BUT BUT IT WOULDN'T HURT AT ALL TO SAY HERE ARE THREE PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS TOPIC.

LET US BE THE PEOPLE WHO KIND OF PRE LOOK AT IT BEFORE IT GOES TO THE BOARD.

I ASSUME YOUR POLICIES COME FOR A FIRST AND SECOND READING, SO IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE STAFF COULD GET SOME FEEDBACK BEFORE WE GOT TO THAT FIRST READING, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE SOME HEAVY THOUGHTS IN THERE, RIGHT? SO ALSO WHEN OTHER POLICIES THAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT ABOUT CREATING MORE ACCOUNTABILITY.

SO MY CONCERN IS WHEN DO POLICIES ALLOW OR CREATE MORE ACCOUNTABILITY? AND WHEN DO POLICIES BECOME TOO MUCH OF A CHOKEHOLD ON THE DISTRICT? RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU STILL WANT TO ALLOW FLEXIBILITY. SO HELP ME THINK THROUGH THAT.

THAT'S ALSO A CONVERSATION. OKAY. YOU KNOW THAT AS YOU PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS TO HONESTLY SAY, OKAY, GUYS, THIS IS GOING TO SLOW EVERYTHING DOWN AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE SAUSAGE.

SO THAT'S THAT BACK AND FORTH THAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

THAT'S WHY YOU NEVER YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE BOARDS COME IN AND SAY, BAM, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

IT'S THAT DIALOG IN WHICH YOU MAKE THIS THING ACTUALLY LIVABLE AND USABLE RATHER THAN JUST SOME SORT OF AUTOCRATIC.

THIS IS THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT. SO IT'S, IT'S IT'S A WAVY LINE.

IT MOVES ALL THE TIME. SOME THINGS YOU NEED TO BE VERY HYPER FOCUSED AND HAVE DEEP KNOWLEDGE.

OTHER THINGS. ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS. YOU SHOULD BE NICE TO HEAR ABOUT IT, BUT IT DEFINITELY WOULD BE GOOD TO TAKE A LOOK AT POLICIES THAT ARE, THAT ARE CREATING LIKE GOING OVER BUDGET. LIKE WE HAVE CERTAIN THINGS THAT'S GOING OVER BUDGET, THAT'S COSTING MORE MONEY THAN WHAT IT SHOULD BE COSTING, RIGHT? SO HOW TO HAVE POLICIES IN PLACE THAT HOLD ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING WITHIN OUR BUDGET FOR CERTAIN THINGS? YEAH. AND I ASSUME THAT THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF YOUR GOALS IS TO RUN A, YOU KNOW, A FINANCIALLY SOLVENT OPERATION OR YOUR CONSTRAINT IS WE WILL NOT BANKRUPT THE DISTRICT WITH THESE POLICIES.

YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S HOW YOU AND THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT. YOU HAVE A BIG BARRIER THAT THE ADMINISTRATION KNOWS, OKAY, WE CAN'T SPEND IN THE RED. ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SURE, SURE. I HAD JUST, JUST SOME COMMENTS ON MAKING SURE.

I THINK THIS DOES ENLIGHTEN ME AS TO WHETHER WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

JUST TO KIND OF HOW OUR PROCESSES WORK. I MEAN, I, I READ THIS AS WHEN WE IMPLEMENT A NEW POLICY, WE HAVE MECHANISMS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MONITOR WHAT'S HAPPENING TO IT, BUT WE DON'T GO BACK AND NECESSARILY FOLLOW EVERY PAGE OF THE GIANT BOOKS THAT WE HAVE.

BUT WE ALSO DO WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, WHICH IS ONE OF ITS PRIMARY FUNCTIONS, IS TO GO THROUGH AND IDENTIFY DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, WAYS IN WHICH THE DISTRICT IS OPERATING AND TO PERIODICALLY EVALUATE IT, PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK.

YOU KNOW, ONE COMMENT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE CERTAINLY DO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON POLICY FROM THE DAIS.

WE'VE DONE IT MULTIPLE TIMES THIS PAST YEAR ON VARIOUS TOPICS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE CERTAINLY ARE POLICIES THAT ARE GOING BY WITHOUT US AS A BOARD HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE OR NOT.

AND I'M ALSO NOT AWARE, I MEAN, CERTAINLY IF SOMEONE ATTEMPTED TO HAVE A POLICY, YOU KNOW, PUT ON THE AGENDA AND DIDN'T HAVE THE NECESSARY SUPPORT FOR THAT, THEN I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT, BUT I'M OTHERWISE NOT AWARE OF PEOPLE NOT HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FOR ANY POLICY TO BE PUT ON THE BOARD AGENDA AND TO BE VOTED ON.

AND SO AND SO I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK WE HAVE SOME SORT OF SYSTEMIC ISSUE WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T ADVOCATE FOR A POLICY.

AND IF ANY OF MY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE A POLICY THEY'D LIKE ME TO LOOK AT TO HELP BE AN EXTRA VOTE TO POTENTIALLY BRING IT TO THE BOARD.

I'M HAPPY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU ABOUT IT. YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR FINGERS IN POLICY ENOUGH THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE THAT THE BOARD HAS A ROLE AND THAT YOU MONITOR SOME OF THE BIG THINGS THAT ARE COMING OUT AND THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO CHANGE STUFF AND YOU'RE GOING TO COME IN AND ADOPT A BUNCH OF STUFF. YEAH.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST NORMAL STUFF. EVERY NOW AND THEN THERE'LL BE ONE IN THERE THAT YOU GO, OKAY, THIS IS DRAMATIC. WE NEED TO WE NEED TO MONITOR THIS ONE.

BUT YEAH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BOTHER THE STAFF WITH ALL THE REST OF THAT STUFF.

YEAH, I GUESS WHAT I WAS JUST ONE THING I WAS REACTING TO WAS I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF WE NEED A SPECIAL POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE WHOSE JOB IT IS TO GO OUT AND, AND MANUFACTURE POLICY CHANGES WITHOUT A DRIVING REASON FOR IT.

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AND THEN IF WE HAVE LARGER POLICIES, THOSE ARE RAISED TO THE BOARD AND WE TALK ABOUT IT AT THE BOARD LEVEL.

BUT I'M PERSONALLY NOT SURE WE NEED A A PARTICULAR THREE PERSON GROUP TO DIG THROUGH ALL THE POLICIES AND SEE WHAT OTHER NOOKS AND CRANNIES USUALLY, AND THAT WAS TASB HAS GOTTEN REALLY GOOD. I'M JUST MAKING SURE I'M ONE OF THEM HAS GOTTEN PRETTY GOOD ABOUT SENDING YOU ALL THE BIG CHANGES SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DIG THROUGH 8000 POLICIES. BUT EVERY NOW AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO DECIDE TO DO A MAJOR SHIFT AND THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT THE BOARD INVOLVED. IF YOU WANT THAT FIRST AND SECOND READING TO GIVE THE PUBLIC LOTS OF NOTICE THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO DO SOMETHING DRAMATIC.

YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO PUT SOME MONITORING CHARACTERISTICS IN THERE.

YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO REPORT BACK ON A CERTAIN WAY.

YOU KNOW, THAT HAPPENS MAYBE 2 OR 3 TIMES IN YOUR TENURE AS A BOARD MEMBER.

THIS IS NOT AN EVEN EVERY YEAR THING. AND CAN I CLARIFY SOMETHING ON POLICY? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE, IF YOU WANT A POLICY PUT ON WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE POLICY COMMITTEE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THREE PEOPLE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

THREE, THREE AND YES, WE DO HAVE ISSUES WITH PEOPLE TRYING TO GET POLICIES LOOKED AT THAT WE BELIEVE NEED TO GET LOOKED AT.

I BELIEVE WHAT EDITOR HAS SAID, THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE STAFF DOES A GOOD JOB IN BRINGING THE POLICIES THAT TASB WILL BRING FORWARD FOR CHANGE. RIGHT? IN MOST CASES, RIGHT. BUT THERE ARE OTHER POLICIES THAT WE SOMETIMES NEED TO LOOK AT.

BUT YOU HAVE THE BOARD CHAIR, THE POLICY CHAIR, WHO ONLY LOOKS AT POLICIES THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS BRINGING FORWARD. AND I THINK WHAT HE AND I ARE SAYING IS THAT THERE ARE OTHER POLICIES THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE REVISITED AT A POINT IN TIME.

ALL OF OUR COMMITTEES. I AGREE. ALL OF OUR COMMITTEES HAVE MORE THAN ONE PERSON ON IT.

ALL OF THEM. HOW MANY COMMITTEES DO YOU HAVE? FOUR. THREE? TWO. WHAT ARE THE TWO COMMITTEES? SUPERINTENDENT'S EVALUATION COMMITTEE AND I. AND THE WHAT? AUDIT. AUDIT WHICH IS REQUIRED BY STATE. THE STATE.

SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN AUDIT COMMITTEE. SO. SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, IS THAT THERE ARE TIMES.

AND THIS BECOMES A STICKY ISSUE BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT POLICY.

BUT THERE ARE TIMES LIKE THE THEORY OF ACTION THAT WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.

BUT YOU DON'T WANT ONE PERSON TAKING THAT ON TO LOOK AT IT.

IT NEEDS TO BE A GROUP OF MORE THAN ONE. NOW, SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE GOING TO DISAGREE WITH ME.

I ALREADY SEE A LIGHT GOING ON, AND THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE I TRULY BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE THE COLLEAGUES THAT I'M TALKING TO NOW, I HAVE TALKED TO ABOUT POLICIES THAT I THINK NEED TO BE BROUGHT BACK, BUT THEY'RE NOT.

OKAY. SO THAT'S WHY A POLICY COMMITTEE WOULD BE BETTER TO LOOK AT.

NOW, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A POLICY COMMITTEE, JUST GOING OUT DOING A LOT OF WILD THINGS.

BUT WHEN THERE IS SOME CONCERN ABOUT TRUSTEE, THAT POLICY COMMITTEE COULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT PARTICULAR POLICY.

AND THAT'S A WAY THAT SOME DISTRICTS HANDLE IT.

THEY HAVE A POLICY COMMITTEE THAT CONVENES WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.

SO THAT'S LIKE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE. YEAH, IT'S AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.

SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN EVERY MONTH, BUT MAYBE A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR.

SOMETHING COMES TO THAT LEVEL THAT IT NEEDS. THERE'S A CONCERN AMONGST THE BOARD THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.

AND RATHER THAN BRING IT TO THE FULL BOARD, WHICH IS AWKWARD AND CLUMSY, IT GOES TO AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.

OKAY. AND THAT'S THE WAY TO HANDLE IT. GOTCHA.

THANK YOU. OKAY. WHEN I READ THIS QUESTION, I LOOKED AT IT DIFFERENTLY.

I SAID FULLY PRESENT, BUT THAT WAS BECAUSE I WAS SAYING I WAS READING IT AS WHERE'S OUR FOCUS? AND, AND THE FOCUS HAS BEEN ON OUR GOALS MAINLY STUDENT OUTCOME AND ALSO FINANCIAL.

AND WE DO THAT VERY WELL AND WE DO IT REGULARLY.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING I'M REALLY PROUD OF.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE 200, YOU KNOW, OTHER POLICIES THAT ARE MOSTLY ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION TYPE THINGS, A LOT OF THEM THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE ADOPT THEM WHEN WE'RE REQUIRED TO ADOPT THEM AND WE REVIEW THEM AT THAT, AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

BUT, BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A REGULAR MONITORING OF THE WHOLE BOOK OF POLICIES.

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AND I THINK IT WAS A VERY CONSCIOUS DECISION OF THE BOARD TO FOCUS ON STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT AND NOT TO FOCUS ON ALL OF THE DETAILED ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES THAT HAVE TO BE IN POLICY, BECAUSE THAT'S THE RULE.

YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BE A LAW AND THEN THE ADMINISTRATION RUNS WITH IT.

LIKE FOR EXAMPLE YOU KNOW, SETTING ATTENDANCE ZONES.

NOW, AT SOME POINT, YOU MAY WANT TO RETHINK ALL YOUR ATTENDANCE ZONES.

THAT WOULD TAKE A BIG EFFORT. BUT NORMALLY YEAR TO YEAR, YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, THE POLICY ROLLS ALONG AND YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT IT WHEN YOU FIRE PEOPLE, WHEN YOU HIRE PEOPLE. THERE ARE EIGHT ZILLION POLICIES THAT YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE.

SO THE ADMINISTRATION HAS DIRECTION. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

YOU DO NOT WANT TO SPEND TIME. YEAH. OKAY. LET'S LOOK AT THE NEXT ONE.

NUMBER TEN. THE BOARD MAKES DECISIONS BASED ON RELEVANT RESEARCH AND DATA.

TWO PARTLY PRESENT SEVEN FULLY PRESENT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE MOST OF YOU THINK THAT THE INFORMATION YOU'RE GETTING HELPS YOU MAKE YOUR DECISIONS, THAT YOU MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON DATA RATHER THAN LET'S SEE, I'LL JUST PULL SOMETHING OUT OF THE AIR AND THE FACT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND YOUR GOALS AND THE CONSTRAINTS AND FOCUS ON STUDENT OUTCOME.

SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE VERY MUCH HOOKED IN HERE. ANYBODY WHO PUT DOWN PARTLY PRESENT THAT HAS A THOUGHT THAT THEY WANT TO SHARE.

WELL, I PUT FULLY PRESENT. AND THE REASON I SAID I PUT FULLY PRESENT BECAUSE BEFORE I WAS A TRUSTEE YOU KNOW, YOU JUST KIND OF GO OFF WHAT YOU THINK. AND THEN ONCE I BECAME A TRUSTEE AND STARTED LOOKING AT THE DATA, IT EQUIPPED ME TO BETTER COMMUNICATE TO MY COMMUNITY TOTALLY WHAT THE DATA SAYS AND WHY THESE DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE AND WHY.

AND IT KIND OF HELPS ME AND HELPS THE COMMUNITY REGULATE THEIR EMOTIONS BEHIND A CERTAIN ISSUE.

WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE DATA, AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT THE PLAN TO TRY TO MOVE FORWARD TO INCREASE THE OUTCOMES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO THAT'S WHY I PUT FULLY PRESENT FORWARD IN THIS ADMINISTRATION DOES A REALLY, REALLY GOOD JOB.

GREAT INFORMATION. YEAH. IT'S WE HAVE MOVED SO MANY LIGHT YEARS AWAY FROM WHERE WE USED TO BE IN TERMS OF GIVING BOARDS ACCESS TO REALLY GOOD INFORMATION ABOUT HOW KIDS ARE DOING OR HOW CHANGES ARE PUT IN PLACE.

SO GREAT NUMBER 11. THE BOARD MEETINGS ARE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE.

I HAVE ONE PARTLY AND NINE FULLY. THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO IMPROVE? SOUNDS LIKE NOT.

JOE IS LAUGHING. LET'S LET'S LET'S BOX LUNCHES.

DOES HE GET CREDIT? NUMBER 12 BOARD MEMBERS ATTEND ALL REGULARLY SCHEDULED BOARD MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS.

I HAVE THREE PARTIES AND SEVEN PHILLIES, SO MOST PEOPLE ARE HERE MOST OF THE TIME.

WE HAVE BOARDS THAT HAVE TROUBLE GETTING A QUORUM UP.

IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE WHY YOU RAN FOR THIS HIGH PAYING JOB.

YEAH. AND DON'T SHOW UP. OKAY. NUMBER 13 BOARD MEMBERS TAKE NO PRIVATE ACTION THAT COMPROMISES THE BOARD OR DISTRICT AND RESPECT THE CONFIDENTIALITY THAT IS PRIVILEGED UNDER LAW.

I HAVE ONE PARTLY AND EIGHT FULLY. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYBODY THINKS THAT EVERYBODY'S TAKING ACTION BASED ON THE DATA AND NOT STRINGS BEING PULLED BY SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE.

GOOD JOB. NUMBER 14. BOARD MEMBERS TREAT EACH OTHER IN THE SUPERINTENDENT STAFF WITH RESPECT IN PUBLIC.

I HAVE FIVE, PARTLY AND FIVE FULLY. HOW CAN WE DO BETTER HERE ON THIS? ANY THOUGHTS? IT'S A HARD ONE I WONDER IF WE COULD IF WE COULD.

IF WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION OR WE CAN'T SAY THAT WE COULD.

WE COULD ASK FOR FEEDBACK. TRUE. COULD GET ANONYMOUS FEEDBACK.

A 360. YOU KNOW, WHERE PEOPLE EVALUATE UP, NOT JUST DOWN.

I, I MEAN, IF IT SOUNDS LIKE NONE OF US ARE REALLY SURE.

YEAH. IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT ON THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE COMPLICATED.

JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR FEEDBACK. DAN, I THINK ONE THING THAT WE COULD DO IS NOT, NOT BLINDSIDE SOMEONE WITH QUESTIONS. LIKE IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU'VE THOUGHT OF THE QUESTION A DAY AHEAD OF TIME, DON'T, DON'T WAIT UNTIL IT'S A POP QUIZ WITH ALL THE SPOTLIGHTS ON TO ASK THE QUESTION.

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YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND THEN I'M GOING TO REPEAT IT THREE TIMES OVER IN THE MOST EXTREME CASE.

SO THAT'S THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT, THAT, THAT WE CAN DO TO DOESN'T, DOESN'T ADVERSELY AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO ASK QUESTIONS.

IT'S JUST, WELL, IF YOU REALLY WANT THE ANSWER, YOU CAN, IF YOU, IF YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION, ASK IT AHEAD OF TIME. YEAH. IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO ASK IT.

AND THAT DOESN'T STOP, YOU KNOW, REACTING TO THE DEBATE AND COMING UP WITH A QUESTION.

EXACTLY. SO I'M LISTENING TO WHAT DAN SAID. AND A LOT OF TIMES YOU CAN ASK TEN QUESTIONS AND GET AN ANSWER, AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION COMES UP.

OH NO QUESTION. SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS ABOUT TRYING TO TRICK THE STAFF OR JUMP ON THE STAFF.

IT'S ABOUT TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION ON INFORMATION THAT YOU POSSIBLY GOT.

YEAH. AND SO AS MUCH AS YOU CAN IN ADVANCE. RIGHT.

AND BUT THERE'S STILL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. AND I WILL SAY THIS PUBLICLY BECAUSE I'M NOT ASHAMED TO DO THAT.

I GET A BRIEFING BINDER. I GO THROUGH THE BRIEFING BINDER ALL THE TIME.

I HAVE A MR. BRIEFING BINDER. AND SO I ASK QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE AND THEN I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS LATER ON.

IT'S NOT AND I GOT YOU, BUT IT'S ALWAYS TO TRY TO GET CLARITY ON WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO.

AND THEN I PERSONALLY WILL HELP HAVE SOMEBODY TO HELP ME PULL ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA.

AND IF I GET CLARIFICATION, I PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA.

SO IT'S NOT AS MUCH AS AS MUCH AS WE CAN DO BEFOREHAND IS HELPFUL FOR THE STAFF.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. NUMBER 15, THE BOARD IS GENERALLY COHESIVE, RENDERING DECISIONS BASED ON AVAILABLE FACTS AND INDEPENDENT JUDGMENT.

HAVE TWO PARTIES AND EIGHT FULLY PRESENT. ANY THOUGHTS? AND DO WE WANT TO TAKE A BREAK AND LET PEOPLE GET SOMETHING TO EAT? YES. AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND DIVE RIGHT IN.

I JUST I DIDN'T WANT BEN TO BE THE ONLY ONE OVER HERE.

IF I COULD EXPRESS MAYBE A MINORITY POINT OF VIEW ON THIS.

I WOULD JUST HAVE US HAVE THE CLOCK KEEP TICKING.

AND PEOPLE EAT WHEN THEY WHEN THEY PLAY, RATHER THAN STOP THE CLOCK AND BE HERE A HALF HOUR LONG.

KEEP GOING. SO JUST GRAB GRAB A BOX WHEN YOU'RE READY AND WE'LL JUST KEEP MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

YEAH, I'M INSPIRED BY BEN'S LEADERSHIP ON THIS POINT.

AND I THINK I WAS ONE OF THE PARTLY. BUT NOW I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS ALLOWED TO CHANGE YOUR ANSWER, BUT I WANTED TO, I REREAD IT AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T.

AND NOW YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S A FULLY. YES. OKAY.

GREAT. GREAT. OKAY, GREAT. NUMBER 18. THE BOARD ENSURES EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATIONS OF ITS GOALS, PLANS AND POLICIES TO THE COMMUNITY. I HAVE TWO PARTIES AND WE GO TO 18.

NUMBER 18. I THOUGHT WE WERE ON 16. OH. SO SORRY.

I HAD IT ON THE BACK OF MY PAGE. I FLIPPED OVER.

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING ME. LET'S TRY NUMBER 16.

THE BOARD MAINTAINS A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP OF TRUST.

AND WE HAVE NINE FOLEY'S. I WOULD LIKE TO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED HERE IN THIS SECTION, BUT I DIDN'T ANSWER. BUT THAT'S OKAY. I'M CHOOSING TO ANSWER.

THAT'S OKAY. SOME PEOPLE DON'T ANSWER EVERY QUESTION, SO I JUST DON'T SAY ANYTHING.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS NOT INTENTIONAL.

I'M NOT SURE. BUT YOU WERE OKAY WITH IT FULLY THERE.

YES. THAT'S GREAT. WELL, I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY DISTRICTS I GO TO WHERE SOME OF THEM HAVE NOT PRESENT.

THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD. SO YAY! YOU GUYS ARE DOING GREAT.

NUMBER 17. THE BOARD ENSURES OPPORTUNITIES FOR A DIVERSE RANGE OF VIEWS.

THREE PARTIES AND SIX FOLEY'S. ONCE AGAIN I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A RESPONSE TO TO THIS QUESTION FULLY.

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GREAT. WE'LL PUT YOU DOWN THERE. THANK YOU. NUMBER 18 NOW.

THANK YOU. THE BOARD ENSURES EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATIONS OF HIS GOALS AND PLANS.

I HAVE TWO PARTIES AND EIGHT FAMILIES. SO AGAIN, IT'S VERY, VERY HARD TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC EXCEPT WHEN YOU CLOSE A SCHOOL OR CUT SOMETHING THAT THEY LOVE, YOU KNOW? AND THEN SUDDENLY EVERYBODY'S VERY PAYING ATTENTION.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR REALLY BORING GOALS.

IT'S A HARD JOB TO CONVEY THAT. I ACTUALLY AND I DON'T THINK IT IS.

AND I THINK IT'S JUST SOMETHING. AND THIS GOES BACK TO, I THINK WHAT BYRON SAID ON THE FIRST ONE HERE IS WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE ENGAGE WITH US WHEN WE ASKED PEOPLE FEEDBACK ABOUT THESE GOALS. THAT'S WONDERFUL. I THINK IT COULD BEHOOVE US QUITE A BIT TO SET A STRUCTURE WHERE ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR WE HAVE DISTRICT WIDE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, NOT THE SUPERINTENDENT AND HER TEAM GOING, BUT US AS BOARD MEMBERS GOING.

IDEALLY, IN MY PERSPECTIVE, MULTIPLE OF US GOING TO DIFFERENT PLACES THAT WE DON'T REPRESENT TO SHARE.

HEY, HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR, HERE'S OUR PROGRESS. WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON THESE GOALS. WE'RE NOT OVER HERE. AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE BIG THINGS COMING UP. AND IF WE HAVE SOMETHING TO ASK THEM ABOUT THE BUDGET OR WHATEVER, WE CAN USE THAT FORM AS A WAY TO HAVE THIS ONGOING, TO GET SOME FEEDBACK AND TO NOT DO IT, BECAUSE WE TEND TO DO IT REACTIVELY.

WHEN WE NEED SOMETHING. WE GOT TO WE HAVE TO ADDRESS ATTENDANCE ZONES OR WE'RE DOING A COMMUNITY MEETINGS AROUND THIS THING OR A BUDGET, LIKE TO HAVE THOSE PLANNED AND HAVE MAYBE THE TOPICS CHANGED SLIGHTLY, BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS IN THE FALL AND IN THE SPRING, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SIX COMMUNITY MEETINGS AROUND THE DISTRICT WHERE MULTIPLE TRUSTEES ARE GOING TO BE AT TO KIND OF SHARE THE PROGRESS WOULD BE A REALLY POWERFUL TOOL.

I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT IN THAT IF YOU REGULATE, IF YOU MAKE IT REGULAR, PEOPLE EXPECT IT.

MAYBE THERE'S BETTER PARTICIPATION. I USED TO HAVE A MONTHLY MEETING WITH THE PTA, PTO PRESIDENTS FROM THE SCHOOLS IN MY DISTRICT, EVERYBODY THROUGH FIVE BUCKS, AND WE HAD SANDWICHES.

AND THEN EVERY MONTH THEY KNEW WHAT WAS THE HOT TOPIC AND THEY WERE ABLE TO TALK TO ME, SO THEY EXPECTED IT.

IT WAS REGULAR. I COULD GET GOOD PARTICIPATION IN FEEDBACK.

AND EACH OF YOU HAVE TO KIND OF DO YOUR OWN THING ON WHAT WORKS IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

JUST SHOUT OUT TO TRUSTEE WEINBERG, WHO DOES DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO.

PARDON? SHOUT OUT TO TRUSTEE WEINBERG, WHO DOES EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO OR DID.

I'VE TRIED TO DO IT, AND HER COMMITMENT TO KEEPING IT IS REMARKABLE.

IT'S HARD REAL QUICK JUST BECAUSE I HEARD YOU RESPOND SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

AND I THINK THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US DOING OUR OWN THING AND OUR OWN COMMUNITY.

WHERE I GET ELECTED, NO MATTER HOW GOOD OF ATTENTION IT IS AND US DOING SOMETHING AS A BOARD.

IF YOU CAN GET THE PROGRESS, IF YOU CAN GET PEOPLE TO COME, THEY WILL COME BECAUSE YOU ARE THEIR REPRESENTATIVE.

IT'S A DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIP. YOU'RE RIGHT. SO YOU HAVE TO WORK REALLY HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO COME FOR A GENERAL.

OH, HERE'S THE BOARD GIVING FEEDBACK, BUT I THINK ONE OF THOSE IS FAR MORE POWERFUL TO SPEAK WITH A DISTINCT VOICE THAN THE OTHER.

AND IT IS NOT ME. IF YOU CAN. IF YOU CAN GET FOLKS TO COME.

IT'S IT'S A LOT OF FOLKS COME TO OUR GOAL SETTING PROCESS.

DID THEY DID THEY COME? THEY CAME TO SEE YOU THOUGH.

IT'S BEEN AS MUCH AS ANYTHING ELSE. BUT I ALSO JUST SO TRUE.

BUT SEE, I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS AT ALL BECAUSE I ACTUALLY THINK PEOPLE ARE INVESTED IN DALLAS ISD.

IF WE SET THAT TONE AND I THINK IT IS SETTING THE BAR SO LOW THAT THEY WILL COME JUST FOR ME, I DON'T ACTUALLY BUY THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE FAR MORE INVESTED IN DALLAS ISD THAN THERE ARE IN ME AS AN INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER.

AND I THINK IF WE SET THAT BAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE JUST OUR OWN FIEFDOMS AND PEOPLE WILL COME SHOW UP AND I'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT I WANT. I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY WORKING REALLY HARD AGAINST WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO MOVE THIS CITY TOGETHER ON THE WAY FOR STUDENTS.

I THINK TRUSTEE MACKEY, WE MAY BE SAYING THE SAME THING.

I, I DO THINK HAVING A CONSISTENT MESSAGE IN WHICH WE ARE GOING OUT TO OUR COMMUNITIES AS A WHOLE IS WHAT THE DISTRICT IS TRYING TO COMMUNICATE AS A WHOLE.

AND THE STRENGTH OF THAT, I GET THAT POINT A LOT.

BUT I ALSO DO THINK IT TAKES A PERSONAL OUTREACH IN THE SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, GO TO YOUR MEETING IN YOUR DISTRICT AS MUCH AS THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO MY MEETING IN MY DISTRICT. AND THAT'S JUST HUMAN NATURE. I THINK WE NEED TO CREATE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ALL ACROSS THE DISTRICT SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE ABLE TO ATTEND. BUT, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THAT POINT, AND I UNFORTUNATELY, CHIEF DANIELS JUST LEFT RIGHT WHEN I WAS ABOUT TO COMPLIMENT HER, YOU KNOW, I THINK HER TEAM DOES A REALLY REMARKABLE JOB OF PUTTING TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT PRESS RELEASES, THE DIFFERENT INFORMATION PACKETS THAT YOU KNOW, THAT GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO TRY TO KEEP PEOPLE INFORMED.

YOU KNOW WHAT? I WOULD, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME OF US THAT DO A NEWSLETTER. I THINK THERE'S THREE OF US RIGHT NOW THAT ARE DOING A NEWSLETTER. AND THEN YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT YOU OVER THERE REDOING THE ENTIRE DISTRICT FIVE WEBSITE. BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE MINOR REQUEST THAT I CAN TALK WITH CHIEF DANIELS AFTERWARD IS, YOU KNOW, USUALLY WHEN I'M PUTTING THAT NEWSLETTER TOGETHER, I'M SCOURING EITHER THE OBVIOUSLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THE BOARD MEETINGS OR VARIOUS

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IF THE DISTRICT WANTS A SPECIFIC MESSAGE TO GO OUT A PARTICULAR MONTH.

YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO GET SOME. HEY, THERE'S SOME THINGS WE THINK YOU MAY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IN YOUR NEWSLETTER. AND SO I'LL CHECK WITH CHIEF DANIELS AFTERWARD ON THAT. BUT YEAH, IT'S POWERFUL WHEN YOU ALL BEGIN TO SPEAK WITH ONE VOICE, EVEN IF YOU'RE IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. I THINK THAT WE CAN DO BOTH THINGS.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO COME TOGETHER. I LIKE WHEN WE COME TOGETHER FOR SOME OF THE BOND MEETINGS.

WE DID THIS FOR THE GOAL SETTING MEETINGS AND SOMETIMES FOR THE BUDGET MEETINGS. WE DO IT.

I THINK IT'S, IT'S POWERFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SEE US ALIGNMENT BECAUSE WE GOVERN AS A CORPORATE BOARD, NOT INDIVIDUALLY. AND FOR ME, IT'S SUPER HELPFUL JUST TO MEET WITH THE PTA, I THINK LIKE YOU USED TO BECAUSE IT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND FOR THEM TO CROSS POLLINATE WITH EACH OTHER. BUT TO BEN'S POINT, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT AND I THINK OUR OPPORTUNITIES ARE WHEN WE WHEN WE HAVE A BUDGET IN THE SPRING, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THAT TIME COMES, OUR, OUR MEETINGS ARE COMING UP TO WORK TOGETHER TO DO IT.

IT ALSO IS MORE EFFICIENT. AND THEN IN THE YOU KNOW, AT TIMES WHEN WE HAVE OUR RESULTS IN THE FALL FROM THE PRIOR YEAR TO COMMUNICATE HOW THOSE HAVE OR HAVE NOT MET THE GOALS THAT WE SET.

SO, AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE ONES THAT HAVE NOT, I THINK BOTH THINGS ARE IMPORTANT IN OUR ROLES. AND I THINK EVERYBODY DOES IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY AND KIND OF IN THE BEST WAY FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES. BUT I DO THINK COMING TOGETHER AS A GROUP IS EFFECTIVE AND HAS BEEN EFFECTIVE IN THE THREE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN.

GOOD GOOD GOOD, GOOD. THAT'S GREAT. DAN. YEAH.

I WANT TO BUILD ON SOME OF THE POINTS THAT TRUSTEE WEINBERG MADE.

I THINK IT'S I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE AND THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THAT WE ACT AS A BOARD AS, AS A CORPORATE BODY, THAT THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, THE DAN SHOW.

IT IS IT IS THE IT IS THE BOARD. AND ONE THING THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE HELPFUL TO US, AND I SEE THAT LIBBY IS GONE.

SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THIS SUGGESTION IS THAT AFTER A BOARD MEETING THAT IF THE ADMINISTRATION COULD PREPARE A DRAFT SUMMARY THAT IS DESIGNED TO GO TO THE PUBLIC THAT EACH OF US COULD SEND OUT IN THE DISTRICT, COULD SEND OUT THAT KIND, THAT THAT SUMMARIZES WHAT HAPPENED SO THAT IT'S IT'S NOT JUST ME SENDING OUT THE THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT, BUT THAT IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE SUMMARY OF WHAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DETAILED, BUT IT'S JUST OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE MEETING.

IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS AI DOES INCREDIBLY WELL IS PROVIDE THOSE SUMMARIES.

IT'S A GREAT IDEA. ARE YOU SUGGESTING SHE USE AI? PARDON? I JUST CAN'T TELL YOU HOW OFTEN WE'RE TAKING MEETINGS AND AI IS SUMMARIZING IT.

AND I'M LIKE, BOY, THAT'S SAVED ABOUT A TON OF TIME.

SOME HUMAN NEEDS TO READ IT FIRST JUST IN CASE.

OKAY. NUMBER 19 BOARD MEMBERS UNDERSTAND THEIR ROLE IS TO GOVERN, NOT MANAGE.

I HAVE SIX PARTIES AND FOUR FILLIES. IS IT IMPROVING? I THINK IT HAS IMPROVED OVER TIME. I DO REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE BOARD AND NOT REALLY HAVING AN IDEA WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE ON A PUBLICLY ELECTED BOARD. I SERVED ON LOTS OF LOTS OF BOARDS, AND TO JUST SORT OF SEE A NUMBER OF MY COLLEAGUES THAT WERE JUST SO FAR IN THE WEEDS AND ALMOST ACTING THE WAY I KIND OF SEE OUR CITY COUNCIL DOING THIS IS MY FIEFDOM.

I CONTROL WHATEVER HAPPENS IN THIS IN THIS AREA OF TOWN, AND YOU HAVE TO GET MY SPECIFIC PERMISSION TO DO SOMETHING.

AND I DID SEE THAT. SO WE'VE MOVED VERY FAR AWAY FROM THAT.

RIGHT. BUT I WAS THE ONE THAT SAID PARTLY PRESENT BECAUSE I DO I DO SEE KIND OF THE TENSION BETWEEN BEING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT IS REPRESENTING A PARTICULAR PART OF TOWN AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PART OF TOWN IS, IS REPRESENTED AS WELL AS THE BOARD AS A WHOLE.

BUT I, BUT I IT'S WE HAVEN'T REACHED THE POINT WHERE WE'RE LIKE A NONPROFIT BOARD WHERE WE ARE FOCUSED ON THE BIG PICTURE ALL THE TIME AS, AS OPPOSED TO YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR OWN LITTLE PARTS OF TOWN AND, AND THEN GETTING IN THE WEEDS ON, ON SOME OF THAT STUFF.

SO I, IT MAY BE INHERENT IN THE, IN THE IN HAVING AN ELECTED BOARD, SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.

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THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT YOU TOTALLY OUT OF IT.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THEY LOOK AT YOU LIKE YOU'RE THE CITY COUNCIL OR A STATE LEGISLATOR.

SO THEY HAVE THEY DON'T REALIZE YOU'RE MUCH MORE LIKE A BANK BOARD OR A BOARD OF REGENTS.

AND THAT'S A CONSTANT STRUGGLE FOR US TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR APPROPRIATE ROLE IS.

THEY WANT YOU TO GO TAKE ACTION AND MAKE THIS HAPPEN OVER HERE.

I MEAN, THAT'S TRUE BECAUSE YOU GOT TO KEEP IN MIND, I, I, WE WORK WITH KIDS AND PEOPLE ARE SENSITIVE OVER THEIR CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY ME. I'M PROBABLY OVERLY SENSITIVE WHEN IT COMES TO MINE.

SO OFTENTIMES I DO GET THOSE CALLS FROM PARENTS THAT ARE UPSET ABOUT A NUMBER OF ISSUES.

AND THEY EXPECT YOU TO HANDLE IT. AND OFTENTIMES I HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO PARENTS THAT THERE'S A PROCESS ON HOW WE DEAL WITH BULLYING.

THERE'S A PROCESS ON HOW WE DEAL WITH SPD AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.

AND THEN JUST TRYING TO HELP THOSE PARENTS NAVIGATE THE SYSTEM.

WHICH I, WHICH OFTEN TIMES ME PERSONALLY, I HAVE FOUND MYSELF STEPPING OVER MY ROLE AS A SCHOOL BOARD TRUSTEE BECAUSE WHEN YOU GOT PARENTS CALLING YOU, THEY'RE JUST UPSET AND YOU FEEL THEIR PAIN.

IT'S LIKE, HOW DO I FIX IT? YOU KNOW, AND. RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND AS I'M LEARNING, LIKE, LET ME WELL, SOMEBODY GET PAID TO DO THAT.

LET THEM DO THAT. AND LET ME JUST GUIDE YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO THE PERSON THAT GETS PAID TO DO IT.

AND THEN YOU FOLLOW UP WITH ME AND LET ME KNOW HOW DID IT GO? EXACTLY, EXACTLY.

YOU'RE SERVING AS A GUIDE TO THAT FAMILY, WHICH IS A HUGE BENEFIT VERSUS IN THE PAST.

THE DOOR'S JUST BEEN CLOSED AND THEY FOUND NOBODY TO VENT WITH.

SO YOU'RE TAKING THE VENTING AND YOU'RE SHOWING THEM HOW TO USE THE SYSTEM APPROPRIATELY TO GET WHAT THEY NEED.

VERY VALUABLE. I THINK THE COMMUNITY LOOKS AT US AS A CONDUIT TO GET PROBLEMS FIXED WITHIN THE DISTRICT, MORE THAN JUST A BOARD MEMBER. AND I THINK PART OF THE WAY THAT YOU GET IT FIXED IS RELATIONSHIPS WITH ADMINISTRATION IN PARTICULAR AREAS. IF THERE'S AN ISSUE IN PRE-K, YOU'VE GOT A RELATIONSHIP OVER THERE THAT YOU CAN CALL SOMEBODY AND SAY, I'VE GOT THIS ISSUE. CAN YOU HELP ME WITH IT? BECAUSE PARENTS ARE IMPATIENT WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR CHILDREN.

OF COURSE, OF COURSE, THEY'RE EXTREMELY IMPATIENT.

AND THAT'S THAT'S A HARD LINE FOR YOU AS A TRUSTEE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT IN CHARGE OF THAT STAFF.

ABSOLUTELY. BUT YOU CAN TELL THEM WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHO THEY NEED TO GO SEE.

AND IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, WHERE THEY CAN GO NEXT AND NEXT? WELL, BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW THOSE THINGS. WHAT I WILL SAY, AND THIS IS NOT TO BUTTER UP THE SUPERINTENDENT, BUT EVERY TIME THAT I CALL A STAFF MEMBER REGARDING A PARTICULAR ISSUE, I DO GET A RESPONSE.

GREAT. AND I'M ABLE TO CARRY THAT THROUGH TO THE, TO THE, THEY LET THE SUPERINTENDENT KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN IN TOUCH, I'M SURE. GREAT. THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD WORK.

SHE PROBABLY GOT THEM WRITING IT DOWN, BUT OKAY.

NUMBER 20, I WAS GOING TO JUST ADD ONE QUICK THING.

YOU KNOW, I PUT PARTLY AS KIND OF A SELF-ASSESSMENT, RIGHT? THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF MY THINGS. IF I, IF I'M SAYING WHAT, WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES TRUSTEE SANDERS NEED TO DO BETTER AT? RIGHT? OR TO AT LEAST JUST BE AWARE OF BECAUSE OF NATURAL TENDENCIES.

WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS. WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN MY HOLZWARTH VISIT AS WELL.

AND IT'S THE TENDENCY TO ALL OF US RAN BECAUSE WE LIKE.

IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE WE LIKE KIDS. WE ALSO LIKE SOLVING PROBLEMS, LIKE FINDING SOLUTIONS.

YOU RAN TO HELP. YOU RAN TO HELP. YOU RAN TO MAKE THINGS BETTER.

AND THERE'S A NATURAL REFLEX TO WANTING TO DO THAT.

AND YES, THE BUT THE SKILL OF BEING A BOARD MEMBER IS REALLY YOU KNOW, KNOWING HOW TO PULL BACK.

BUT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALSO IS IN THIS PART, AND I WISH THERE WERE MORE THAN JUST THREE.

THIS ONE IS IT IMPLIES A RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE I SUSPECT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DISTRICT WANTS US TO SAY, HEY, I HEARD ABOUT A, THERE WAS A FAMILY MEMBER OR A NEIGHBOR OR SOMEBODY WHO SAW A PROBLEM, RIGHT? THEY CALLED ME AS THEIR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE.

MY JOB IS THEN TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION KNOWS ABOUT THAT.

CORRECT. AND THEN IS ABLE TO RESPOND AND DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO.

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EXACTLY. BUT BUT THAT'S WHY IT IS PART OF IT IS ART AS WELL, IN BEING ACCOUNTABLE TO A COMMUNITY THAT HAS ELECTED YOU TO BE A CONDUIT OR VOICE AND REPRESENTATIVE.

SO IT'S THAT DANCE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW I'M ALWAYS TRYING TO BE SELF-REFLECTIVE.

YOU'RE 100% RIGHT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS TO KNOW WHEN THERE ARE PROBLEMS, AND YOU HEAR THEM OFTEN BEFORE THEY DO.

SO YOU ARE A GREAT CONDUIT SO THEY CAN FIND OUT WHEN THEY HAVE SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS. AND SURE ENOUGH, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN A KID GETS LEFT BY THE BUS 12 TIMES, THERE'S A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM HERE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A CALL TO THE BUS BARN TO FIX IT.

BUT THE ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO KNOW THERE'S A BIG PROBLEM SO THEY CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S CAUSING THAT.

SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE THE TRUSTEE AND IT HAPPENS TO YOU? OH, IT HAS HAPPENED TO ME AS A TRUSTEE. YES. OKAY, COOL.

I DON'T FEEL BAD NOW. I WAS A BRAND NEW TRUSTEE, AND I HAD A FIVE YEAR OLD WHO HAD TO RIDE THE BUS.

AND DURING AUGUST, RIDING THE BUS IN HOUSTON.

UNAIR CONDITIONED IS REALLY PITIFUL. SO HE'D COME HOME DRENCHED IN SWEAT EVERY DAY IN KINDERGARTEN.

AND. OKAY, I'M THE MOM. WHY IS HE WEARING LONG PANTS? BECAUSE SCHOOL REQUIRES. IT HAS TO BE LONG PANTS.

WHY CAN'T HE WEAR SHORTS? SO I'M THE MOM. I CALL THE SCHOOL AND SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY HOT IN AUGUST.

YOU KNOW, COULD THE KIDS WEAR SHORTS WHEN THEY'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THE BUS.

OH, WE BELIEVE CHILDREN BEHAVE AS THEY'RE DRESSED.

AND SO HE NEEDS TO BE DRESSED FOR SCHOOL. BUT WE'RE HAVING A MEETING.

SO COME TO THE MEETING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE KIDS ARE GOING TO WEAR IN DRESS CODE.

SO I SHOW UP, THERE'S A CHAIR FOR ME AND ALL THE FACULTY.

SO IT'S VERY HARD WHEN YOU'RE THE TRUSTEE TO BE JUST A REGULAR PARENT.

YOU GET PUT ON THE SPOT. SO GOOD LUCK. IF YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT.

YOU GOT TO BE THE PARENT AT SOME POINT. CAN I MAKE JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS? SO ONE, YOU KNOW, TWO, HAS IT HAPPENED TO ME AS A TRUSTEE? I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO JUST SHARE. IT ALSO HAPPENS TO US AS PARENTS IN THE DISTRICT AS AN ADMINISTRATOR.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A TRUSTEE. SO OUR TEAM MEMBERS WHO HAVE.

JOHN THELANDER HAS CHILDREN HERE. TIFFANY HEWITT POWELL HAS CHILDREN HERE.

SO AS OUR STAFF. AND SO WHILE IT MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BRANT ALFRED HAS CHILDREN IN OUR SCHOOL.

WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT TOO. AND SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT PAIN POINT TO SOME EXTENT.

BUT ALSO WE ARE DEFINITELY IN A SITUATION WHERE WE CAN'T WALK IN AS WELL.

I'M THE CHIEF OF SCHOOLS AND I AND THIS IS WHAT AND WE HAVE TO BE SUPER CAREFUL.

SUPER BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY DO DIRECTLY SUPERVISE SOME OF THESE FOLKS.

AND SO WE DO FEEL WE DO FEEL THAT PAIN. THE OTHER THING IS I HEARD AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S, I DO THINK THIS BOARD HAS AN EXTREMELY EMPATHETIC AND UNDERSTANDING AND REFLECTIVE CULTURE.

AND SO WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS. THEY HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH ME ABOUT ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED TO THEM.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION OF WELL, AND THEN YOU ASKED, YOU KNOW, DID THEY TELL THE SUPERINTENDENT? AND THEN WE LAUGHED A LITTLE BIT. BUT I REALLY WANT TO VISIT THAT FOR A MOMENT. KATHY. OKAY.

I CAN'T FIND SYSTEMIC ISSUES IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY TEAM IS DEALING WITH.

AND SO SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WELL, HOW COME? I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME DISTRICTS WHERE THE SUPERINTENDENT IS VERY OFFENDED IF ANY BOARD MEMBER TALKS DIRECTLY TO STAFF.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW SOME OF THOSE WE CAN'T OPERATE LIKE THAT IN DALLAS ISD.

WE NEVER GET ANYTHING DONE. AND THE WHOLE POINT IS YOU ALL HAVE BUILT REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR TEAM MEMBERS.

AND SO IT DOES HELP US. BUT YES, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO TELL ME THEY HAVE A DIRECTIVE FROM ME.

THEY HAVE TO TELL ME WHEN THEY'RE INTERACTING WITH YOU, BECAUSE OTHERWISE, I DON'T KNOW.

THEY'RE ALL DEALING WITH THEIR DEPARTMENTS. I MIGHT SEE SOME CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS AND I WON'T SEE IT IF THEY AREN'T.

THEY'RE NOT TATTLING. THEY'RE TELLING ME WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND THE ORGANIZATION THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU ALL DON'T HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

THEY'RE NOT IT'S NOT THEIR EVALUATION THAT'S PUBLIC.

IT'S MINE. AND SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT THEY LET ME KNOW WHEN THEY'RE INTERACTING WITH YOU,

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THAT'S EVEN IN TWO DIFFERENT PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY. WHAT'S GOING ON? THEN I GET TO START ASKING OUR TEAM QUESTIONS SO THAT INSTEAD OF US ADDRESSING JUST THAT ONE ISSUE, WE CAN STEP BACK AND FIGHT, BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME THERE ISN'T ONE ISSUE, RIGHT? MOST OF THE TIME WE ONLY HEAR ABOUT 1 OR 2 ISSUES, BUT IN FACT, IT'S USUALLY HAPPENING TO MULTIPLE PEOPLE, MULTIPLE FAMILIES. AND REMEMBER, I BECAME A SUPERINTENDENT BECAUSE I WANT A PROBLEM SOLVED TOO.

SO WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING. AND AS YOU ALL BRING THOSE TO ME, IT'S NOT A, OH, YOU'RE TALKING TO STAFF. THEY'RE TELLING ME BECAUSE I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT I'VE CONNECTED SOME DOTS THAT OTHERWISE AREN'T ALWAYS CONNECTED.

AND THERE ARE A LOT OF DOTS OUT THERE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

WELL, THAT LEADS US NICELY INTO QUESTION 20. BOARD MEMBERS PROVIDE NECESSARY CONSTITUENT SERVICE WITHOUT ATTEMPTING TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. WE HAVE EIGHT PARTIES AND TWO FAMILIES, AND IT'S A VERY HARD THING TO NOT TRY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM BECAUSE WE RAN TO HELP. SO ANY THOUGHTS ON HOW WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB OF HELPING CONSTITUENTS WITHOUT TRYING TO FIX IT YOURSELF? SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF CONSTITUENT ISSUES AND THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS PROBLEMS YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE. SOMETIMES THEY'RE JUST SEEKING INFORMATION.

SURE. THEY MIGHT BE SEEKING INFORMATION ABOUT, WELL, I'VE GOT A THREE YEAR OLD AND WHERE CAN THEY GO TO PRE-K? WHAT SCHOOLS ARE IN YOUR AREA? HOW ARE YOUR SCHOOLS RATED IN YOUR AREA? YEAH. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF CONSTITUENT CONCERNS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE RISE TO THE LEVEL OF BRINGING IT TO THE ADMINISTRATION THAT BOARD MEMBERS CAN SOLVE BY TRYING TO GIVE THOSE CONSTITUENTS THAT PARTICULAR INFORMATION.

YEAH. AND THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN BE VERY HELPFUL.

YES. VERY HELPFUL BEING THE GUIDE, THE NAVIGATOR.

BUT DO KNOW THAT CONSTITUENTS WANT THEIR PROBLEMS SOLVED.

AND IF THEY EVER GET WORD THAT THERE'S A BOARD MEMBER WHO CAN FIX PROBLEMS, THEY'LL BE LINED UP OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOUSE AND DOWN THE BLOCK BECAUSE THEY'LL ALL THINK YOU CAN MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN. SO HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE A GOOD PROCESS THAT ALLOWS YOU TO FEED THOSE DOTS UP TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, AND SHE CAN CONNECT THEM AND MAKE THOSE CHANGES THAT NEED TO OCCUR.

OKAY. NUMBER 21, THE BOARD EXERCISES MANAGEMENT OVERSIGHT RESPONSIBILITIES THROUGH AUDITS, WORKSHOPS, REPORTS, AND OTHER METHODS TO ASSURE INTEGRITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE DISTRICT'S SYSTEMS, THREE PARTIES AND SEVEN FULLY. SO YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GETTING ENOUGH REPORTS TO UNDERSTAND HOW WELL IT'S GOING IN TRANSPORTATION AND FOOD SERVICE AND ALL THE VARIOUS SYSTEMS THAT RUN THIS BIG CITY.

OKAY, NUMBER 22, THE BOARD ADOPTS A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE BUDGET.

ONE PARTLY AND NINE FULLY. SO. YAY! SOUNDS GOOD.

NUMBER 23. THE BOARD STRIVES TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE RESOURCES AND ALLOCATE THEM EQUITABLY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF CHILDREN IN THE DISTRICT.

ONE PARTLY. NINE FULLY. A LOT OF UNANIMITY THERE.

NUMBER 24 THE BOARD ANNUALLY EVALUATES ITS OWN EFFECTIVENESS.

TWO NOT PRESENT ONE PARTLY SIX FULLY. AFTER TODAY, YOU CAN SAY FULLY.

OKAY, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME DOING THIS. I'VE BEEN ON BOARD TWO YEARS, SO I SAID NOT PRESENT.

THAT'S NOT PRESENT. OKAY. SO NOW YOU CAN MARK PRESENT.

YAY! NUMBER 25. THE BOARD ADHERES TO ITS OWN OPERATING PROCEDURES OR GOVERNANCE POLICIES.

I HAVE THREE PARTIES AND SIX FOLEY'S. ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO IMPROVE THAT? ANY THOUGHTS? I THINK I THINK SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED OPENLY, BUT I THINK OUR BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES HAVEN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE ALMOST 2018, I THINK MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOMEWHERE OVER THE YEARS.

SO PROBABLY CHANCE TO LOOK AT THOSE AGAIN. PROBABLY TIME TO LOOK AT THOSE AGAIN.

IN ADDITION TO THE MAJORITY OF THIS BOARD IS IN ITS FIRST TERM.

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SO REFRESHING EVERYONE'S MEMORY ON THE OPERATING PROCEDURES.

YEAH, IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO COME IN AND TAKE A LOOK AT THEM AND THEN COME BACK TO THE GROUP AND SAY, WE RECOMMEND THIS ADDITION, THIS SUBTRACTION.

AND IT'S A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO JUST EDUCATE YOURSELF ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOUR ROLE IS BECAUSE THOSE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, I'M PARTIAL TO IT WERE WELL WRITTEN BECAUSE BECAUSE I WROTE THEM, BUT I DIDN'T WRITE THEM FROM SCRATCH.

I, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK WE TOOK WHAT WE THOUGHT WERE THE BEST MODELS TO GO BY.

BUT I ACTUALLY LEARNED A LOT IN IN UPDATING THEM WHEN, WHEN I WHEN I DID THAT THE LAST TIME.

AND I THINK THE, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SO MANY NEW BOARD MEMBERS IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD TO, TO HAVE THEM GO THROUGH THOSE RULES. AND BECAUSE YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T REALLY GET THAT UNDERSTANDING UNTIL YOU'VE HAD TO, YOU'VE HAD TO READ THROUGH ALL THOSE RULES AND SOMETIMES IT FEELS RANDOM AND ARBITRARY FOR YOU TO BE TOLD, NO, THE BOARD OPERATES AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT THING IS.

SO IT'S HELPFUL IF I KNOW IN ADVANCE WHAT'S OKAY AND WHAT'S NOT OKAY.

AND IT MAKES A GREAT TRAINER FOR YOUR NEW BOARD MEMBERS.

SO I PERSONALLY BELIEVE IT'S TIME TO RELOOK AT TEN YEARS IS A LONG TIME.

ALMOST. IT IS A LONG TIME. YEAH. AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

TIMES HAVE CHANGED. PEOPLE HAVE CHANGED. AND YOU'VE LEARNED THINGS FROM OTHER DISTRICTS.

THINGS. ABSOLUTELY. AND SO THERE AND ACTUALLY, I THINK AT LEAST EVERY FIVE YEARS, THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES SHOULD BE REVIEWED BY A COMMITTEE. AND THEN THE COMMITTEE BRINGS BACK RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE FULL BOARD.

YEAH. THE WHOLE BOARD DOESN'T NEED TO WRESTLE WITH IT. NO.

AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURE IS NOT ENTIRELY, BUT PRIMARILY A COMPILATION OF OUR EXISTING BE POLICIES.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A DOCUMENT IN A VACUUM. IT OUTLINES WHAT IS STATED IN BE LOCAL.

IT OUTLINES WHAT IS STATED IN GCC FOR COMPLAINTS, ETC.

IS THAT ACCURATE? RIGHT. AND SOME SOME PLACES IT'S ACTUALLY A DOCUMENT THAT DOESN'T APPEAR IN POLICY.

SOME OF THOSE. YEAH. THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT COMPLETE. BUT MOST OF IT IS.

MOST OF IT IS SOMEWHERE IN POLICY. YES. I THINK NEW TRUSTEE SHOULD HAVE TO COPY IT BY HAND AND TURN IT INTO.

NO KIDDING. BUT THIS DOES BRING UP A QUESTION AROUND POLICY IN GENERAL BECAUSE AND NOT TO REHASH WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF POLICY, ETC., BUT I THINK AT SOME POINT POLICY EVENTUALLY BECOMES LIKE A CORAL REEF WE ADD AND NEVER REMOVE.

AND WHAT WAS SOLVING A PROBLEM AT ONE POINT MIGHT BE CAUSING A PROBLEM NOW.

YOU'RE RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATION LIKE THIS CONVERSATION AROUND POLICY? I FULLY AGREE. WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE A STANDING WAY IN WHICH IT GETS REVISITED EVERY FIVE YEARS AND JUST SEES WHAT'S UPDATED TO THINK ABOUT OUR GENERAL SET OF LOCAL POLICIES AND WHICH ONES, NOT JUST BASED ON WHAT TASB SAYS, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY GUIDANCE ON HOW OFTEN OR HOW FREQUENTLY A BOARD SHOULD HAVE A CYCLE? SOME POLICIES PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO BE LOOKED AT EVERY YEAR, BUT PROBABLY EVERY FIVE YEARS.

MAYBE WE OUGHT TO CONSIDER THIS. WE DID IT ABOUT EVERY 7 TO 10 AND WENT THROUGH EVERY POLICY AND ANYTHING THAT WAS GOING TO THE STAFF DID IT, AND ANYTHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE RECOMMENDED TO REMOVE WAS PUT IN READ.

SO THE BOARD COULD LOOK AT IT AND SAY, NOPE, WE WANT TO KEEP THAT ONE, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OLD BATTLES THAT WERE FOUGHT OVER SOME OF THOSE, SOME OF THOSE WORDS. BUT IT'S, IT IS A MONUMENTAL JOB.

IT WAS A MONUMENTAL JOB. I THINK BOARD SERVICES DID IT ONE YEAR AND THEN THE SUPERINTENDENT CHIEF OF STAFF DID IT ANOTHER TIME.

I'VE ONLY SEEN IT DONE TWICE, BUT TASB IS A BIG HELP.

BUT A LOT OF IT'S JUST YOUR LOCAL POINT OF VIEW AND THAT'S WHERE YOU NEED TO LOOK AT IT YOURSELF, BUT NOT TOO FREQUENTLY. YOU'LL DRIVE YOURSELF NUTS, OF COURSE, BUT OBVIOUSLY TO DO ALL OF THEM WOULD BE A LOT.

BUT I'M SAYING LIKE MAYBE EVERY FOUR YEARS THE D POLICIES GET LOOKED AT AND REFRESHED.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. EVERY FIVE YEARS, LIKE EVERY FIVE YEARS, THE B POLICIES AND BOARD OPERATING PROCEDURES GET LOOKED AT AND REFRESHED, ETC.. YEAH. OKAY. AND MAYBE EVERY DECADE YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE DOING THOSE ON A RECURRING BASIS, THEN YOU'VE ALREADY DONE IT. SO YEAH.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT IS HOW I THINK I WAS ENVISIONING WOULD BE LIKE, WE WOULD TAKE ONE AND THAT DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE DONE RIGHT IS MOST OF THE POLICIES REST WITH ONE CHIEF. MOST OF C POLICIES REST BECAUSE THEY'RE FACILITIES OR OPERATIONS, RIGHT? AND SOME ARE ABOUT INSTRUCTION AND SOME ARE ABOUT STUDENTS, AND THEN SOME ARE ABOUT PERSONNEL.

SO, YOU KNOW, CHIEF ABEL HAS HIS. SO WHICHEVER GROUP WE WOULD START WITH, THEN THAT TEAM WOULD REVIEW THEM AGAIN.

WE DON'T DO POLICY, BUT WE WOULD BRING FROM OUR LIMITED PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF WORKING WITH IT TO THE BOARD,

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THAT WOULD THEN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT CATHY JUST SAID, LIKE, NO, THAT ONE NEEDS TO STAY.

SO EVEN IF WE SAID, OH, HERE'S SOME. ONLY THE BOARD WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TO ACTUALLY REMOVE THEM, BUT WE COULD BRING THEM IN. THAT SORT OF A SYSTEMATIC WAY AND THEN ROTATE SO THAT WE'RE NOT DOING IT EVERY YEAR.

EXACTLY, EXACTLY. YEAH. I THINK MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THAT IS, IS THAT I'M STILL WITH A POLICY COMMITTEE, WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO BE ABLE TO FILTER THROUGH BEFORE IT BRINGS BRING IT TO THE FULL BOARD.

YEAH, I THINK THAT PROBABLY IS FAIR WHEN THERE ARE THAT MANY THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT THAT DID NOT GO FRESH TO THE BOARD, BUT THAT THERE'S A PRESCREEN BY AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.

CORRECT? THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO ASK IF TRUSTEE MACKEY COULD EXPLAIN HIS CORAL REEF METAPHOR.

HOW DID THAT. SO USUALLY WHAT I'VE SEEN AND WHAT I'VE SEEN HERE IS LIKE, THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S AN ISSUE.

AND SO WE GO AND WE ADJUST OR ADD SOME POLICY LANGUAGE TO SOLVE FOR AN ISSUE.

AND ONCE IT'S IN POLICY, UNLESS SOMEONE MAKES THE EXPLICIT PURPOSE TO GO BACK AND REVISE IT, IT PRETTY MUCH STAYS. AND IT JUST WE CONTINUE TO ADD BOARDS, CONTINUE TO ADD BOARDS VERY RARELY.

AND I THINK THIS BOARD CREDIT TO ITSELF HAS DONE THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN MOST BOARDS VERY RARELY REMOVE POLICY THAT MAY NOT BE MEANINGFUL, MIGHT BE RESTRICTING. AND I THINK THE THE COST THAT GETS CAUGHT HERE IS EVEN IF IT'S A DECENT POLICY, IT ALL COMES WITH A COST. SUPERINTENDENT AND THEIR TEAM HAVE TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF RED TAPE TO ADHERE TO THAT.

THERE IS SOME VALUE IN THAT. I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY RED TAPE. THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME CONSTRAINTS, BUT WE MUST ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THAT'S A REAL COST. AND IF WE'RE IF IT'S NO LONGER THE ISSUE THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY THERE TO SOLVE, IT MIGHT BE WORTH IT TO TAKE THAT AWAY TO GIVE THEM MORE FLEXIBILITY.

SO THANK YOU. I WAS REALLY MORE INTERESTED IN THE CORAL REEF PART.

I GOT THE CONCEPT, BUT, BUT BUT IT ALSO BEGS TO BE KIND OF LOOPED BACK TO NUMBER NINE WHEN WE SAID THE BOARD IS DILIGENT ABOUT MONITORING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ITS POLICIES TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE ACHIEVING THE INTENDED OBJECTIVES.

IF WE GET ON THAT TYPE OF REVIEW CYCLE, IT FEELS LIKE THAT'S THE BUILT IN MECHANISM BY WHICH WE CAN ACTUALLY FOCUS, RIGHT? AND I WOULD LIMIT THAT ENORMOUSLY TO WHAT ARE THE REALLY MOST IMPORTANT POLICIES, BECAUSE MONITORING TAKES A LOT OF ENERGY.

IT. IT DOES. AND TO YOUR POINT THOUGH, AND TO YOUR POINT, TRUSTEE MACKEY, I, I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S MONITORING, THERE'S OPEN CONVERSATIONS, THERE'S FOCUSING THINGS THAT ARE PRIORITIZATION.

AND ALSO WE STILL GOT A LOT OF POLICIES AND SO, AND SO THEY ALL, IT'S ALMOST KIND OF LIKE A, A TWO LAYER OR TWO TIER STRATEGY OF MAKING SURE THAT WE STILL GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THEM, TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE IMPACT WHEN THEY'RE THE FOCUS, WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING THEM IN THE COMMITTEE, THERE'S SPECIFIC QUESTIONS WE CAN ASK ABOUT DATA IMPACT CONVERSATIONS AND THE STAFF.

WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BUT IT ALLOWS US TO COVER ALL OF OUR BASES.

SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THE THE ROTATING REVIEW HELPS US WITH NUMBER NINE AS WELL.

YEAH. NUMBER SECTION A YEAR RATHER THAN THE WHOLE THING.

RIGHT? EXACTLY. EAT THE ELEPHANT ONE BITE AT A TIME.

OKAY. ANY FINAL THOUGHTS? IF YOU HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON HOW THIS INSTRUMENT CAN BE IMPROVED, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. BE GLAD TO PASS IT ON TO HOLDSWORTH, WHO IS GOING TO SUPPOSEDLY OFFER A FRESHMAN SESSION THIS SUMMER, I THINK. I'M HOPING IF ANY OF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO THE TEXAS INSTITUTE.

WE USED TO DO IT IN SANTA FE. SORRY. THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO DO IT IN AUSTIN.

BUT I DO. BY THE WAY, IF YOU'RE EVER LOOKING FOR GREAT VACATION SPOT IN JULY.

SANTA FE, BEAUTIFUL WEATHER. BUT THEY I WOULD BE GLAD TO PASS ON ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU THINK CAN BE MADE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE HAVE A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO. I'VE ACTUALLY STOLEN SEVERAL OF THESE QUESTIONS FROM FORT BEND ISD WHO FELT WE HADN'T COVERED THE GROUND ENOUGH, AND THEY CAME UP WITH SOME NEW QUESTIONS.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE PUT ON THE AGENDA WAS A DISCUSSION OF THE MISSION AND VISION, AND I.

DO YOU WANT TO PURSUE THAT THIS EVENING? YES, YES.

TRUSTEE WILL NOW TURN TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE. THIS WILL BE FIVE C VISION AND MISSION.

AND IF I COULD KATHY, IF YOU'LL GIVE ME A MOMENT.

I MADE COPIES OF WHAT OUR CURRENT POLICY IS AND HAS THE CURRENT MISSION VISION

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OKAY. GREAT, GREAT. SO WHILE SHE'S PASSING THAT OUT, LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MISSION AND VISION.

IT OFTEN FEELS DUPLICATIVE. WHY DO I NEED ALL THESE THINGS? THE MISSION IS THE CORE ACTIVITY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT.

ACTUALLY, THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS GIVEN YOU YOUR MISSION.

YOUR MISSION IS NOT TO SAVE THE WHALES. IT'S NOT TO PLANT MORE TREES.

YOU HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC MISSION THAT YOU'RE HERE FOR.

YOUR VISION IS WHERE YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT MISSION.

THE, YOU KNOW, THE AUDACIOUS GOALS THAT YOU HAVE, THE VISION, HOW FAR INTO THE FUTURE, HOW BIG DO YOU WANT TO BE IN ACCOMPLISHING YOUR MISSION? AND THAT'S THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.

SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT A BAG IS. B HAGG A BIG, HAIRY, AUDACIOUS GOAL AND THAT CAN BE YOUR MISSION. THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, REALLY STRONG.

SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ASPIRED TO. BUT YOUR MISSION IS THIS MUNDANE THING HERE THAT YOU'RE HERE TO DO EVERY DAY.

SO DOES THAT HELP A LITTLE BIT? SO RIGHT NOW, YOUR MISSION IS EDUCATING ALL STUDENTS FOR SUCCESS AND YOUR VISION IS DALLAS ISD WILL BE A PREMIER URBAN SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND IT'S PROBABLY BEEN MANY YEARS SINCE THOSE WERE DEVELOPED.

AND THEY MAY BE PERFECT, OR YOU MAY HAVE SOME HEARTBURN OVER THOSE AND WANT TO SEE THEM CHANGED A LITTLE.

PLEASE. I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER CHANGING THE THE VISION TO BE A LITTLE MORE AUDACIOUS, A LITTLE MORE BABY.

YEAH. TO BE A PREMIER URBAN SCHOOL DISTRICT. TO BE THE PREMIER URBAN SCHOOL DISTRICT.

YEAH. YEAH. GOTTA MAKE A MOTION, BYRON. YEAH.

I, I REALLY THANK YOU FOR USHERING THIS CONVERSATION.

I FEEL VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT US SPENDING A LITTLE TIME AROUND THE MISSION AND THE VISION.

I THINK MISSION STATEMENTS CAN BE THE, THE, THE PRIMARY ROUTES FOR YOUR TREE OF EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THE DISTRICT DOES.

I DON'T AND, AND AS SUCH, BEING NONSPECIFIC OR BEING SO GENERIC, I DON'T THINK SERVES US PARTICULARLY WELL BECAUSE WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IF I'M CHOOSING I GOT CHARTER SCHOOLS AROUND HERE.

I COULD GO TO OUT OF DISTRICT DISTRICT. I CAN GO TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS.

I CAN DO NOW A VOUCHER. WHY IS DALLAS ISD IMPORTANT? WHAT IS OUR ANCHOR? WHAT SETS OUR NORTH STAR? AND I BELIEVE THAT FEELS VERY VISIONARY. BUT THE VISION COMES FROM THE MISSION.

YEAH. THE MISSION IS NOT TO SAVE THE TREES. WHAT IS YOUR MISSION? RIGHT. WHAT IS THE MISSION OF THIS DISTRICT? WELL, I, I'M SAYING THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE ANSWER.

PUT SOME WORDS OUT THERE. YEAH. NO, NO, I, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO CASUALLY GET TO IT.

I THINK THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN INVOLVED CONVERSATION PROCESS.

YEAH. YEAH, USUALLY WHAT I DO IS HAVE YOU GUYS WORK IN SMALL GROUPS.

YOU GOT TO DO SOME WRITING. YOU GOT TO, YOU KNOW, TRY SOME STUFF OUT AND THEN PUT THEM UP ON SOME CHARTS AND PEOPLE LOOK AT IT AND GO, NO, I CAN GO WITH THIS ONE, BUT NOT THAT ONE.

AND EVENTUALLY YOU BEGIN TO REACH A CONSENSUS ON WHAT THIS GROUP CONSIDERS TO BE ITS MISSION AND WHAT THIS GROUP CONSIDERS TO BE A VISION FOR THAT MISSION.

SO JUST MENTIONING THAT AS A. GOOD. WELL, I AGREE WITH TRUSTEE SANDERS THAT I THINK THIS IS A MORE INVOLVED PROCESS THAN A, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME WE'RE PLANNING ON SPENDING ON THIS TONIGHT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE OUGHT TO SPEND SOME SIGNIFICANT TIME ON. BUT I ALSO THROW LANGUAGE OUT BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE FUN OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS DOING THAT. I THE MISSION IS NOT FAR OFF FOR, I MEAN, I, I ENVISION PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS GIVING STUDENTS THE TOOLS TO LIVE THE LIVES THEY WANT TO LEAD, HOWEVER THAT MAY BE. SAY IT AGAIN. THE TOOLS TO GIVE STUDENTS.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS THE MISSION, BUT THIS IS THE CONCEPT TO GIVE STUDENTS THE TOOLS TO LIVE THE LIVES THEY WANT TO LEAD.

OKAY. TO GIVE THEM THE. WE WANT THEM TO GO OUT AND NOT LEAVE WHAT I THINK THEIR BEST LIFE.

BUT WHAT IS THEIR WHAT THEY THINK THEIR BEST LIFE IS.

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AND SO I'M EDUCATING ALL STUDENTS FOR SUCCESS, ACTUALLY, SOMEWHAT CLOSE TO THAT CONCEPT.

I DON'T, YOU KNOW I DON'T LIKE OUR VISION AT ALL PERSONALLY BECAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT A PREMIER URBAN SCHOOL DISTRICT IS.

I CAN'T MAYBE A LOW BAR AND DEFINE IT. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST DOESN'T SEEM, I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S NOT A GOAL, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MEASURABLE IT NEEDS TO BE, BUT IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A THING THAT ONCE SOMEONE HEARS THAT, THAT SAYS, OH, THAT'S WHAT DALLAS ISD IS.

WELL, THAT JUST TELLS ME YOU WANT TO BE A GOOD BIG SCHOOL DISTRICT. WELL, DOESN'T EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT'S GOOD AND BIG WANT TO BE GOOD AND BIG LIKE THAT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT US OR OUR COMMUNITY IN ANY WAY.

AND ARE YOU ALREADY THERE? AND I THINK WE'RE THE BEST URBAN SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE COUNTRY.

I THINK WE HAVE THE BEST SUPERINTENDENT STAFF IN THE COUNTRY. BUT BUT THE BEST BOARD AND THE BEST BOARD. BYRON'S BETTER AT TALKING ABOUT HIMSELF THAN I AM.

SO NO, I'M KIDDING. BUT BUT I JUST YOU AND I JOKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY, WHICH IS WHY THAT CAME UP.

RIGHT? BUT I JUST, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US PUT SOMETHING WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE MEAT ON THE BONES, ON THE VISIONS, ON BOTH OF THEM. BUT ON THE VISION SIDE IN PARTICULAR.

YEAH, IN HOUSTON, WE REALLY STRUGGLED WITH IT.

AND WE FINALLY SAID WHAT WE WANTED TO BE WAS THE EDUCATION OPTION OF CHOICE FOR EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY WANTED EVERYONE TO SAY, I NEED TO BE IN AN HISD SCHOOL BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE GOOD STUFF IS HAPPENING.

THAT WAS PRETTY BIG AND HAIRY AND AUDACIOUS FOR THE TIME.

AND, AND EVERY TIME WE MADE A DECISION, WE MADE IT WITH THAT IN MIND.

IS THIS SERVING EVERYBODY? ARE WE GOING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE IN WHEN WE DO THIS, OR ARE WE GOING TO PUSH THEM OUT WHEN WE DO SUCH AND SUCH? SO IT GIVES YOU A MIRROR TO HOLD UP TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO DECIDE, ARE YOU DOING THE RIGHT THINGS? ARE YOU GOING TO REACH YOUR BAG? THAT CONCEPT OF A LENS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE JUST SET ALL OUR GOALS AND OUR CONSTRAINTS, BUT BEING ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, DOES THIS GOAL MATCH OUR MISSION AND OUR VISION OR NOT? I THINK PROBABLY THEY DO, BUT WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT ANY OF OUR GOALS AND CONSTRAINTS IN THAT CONTEXT.

WELL, THE OTHER THING THAT THAT I THINK WE CAN ANCHOR IN OUR MISSION OR OUR VISION IS THE IS ANCHORING IT ON WHO ARE WE HERE FOR, RIGHT? WHAT IS THE VISION OF THE CHILD THAT COMES THROUGH DALLAS ISD OR THE GROUP OR THE, THE GENERATION OF CHILDREN THAT ARE COMING THROUGH? DALLAS ISD. SO FOR ME, A VISION AND I'M COMPLETELY RIFFING HERE, SO IT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETELY INARTICULATE.

YEAH. WE WILL NOT HOLD YOUR FEET TO THE FIRE. THANK YOU. NO ONE'S WATCHING. I'M SPEAKING. YEAH. NO, NO ONE'S WATCHING.

ALL THESE CAMERAS. YOU KNOW, THE VISION TO ME WOULD BE TO BE THE ENGINE OF A GENERATION OF DALLAS CHILDREN TO LIVE THE THRIVING LIVES OF, OF THEIR, OF THEIR CHOICE.

RIGHT. LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO BE THE USUALLY WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT SETTING A VISION, I'M SAYING THAT THERE'S, THERE IS A FAR OFF FUTURE STATE.

AND FOR DALLAS EYES TO BE DALLAS EYES TO BE THE PRIMARY ENGINE OF OPPORTUNITY FOR CHILDREN FOR GENERATIONS. OKAY. YEAH. CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? JUST ABOUT THE MEANING OF A VISION AND THE MEANING OF A MISSION IS THE MISSION SORT OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AND THE VISION, SORT OF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT. OKAY. YEAH.

WELL THAT'S DIFFERENT. SO I ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT A VISION.

A MISSION IS WHAT WE DO TO CREATE A VISION, SOME FUTURE STATE OF BEING, NOT HOW WE DO IT.

I SEE HOW WE DO IT IN THE STRATEGIES AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE EFFECTUATE.

AND THE THE VISION IS OFTEN ASPIRATIONAL, RIGHT? YOU'RE NOT THERE, BUT YOU WANT TO BE THERE. YEAH.

SO SOMETHING LIKE GOING OFF OF BYRON'S POINT HERE IS LIKE, THE VISION IS FOR EVERY STUDENT TO LIVE CHOICE FILLED LIVES OF THEIR WHATEVER THE MISSION IS, HOW DO WE DO IT? PROVIDE THE BEST EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCES AND LIKE EVERY SINGLE DAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BLAH BLAH, BLAH. YEP. YEAH, I WOULD, I MEAN, I JUST THINK, I THINK THE REAL QUESTION THAT IF I'M SUGGESTING WE THINK ABOUT TONIGHT IS DO WE WANT TO REVISIT THESE? YES, THAT'S AND THAT'S IT.

I THINK US TALKING ABOUT WHAT I THINK INDIVIDUALLY RIGHT NOW ON THE SPOT I THINK MAKES NO SENSE.

AND HONESTLY. IT LEAVES OUT A LOT OF VOICES. AND I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AND WE ALREADY HAVE A BASIS OF THIS,

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I THINK WE SHOULD START WITH THAT AND THEN TAKE THAT AND THEN LIKE HAVE AN AD HOC OR COMMITTEE, A WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING TO DO THIS LANGUAGE GROUNDING IN WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS ALREADY SAID AND WHAT WE HEAR.

VERY HELPFUL. AND THEN GO BACK AND TAKE THAT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY BEFORE WE DECIDE WHAT THIS IS.

AGREED. YEAH. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A PROCESS THAT YOU GUYS COULD LIVE WITH? YES. SO WHAT WE'RE KICKING OFF TONIGHT IS THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THOSE TWO THINGS BASED ON FEEDBACK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN FROM THE COMMUNITY, DEFINING WHAT THEY WANT FROM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND THAT FROM THERE AND YOUR OWN FEELINGS, YOU CRAFT A NEW VISION, MISSION AND VISION.

PERFECT. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, ROUND A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.

YEAH! YAY! GOOD JOB, GOOD JOB. TRUSTEES, WE'LL TURN TO AGENDA ITEM FIVE.

I GUESS IT'S B HERE, BUT I GUESS ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

MRS. PAM MAYOR COURT. YES. I DON'T KNOW, MY HEAD.

MY HEAD IS KIND OF TIRED AFTER ALL OF THIS. AND AFTER THE SUCH JOYFUL LEGISLATIVE NEWS, TOO.

OH, OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO DO THIS VERY QUICKLY.

THIS IS REQUIRED TRAINING AND I'M GLAD TO BE HERE.

I'VE ENJOYED BEING YOUR SUBSTITUTE PARLIAMENTARIAN ON OCCASION, AND I ENJOY BEING ABLE TO COME AND BE WITH YOU ALL.

SO LET'S GO THROUGH WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT REALLY FAST.

THIS IS GOING TO BE SHORT AND SWEET BECAUSE WE ALL WANT TO GET HOME.

SO YOU CAN THE NEXT SLIDE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE KEYS TO EFFECTIVE BOARD MEETING AND GOOD GOVERNANCE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A FEW CONCEPTS IN ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

NEXT SLIDE. TALKING ABOUT THE KEYS TO EFFECTIVE BOARD MEETING.

I THOUGHT AS YOU ALL WENT THROUGH THAT WORK AND YOU ALL GRADED YOURSELVES AND SAID YOU THAT YOUR MEETINGS WERE VERY EFFECTIVE, I THOUGHT, WELL, THIS IS KIND OF SILLY THAT I'M DOING THIS PART BECAUSE YOU ARE AN EFFECTIVE BOARD.

YOU ALL DO OPERATE VERY EFFECTIVELY WITH A LOT OF TOUGH SUBJECTS THAT YOU DEAL WITH.

THERE ARE RULES FOR YOUR ORGANIZATION AND YOU ALL KNOW THEM.

OBVIOUSLY THE MOST IMPORTANT IN THIS HIERARCHY OF RULES THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW ARE YOUR LEGAL RULES.

THE THINGS THAT EITHER THE US OR THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION TELL YOU YOU HAVE TO DO OR WHAT TIA TELLS YOU YOU HAVE TO DO OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOU DO HAVE A THIS IS MAYBE A BAD WORD TO MENTION.

NOW. LOCALS. BOARD POLICIES. YOU ALL HAVE JUST DISCUSSED THOSE A LOT THINGS THAT YOU HAVE ADOPTED AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER.

YOU ALSO DO HAVE YOUR OWN SPECIAL RULES OF ORDER, HOW YOU HANDLE THINGS.

THEN YOU HAVE YOUR RULES OF ORDER, YOUR OFFICIAL ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER THAT YOU FOLLOW WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A RULE THAT YOU CAN FOLLOW, THAT YOU'VE MADE YOURSELF. THEN YOU HAVE STANDING RULES, WHICH ARE ADMINISTRATIVE TYPE THINGS, AND YOU HAVE YOUR TRADITIONS AND YOUR PRACTICES AND YOUR CUSTOMS FOR THINGS THAT YOU DO.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO KEYS TO EFFECTIVE BOARD MEETINGS.

I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY TELL ME WHAT THESE ARE AFTER ALL OF THIS GREAT DISCUSSION YOU'VE HAD.

YOUR PRESIDING OFFICER AND YOU ALL HAVE A WONDERFUL PRESIDING OFFICER AS YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW, WHO LEADS VERY EFFECTIVE MEETINGS HE OR SHE PRESIDES AT THE MEETINGS, OBVIOUSLY APPROVES THE AGENDA, SIGNS LEGAL DOCUMENTS, CALLS, MEETING NECESSARY, ETC..

AND IF YOU PAY ATTENTION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING TO THE SCRIPT, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT IN YOUR MEETINGS, HE DOES ALSO DETERMINE THAT THERE'S A QUORUM.

YOU CAN HAVE A LEGAL MEETING. AND THAT QUORUM FOR YOU ALL IS FIVE.

NEXT SLIDE. SO THE QUORUM IS THE MINIMUM NUMBERS.

YOU MUST BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT. AND SINCE COVID AND ALL THE FUN AND NOW ALL THE VIDEO CONFERENCING THAT WE DO, WE HAVE TO HAVE RULES ABOUT VIDEO CONFERENCES.

AND YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM IN ONE PLACE TOGETHER.

BUT THEN THE OTHERS CAN BE AVAILABLE BY VIDEO CONFERENCE CALL.

AS LONG AS EVERYBODY CAN SEE EACH OTHER AND EVERYBODY CAN HEAR EACH OTHER.

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NEXT SLIDE. THEN. WE ALSO YOU ALSO HAVE AN AGENDA AND YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL STAFF THAT SENDS THAT OUT AHEAD OF TIME. OF COURSE, THAT IS A LEGAL DOCUMENT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE TOLD BY LAW WHEN IT HAS TO GO OUT AND WHAT IT HAS TO CONTAIN.

AND PART OF THAT IS SO THE PUBLIC IS, IS INFORMED AND THEY KNOW THE BUSINESS SO THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK AT THE MEETING, AT THE OPEN SESSIONS. NEXT SLIDE. WE TALKED ABOUT COMING AND BEING PREPARED.

SO THIS IS FOR INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS. OBVIOUSLY, THE MORE PREPARED YOU ARE AS INDIVIDUALS, THE MORE EFFICIENT YOUR MEETING IS, THE QUICKER YOU GET THROUGH YOUR YOUR BUSINESS, YOUR AGENDA, AND ALL OF THE SUPPORTING MATERIALS ARE POSTED UP FOR YOU.

SO THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

AND THEN ALSO TO SEEK ADDITIONAL MATERIALS IF YOU NEED IT.

AND YOU HAVE THREE WEEKS TO REVIEW AND ASK QUESTIONS BEFOREHAND.

SO NEXT SLIDE. IN YOUR MEETING DISCUSS ONE THING AT A TIME.

YOU ALL ARE GOOD ABOUT THAT. YOU ALL ARE GOOD AT PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE.

AND A NOTHING IS ON THE FLOOR OR CAN BE DISCUSSED UNLESS THERE'S BEEN A MOTION.

A MOTION PUTS SOMETHING BEFORE THE ASSEMBLY TO DISCUSS, AND ONLY ONE MAIN MOTION CAN BE BEFORE YOU AT A TIME.

AND OBVIOUSLY, THAT HELPS EVERYBODY KEEP TRACK OF WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WE DON'T START CHASING RABBITS. WE STICK TO THE THE TOPIC AND THE MOTION AT HAND.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOUR YOUR CHAIR DOES SO WELL.

AND NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS ABOUT YOUR, YOUR MEETING LOCATIONS, WHICH IS SOMETHING ALSO IN YOUR THAT YOU HAVE THAT I'M SORRY, THAT WAS. I GOT, I WENT TOO FAR PART OF YOUR OTHER JOB AS A, AS A BOARD MEMBER IS TO BE OBJECTIVE TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON FACTS. AND YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT DATA A LOT.

SO I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT DATA, LOOKING AT FACTS, MAKING THE BEST DECISIONS, AND YOU'RE WORKING FOR THE WHOLE DISTRICT AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. THESE ARE NOT PERSONAL DECISIONS.

THESE ARE BASED ON WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE WHOLE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND YOU DO HAVE AN OPEN MINDSET. AND YOU YOU ALL ARE VERY GOOD ABOUT LISTENING TO EACH OTHER AND ASKING QUESTIONS AND CONSIDERING ALL THE, ALL THE ANGLES IN CONSTRUCTIVE AND HAVING CONSTRUCTIVE DISCUSSION AND DEBATE.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT DISCUSSING ONE ITEM AT A TIME.

AND THEN THE FINAL ONE WAS YOUR MEETING LOCATION, WHICH IS SET WHAT YOU HAVE TO PUT IN IN YOUR MEETING LOCATION, WHERE OR WHEN HAS TO BE IN A D ISD BUILDING AND WHAT YOUR CUSTOMS AND PRACTICES ARE.

SO A FEW THINGS ABOUT ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

NOW, MOVING TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT ARE THE BASIC CONCEPTS OF ROBERT AND WHY DO WE USE ROBERT AND YOU USE ROBERT IN A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS. SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW DOESN'T JUST APPLY HERE.

IT APPLIES IN YOUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS. IT APPLIES IN YOUR HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION MEETINGS.

IT APPLIES IN YOUR CLUB MEETINGS. IT APPLIES IN YOUR CHURCH MEETINGS.

IT APPLIES IF YOU ARE A SCOUT LEADER, YOU DO THESE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO LEARNING A LITTLE BIT OF ROBERT'S CAN BE VERY HELPFUL.

ROBERT IS THERE TO RECOGNIZE THE RIGHT OF THE MAJORITY TO RULE.

AND WE ALL KIND OF TAKE THAT AS A BASIC WELL, DUH.

BUT THAT WAS KIND OF AN ACCEPTED PRACTICE. THE MAJORITY RULES AND THE MAJORITY IS MORE THAN HALF.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THE, OF THE MINORITY AND THEIR OPINION AND LISTEN TO THEM AND GIVE THEM A FAIR OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. AND WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THE ABSENT MEMBERS THAT WE DON'T JUST DO THINGS AND RUN OVER THEIR RIGHTS TO VOTE OR PARTICIPATE OR DISCUSS THINGS. AS I SAID, WE, WE DISCUSS ONE MATTER AT A TIME.

WE ALLOW FOR FREE AND OPEN DEBATE. WE'RE OPEN TO DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS.

AND THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT, TO MANAGE THAT.

AND ALL OF THIS ENABLES US TO CONDUCT BUSINESS IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME AND TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE FAIR AND JUST, AND AT ALL TIMES THAT WE ARE COURTEOUS TO EACH OTHER AND THAT WE ALL AGREE ON CODES OF CONDUCT AND THE WAY THAT WE TREAT

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AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND I DO HOPE ALL OF YOU, YOU MAY NOT WANT TO HAVE THE BIG ROBERT, BUT YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE HIS BRIEF COMPANION BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY WHAT YOU NEED FOR EVERYTHING, FOR ALL OF YOUR MEETINGS. AND SO I'M FINISHED.

UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. JUST. JUST TALK FAST.

YOU ALL ARE GOOD. YOU ALL KNOW THIS STUFF. THANK YOU.

AND I DID NOT PAY YOU FOR THE VARIOUS COMPLIMENTS THERE.

THANK YOU. TRUSTEES QUESTIONS? NO.

OKAY. TRUSTEES. I'VE NOT SEEN ANY QUESTIONS. AND WITH THAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU ALL FOR PRESENTING TODAY.

TRUSTEES. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN TO AGENDA ITEM SIX.

ADJOURNMENT. THE TIME IS 6:53 P.M. AND THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.