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[1. Notice and Return]

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THE TIME IS 4:41 P.M..

WE HAVE A QUORUM AND THE MEETING HAS BEEN DULY POSTED.

GOOD AFTERNOON, AND WELCOME TO THE CALLED BOARD MEETING OF THE DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

IF YOU ARE ABLE, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN US FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND A SALUTE TO THE TEXAS FLAG.

. THE FOLLOWING TRUSTEES ARE EITHER PHYSICALLY PRESENT OR PARTICIPATING SIMULTANEOUSLY BY VIDEO CONFERENCE. A QUORUM OF THE BOARD IS PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT THIS LOCATION.

TRUSTEE FOR DISTRICT ONE.

LANCE CURRIE. TRUSTEE FOR DISTRICT TWO SARA WEINBERG, TRUSTEE FOR DISTRICT THREE DAN MICCICHE, TRUSTEE FOR DISTRICT FOUR CAMILLE WHITE, TRUSTEE FOR DISTRICT SIX JOYCE FORMAN, TRUSTEE FOR DISTRICT SEVEN BEN MCKEE, OUR SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS.

STEPHANIE LASALLE, JOINS US.

AND I AM JOE CARREON, TRUSTEE FOR DISTRICT EIGHT AND BOARD PRESIDENT.

THE MEETING WILL BE AVAILABLE SIMULTANEOUSLY IN SPANISH ON SOCIAL MEDIA THROUGH DALLAS ISD AND ESPANOL, ON FACEBOOK AND THROUGH THE DISTRICT'S WEBSITE AS TRANSMITTED. [SPANISH].

IN ORDER FOR THE BOARD TO HOLD THIS MEETING IN AN EFFECTIVE MANNER, I WANT TO LET IT BE KNOWN THAT THIS MEETING WILL BE CONDUCTED IN AN ORDERLY FASHION AND ASK THE PUBLIC TO ABIDE BY THE RULES OUTLINED IN BOARD POLICY BD LOCAL PERTAINING TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

IT IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE FOR A PERSON WITH THE INTENT TO PREVENT OR DISRUPT A LAWFUL MEETING, TO SUBSTANTIALLY OBSTRUCT OR INTERFERE WITH THE ORDINARY CONDUCT OF A MEETING BY PHYSICAL ACTION OR VERBAL UTTERANCE AND THEREBY CURTAIL THE EXERCISE OF OTHERS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

SPEAKERS ARE CAUTIONED THAT WHAT THEY SAY COULD VIOLATE THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS UNDER THE LAW OF DEFAMATION OR INVASION OF PRIVACY, AND IF THEY ARE UNSURE OF THE LEGAL EFFECT OF THEIR REMARKS, THEY MAY WANT TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE PRIOR TO THE UTTERANCE.

ANY PERSON WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS, DISRUPTIVE, OR FAILS TO ABIDE BY THE RULES OF THIS ASSEMBLY WHILE ADDRESSING THE BOARD OR WHILE ATTENDING THIS MEETING, SHALL BE ASKED TO LEAVE. FAILURE TO LEAVE WHEN REQUESTED TO DO SO, MAY RESULT IN THE PERSON BEING ESCORTED FROM THE MEETING AND SUBJECT TO ARREST.

OUR AGENDA NOW CALLS FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT SEGMENT OF OUR MEETING.

HOWEVER, I WAS INFORMED NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

TRUSTEES. OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS AN AGENDA ITEM FOR CLOSED SESSION.

HOWEVER, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I WILL TAKE THE AGENDA OUT OF ORDER AND BEGIN WITH AGENDA ITEM 6.B CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION TO

[6. Action Items]

APPROVE THE RESULTS OF THE 23-24 SUPERINTENDENTS SCHOOL EVALUATION INSTRUMENT AND THE 23-24 INCENTIVE PLAN AND THEN GO ON TO CLOSED SESSION PRIOR TO TAKING ACTION ON THAT ITEM.

SO, HEAR NO OBJECTIONS.

DR. LEAR OR? THANK YOU, PRESIDENT CARREON.

GOOD. GOOD EVENING OR GOOD AFTERNOON, TRUSTEES.

SUPERINTENDENT. I'D LIKE TO, IF I COULD GET 23-24 DOCUMENT PULLED UP, PLEASE.

CORRECT THAT ONE.

I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE TRUSTEES THROUGH THE APPRAISAL DOCUMENT.

SORRY. ONE SECOND, ONE SECOND.

I THINK.

I KNOW BETTER NOW.

OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY, SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS, IN ORDER TO BEGIN THE DISCUSSION, DR.

LEAR? I'LL TAKE A MOTION FIRST.

SO, TRUSTEE, WE'RE AT 6.B AND DR.

LEAR, YOU'LL BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION PORTION OF THE MOTION AS IF IT'S A SECONDED.

SO, TRUSTEES, WE'RE ON 6.B CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE RESULTS OF THE 2023-2024 SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS EVALUATION INSTRUMENT AND THE 2023-2024 INCENTIVE PLAN.

TRUSTEES, DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND.

OKAY. TRUSTEES, PRIOR TO DISCUSSION AND CLOSED SESSION.

DR. LEAR. THANK YOU.

PRESIDENT CARREON, I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO ACQUAINT OR REACQUAINT THE BOARD WITH THE FRAMEWORK OF THE TOOL.

THIS IS THE 23-24 SUPERINTENDENT APPRAISAL, AND WE ARE LOOKING OR REVIEWING IT NOW IN DECEMBER BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE ALL OF

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THE DATA POINTS.

THE TAPR REPORT JUST CAME OUT MAYBE ABOUT A WEEK AGO.

IF WE LOOK AT THE TOOL, WE'LL SEE THAT 60% OF THE TOOL IS ALIGNED OR BASED ON ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT.

5% IS FINANCIAL, 22% IS BASED ON CONSTRAINTS.

AND THEN THE REMAINING 13% IS BASED ON STAKEHOLDER INPUT.

THE LAST FOUR POINTS ARE BASED ON THE BOARD'S INPUT.

SO THE INFORMATION THAT I'M SHOWING IN FRONT OF YOU NOW IS PURELY ON METRICS ON THOSE FOUR CATEGORIES.

AND THEN ONCE WE REVIEW THIS, THESE RESULTS, THEN THE BOARD WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT IN CLOSED SESSION FOR THE BOARD PORTION OF THE EVALUATION.

SO, IF WE LOOK AT THE FIRST COLUMN HERE, IT JUST SIMPLY MIRRORS WHAT OUR STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS ARE AND OUR GOAL PROJECT OUR GPMS OR GOAL PROGRESS MEASURES.

THE NEXT COLUMN IS JUST THE NUMBER OF POINTS THAT PARTICULAR GOAL OR GPM.

THE AMOUNT OF POINTS THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT CAN EARN.

AND THEN WE GIVE YOU HISTORICAL RESULTS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE ANY PATTERNS THAT HAVE SURFACED OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

THE NEXT PORTION IS ON PERFORMANCE TARGETS.

AND SO, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE FIRST COLUMN IS UNSATISFACTORY.

AND THAT'S ANYTHING THAT'S BELOW WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE SCORED.

THEN WE GO TO SOMEWHAT SATISFACTORY AND LAST YEAR IN THE AD HOC GROUP, WE DETERMINED THAT WE WOULD USE THE FRAMEWORK OF ADDING ONE POINT FOR SOMEONE SATISFACTORY.

FULLY SATISFACTORY WOULD BE THE ACTUAL TARGET THAT THE BOARD SET IN THE GOALS.

SO EACH OF THE TRUSTEES HAVE YOUR ANNUAL TARGETS IN FRONT OF YOU, AND YOU CAN SEE 51 IS THE TARGET FOR THIS PARTICULAR YEAR.

AND THEN CLEARLY SUPERIOR WOULD BE ONE POINT MORE THAN OUR FULLY SATISFACTORY, WHICH IS 52.

THOSE LAST THREE COLUMNS SHARE WITH YOU WHERE WE ACTUALLY SCORED.

SO ON GOAL ONE 23-24 OUR DOMAIN ONE INDEX WAS 43.

THE VALUE FOR THAT PARTICULAR INDEX IS ZERO BECAUSE WE DID NOT MEET SOMEWHAT SATISFACTORY, FULLY SATISFACTORY, OR CLEARLY SUPERIOR.

SO THE ACTUAL SCORE IS A ZERO.

SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE BOARD THROUGH HOW TO READ OR REACQUAINT YOU WITH READING THE RESULTS.

EACH GOAL, EACH GPM, EACH CONSTRAINT FOLLOWS THAT FORMAT.

AND SO PRESIDENT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE THE BOARD SOME TIME TO REVIEW THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO THAT.

OR IF YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE, BUT I DO WANT TO LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT EVERY MONTH WE DO REPORT ON GOALS AND GPMS. SO THIS INFORMATION IS NOT NEW OUTSIDE OF I WOULD SAY THE STAKEHOLDER INPUT.

IF YOU COULD JUST PRESENT.

YES. OKAY. SURE.

HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW. HIGH LEVEL.

YEP. SO IF WE LOOK AT GPM 1.1 THROUGH 1.3, YOU CAN SEE EACH ONE OF THOSE GPMS WAS AT SOMEWHAT SATISFACTORY.

AND SO WE DO HAVE ONE POINT FOR EACH OF THOSE GPMS. IF WE GO TO GOAL TWO AND THE GPMS THAT GOAL AND THOSE THREE GPMS WERE NOT MET.

SO, ZERO POINTS WERE RECEIVED IN THAT PARTICULAR CATEGORY.

IF WE GO TO GOAL THREE, THAT PARTICULAR.

GOAL WAS NOT MET.

3.1 GPM WAS MET AT SOMEWHAT SATISFACTORY, SO ONE POINT WAS RECEIVED AND 3.2.

WAS NOT ACHIEVED AS WELL AS 3.3.

IF WE GO TO GOAL FOUR, WE CAN SEE THAT GOAL FOUR WAS NOT ACHIEVED.

THERE ARE ZERO POINTS.

GPMS 4.1 THROUGH 4.3 WAS SOMEWHAT SATISFACTORY, SO ONE POINT FOR EACH OF THOSE GPMS. WHEN WE GO TO GOAL FIVE, WE CAN SEE THAT WE WERE CLEARLY SUPERIOR, SO NINE POINTS WERE ACHIEVED.

5.1 IS LOOKING AT TEXAS SUCCESS.

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INITIATIVE REQUIREMENTS.

AND YOU CAN SEE WE WERE AT 33.8 WHICH IS A ONE POINT VALUE WHICH IS FULLY SATISFACTORY.

5.2 IS LOOKING AT OUR CERTIFICATIONS AND WE'RE AT 59.3, WHICH IS CLEARLY SUPERIOR. 5.3 IS LOOKING AT LEVELS ONE AND TWO, CERTIFICATIONS OR CERTIFICATES, CLEARLY SUPERIOR.

AND WE RECEIVED 1.5 POINTS.

GPM 5.4 IS LOOKING AT OUR P-TECH AND EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, OUR GRADUATES.

AND THAT SCORE WAS 68.7, WHICH IS CLEARLY SUPERIOR.

THREE POINTS.

5.5 IS LOOKING AT COLLEGE ENROLLMENT.

THE SCORE IS 57.4, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT SATISFACTORY, AND THERE'S A HALF A POINT.

FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT IS AT CLEARLY SUPERIOR.

THERE'S 7.5 POINTS.

THEN IF WE GO TO THE CONSTRAINTS.

THE FIRST TWO CONSTRAINTS WERE ACTUALLY REPORTED ON AT THE BOARD BRIEFING FOR DECEMBER.

AND YOU CAN SEE FOR ELEMENTARY WE ARE AT FULLY SATISFACTORY.

SO WE RECEIVED ONE POINT THERE.

I'M SORRY, 1.5 POINTS FOR SECONDARY STUDENTS.

WE ARE AT FULLY SATISFACTORY AND ACTUALLY CLEARLY SUPERIOR.

SO THERE WAS 1.5.

BUT WHEN YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY THE TOTAL PERCENT, YOU HAVE 2.3 POINTS.

FOR OUR CULTURE, WE WERE AT CLEARLY SUPERIOR WHICH IS 4.5 POINTS.

GOING TO THEORY OF ACTION.

THE SCORE WAS 78.5 POINTS.

SO ZERO POINTS WERE ACHIEVED IN THAT PARTICULAR CATEGORY.

LOOKING AT THIS IS OUR EQUITY LOOKING AT THE GAP BETWEEN PROFICIENT ONE TEACHERS AT HIGH PRIORITY CAMPUSES VERSUS NON HIGH PRIORITY CAMPUSES. THERE WERE ZERO POINTS ACHIEVED.

IF WE GO DOWN LOOKING AT THE GAP IN RIGOROUS COURSES FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN AND EMERGENT BILINGUAL STUDENTS.

WE DID GET TO 6.6%, WHICH GAVE US A VALUE OF ONE.

AND THEN IN OUR FINANCIAL SOLVENCY BOTH THE MATERIAL WEAKNESSES AND SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES.

AND FIRST, WE WERE SUPERIOR AND FULLY SATISFACTORY.

YOU CAN SEE IN STAKEHOLDER SATISFACTION THERE WAS A TOTAL OF 13 POINTS THAT WERE EARNED.

AND THEN THE LAST CATEGORY IS WITH THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

AND THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES WILL RETIRE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

[4. CLOSED SESSION - The Board will retire to closed session pursuant to Texas Government Code Section 551 concerning the following sections:]

OKAY. OKAY.

TRUSTEES, BEFORE WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE WILL RETIRE TO THE CLOSED SESSION PORTION OF THIS AGENDA ITEM.

THE BOARD WILL RETIRE TO CLOSED SESSION THE PUBLIC AND STAFF ARE WELCOME TO STAY IN THIS ROOM OR STAY CONNECTED ONLINE.

MR. PRESIDENT, POINT OF INFORMATION.

YES. TRUSTEE FOREMAN.

WELL, WE HAVE COPIES OF THAT IN THE IN THE CLOSED SESSION EARLIER.

YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THE BOARD WILL NOW RETIRE TO CLOSED SESSION.

THE PUBLIC AND STAFF ARE WELCOME TO STAY IN THIS ROOM OR CONNECTED ONLINE WHILE THE BOARD LEAVES THE MEETING TO ATTEND THE CLOSED SESSION.

THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING WILL RESUME AFTER THE CLOSED SESSION.

THE BOARD WILL RETIRE TO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.

CONCERNING ANY AND ALL PURPOSES PERMITTED BY THE ACT, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE FOLLOWING.

SECTION FIVE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 551.071 FOR PRIVATE CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEYS ABOUT PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER.

SECTION 551.074 TO DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE, INCLUDING THE EVALUATION OF THE 2023-2024 PERFORMANCE OF THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS AND THE RESULTS OF THE SUPERINTENDENT'S CONTRACT AND INCENTIVE

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PLAN. SECTION 551.129 TO CONSULT WITH HIS ATTORNEYS BY USE OF TELEPHONE CONFERENCE, VIDEO CONFERENCE CALL OR COMMUNICATIONS OVER THE INTERNET IN AN OPEN MEETING AND OR CLOSED MEETING.

TRUSTEES, THE TIME IS NOW 4:57 P.M.

AND WE ARE IN CLOSED SESSION.

THE TIME IS 5:47 P.M.

AND WE ARE BACK IN OPEN SESSION.

THE BOARD TOOK NO ACTION IN CLOSED SESSION.

TRUSTEES, WE WILL RETURN TO ITEM 6.B TO APPROVE THE RESULTS OF THE 2023-2024, SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS EVALUATION INSTRUMENT AND THE 2023-2024 INCENTIVE PLAN.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT MET ONE OF THE FIVE INCENTIVE GOALS.

GOAL FIVE TRUSTEES.

IS THERE DISCUSSION? OKAY. TRUSTEES.

IF THERE ISN'T DISCUSSION, THE MOTION HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

WE WILL CAST YOUR VOTES VIA HAND.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY. AND THEN ALL THOSE OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? OKAY. WHAT IS THE.

THE MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

OKAY. TRUSTEES, YOU JUST ADOPTED THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESULTS OF 2023-2024.

SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS EVALUATION INSTRUMENT AND THE 2023-2024 INCENTIVE PLAN.

TRUSTEES. OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 6.B RIGHT 6.A CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS 2024-2025 EVALUATION INSTRUMENT AND THE 2024-2025 INCENTIVE PLAN.

[5. Discussion Item]

THIS DISCUSSION ITEM 5.A WILL BE INCORPORATED WITH THE DISCUSSION ITEM 5.A WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THIS MOTION.

DOCTOR. TRUSTEE MACKEY.

DID YOU WANT TO LEAD THIS AS THE CHAIR OF THE AD HOC? YES. HAPPY TO.

THANK YOU. SO LAST WEEK OR EARLIER THIS WEEK OR WAS IT? OKAY. OKAY.

ONE SECOND. TRUSTEES.

TRUSTEES, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE SUPERINTENDENT SCHOOL'S 2024-2025 EVALUATION INSTRUMENT TARGETS IN 2024-2025 INCENTIVE PLAN.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

DISCUSSION. TRUSTEE MACKEY, PLEASE.

SO JUST AS AN UPDATE FROM THE COMMITTEE WHEN WE LAST MET THE COMMITTEE.

AND THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES, TRUSTEE TURNER, TRUSTEE WEINBERG, TRUSTEE WHITE AND TRUSTEE CURRY FOR ALL MAKING IT A POINT TO BE THERE.

WE LOOKED AT BECAUSE WE NEED TO APPROVE A SUPERINTENDENT EVALUATION INSTRUMENT FOR THIS SCHOOL YEAR, 24-25, WHICH WILL CONCLUDE IN MAY AND JUNE.

AND THEN WE ALWAYS DO THE EVALUATION SIX MONTHS LATER ONCE THE DATA COMES IN.

AND SO THIS NOTE, THIS WILL BE THE LAST EVALUATION ON THIS SET OF GOALS AND CONSTRAINTS, WHICH MAKE UP 82% OF OUR EVALUATION.

SO THE COMMITTEE HAD A PRETTY ROBUST DISCUSSION LOOKING AT AND THIS BOARD HAD MADE AN INTENTIONAL DECISION BACK IN 2020, TO NOT ADJUST ANY OF THE GOALS DESPITE COVID.

AND WE'VE CONTINUED TO DO THAT FOR QUITE A BIT OF TIME.

BUT WHEN THE COMMITTEE MET THIS LAST TIME AND LOOKED AT THE TARGETS FOR THIS YEAR, THAT WAS EVEN THOUGH WE'VE MADE SUBSTANTIAL GROWTH AND CONTINUE TO MAKE GROWTH IN EACH OF THE AREAS BACK FROM PRE-PANDEMIC OR FROM PANDEMIC LOWS, THE GAP BETWEEN WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT AND WHAT THE TARGET WAS BEFORE THE PANDEMIC WAS EVER KNOWN WAS SUBSTANTIAL.

AND SO IT WAS RESULTING IN WHAT LOOKED LIKE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SMART GOALS, THE ATTAINABILITY NOT BEING THERE.

GROWTH RATES THAT ARE RARELY EVER SEEN AND ESPECIALLY NOT SEEN AT A STATE LEVEL.

AND SO THERE WAS A ROBUST CONVERSATION AROUND WHAT WOULD BE CHALLENGING THIS YEAR, IN THE LAST YEAR, OF THE GOALS FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE SYSTEM TO ACHIEVE IN TERMS OF GROWTH IN EACH OF OUR AREAS.

AND SO WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

HENCE WHY YOU WILL SEE TARGETS IN FULLY SATISFACTORY THAT ARE AT LEAST TWO POINTS HIGHER THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

AND ALL ESSENTIALLY MOST ALL INSTANCES WHICH FAR OUTSTRIPS STATE GROWTH IN THOSE AND CLEARLY SUPERIOR ABOVE THAT.

AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD AROUND THE ATTAINABILITY.

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BUT WE FEEL THIS IS IN THE LAST YEAR OF THESE GOALS, A REALLY MEANINGFUL AND RIGOROUS SETUP IN TERMS OF THE GOALS AND THE CONSTRAINTS WHICH PUSH OUR DISTRICT TO ACTUALLY GROW SUBSTANTIALLY FASTER THAN THE STATE.

IN THE LAST YEAR OF THESE GOALS.

NOW, THE LAST THING I WILL NOTE HERE IS THIS IS THE LAST YEAR WITH THESE GOALS, BOARD MET ON MONDAY TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF DISCUSSING NEW GOALS AND CONSTRAINTS.

BASED ON THAT, AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, THE BOARD WILL SET NEW TARGETS AND NEW ANNUAL TARGETS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE NEXT FIVE YEARS FOR THOSE GOALS AND CONSTRAINTS.

THOSE WILL THEN BECOME WHAT THESE POPULATIONS.

SO THESE WILL ALL CHANGE ONCE WE FINALIZE WHAT THOSE ARE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO SET THE STAGE FOR THE COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEE CURRY.

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.

SO I ATTENDED THE COMMITTEE AND MADE THESE POINTS LAST WEEK, AND I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THE COMMITTEE LETTING ME COME SINCE I'M NOT AN OFFICIAL MEMBER.

BUT I ADVOCATED AND I ADVOCATE TODAY FOR THE ADJUSTMENT THAT WE WERE MAKING FOR IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE EVALUATION, IT'S THE COLUMN F'S PRIMARILY, AND THEN CS, WHICH IS ONE POINT ABOVE IT.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THE OLD NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT'S WHAT OUR GOALS ARE FOR.

ACTUALLY, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT IT WAS BECAUSE IT'S WHAT THE STATED GOAL IS FOR GOAL ONE.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT GOAL, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO 58 BY JUNE 2025.

AND SO THAT WAS WHAT WAS IN COLUMN F'S FOR GOAL ONE.

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVELY A 15 POINT JUMP IN ONE YEAR WHICH IS JUST NOT ATTAINABLE.

AND I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THE PRIOR BOARD AND THE CHALLENGES THEY HAD IN LOOKING AT THESE GOALS.

BUT WE ARE IN A VERY DIFFERENT REALITY THAN WE WERE IN IN 2019 WHEN THESE GOALS WERE CREATED.

WE HAVE GONE THROUGH, YOU KNOW, A VERY DISRUPTIVE EVENT IN COVID.

I KNOW THE PUBLIC AND I'M TIRED OF TALKING ABOUT COVID.

I WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT COVID.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE DATA SHOWS VERY CLEARLY THAT IT CONTINUES TO HAVE A LASTING IMPACT.

AND WE AS THIS BOARD, PRIOR TO ME BEING HERE, RECOGNIZED THAT THERE WAS SOME NEED FOR ADJUSTMENT AND ADJUSTED THE TARGETS WITHIN YEARS, BUT IT NEVER ADJUSTED THE FINAL NUMBER. AND THAT THEN LED TO A SCENARIO WHERE OUR SUPERINTENDENT WOULD ONLY BE CONSIDERED DOING A FULLY SATISFACTORY JOB IF SHE ACHIEVED A LEVEL OF GROWTH THAT IS JUST SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE.

15 POINTS IN ONE YEAR.

AND, YOU KNOW, SO I ADVOCATED THEN AND I ADVOCATE AGAIN TODAY TO AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDING THIS TO BRING THESE DOWN TO A NUMBER THAT IS CHALLENGING AND THAT DOES PUSH US TO GO AND GROW BEYOND.

I BELIEVE ULTIMATELY WHAT IT WOULD BE IS A TWO-POINT GROWTH RATE, WHICH IS FASTER THAN WHAT THE STATE'S GROWTH RATE IN EVERY ONE OF THESE CATEGORIES IS.

BUT I THINK THAT'S SIMPLY WHAT IS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO BETTER REFLECT WHAT REALITY IS, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE AN HONEST CONVERSATION WITH THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT REAL EXPECTATIONS OUGHT TO BE. YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY I PERSONALLY AND I SAID IT LAST WEEK, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

I DO THINK THIS IS A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION WHEN YOU'RE EFFECTIVELY SAYING WE SHOULD BE CHANGING THE BENCHMARKS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO.

YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT TO THE PUBLIC AND YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHY THAT IS.

BUT I EITHER THINK WE HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT CONVERSATION NOW AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE REALITY THAT WE ARE IN, OR WE HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT CONVERSATION NEXT YEAR WHEN OUR SUPERINTENDENT FAILS TO MEET GOALS THAT WE KNOW TODAY SHE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MEET.

AND, AND WE'RE HAVING TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC WHY WE ARE, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING TO SUPPORT A SUPERINTENDENT WHO IS SO FAR OFF TRACK.

AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TODAY.

I APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE AGREEING TO THAT.

I DID ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO WHAT NUMBERS AND THEY CAME BACK WITH THESE NUMBERS AND I'LL DEFER TO THE ADMINISTRATION IF THEY WOULD LIKE.

I DON'T KNOW, DOCTOR, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK OR DR.

LEAR ABOUT WHY YOU CAME BACK IN THE MIDST OF THAT QUESTION TO THESE PARTICULAR NUMBERS.

BUT OVERALL, THE I JUST THINK WE SHOULD BE BEING HONEST WITH OURSELVES AND HONEST WITH THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT OUR REAL GOOD METRICS FOR NEXT YEAR.

RATHER THAN PUTTING OUT SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW IS NOT ATTAINABLE.

SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

TRUSTEE FOREMAN. JUST A PROCESS QUESTION.

BEN, HAVE YOU SHARED WITH THE BOARD THE CHANGES THAT YOU ARE ANTICIPATING? BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THAT.

NO. THE COPY IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE AGENDA ITEM, I'M NOT ABLE TO PULL IT UP.

SO IF YOU GO TO 60, DO WE HAVE A HARD COPY? I HAVE ONE. AND THEN WHAT WE CHANGED WAS IT SAYS 58.

I'LL SAY THIS OUT LOUD.

WHAT I HAVE, WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, IS US COMING TO THE TABLE AND NOT SHARING THE INFORMATION IN ADVANCE.

THAT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO MAKE A QUICK DECISION.

AND THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE SHOULD BE DOING BUSINESS.

WE SHOULD.

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I GOT IT. WE SHOULD SHARE.

THANK YOU. SUPERINTENDENT.

WE SHOULD SHARE THE INFORMATION IN ADVANCE SO THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GO OVER AND LOOK AT IT, BECAUSE WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

BUT I CAN'T EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.

NOTHING, BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION IN ADVANCE TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THIS SITUATION.

AND I WOULD HAVE RATHER, I HATE I MISSED THAT MEETING, BUT I WOULD HAVE RATHER HAVE HAD A DOCUMENT SO THAT I COULD GO OVER IT.

AND I'LL JUST SAY FROM THE COMMITTEE CHAIR PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S NOTED AND IT MAKES SENSE.

WE'LL MAKE SURE I THINK IN THE FUTURE, IF WE DEVIATE FROM POLICY, IT WILL BE MY RECOMMENDATION WHETHER OR NOT I'M ON OR CHAIR THE COMMITTEE IN THE FUTURE, THAT WE IF WE DO MAKE DEVIATIONS, THAT IT BE SENT OUT AT LEAST A NOTE, EVEN IF THE DOCUMENT ISN'T READY IMMEDIATELY.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THAT SHOULD BE NOTED FOR ANY KIND OF BUSINESS THAT WE DO.

THAT IS THE ACCURATE WAY TO DO BUSINESS, SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST WEIGH IN ON WHAT IS BEING SAID.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEES.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, TRUSTEES, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE WILL CAST OUR VOTES AGAIN BY SHOW OF HANDS.

TRUSTEES. ALL IN FAVOR OF PROVING THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS 2024-2025 EVALUATION INSTRUMENT TARGETS IN 2024-25 INCENTIVE PLAN.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY. AND ALL OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? ANY ABSTENTIONS.

RAISE YOUR HAND. MOTION PASSES 6 TO 1.

SIX VOTING YES.

ONE ABSTENTION.

OKAY, TRUSTEES, YOU HAVE JUST ADOPTED THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS 2024 2025 EVALUATION INSTRUMENT TARGETS IN THE 2024 2025 INCENTIVE PLAN.

TRUSTEES, THE TIME IS 5:59 P.M.

AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

THERE WILL BE ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE RECESS BEFORE WE START THE NEXT MEETING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.