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>> [MUSIC] THE TIME IS 4:34 PM.
[1. Notice and Return]
WE HAVE A QUORUM, AND THIS MEETING HAS BEEN DULY POSTED.GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THE SUPERINTENDENTS EVALUATION AD HOC COMMITTEE MEETING OF THE DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
PLEASE STAND US FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND A SALUTE TO TEXAS FLAG.
>> THE FOLLOWING COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE EITHER PHYSICALLY PRESENT OR PARTICIPATING SIMULTANEOUSLY BY VIDEO CONFERENCE.
A QUORUM OF THE SUPERINTENDENT'S EVALUATION ADHOC COMMITTEE IS PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT THIS LOCATION.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE FOLLOWING COMMITTEE MEMBERS, TRUSTEE SARAH WEINBERG AND TRUSTEE ED TURNER.
OUR SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS, DR. STEPHANIE ELZALDE JOINS US.
I AM BEN MACKE, COMMITTEE CHAIR.
WE ALSO ARE JOINED BY TRUSTEE CAMEL WHITE, TRUSTEE JOYCE FORMAN, AND DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE? TRUSTEE DAN MITCH KAY.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS, I BELIEVE, IS THAT CORRECT? WE DO NOT HAVE NEED FOR A CLOSED SESSION,
[4. Discussion Items]
SO WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ON OVER TO DISCUSSION ITEM 4.01, AS FAR AS THIS EVOLVES THE GOAL AND CONSTRAINT RESETTING PROCESS.JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER, TRUSTEES, WE MET TWO WEEKS AGO NOW, AND STARTED TO PUT SOME FLESH ON THE BONES OF WHAT A COMMUNITY LISTENING PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT THIS GOAL AND CONSTRAINT RESETTING PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
WE BROUGHT IT TO THE BOARD AT THE BOARD BRIEFING THIS PAST WEEK TO GET SOME FEEDBACK.
THESE WERE SOME OF THE THINGS, AND THESE ARE EXACTLY WHAT WE SHARED LAST WEEK AT THE BOARD BRIEFING ABOUT WHAT CAME UP DURING OUR DISCUSSION AROUND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE AS PART OF THIS PROCESS.
FIRST OF ALL, HOW TO PROVIDE CONTEXT, ABOUT THE CURRENT GOALS, CONSTRAINTS, INCLUDING WHAT THEY ARE, WHAT THE PROGRESS HAS BEEN, WHAT THE STRUGGLES ARE, HOW IT IMPACTS OUR WORK.
THAT WE'RE THERE TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY, NOT TO SHARE OUR THOUGHTS.
THIS IS THE TIME FOR OUR COMMUNITY LISTENING.
MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN ALSO PROVIDE WRITTEN FEEDBACK IN ADDITION TO PARTICIPATING IN PERSON, INCLUDE AT LEAST ONE MEETING PER DISTRICT IN PERSON AND ONE VIRTUAL MEETING.
CONSIDER GEOGRAPHIC DISTANCE AND TRAVEL TIME TO ENSURE PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS, HAVE A CONSISTENT SET OF QUESTIONS TO ASK, TO MAKE SURE COMMUNITIES ARE ENGAGED CONSISTENTLY, HAVE STAFF PRESENT TO HELP ANSWER ANY ADMINISTRATIVE QUESTIONS THAT ARISE AND HELP KEEP CONSISTENCY, ENSURE THAT TWO TRUSTEES CO-HOST EACH MEETING, ENGAGE GROUPS OF STAKEHOLDERS, BUT NOT ALLOW ANY INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS TO HAVE AN OUTSIZE INFLUENCE, AND THE GROUPS OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED, NOT YESTERDAY, BUT BACK ON WHEN WE MET, STUDENTS, TEACHERS, NON-TEACHING STAFF, COMMUNITY NONPROFITS, BUSINESS GROUPS, AND TEACHER AND ADMINISTRATOR ORGS.
WITH THAT, I WANT TO OPEN IT UP.
HAS ANYONE HAD ANY FURTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS ABOUT WHAT SHOULD BE TRUE OF A COMMUNITY LISTENING PROCESS, WANT TO ADD ANY CLARIFICATIONS ON THIS OR HAVE ANY GENERAL FEEDBACK ON THIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO DECIDE THIS? NOTHING'S GOING TO BE FINALIZED TODAY.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BRING EVERYTHING TO THE BOARD AND GET FEEDBACK FROM THE FULL BOARD, BUT, JUST WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO ANY COMMITTEE MEMBERS OR THOSE ONLINE.
PLEASE JUST CHIME IN. I CAN'T REALLY SEE YOUR HANDS, IF YOU'VE GOT ANYTHING TO ADD ON THIS. TRUSTEE WEINBERG.
>> TRUSTEE MITCH KAY NEXT. SORRY.
>> QUICK STAKEHOLDER TO ADD PARENTS.
>> PARENTS. ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION.
PARENTS DEFINITELY HAVE A ROLE IN THIS.
I THINK IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THESE GROUPS, IT'S BECAUSE THERE ARE ACTUAL ORGANIZATIONS OF THESE GROUPS, PARTICULAR NONPROFITS, OR CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE, OR NEA, AFT, OR WHATNOT.
ARE THERE PARTICULAR PARENT GROUPS YOU'RE REFERRING TO, OR WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PARENTS COME OUT IN COMMUNITY MEETINGS?
>> I WAS THINKING MORE IN CONTEXT OF JUST NAMING STAKEHOLDERS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE LISTED AS STAKEHOLDERS.
>> MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE EXPLICITLY REFLECTED?
>> THAT'S PLANNED. THAT MAKES SENSE.
>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO DEFINE WHAT WE MEAN BY GOALS AND WHAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS TO BE GOALS, AND I THINK WE ALL WANT 100% OF OUR KIDS TO SUCCEED ON 100% OF THE TESTS.
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IN THE PUBLIC, THAT IS WHAT THEY THINK OF AS A GOAL.WHAT WE HAVE ARE OUR SMART GOALS, WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE MAKE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS TOWARDS ULTIMATELY REACHING THIS IDEAL END.
I THINK THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THE PUBLIC MISUNDERSTANDS A GOAL OF OURS TO GET FROM 45% PROFICIENCY IN ONE OF THE SUBJECT AREAS TO 60% PROFICIENCY THAT WE'RE SATISFIED IF WE GET TO 60%.
WHY SHOULD WE BE SATISFIED AT 60%? WE SHOULD BE AIMING FOR 100%, AND ONLY BE SATISFIED WHEN WE'RE AT 100%.
I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF SMART GOALS, AND I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE WHEN WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN THE EXISTING GOALS AND WHAT THE ULTIMATE NEW GOALS ARE, THAT PERHAPS WE SHOULD PHRASE THEM AS FIVE-YEAR GOALS.
THE GOALS SHOULD, IN SOME SENSE, ALWAYS BE 100%.
BUT THE FIVE-YEAR GOALS NEED TO BE THE REALISTIC, ATTAINABLE GOALS THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE, AND THAT WE THINK WE CAN ACHIEVE IN FIVE YEARS.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE A SEMANTICAL DEBATE ABOUT WHY THE GOAL IS NOT 100% ALL THE TIME, ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.
I'D JUST LIKE TO GIVE US SOME THOUGHT TO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THAT WE ARE GOING TO END UP WITH STRETCH FIVE-YEAR GOALS THAT ARE REALISTIC, BUT THAT OUR ABSOLUTE INTENT AND ULTIMATE OBJECT IS TO HAVE 100% OF OUR KIDS MEETING ALL OF THE STANDARDS.
IF YOU COULD JUST THINK ABOUT THAT AS TO HOW WE HAVE TO COMMUNICATE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE LAST YEAR AND THE FIVE-YEAR GOAL IS, AND THE IDEAL THAT I THINK THE PUBLIC EXPECTS. THANKS.
>> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE MITCH KAY.
THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.
THERE'S THE SMART GOALS, AND THEN THERE IS WHAT WE WANT FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR KIDS ALL THE TIME.
THINKING ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF HOW WE COMMUNICATE IN THE COMMUNITY LISTENING, BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS IMPORTANT.
I'VE MADE A BUNCH OF NOTES AROUND THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TOO FOR THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT GOALS WE HAD PREVIOUSLY.
THE ONES THAT WE MADE AND THE ONES WE DID NOT MAKE.
THERE'S A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THAT, WE'RE NOT MAKING ALL OF OUR GOALS, AND THEN WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO TRY TO GET THERE.
BUT I WANT THE COMMUNITY TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND NOT PAINT A PICTURE THAT'S A ROSY PICTURE, BUT IT'S NOT ROSY.
WE NEED TO HAVE OUR PREVIOUS GOALS, AND HOW WE DID ON THOSE PREVIOUS GOALS, AND THEN WE HAVE TO SET GOALS FROM THOSE PREVIOUS GOALS FORWARD, NOT GOING BACKWARDS, BUT WE HAVE TO SET GOALS FORWARD. THANK YOU.
>> THAT MAKES SENSE. I'M MAKING THAT NOTE.
I'VE TRIED TO GET THAT IN THE FIRST BULLET POINT HERE, BUT I AM GOING TO UPDATE THAT TO REFLECT THAT, NOT ONLY IS IT THE GOALS AND CONSTRAINTS, BUT ALSO THE ABSOLUTE PROGRESS THAT WE HAVE ACHIEVED OR NOT ACHIEVED FOR EACH OF THOSE, SO PEOPLE HAVE THAT CLEAR PICTURE.
>> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE FORMAN, AND WE HAD THESE PRINTED OUT FOR YOU HERE. [LAUGHTER]
[OVERLAPPING] THE LISA SHE CAN SEND THEM TO ME.
>> WE'VE HAD TRUSTEE LANCE CURRY JOIN US AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, FEEDBACK, OR ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS THAT HAVE COME UP AROUND, WHAT COMMUNITY LISTENING NEEDS TO ENTAIL? ANYONE ELSE FOR FIRST ROUND? NOT THAT WE HAVE ROUNDS HERE. TRUSTEE WEINBERG.
NO. SUPERINTENDENT, FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN AT ANY POINT, IF YOU'VE GOT OTHERS TO ADD.
[NOISE] WE WILL THEN MOVE IN TO 4.02.
I'VE PUT SOME STARTING POINTS HERE, BUT NO AUTHORS PRIDE.
WE CAN CHANGE ANYTHING WE WANT ABOUT THIS. I'VE STARTED HERE.
THIS IS THE SAME GRAPHIC THAT WE SHARED AT THE BOARD BRIEFING.
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NOTHING HAS CHANGED ABOUT THE GRAPHIC, BASICALLY SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO FINALIZE WHAT THIS PROCESS LOOKS LIKE BY MID SEPTEMBER, DO THE COMMUNITY LISTENING PROCESS FROM MID SEPTEMBER THROUGH EARLY NOVEMBER, AND THEN WE'D HAVE SOME TIME TO SUMMARIZE THE FEEDBACK AND THEN DO A BOARD WORKSHOP AROUND THESE GOALS AND CONSTRAINTS BASED ON EVERYTHING WE'VE HEARD.I'VE TRIED TO SLIGHTLY BULLET POINT OUT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AS PART OF THIS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, AND I'VE ADDED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE FOR US TO DISCUSS.
I'LL JUST GO OVER ALL OF THEM AND THEN WE CAN TAKE QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS OR FEEDBACK ON ALL OF THEM.
FIRST OF ALL, EVERYONE AGREED THAT WE NEEDED COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH ORGANIZATIONS TO MAKE SURE IT WITH GROUPS AND NOT INDIVIDUAL GROUPS.
THE ONES THAT WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE THAT WE COULD MEET WITH, STUDENTS, TEACHERS, STAFF, NONPROFIT, BUSINESS ORGS, AND LABOR ORGS, I'VE HEARD TRUSTEE WEINBERG'S FEEDBACK, THEY'RE MAKING SURE PARENTS RECOGNIZE THAT THEIR VOICE NEEDS TO BE IN THIS PROCESS.
BUT ESPECIALLY FOR THE GROUPS THAT THERE ARE ACTUAL ORGANIZATIONS AROUND.
THE FIRST QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE SOLICIT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT GROUPS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, KNOW ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY? I'M SURE WE ALL KNOW A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT GROUPS IN EACH OF THESE OR SOME THAT WE ALL KNOW, NEA AND AFT, ABSOLUTELY FOR THE LABOR ORGS. I THINK WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THOSE.
BUT FOR SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES, WE MIGHT NOT KNOW.
HOW DO WE GET THOSE NAMES OF GROUPS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE TO INVITE? THEN ALSO, SHOULD WE OPEN IT UP WIDELY? SHOULD WE SHARE THAT, "HEY, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE NONPROFIT MEETING?" IF YOU'RE A NONPROFIT, YOU DIDN'T GET AN EXPLICIT INVITE, WE INVITE YOU TO COME JOIN US AS WELL.
THEN THERE WAS THE VIRTUAL MEETINGS.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T PHYSICALLY SHOW UP AT A PLACE TO STILL BE ABLE TO LIFT THEIR VOICE UP VIRTUALLY.
TRUSTEE FORMAN, I THINK YOU RAISED THIS POINT ORIGINALLY AROUND AT LEAST ONE TRUSTEE MEETING IN EACH DISTRICT AND ONE VIRTUAL MEETING.
I COULDN'T REMEMBER IF YOU WERE ASKING FOR A VIRTUAL MEETING FOR EVERY DISTRICT OR JUST A CERTAIN NUMBER OF VIRTUAL MEETINGS.
THE REAL QUESTION HERE IS, HOW MANY VIRTUAL MEETINGS WOULD WE NEED OR WANT SINCE IT WILL BE VIRTUAL?
>> MY CAMERA IS NOT ON, BUT LET ME JUST SAY I MENTIONED VIRTUAL MEETINGS BECAUSE THEY WORK WELL IN MY DISTRICT.
OUR TRUSTEES MIGHT NOT HAVE THE SAME SITUATION.
I WANTED AN IN PERSON AND A VIRTUAL IN MY AREA.
>> GOT YOU. I HAVE BEEN REMINDED BY OUR BOARD COUNCIL THAT IF TRUSTEES SPEAK, THEY MUST BE ON CAMERA.
>> THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE HEARING.
>> I'LL MAKE THAT NOTE. VIRTUAL MEETINGS, POTENTIALLY FOR EACH DISTRICT, THOUGH, WE WOULD MAKE SURE I WOULD ASSUME AND MAYBE WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS QUESTION.
ON THE HOSTED COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WE TALKED ABOUT AT LEAST ONE IN EACH DISTRICT, AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE TWO DEPENDING ON GEOGRAPHIC SCOPE IF THE DISTRICT IS ENORMOUS AND HAS A LOT OF SPACE TO DRIVE.
QUESTIONS HERE ARE, SHOULD WE GET TRUSTEES TO PROVIDE INPUT? ON WHAT LOCATIONS THEY THINK WOULD BE BEST IN THE DATES? THEN, HOW DO WE REVIEW? DO WE ASK ADMINISTRATION OR SOMEONE TO REVIEW TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY BIG MISSING GEOGRAPHIC AREAS BASED ON THAT AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS? THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GOING TO AIM TO HAVE TWO TRUSTEES AT ALL MEETINGS, WOULD ALL TRUSTEES WANT TO BE SURE TO BE ONE OF THE TWO PEOPLE IN THEIR OWN DISTRICT MEETINGS, OR WOULD THEY WANT TO GO TO OTHER ONES THAT ARE OKAY WITH TWO OTHER TRUSTEES HOLDING THAT CONVERSATION? THAT'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF QUESTIONS TO TALK ABOUT AS WE THINK ABOUT IT, I WOULD LOVE TO OPEN IT UP FOR ANYONE TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THOSE THINGS AND SHARE WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS WOULD BE.
>> YES. CAN WE PROVIDE A LIST OF WHEN IT COMES TO PARENT ORGS, MAYBE PROVIDE YOU WITH A LIST OF ORGANIZATION THAT WE RECOMMEND Y'ALL TO REACH OUT TO. WOULD THAT WORK?
>> I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION HERE.
OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WITH OPEN MEETINGS, BUT WE COULD ASK.
WE COULD CREATE SOME TEMPLATE THAT BOARD SERVICES CAN SEND OUT TO EVERY TRUSTEE, AND EVERY TRUSTEE SAYS, "HEY, HERE ARE THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT NEED TO BE INVITED TO THESE," AND THEN WE COULD PUT THOSE ALL TOGETHER AND SEND OUT INVITES TO ALL OF THOSE ORGS.
I WOULD IMAGINE US BEING ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> ASKING TRUSTEES TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE NAMES.
THANK YOU, TRUSTEE TURNER. ANYTHING ELSE?
>> WE'LL GO TRUSTEE WHITE, THEN TRUSTEE MITCH KAY.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM SUGGESTING THAT WE CAN DO VIRTUAL MEETINGS. I WOULD LOVE THAT.
FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE POST THE LINK SOMEWHERE THAT THE PUBLIC CAN EASILY ACCESS WHAT I HAPPEN TO GO THROUGH LAYERS AND LAYERS OF OUR WEBSITE.
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ALSO, DUE TO THE MAGNITUDE OF THE SIDES OF SOME OF OUR DISTRICTS, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE, BUT IN MY DISTRICT, I NEED TWO MEETINGS.>> PERIOD. AS FAR AS ME ATTENDING ANOTHER TRUSTEES MEETING, IF IT'S NOT ON THAT DATE, I MEAN, HOPEFULLY, OUR MEETINGS ARE NOT OVERLAPPING, BUT IF THEY ARE OVERLAPPING, THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.
BECAUSE IT ALMOST SOUNDED LIKE WHEN YOU FIRST MENTIONED IT, YOU WANTED US TO HAVE ONE IN OUR MEETING, HAVE ANOTHER TRUSTEE THERE, HAVE A SECOND MEETING, AND VICE VERSA.
IN ALL DUE HONESTY, THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING TO FOUR MEETINGS PROBABLY WITHIN THAT MONTH.
I JUST REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE TO ATTEND TWO MEETINGS IN MY DISTRICT.
>> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE WHITE. TRUSTEE MITCHE.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WOULD PREFER TO ATTEND ONE ATTEND THE MEETINGS THAT ARE IN MY DISTRICT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD FOR ALL OF THE MEETINGS THAT ARE IN A TRUSTEE DISTRICT BE ATTENDED BY THE TRUSTEE THAT REPRESENTS THAT DISTRICT.
I GUESS THERE COULD BE OTHER ARGUMENTS AS TO WHY YOU WOULD GO THE OTHER WAY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE AT THE MEETINGS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE HELD IN MY DISTRICT.
>> THAT MAKES SENSE. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHERE MOST PEOPLE ARE.
HAVING AT LEAST THE TWO IN YOUR DISTRICT, ONE TO TWO IN EACH DISTRICT THAT THE TRUSTEE WHO IS THERE ATTENDS, PLUS ANOTHER TRUSTEE TO ALSO HEAR FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES, NOT OUR OWN.
THAT MAKES SENSE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHERE EVERYONE IS LANDING SO FAR. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE MITCHE.
WE'LL CONTINUE WITH FIRST ROUND.
WE'LL GO TO TRUSTEE CURRY, AND THEN TRUSTEE FORMAN WE'LL COME BACK TO TURNER FOR A SECOND ROUND. TRUSTEE CURRY.
>> I'M JUST GOING TO GO DOWN YOUR QUESTIONS AND ORDER AND GIVE YOU MY FEEDBACK.
I AGREE WE SHOULD OFFER NAMES.
I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION SHOULD ALSO SUGGEST NAMES.
I THINK THIS SHOULD BE A FAIRLY OPEN PROCESS.
I THINK IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT TO POLICE KEEPING SOMEONE NOT THERE ANYWAY.
LET'S JUST EMBRACE THAT AND INVITE PEOPLE TO COME.
OBVIOUSLY, MODERATION OF THESE MEETINGS WILL BE IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE EFFICIENT AND WE STAY ON TASK.
BUT I WOULD JUST LEAN INTO THE OPENNESS OF IT.
I WOULD CERTAINLY ELICIT THE ADMINISTRATION'S INPUT AS WELL AS TO WHO SHOULD COME TO THOSE TYPES OF MEETINGS.
IN TERMS OF VIRTUAL MEETINGS, I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE ONE COMMITTEE MEETING IN PERSON IN MY AREA AND THEN ONE VIRTUAL MEETING.
I COULD BE TALKED INTO TWO IN PERSON, BUT I THINK I CAN GET AWAY WITH ONE GIVEN WHERE THE TWO HIGH SCHOOLS ARE THAT ARE IN MY AREA.
BUT I DO THINK A VIRTUAL MEETING IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE ARE JUST SOME PEOPLE THAT'S MUCH EASIER TO ATTEND THAN OTHERWISE.
I JUST THINK THAT SHOULD BE A COLLABORATIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE TO PUT THE LOCATIONS.
IN MY MIND, IT OUGHT TO BE ONE OF THE TWO HIGH SCHOOLS IN MY AREA.
BUT I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO TALK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT WHAT THEY THINK IS BEST AND EASIEST IN TERMS OF LOGISTICS.
THEN I WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND THE ONES IN MY DISTRICT, AND I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO GO TO OTHERS IF I'M USEFUL AS WELL JUST TO HAVE A DIFFERENT SET OF EARS LISTEN IN.
>>THANK YOU SO MUCH, TRUSTEE CURRY.
DO I SEE ANYONE ELSE ONLINE? TRUSTEE WHITE, AND THEN, TRUSTEE TURNER, IF YOU'VE STILL GOT SOMETHING WILL COME TO YOU NEXT.
>> I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO HAVE THE IN PERSON MEETING TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO JOIN VIRTUALLY TO THAT MEETING VERSUS JUST HAVING A SEPARATE VIRTUAL ALL VIRTUAL MEETING.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY I WOULD LIKE TO DO MY TWO MEETINGS.
IT JUST SEEMS TO ME IT MAKES BETTER SENSE THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO.
IF THEY CAN'T MAKE THE FIRST MEETING, THEY CAN JUMP IN ON THE SECOND MEETING, AND THAT MEANS I DON'T HAVE TO DO, EVEN THOUGH IT'S VIRTUAL AND I'M NOT HAVING TO GET OUT.
IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT THEY BE A PART OF THAT MEETING BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS AND WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS,
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YOU'RE LEARNING FROM QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED BY SOMEONE ELSE OR YOU MAY THINK OF SOMETHING THAT YOU DID NOT ASK THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO ASK BECAUSE SOMEONE MENTIONED IT. THANK YOU.>>THANK YOU. WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT IF THAT'S FEASIBLE. TRUSTEE TURNER.
>> I AGREE WITH TRUSTEE WHITE.
SOME TYPE OF HYBRID MEETING WILL WORK.
AND MY DISTRICT IS FAIRLY LARGE LAND WISE.
IF TRUSTEE WHITE IS OPEN TO IT, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A MEETING WITH HER BECAUSE OUR DISTRICTS CROSS.
I MEAN, THEY BORDER EACH OTHER, ESPECIALLY A LOT OF THE PLEASANT GROVE AREA, AND THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF KNOCK OUT MY AREA AND PART OF HER AREA AT THE SAME TIME.
IF SHE'S OPEN TO DOING THAT, I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH HER IN THAT ASPECT.
I HAVE A COUPLE THOUGHTS ON THIS.
A LOT OF THIS MAKES A TON OF SENSE.
I'VE TAKEN A LOT OF NOTES HERE THAT WILL PUT INTO WRITTEN FORM.
ONE THING I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY THAT THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO TRUSTEES IN EVERY MEETING, BECAUSE WHEN WE SET GOALS, WE'RE NOT SETTING GOALS FOR OUR INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS, WE'RE SETTING GOALS FOR THE ENTIRETY OF DALLAS ISD, AND IT BEHOOVES ALL OF US, YES TO BE IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY MEETINGS BECAUSE WE KNOW THE COMMUNITY, ET CETERA.
BUT ALSO TO HEAR WHAT OTHER ASPECTS OF OUR DALLAS COMMUNITY ARE SAYING, BECAUSE WE ULTIMATELY SET GOALS FOR THE ENTIRE DISTRICT, NOT DISTRICT SEVEN.
I THINK THE COLLABORATION IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL.
I PERSONALLY WOULD VERY MUCH ENJOY BEING WITH ANY OF YOU ALL IN YOUR DISTRICTS HEARING FROM FOLKS THAT ARE SPEAKING TO WHAT THEY'RE HOPING TO SEE, BECAUSE, AGAIN, WHILE, I MIGHT BE ELECTED FOR DISTRICT 7.
IT IS LEGALLY NOT MY ROLE TO REPRESENT DISTRICT 7.
IT IS MY ROLE TO REPRESENT THE BEST INTERESTS OF ALL THE STUDENTS IN DALLAS ISD.
I HOPE WE KEEP THAT IN MIND, AND WE COULD DEFINITELY PUT AS MANY MEETINGS AS WE WANT.
WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM ALL OF THIS, WE WILL SEND OUT TO TRUSTEES VIA BOARD SERVICES TO SAY, HEY, WOULD YOU LIKE ONE OR TWO MEETINGS? IF YOU WERE TO CHOOSE YOUR LOCATIONS, WHAT WOULD THEY BE? DO YOU WANT A VIRTUAL MEETING? WE CAN LET TRUSTEES INDIVIDUALLY, THEY KNOW THEIR COMMUNITIES BEST, THEY CAN PUT THOSE HOW THEY WANT.
WE CAN REVIEW ALL OF THAT TOGETHER.
I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT IF WE DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF MEETINGS, THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF TIME EFFORT AND ENERGY, AND WE'VE GOT I'M WILLING TO DO THAT.
OUR BOARD HAS TO BE WILLING TO DO THAT ACROSS THE BOARD, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE THESE MEETINGS, I WILL ALSO BE THE LABOR OR MEETING, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY MEETING, THE NONPROFIT MEETING, THE STAFF MEETING, THE TEACHER MEETING, THE STUDENT MEETING, ET CETERA, THAT WE WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF DOING.
I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AS WELL.
THAT THE MORE MEETINGS WE HAVE IS DEFINITELY MORE COMMUNITY INPUT, AND IT'S A VERY VALUABLE THING, AND I'M ON BOARD WITH IT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL ON BOARD WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF MEETINGS.
ANYONE ELSE ONLINE WANT TO JUMP IN.
OTHERWISE, WE'RE COMING BACK TO TRUSTEE WHITE.
>> LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, I FEEL LIKE IF THE MEETINGS ARE STAGGERED AND EVERYBODY DOESN'T HAVE THEIRS ON THURSDAY AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AND WE HAVE IN PERSON AND VIRTUAL, WE CAN JUMP IN ON ANOTHER DISTRICT'S VIRTUAL MEETING.
I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD DO ANYWAY.
MAINLY IF IT'S VIRTUAL, I WOULD DEFINITELY DO THAT.
I GUESS I NEED TO GET CLARIFICATION ON SOMETHING, CHAIRMAN.
ARE THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, THE STUDENTS, THE TEACHERS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ATTENDING THE SAME MEETING BECAUSE IT ALMOST SOUNDED LIKE YOU JUST SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE SEPARATE.
BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED THERE ARE GOING TO BE A LOT OF MEETINGS IF WE, SO CAN YOU? THAT'S UP TO US.
THIS CAME UP LAST TIME BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT HOSTING OUR OWN MEETINGS THAT PEOPLE GENERALLY IN THE VICINITY WILL COME TO.
SOME OF THOSE MIGHT BE PARENTS AND STUDENTS AND MEMBERS OF ORGANIZATIONS OR ADMINISTRATORS, FOR SURE.
BUT THE QUESTION HERE WAS, THERE ARE OTHER GROUPS ACROSS DALLAS WHO ARE VERY INVESTED IN DALLAS ISD AND STAKEHOLDERS, AND DO WE WANT TO MAKE IT A POINT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE A OUTLET TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS? FOR INSTANCE, INSTEAD OF ASKING ALL INDIVIDUAL TEACHERS TO SHOW UP AT EACH INDIVIDUAL MEETING AND MAKING THEM COME OUT.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO ADMINISTRATION.
I'M SURE YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF TEACHER REPRESENTATIVES AT EACH SCHOOL.
MAYBE WE HOST A PARTICULAR MEETING FOR THE TEACHER REPRESENTATIVE FOR EACH SCHOOL THAT WANTS TO COME, AND WE CAN HEAR THE VOICES OF EDUCATORS IN ONE PARTICULAR FASHION LIKE THAT,
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AS OPPOSED TO SAYING, HERE'S THE LIST OF NIGHT MEETINGS WE'RE HOSTING.SHOW UP TO ANY THAT YOU WANT TO SHOW UP AT.
SAME THING FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
LIKE, INSTEAD OF ASKING EVERYONE JUST TO COME UP AND REPRESENT THOSE INTERESTS, DO WE SAY, WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE OUT OF A SCHOOL SYSTEM AS STAKEHOLDERS.
WE'RE GOING TO INVITE ALL THE CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE THAT TOUCHDOWN TO SHOW UP AT THIS ONE PARTICULAR TIME AND EXPRESS THEIR INTERESTS.
THAT'S A DECISION WE CAN MAKE IF WE FEEL THE NEED TO HAVE THOSE SEPARATE MEETINGS THAT WE INVITE THEM TO OR IF WE MAKE A DECISION TO SAY, NO, THEY SHOULD JUST BE EXPECTED TO SHOW UP AT COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WHICH MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT DECISION MAKING PROCESS.
BUT THAT'S WHERE IT CAME FROM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE GOT TO DECIDE.
ANYONE ELSE ON THIS? SOME JUST NOTES, AND I'M SORRY IF I DIDN'T CAPTURE EVERYTHING, BUT JUST WANT TO READ BACK WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE IS, TRUSTEE CURRY MENTIONED, LIKE, LEANING INTO THE OPENNESS, GETTING SOLICITING WHICH OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, WHERE THEY SHOULD BE WITH TRUSTEES, BUT ALSO CONTINUING TO SHARE THOSE OUT.
MAKING SURE THAT ADMIN HAS THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE INSIGHT INTO EACH OF THESE, AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY KNOW A TON OF THEM.
I'VE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE VIRTUAL MEETINGS, SOME ASPECTS OF PARTICULAR TRUSTEES HOSTING IT FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES.
WE CAN ASK TRUSTEES TO SAY IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN HOSTING A VIRTUAL MEETING PARTICULARLY.
I'VE HEARD OVERWHELMING CONSENSUS THAT TRUSTEES DEFINITELY WANT TO BE FACILITATING THE MEETINGS IN THEIR REGION, IS IT? WE'RE GOING TO EXPLORE IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO A HYBRID VIRTUAL AND IN PERSON MEETING, AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT WE DEFINITELY STAGGER THE MEETING, SO WE'RE NOT HAVING MULTIPLE MEETINGS ON THE SAME TIME FRAME.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE BIG ELEMENTS THAT I HEARD HERE.
THIS IS NOT THE END OF A CONVERSATION, WE WILL INVITE CONTINUED FEEDBACK ON THIS.
AGAIN, YOU CAN TOTALLY PULL THIS APART.
THIS WAS A ATTEMPT TO GIVE US SOMETHING TO START WITH ABOUT WORKING TO WHAT QUESTIONS SHOULD WE ASK THAT GET TO THE HEART OF WHAT OUR COMMUNITY IS AFTER FOR THEIR STUDENTS.
BOTH FOR THE GOALS, WHICH IS THAT VISION WE TALKED ABOUT, WHAT DO WE WANT STUDENTS TO ACHIEVE ON? WHAT DO WE WANT THEM TO KNOW AND DO BY THE TIME THEY LEAVE US? THEN THE CONSTRAINTS, WHICH ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OUR VALUES.
WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE CANNOT SACRIFICE AS WE PURSUE THAT VISION FOR STUDENTS? JUST AS A REMINDER WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY, OUR CURRENT GOALS ON OUR GOOD OLD, TRUSTEE GOAL SHEET HERE.
WE SAID ON THE LAST TIME AROUND THERE ARE FIVE THINGS WE EXPECT FOR OUR STUDENTS AND KNOW AND BE ABLE TO DO.
THAT MEANS BE PROFICIENT AS MEASURED BY OUR STAR ASSESSMENTS.
THAT MEANS TO BE ABLE TO READ BY THIRD GRADE, BE ABLE TO BE ON LEVEL IN MATH BY THIRD GRADE.
THAT IS BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE ON ASSESSMENTS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND THEN MAKE SURE YOU GRADUATE COLLEGE CAREER READY.
THOSE ARE THE FIVE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO SEE FOR OUR STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO KNOW AND DO BY THE TIME THEY LEAVE US.
THEN WE HAD SOME VALUES THAT SAID, ITS WE PURSUE THOSE, DO NOT SACRIFICE RACIAL EQUITY, OUR THEORY OF ACTION, STAFF SATISFACTION AND PERCEPTION, STUDENT SATISFACTION AND PERCEPTION, AND FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY, I BELIEVE, IF I REMEMBER THOSE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
THAT'S WHERE WE WERE LAST TIME.
HOW DO WE GET TO SOME OF THOSE THINGS THIS TIME? THIS IS GOING TO BE AN OPEN QUESTION.
IF Y'ALL HAVE OTHER WAYS TO PHRASE THIS, IF YOU THINK THESE DON'T CAPTURE IT, YOU'RE NOT INSULTING ME BY TELLING ME THIS.
BUT HERE ARE TWO STARTING POINTS THAT WE COULD ASK OUR COMMUNITIES TO WORK THEM TOWARDS ACTUALLY SHARING WHAT THEY REALLY WANT.
FIRST OF ALL, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THESE ARE OPEN ENDED.
YES, THAT'S A DATA HEADACHE, BUT I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN SHARE WHAT'S ON THEIR HEART AND MIND WITHOUT BEING RESTRAINED BY OUR LISTS OR WHATNOT.
FOR GOALS, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT STUDENTS IN DALLAS ISD SHOULD BE ABLE TO KNOW OR ABLE TO DO BY THE ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, AND OR HIGH SCHOOL, LEAVING IT OPEN ENDED.
IF SOMEONE'S REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, LET THE COMMUNITY MEMBER TALK ABOUT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND WHAT THEY WOULD HOPE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS CAN DO.
SAME THING FOR MIDDLE OR HIGH SCHOOL AS A WHOLE.
THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT THERE, ASKING THEM TO PRIORITIZE.
IF YOU COULD ONLY PRIORITIZE TWO OF THOSE, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR MOST PRIORITIZED ONES? TO HELP GIVE US A SENSE OF WHICH ONES COME UP A LOT AND WHICH ONES GET PRIORITIZED THE MOST.
SIMILARLY, ON THE VALUE SIDE, WITH THOSE PRIORITIES IN MIND, WHAT SHOULD DALLAS ISD AVOID OR STOP DOING AS IT FOCUSES ON THOSE PRIORITIES? AGAIN, VERY OPEN ENDED.
YOU COULD ALMOST PUT ANYTHING IN THIS BOX.
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THEN ONCE ANY COMMUNITY MEMBER ACTUALLY LISTS OUT AS MANY THINGS AS THEY THINK WE SHOULD STOP DOING OR AVOID DOING.THEN AGAIN, ASKING THEM TO PRIORITIZE.
WE GET TWO DIFFERENT PIECES OF INFORMATION HERE.
FIRST, ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS, SO WE CAN SEE HOW MUCH IT COMES UP, AND THEN B, WHICH ONES COME UP AS MOST PRIORITIZE? THAT IS SIMPLY A STARTING POINT TO TRY TO GET TO THIS.
THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A BIG DATA LIFT BEHIND THIS THAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN, HENCE WE NEED SOME TIME FOR ADMINISTRATION OR WHOMEVER ELSE TO GO THROUGH AND ORGANIZE THIS DATA.
BUT LET ME JUST PAUSE THERE AND SEE WHAT THOUGHTS, FEEDBACK, QUESTIONS YOU THINK THIS GETS TO THE HEART OF ANY OF THESE CONVERSATIONS, KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE FROM THIS AND COME BACK AND ACTUALLY MAKE IT SPECIFIC.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO EXPECT A PARENT TO BE ABLE TO KNOW ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ASSESSMENTS AND HOW YOU WOULD MEASURE LITERACY.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO RELY ON OUR SUPERINTENDENT TO TELL US THE MOST MEANINGFUL WAYS TO DO THAT, IF INDEED LITERACY IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
I WILL PAUSE THERE, OPEN IT UP FOR ALL COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS, OR IMPROVEMENTS.
WE'LL START WITH TRUSTEE CURRY.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. ONE QUESTION, OF COURSE, I'M SKIPPING AND NOT ANSWERING YOUR EXACT QUESTION TO START WITH, BUT DURING THE LAST MEETING, WE DISCUSSED WHETHER IN THIS PROCESS IS ALSO A GOOD TIME TO EVALUATE OUR MISSION AND OUR VALUES, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REVISED THOSE IN A LONG TIME.
I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK WE NEED SEPARATE QUESTIONS ON THAT.
I THINK THESE MAY INFORM US AS A BOARD HOW TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN THE FUTURE, BUT I WANTED TO JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE FOR DISCUSSION FOR PEOPLE TO SEE IF THEY DISAGREE WITH THAT OR NEED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A DATA CRUNCHING PROCESS, AGAIN, I'M HOPEFUL THERE'S SOMEONE WHO'S SMARTER OR MORE EXPERIENCED IN THIS AREA ON HOW TO COLLECT THE DATA IN A WAY THAT'S USEFUL AND EFFECTIVE FOR US.
I WOULD WANT THEM TO WEIGH IN ON THIS WORDING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK THAT IS USEFUL.
THEN THE ONLY SLIGHT WORDSMITHING I WOULD GIVE YOU AT THIS POINT WITHOUT MORE THOUGHT IS IN THE CONSTRAINTS, I WOULD ADD SOMEWHERE THE CONCEPT OF WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO PRESERVE, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN STOP AND AVOID.
BECAUSE WHEN I THINK OF THINGS LIKE CLIMATE AND CULTURE, CERTAINLY DOESN'T WANT US TO STOP HAVING A GOOD CLIMATE AND CULTURE, BUT I WANT US TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PRESERVING IT.
I MIGHT FRAME THAT VALUE IN A WAY THAT CAPTURES THOSE CONCEPTS AS WELL.
>> THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM OUR BRIEF DISCUSSION AT THE BRIEFING THAT IT SOUNDED LIKE PEOPLE ARE OPEN FOR DEFINITELY REVISITING OUR MISSION AND VISION AS A PART OF THIS PROCESS.
I THINK THE ADDITION OF THINKING ABOUT FRAMING THEIR COMMUNITY VALUES AS PRESERVE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. THANK YOU FOR BOTH OF THOSE.
THEN THE DATA ONE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE AN UPDATE.
WE CAN CHECK OFFLINE. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE DISCUSS IT NOW.
IF WE REACHED OUT TO ANYONE WHO HAS EITHER WORKED WITH US BEFORE OR MIGHT DO THIS WORK ABOUT POTENTIALLY FACILITATING THIS PROCESS ONCE WE COME TO A WORKSHOP OR MAYBE REVIEWING THE DATA.
WE CAN CHECK IN WITH BOARD SERVICES OR PAM LATER ON ABOUT THAT.
>> ANYONE ELSE? TRUSTEE WEINBERG.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO COMMUNITY VALUES AND CONSTRAINTS IN CONFLATING THOSE.
IN OUR EDUCATIONAL PHILOSOPHY, WE HAVE A LIST OF VALUES THAT WE EXPECT EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THE SYSTEM TO ADHERE TO.
THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE ONES AND THE CONSTRAINTS.
I'M WONDERING CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THE CONSTRAINT AND VALUE AND THEN THE CORE VALUES AND HOW THEY'RE RELATED AND HOW WE HANDLE THAT IN THIS PROCESS?
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I THINK THE TWO THINGS THAT I WOULD JUST SAY FOR MY KNOWLEDGE OF THIS IS THAT IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE VALUES WE LIST ARE PRETTY BROAD, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
IT'S LIKE, TRUST, ACCOUNTABILITY, RESPECT.
>> RESPONSIBILITY, RESPECT, CARING.
>> THE CONSTRAINTS, THE PURPOSE OF THESE ARE REALLY AROUND MORE LIKE, ACTIONS THAT SHOULDN'T BE PURSUED AS WE PURSUE OUR GOAL.
IF WE HAVE TO SAY THE VALUE THAT WE HOLD IS FOLLOWING THE LAW, WE'VE PROBABLY PICKED THE WRONG SUPERINTENDENT, IF WE HAVE TO TELL HER TO FOLLOW THE LAW.
THESE SHOULD NOT BE THE THINGS THAT ARE AT THE BASIC LEVEL OF JUST WAYS OF BEING.
THESE SHOULD REALLY BE AROUND, LIKE, WHAT CAN WE NOT SACRIFICE IN THIS PROCESS? IT COULD BE THINGS AS TACTICAL AS WE REALLY VALUE IN THIS COMMUNITY, DEEP COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
THEN THAT'S HOW WE DEFINE THAT AS A VALUE, THAT CAN THEN BE ACTIONAL.
YOU CAN'T GO MAKE DECISIONS WITHOUT DEEP COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. WE FIGURE THAT.
IT COULD BE LIKE WE CURRENTLY HAVE IT, STAFF CULTURE AS MEASURED BY.
ADMINISTRATION KNOWS THAT, YES, WE MIGHT MAKE SOME DECISIONS.
SOME OF THOSE MIGHT BE GOOD FOR STUDENTS AND HELP US ACHIEVE OUR GOALS,
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BUT MIGHT ACTUALLY CAUSE BAD CULTURE.WE WANT TO AVOID THOSE THINGS.
THEY SHOULD BE THESE EXTRA THINGS, THESE ACTIONS THAT MIGHT REASONABLY BE TAKEN IF WE DON'T HAVE A CONSTRAINT AROUND IT.
AS OPPOSED TO HOLISTIC, WE WOULD JUST EXPECT ANYBODY TO HAVE INTEGRITY.
I THINK THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE, BUT I THINK IT'S A VALID QUESTION BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A VALUE, WE SHOULD CONSTRAIN IT.
ANY FOLKS ONLINE? THE TV HAS GONE BLANK.
I CANNOT SEE YOU IF YOU ARE THERE.
>> CAN I ASK A SECOND QUESTION IN MY FOUR MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS THAT I'VE BEEN FOR MY 10?
>> SURE. I FORGOT WE HAD A 10 MINUTE CLOCK HERE.
>> I JUST THOUGHT TAKING I THOUGHT THAT I WOULD ASK.
ARE YOU ENVISIONING JUST IN THE PROCESS, TAKING THESE QUESTIONS, THESE TWO QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH AND ASKING THOSE AND COLLECTING THE INFORMATION ON THOSE AND USING THOSE TO INFORM THE GOAL SETTING?
>> YES, IF THESE WERE TO BE DECIDED, I GUESS, THAT MAKES SENSE, WE CAN GET SOME GOOD INFORMATION HERE.
>> THEN WOULD THAT ALSO BE WHAT WE WOULD SURVEY?
>> IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT IT'S SAME CONSISTENT QUESTIONS, YES. WHATEVER THEY HAPPENED TO BE.
>> I WAS JUST ALSO WONDERING, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF OUR INFORMATION IS BASED ON THE TESTING THE GRADE LEVELS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO PRE-K THROUGH SECOND GRADE, HOW ARE WE FOCUSING ON MONITORING THEM? BECAUSE I'M JUST THINKING THAT IF YOU CATCH THEM MAINLY IN PRE-K AND THEY'RE READING BY THE TIME THEY ARE PRE-K4 GETTING READY TO GO INTO THE FIRST GRADE, THAT'S WONDERFUL.
I FEEL THAT'S WHAT OUR AIM AND GOAL IS.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, HOW ARE WE ALSO WORKING WITH THAT AGE GROUP IN THOSE GRADES.
WE ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED BY LAW TO HAVE A THIRD GRADE READING GOAL OF SOME SORT.
I THINK HOW WE CURRENTLY HAVE IT, AND THIS WILL BE UP FOR DISCUSSION AS WE GO INTO IT.
IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE A THIRD GRADE READING GOAL, IT'S REALLY HARD TO NOT MONITOR WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE EARLIER GRADE LEVELS.
I THINK THE QUESTION ON WHAT METRICS ARE MOST MEANINGFUL, WHAT THOSE GOALS ARE, HOW IT ALIGNS, IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME UP IN THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT WORKSHOP.
I COULD SEE A WORLD IN WHICH IF THE COMMUNITY COMES UP AND SAYS, HEY, PRE-K IS A HUGE PRIORITY, AND WE AGREE, AND WE DECIDE THAT, THAT'S A PRIORITY.
WE NEED TO PUT PRE-K AS ITS OWN SEPARATE GOALS. WE'RE FREE TO DO THAT.
THEN ADMINISTRATION WILL HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT ARE THE PROGRESS MEASURES THAT MOST MEANINGFULLY ALIGN TO THAT.
WHATEVER GOALS WE COME UP WITH, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY ARE, IT'S OUR JOB TO PRIORITIZE THAT AND SAY, THESE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE, SUPERINTENDENT.
THESE ARE THE ONES WE EXPECT YOU TO ACHIEVE.
THEN THEY GOT TO GO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MONITOR PROGRESS.
IF WE'VE GOT A PRIORITY ON EARLIER GRADES, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE MAKE A PRIORITY THROUGH OUR GOALS.
IF WE'VE GOT A PRIORITY ON A PARTICULAR ELEMENT OF SEVENTH GRADE SOCIAL STUDIES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT CAME UP, THEN WE SET THAT, AND THEN IT'S UP TO ADMINISTRATION TO FIGURE OUT WHAT LADDERS UP TO THAT.
I THINK ONCE WE SET OUR PRIORITIES, THAT OPENS UP THAT ENTIRE CONVERSATION ABOUT, WELL, THEN HOW ARE YOU GOING TO KNOW WE'RE ON TRACK TO THAT? DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
I GUESS MORE OF MY QUESTION WAS, AND AND I GET IT, YOU FOCUS IS SPLIT.
BUT I WAS SAYING, BASICALLY, I KNOW OUR AIM AND GOAL IS TO HAVE OUR PRE-K STUDENTS AT LEAST READING BEFORE THEY GET INTO FIRST GRADE.
WE OF COURSE WANT TO REACH THEM AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE.
LIKE I SAID, I KNEW IT WASN'T A PART OF OUR GOAL NOW, BUT I WAS ASKING, WHICH I THINK YOU DID ANSWER TO SOME DEGREE THAT IF WE DECIDED TO, WE COULD NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO DO, BUT THAT'S OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE DEFINITELY READY.
>> GENERALLY, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU MY TWO CENTS.
THIS BOARD CAN SET WHATEVER GOALS IT WANTS.
IF WE WANT TO SET SOMETHING AS A GOAL THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY A GOAL, THAT'S ON US.
SUPERINTENDENT IS GOING TO TELL US HOW THEY THINK IT'S BEST POSSIBLE TO MEASURE THAT, AND THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A WAY TO DO THAT.
THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT WE'LL ENGAGE WITH DURING THAT WORKSHOP.
BUT WE SHOULD SET THE GOALS THAT ARE THE PRIORITY THAT WE BELIEVE ARE THE PRIORITY FOR OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, FOR SURE, WHETHER OR NOT THEY EXIST CURRENTLY OR NOT.
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THANK YOU. TRUSTEE WHITE.>> I HAVE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
>> THIS MAY BE FOR OUR BOARD COUNSEL.
IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT TRUSTEE FORMAN IS NOT ABLE TO SPEAK BECAUSE HER CAMERA IS NOT ON, I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN SUSPEND THAT RULE SO THAT SHE CAN PARTICIPATE, OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR POWERS ARE, BUT I CERTAINLY WOULD NOT WHAT SOMEONE JUST TO JOIN IN AND NOT BE ABLE TO TALK.
>> I CAN GET SLAPPED ON THE WRIST LATER.
TRUSTEE FORMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN IN.
>> EXCUSE ME. THE ATTORNEY SAYS I HAVE TO HAVE THE CAMERA ON.
WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THIS RULE EARLIER WHEN WE DID OTHER MEETINGS AND TRUSTEES WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.
>> I'M GOING TO DO. I'M GOING TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND THEN THEY'RE TRYING TO HELP ME ON THIS END TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S WRONG.
>> YOU'RE GOOD TO GO. JUST GO AHEAD AND SPEAK. DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE CAMERA.
>> WELL, I HAVEN'T HEARD ALL THE CONVERSATION, SO I'LL SPEAK, BUT I HEAR MORE.
THANK YOU. LISA, YOU'RE TRYING TO HELP ME.
>> TRUSTEE FORMAN. WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU WHEN YOU'RE READY TO CHIME IN.
>> IN THE MEANTIME, ANYONE ELSE ONLINE, REGARDLESS OF YOUR CAMERA WORKS WANT TO CHIME IN?
>> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE TURNER. THIS WAS HELPFUL.
THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK ON THIS, SORRY.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ELEMENT OF THIS, WHICH IS 4.03 DRAFTING QUESTIONS FOR COMMUNITY LISTENING SURVEY.
I HAVE TWO SLIDES HERE THAT WE CAN TALK THROUGH.
THIS GOES TO THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED AROUND, WOULD IT BE THE SAME QUESTIONS? WE CAN DECIDE THAT.
AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF WE'RE GOING TO ASK A SET OF QUESTIONS, WE SHOULD KEEP IT CONSISTENT, SO WE HAVE CONSISTENT INFORMATION ACROSS OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
HOWEVER, A SURVEY IS THERE OTHER THINGS THAT WE SHOULD ASK? SPECIFICALLY, DO WE WANT TO ASK ANYTHING ABOUT ENSURING REPRESENTATIVE RESPONSES? DO WE WANT TO ASK WHAT ZIP CODE DO YOU LIVE IN SO WE CAN GET A SENSE OF WHERE THAT COMES FROM? WHAT DISTRICT YOU LIVE IN? WHAT CHANNELS DO WE WANT TO COMMUNICATE THIS SURVEY OUT THROUGH? IT'S PROBABLY NOT JUST OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.
DO WE WANT TO HAVE FLYERS THAT, MAYBE SCHOOLS CAN SEND OUT WITH STUDENTS? THERE'S TONS OF OPPORTUNITIES.
I WANTED TO OPEN UP THIS QUESTION ABOUT, HEY, IS THERE OTHER THINGS WE SHOULD ASK WHEN WE FINALIZE PARTICULAR QUESTIONS? AGAIN, NOTHING IS BEING FINALIZED HERE? WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO THE FULL BOARD.
ONCE WE FINALIZE WHAT QUESTIONS WE WANT TO ASK, WHAT ELSE SHOULD BE ASKED ON A SURVEY? DO WE WANT TO ASK ON A SURVEY? FOR INSTANCE, HOW DO YOU AFFILIATE WITH THE DISTRICT? CHECK ALL THAT APPLY. ARE YOU A PARENT? ARE YOU A STUDENT? ARE YOU A THIS? ARE YOU A THAT? WE COULD DO A LOT OF THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEN AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, HERE'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING WE COULD DO.
WHAT I TRIED TO DO AS A STARTING POINT, AGAIN, NO PRIDE OF AUTHORSHIP, TELL ME IT'S RIGHT, WRONG, ETC.
TO START OFF EVERY COMMUNITY MEETING WITH THE OVERVIEW AND THE WELCOME FROM WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
WHAT TRUSTEE FORMAN MENTIONED EARLIER, HERE ARE OUR GOALS, THIS LAST ITERATION, HERE ARE OUR CONSTRAINTS.
HERE'S WHAT WE'VE ACHIEVED. HERE'S WHAT WE HAVEN'T ACHIEVED.
HERE'S WHAT WE DID DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE WE HAD THESE GOALS.
GIVING THAT OVERVIEW AND THEN SETTING UP, BUT NOW IT'S TIME THESE GOALS EXPIRE.
WE'RE GOING TO SET A NEXT SET OF GOALS THAT WE NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU.
ESSENTIALLY, THE GOAL ON HAVING ACTIVITIES RATHER THAN US TALKING IS TO GIVE FOLKS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND GENERATE THEM TO TRUSTEE WHITE'S POINT EARLIER ABOUT WHEN PEOPLE HAVE CONVERSATIONS, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS.
ESSENTIALLY, HAVE THEM BROKEN UP INTO SMALL GROUPS.
WE COULD HAVE SOME SUPPLIES, SOME CHART PAPER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND ASK THEM THESE QUESTIONS.
WHAT ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT STUDENTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO KNOW AND DO ELEMENTARY MIDDLE AND OR HIGH SCHOOL.
HAVE PEOPLE WORK FOR A WHILE, TRUSTEES CAN CIRCULATE, ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, TRY TO UNDERSTAND, ASK THEM TO CIRCLE TWO.
WHAT ARE YOUR MOST PRIORITIZED ONES, AND THEN HAVE AN ASPECT WHERE EACH OF THOSE GROUPS CAN SHARE OUT AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
THIS IS WHAT WE THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT.
THIS IS WHAT WE PRIORITIZE AND WHY TO JUST GENERATE THIS CONVERSATION.
THEN REPEATING THAT PROCESS WITH THE VALUES, WHATEVER OUR QUESTION ENDS UP BEING.
SORRY, THIS SAYS GOAL, BUT IT SHOULD BE CONSTRAINT QUESTIONS.
ASK THEM TO PRIORITIZE, HAVE THEM SHARE OUT AGAIN, AND THEN CLOSE OUT.
HERE'S WHAT YOU EXPECT. HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU'VE WRITTEN HERE.
WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER'S THERE FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE CAN TAKE PICTURES OF THESE, WE CAN PUT THEM IN, WE CAN ASK DATA FOLKS TO PARSE ALL THAT STUFF OUT.
THEN SHARE THEM WHAT WE EXPECT.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE MEETINGS.
HERE'S THE LIST OF OTHER MEETINGS COMING UP. INVITE YOUR FRIENDS.
THE BOARD IS GOING TO REVIEW ALL OF THIS IN DECEMBER AND
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START TO PUT SOME MEAT ON THESE BONES, AND WE'LL SHARE IT BACK OUT WITH YOU.THAT'S AGAIN, A SET OF QUESTIONS AROUND A SURVEY IF WE WANT TO DO A SURVEY.
COMMUNITY MEETINGS. THIS CAN BE DONE IN PERSON.
THIS SAME ACTIVITY CAN BE DONE VIA ZOOM.
IT COULD PROBABLY BE DONE VIA HYBRID IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT AGAIN, JUST WANT TO OPEN THIS UP AS A STARTING POINT AND GET PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS, REACTIONS, RESPONSES, OR SUGGESTIONS TO IMPROVE OR CHANGE THIS.
>> I HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION.
>> YES, MA'AM. TRUSTEE WEINBERG.
>> ONE. I WANT TO SAY THAT I LIKE THAT.
I THINK IT PROVIDES CLEAR NORM SETTING AND WHAT TO EXPECT SETTING.
BUT MY CLARIFYING QUESTION IS ON ASKING OF TWO QUESTIONS AND ASKING OF TWO PRIORITIES WHEN WE EXPECT WE'LL HAVE FIVE GOALS.
IS THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME GOALS THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE TO SET BY THE STATE SO WE'RE TRYING TO FINE TUNE TO THINGS DIFFERENT THAN THAT?
>> THE REASON THAT I STARTED WITH TWO HERE IS BECAUSE, WELL, WE WILL SAY FIVE OR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS FROM 18 DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND IN EACH GROUP, 15 DIFFERENT GROUPS.
FROM ALL OF THAT, IF EVERYONE PICKS FIVE, YOU REALLY DON'T GET A LOT OF PRIORITIZATION.
BUT IF EACH GROUP HAS TWO, WHEN YOU AGGREGATE ALL THAT UP, YOU ACTUALLY SEE THE PRIORITIZATION.
>> TRUSTEE FORMAN, I SEE YOU'RE BACK ON, TRUSTEE FORMAN. YOU'RE ON MUTE, THOUGH.
>> I UNMUTED NOW. I AM SWEATING.
I AM SO TIRED, TRYING TO GET ON HERE.
THERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS AND I DIDN'T HEAR EVERYTHING BECAUSE I WAS BUSY TRYING TO GET ON.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO EXPRESS ABOUT WHEN I SUGGESTED THE TWO TRUSTEE MEETINGS, ONE VIRTUAL AND ONE, ONLINE CAMPUS, PROBABLY IS THAT I EXPECTED OR WANTED THIS FOR THE TRUSTEES FOR THAT DISTRICT, NOT OTHER TRUSTEES TO GO INTO SOMEONE ELSE'S DISTRICT TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT MEETINGS.
CERTAINLY, TRUSTEES ARE ALWAYS WELCOME IN OTHER TRUSTEES DISTRICTS, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT KNOWS THESE TRUSTEES ARE ABLE TO HEAR FROM THEM?
>> I'M GOING TO SAY THAT MAKES SENSE.
WHAT I'M HEARING FOR THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY IS MAKING SURE THAT IF THE MEETING IS BEING HELD IN DISTRICT 6, THAT TRUSTEE FORMAN IS THE LEAD TRUSTEE.
>> BUT TRUSTEE CURRY MIGHT BE JOINING ME TO HEAR WHAT OUR COMMUNITY IS TALKING ABOUT.
IF ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS OR TALK, BUT I GOT YOU.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I DIDN'T HEAR ALL OF IT ABOUT THE GOALS BECAUSE BLESS THE LISA'S HEART. SHE'S WONDERFUL.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT WE DIFFERENTIATE FROM THE GOALS THAT THE STATE REQUIRES US TO HAVE AND THE GOALS THAT WE MIGHT BE SET.
>> GREAT POINT. I'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.
>> THERE IS A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S A MANDATE.
THESE ARE ADDITIONAL GOALS THAT WE SET.
>> ALSO, AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT JUST A LITTLE BIT. I JUST HEARD SOME OF IT.
WE HAVE TO ALSO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY THE GOALS THAT WE HAD SET PREVIOUSLY, AND THAT WAS IT FOR FIVE YEARS?
>> BUT WE TWEAKED SOME OF THOSE.
BUT WE HAVE TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW HOW WELL WE DID ON THOSE SPECIFIC GOALS SO THAT THEY HAVE SOME FRAME OF REFERENCE TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND WHAT GOES INTO SETTING GOALS, AND THEN ALSO THE PROGRESS MEASURES.
>> I AGREE. THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
I'VE MADE THAT NOTE, AND WE'LL MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR. THANK YOU.
>> OTHER FOLKS ONLINE BEFORE WE GO TO TRUSTEE CURRY?
>> TRUSTEE CURRY, THEN TRUSTEE WHITE.
>> ONE, I THINK YOUR TIME ALLOTMENT IS GOOD IF WE'RE KEEPING IT TO AN HOUR SHORTLY THEREAFTER.
I DO WONDER IF WE HAD MORE TIME TO STRETCH, THAT'D BE GOOD, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF MEETINGS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BUSY.
I DON'T FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THAT, BUT I COULD EASILY SEE THIS DISCUSSION GOING LONGER GIVEN THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE TOPICS.
GOING BACK TO YOUR OTHER QUESTION, THOUGH, I THOUGHT WAS VERY ASTUTE ON COLLECTING OTHER INFORMATION ABOUT RESPONDENTS.
I THINK MAYBE WE ABLE TO DO THIS ABOUT WHO ATTENDS THE PUBLIC MEETINGS AS WELL.
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I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO TRACK WHAT INFORMATION IS APPROPRIATE, TO TRY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING A GOOD SOLID REPRESENTATIVE SET OF DIFFERENT PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY.CERTAINLY DIFFERENT ROLES WITHIN THE SYSTEM, PARENTS, STUDENTS, TEACHERS, STAFF, WHOEVER ELSE THAT WE'RE ASKING, NON PROFITS, VENDORS, WHOEVER'S GOING TO BE THERE.
BUT ALSO APPROPRIATE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING A BROADER SET.
I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO KNOW AS WE'RE THINKING THROUGH THESE GOALS.
WELL, PARENTS, IN PARTICULAR, SEEM TO REALLY CARE ABOUT THESE GOALS, AND TEACHERS SEEM TO CARE ABOUT THESE OTHER GOALS, AND THAT MIGHT BE REALLY USEFUL INFORMATION DURING OUR DISCUSSION.
I JUST WANTED TO ECHO THAT, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA AND WE WANT SOME GUIDANCE FROM THE DATA PEOPLE ON HOW TO DO THAT WELL.
>> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE CURRY. TRUSTEE WHITE.
>> I THOUGHT WE LOSE BUT SINCE WE ARE HERE NOW, I STRONGLY FEEL THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A SEPARATE MEETING WHERE IT IS EXPLAINED TO THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE, LIKE I WAS SAYING, A LOT OF TIMES PARENTS JUST GET INFORMATION, THE RESULTS FOR THEIR ONE CHILD WITH THEIR TEST ON IT, AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE IS THEIR CHILD'S TEST SCORES.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE SCHOOL, OVERALL, BECAUSE OF THE BAD PUBLICITY AND PRESS THAT HAS CONSISTENTLY BEEN PUT OUT WHEN IT'S CONCERNING PUBLIC SCHOOLS FROM OUR LEADERSHIP IN AUSTIN, I FEEL IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR PARENTS TO UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF HOW THIS INFORMATION IS GATHERED, AND IT IS BROKEN DOWN IN EVERYDAY PLAIN ENGLISH THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES, LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT HOUSTON ISD WAS A BAD DISTRICT, AND THAT'S WHY THE STATE TOOK THEM OVER.
THAT IS NOT WHY THE STATE TOOK THEM OVER.
THE STATE TOOK THEM OVER BECAUSE OF ONE SCHOOL.
OF COURSE, PEOPLE IN EDUCATION CIRCLES KNOW THAT, BUT THE EVERYDAY COMMON PARENTS DON'T KNOW THAT.
I THINK I WOULD FEEL GREAT KNOWING THAT PARENTS UNDERSTOOD, HEY, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A STRUGGLING CAMPUS HERE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERYTHING ABOUT IT IS BAD.
THAT MEANS WE DO NEED YOU GUYS TO COME IN AND ASSIST, MAKE SURE YOUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT IS PUTTING IN THE HOURS THAT ARE NEEDED TO PASS THESE AP COURSES THAT WE HAVE.
IT'S JUST A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT PARENTS DISD OFFERS SO MUCH THAT PARENTS ARE NOT AWARE OF, AND WE COULD VERY WELL HAVE PROGRAMS THAT THE PARENTS COULD TAP INTO THAT COULD HELP THEIR CHILD.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS SET ASIDE FOR SOMEONE, BUT IF YOU DON'T TELL THEM HOW TO ACCESS IT, IT'S JUST A MILLION DOLLAR SITTING THERE.
IT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED TO ITS FULLEST POTENTIAL FOR THE PERSONS WHO REALLY NEED IT.
LIKE I SAID, IF WE DID THIS IN A SEPARATE MEETING, BECAUSE I HEARD TRUSTEE CURRY MENTION, YES, WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP THE MEETING TO A HOUR AND A HALF MAX BECAUSE I KNOW MORE THAN LIKELY WE TO TRY TO DO THESE IN THE EVENINGS ONCE WE FEEL THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE OFF WORK, AND MAYBE MAY CONSIDER A DAY MEETING AT A NIGHT MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M BASICALLY JUST LOOKING AT MINE DURING THE NIGHT TIME WHEN I CONSIDER PEOPLE OFF WORK.
BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO EDUCATE PARENTS ON THE PROCESS.
I NEVER HAD ANYONE COME AND BASICALLY GO OVER THIS WITH ME WITH MY CHILD OR WASN'T IN SCHOOL.
I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY VALUABLE INFORMATION FOR THE COMMUNITY TO RECEIVE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT, TRUSTEE WHITE.
NUMBER 1, IS MAKING SURE THAT WE EXPLAIN THIS IN A WAY ABOUT, LIKE HOW THE INFO IS GATHERED, WHAT IT'S USED FOR, ALL OF THIS, AND AVOID THE ACRONYMS, THE JARGON, MAKE IT EASY TO UNDERSTAND FOR FOLKS ABOUT WHAT THIS IS LOOKING LIKE, AND ALSO USE THESE WHERE POSSIBLE AS A WAY TO DISSEMINATE THE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW PARENTS CAN GET INVOLVED, HOW FOLKS CAN STILL ENGAGE WITH THE DISTRICT OR MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT AREN'T WIDELY TAKEN ADVANTAGE.
>> YEAH, BUT I'M NOT SAYING TAKE JARGON OUT.
I MEAN, A LOT OF TIMES EVEN WITH STAFF MEMBERS, THEY'RE SO USED TO USING CCMR OR WHATEVER, AND YOU ASK THEM, WHAT DOES IT MEAN? EVEN THEY ARE SOMETIMES GOING, BECAUSE THEY'RE SO USED TO USING THE ACRONYM.
IN SO MANY DIFFERENT FIELDS, THE SAME ACRONYM COULD BE USED FOR SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
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I'M JUST SAYING BASICALLY, JUST LIKE YOU SEE IN A LEGAL DOCUMENT.IF YOU KNOW IT'S FOR CAREER, COLLEGE, AND MILITARY READINESS, SAY IT THE FIRST TIME AND LET PEOPLE KNOW YOU'LL BE USING THAT ACRONYM FROM THIS DAY FORTH.
WELL, NOT THIS DAY, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE MEETING.
THE REASON I'M SAYING, DON'T DUMB IT DOWN BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF VERY INTELLIGENT PARENTS, SOME OF THE PARENTS ARE TEACHERS, JUST FROM MY CHILD'S CAMPUS ALONE, WE HAD SO MANY DIFFERENT PARENTS THAT WAS FROM EVERY WALK OF LIFE AND WE ALL PULLED TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER FOR A COMMON CAUSE.
IN OTHER WORDS, I'M JUST SAYING, DON'T DISCOUNT THAT WE HAVE TO DROP IT DOWN TO THE BASIC, BUT JUST TO EXPLAIN.
>> EXPLAIN AND BE MINDFUL OF HOW WE EXPLAIN.
>> THANK YOU, TRUSTY WHITE. TRUSTEE WEINBERG.
>> A THOUGHT CAME TO ME, MIGHT WE BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT PEOPLE CAN BE THINKING ABOUT IF WE WANT TO KEEP OUR MEETINGS EFFICIENT AND AN AGENDA LIKE OR THESE ARE THE TWO QUESTIONS WE'LL BE DISCUSSING AND THAT SORT OF THING.
>> I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
OTHER FOLKS ONLINE, HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO CHIME IN? TRUSTEE FORMAN?
>> I JUST WANT US TO BE MINDFUL THAT ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES ARE NOT GOING TO RECEIVE THE INFORMATION THE SAME WAY.
I DON'T WANT US TO SET UP A COOKIE CUTTER TYPE SITUATION.
I DO WANT US TO BE ABLE TO STAY WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE MEETINGS.
BUT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE ACADEMIC CONVERSATIONS WITH MY COMMUNITY REGARDING WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE SITUATION.
THAT'S WHY IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TO BE ONLINE OR AT THE MEETINGS TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST YOU IN ANSWERING SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
TO TRUSTEE WHITE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT [INAUDIBLE], THERE ARE A LOT OF TIMES THAT WHEN MEETINGS ARE OVER, IT IS THE MEETING AFTER THE MEETING?
>> THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, AND I THINK THAT'S FOR A GOOD REASON SO THAT YOU CAN BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM AND CONTINUE TO TALK TO THEM AND NOT CONTINUING TO TALK STAFF TIME BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THE MEETING AFTER THE MEETING IS REALLY NOT ABOUT WHAT THE STAFF IS TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S MORE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE SCHOOL OR THE COMMUNITY OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
I NEVER LIMIT MYSELF TO AN HOUR MEETING.
I ALWAYS WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT I'M AVAILABLE UNTIL THEY'RE READY TO GO ON.
I'VE GOT SOMEBODY THAT'S REALLY ROUGH AND WANT TO STAY THREE HOURS LATER.
BUT I ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
>> THAT MAKES A TON OF SENSE. THE TIME FRAMES WERE NOTHING BUT AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.
I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT SOME MEETINGS WILL RUN LONGER, AND IF PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO STAY GREAT, THAT I THINK THOSE ARE JUST ESTIMATES.
>> ANYTHING ELSE> I SEE ALL THE LIGHTS ON ARE THOSE LINGERING OR NEW.
>> WHILE I WAS SITTING HERE THINKING WHILE TRUSTEE FORMAN WAS TALKING, AND I'M GOING, THE PARENTS DON'T KNOW THIS INFORMATION.
THERE'S A LOT OF THESE BUSINESS PEOPLE AND COMMUNITY PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW THIS INFORMATION AS FAR AS HOW WE COME ABOUT WITH GATHERING THE DATA.
THEY DON'T KNOW. LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF TIMES, EVEN IF THEY HAVE KIDS IN THE DISTRICT, THEY GET THE ONE LETTER.
OH, MY CHILD'S DOING GREAT, AND THAT'S IT.
THEY DON'T KNOW, THEY'RE NOT ASKING AS FAR AS LOOKING AT THE CAMPUS OVERALL.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD INFORMATION TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL, AND MAYBE THEY'LL SEE HOW IMPORTANT WHEN WE GO BEGGING FOR THINGS, WE'RE BEGGING FOR A REASON.
IT'S BECAUSE WE REALLY CARE ABOUT EVERY CHILD BEING SUCCESSFUL. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. THAT'S A GREAT POINT, TRUSTEE WHITE.
ANYONE ELSE ON THIS ITEM? THAT MOVES US TO 4.04, WHICH IS NEXT STEPS.
AGAIN, THIS IS COMMITTEE MEETING ON AUGUST 14, OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS OR SO, BASED ON ALL THE FEEDBACK HERE IS, A, I WILL SUMMARIZE THIS ALL TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT BACK AT THE AUGUST 22 MEETING,
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AND FOLKS WILL SEND IT OUT AS SOON AS I GET THAT DONE, WE'LL GET BOARD SERVICES TO SEND IT TO ALL TRUSTEES TO ATTACH IT TO THE MEETING AGENDA AND ALL THAT.PEOPLE CAN PROVIDE FEEDBACK COMMENTS.
IF ANYTHING WAS CAPTURED INCORRECTLY OR MISSED, I'VE BEEN TAKING A WHOLE BUNCH OF NOTES HERE.
WE WILL ALSO GET UP AND RUNNING.
IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE WAS A WIDE AGREEMENT TO ASK TRUSTEES.
WE SHOULD THE MEETINGS BE? HOW MANY DO YOU THINK YOUR DISTRICT NEEDS? WHAT TIMES AND DAYS WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE FOR YOUR MEETINGS, ET CETERA.
WE'LL ASK FOLKS TO SHARE, HEY, WHAT ORGANIZATIONS DO YOU THINK SHOULD BE EXPLICITLY INVITED? WE CAN ASK BOARD SERVICES TO SEND THAT OUT, TRUSTEES CAN FILL THAT OUT.
WE CAN AGGREGATE THAT, AND AS TRUSTEE CURRY MENTIONED, LEAN INTO THE OPENNESS AND SHARE THE AGGREGATE OF HERE'S WHAT EVERYTHING HEARD, AND WHATNOT, AND MAKE SURE THAT EVEN IF AN ORGANIZATION IS OUT THERE THAT IS PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS THAT SOMEHOW IS OFF OF OUR RADAR, WE'D STILL LOVE TO INVITE THEM TO COME OUT TO THESE AS WELL.
WE CAN HOPEFULLY HAVE THAT READY TO SHARE BY AUGUST 22 AND GET ANY FEEDBACK FROM TRUSTEES AT THAT POINT.
IF YOU GOT OTHER THOUGHTS, IF YOU'VE GOT ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, WOULD ABSOLUTELY WELCOME THAT NOW AS WE KEEP ON DOING THIS PROCESS. TRUSTEE WHITE.
>> I SEE WHERE YOU HAVE A COMMITTEE MEETING.
YOU WANT US TO STOP PROVIDING THE DATES FOR OUR MEETINGS.
THAT MEANS THAT WE NEED TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE CAMPUSES THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON HOSTING THOSE MEETINGS AT TO MAKE SURE?
>> NO. WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS WE'LL PUT TOGETHER A SPREADSHEET THAT EACH TRUSTEE CAN BE SENT FROM BOARD SERVICES, SO WE STAY WITHIN OPEN MEETINGS.
IT SHOULD ASK WHERE YOU THINK, LIKE, WHAT AREAS OF YOUR DISTRICT? YOU KNOW YOUR DISTRICT BEST.
LIKE I HEARD YOU SAY, I THINK I NEED TWO MEETINGS.
HERE'S WHERE I MIGHT THINK OF THEM.
ONE IN THE NORTHERN PART, ONE IN THE SOUTHERN PART.
I THINK IF A TRUSTEE SAYS, I THINK IT SHOULD BE AT WILMER-HUTCHINS HIGH SCHOOL OR SUNSET HIGH SCHOOL OR WHATNOT, FEEL FREE TO WRITE THAT IN TO SHARE.
I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO PLAN OUT WHEN THE MEETINGS ARE, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERYBODY.
YOU'LL SAY, LIKE, I THINK IT SHOULD BE A WEEKDAY NIGHT.
I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT AT SIX O'CLOCK.
I THINK I NEEDS TO BE AT SEVEN O'CLOCK OR PROVIDE ALL THAT INFORMATION.
WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THAT IS THEN LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY AS AN ENTIRE BODY, AND SAY, THIS SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE, A LOT OF MEETINGS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO COMMIT TO.
THEN WE WOULD ASK SOME SUPPORT PROBABLY FROM BOARD SERVICES TO ACTUALLY TALK TO THE CAMPUSES, IDENTIFY THE DATES, MAKE SURE THEY'RE GOOD WITH THE TRUSTEES, AND THEN GO FROM THERE.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO AT THIS TIME OTHER THAN PROVIDE OUR FEEDBACK.
>> I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY AND SAYING, WE DON'T NEED TO PUT IN A SUGGESTED MEETING DATE.
UNLESS IF YOU HAVE SOME THAT YOU LIKE, ANY OF THESE DATES WORK, FEEL FREE TO WRITE IT IN.
I'M JUST GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
MATTER OF FACT, I WOULD MORE LIKELY GIVE THEM TWO DATES.
WELL, ACTUALLY, THE MEETING START FROM SEPTEMBER TO OCTOBER.
I KNOW I HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S IN OCTOBER, SO AS SOON AS I GET MINE IN, AND I UNDERSTAND SOMEBODY ELSE MAY HAVE THE SAME DATE, AND WE MAY COMPROMISE OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN DO.
WE GOT NINE PEOPLE THAT'S HAVING TWO MEETINGS EACH ON AVERAGE.
BUT I DEFINITELY WILL BE PROVIDING SUGGESTED DATES AND THE LOCATION.
>> YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY FEEL FREE TO SHARE WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SHARE THERE.
I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THERE IS NOTHING THAT TRUSTEE SHOULD FEEL THE NEED TO DO RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF SCHEDULING THE LOGISTICS AND SETTING UP, BECAUSE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT ALL AS A BOARD, BUT YES, PROVIDE ALL THE DETAIL YOU WANT TO PROVIDE.
>> YES, MA'AM. TRUSTEE FORMAN.
>> I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE CLARITY ON THERE MIGHT BE MEETINGS HAPPENING IN MORE THAN ONE TRUSTEE DISTRICT ON THE SAME DAY.
THAT IS A POSSIBILITY BECAUSE YOU HAVE SUCH A SHORT WINDOW.
I WAS LISTENING TO TRUSTEE WHITE THAT THERE MIGHT BE MEETINGS, TRUSTEE WHITE IN YOUR DISTRICT, THE SAME NIGHT I'M HAVING A MEETING IN MY DISTRICT, AND THAT'S OKAY.
>> I AGREE. WE CAN LOOK AT THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE A DIVERSITY NIGHT.
IF SOMEONE CAN'T HAPPEN TO GO THAT NIGHT, THEY CAN FEEL FREE TO SHOW UP AT ONE IN DISTRICT 7 AND COME SHARE THOUGHTS OVER THERE.
I AGREE WITH YOU, TRUSTEE FORMAN, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S A CONCERN.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A CONCERN IF WE HAD NINE MEETINGS ON THE SAME NIGHT, BUT I DON'T PARTICIPATE IN THAT ONE.
>> WALK BY THE ADMINISTRATION THAN US.
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>> TRUE. ANY OTHER FEEDBACK HERE? THOSE ARE BOTH VERY HELPFUL.
TEAM, WELL, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR SHOWING UP AND BEING HERE.
DR. OZADE, YOU'VE BEEN QUIET, BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH US.
>> 5:40 P.M, AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.