[1. Notice and Return]
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ALL RIGHT. YEAH.I'M HERE. THE TIME IS 4:03 P.M.
WE HAVE A QUORUM, AND THIS MEETING HAS BEEN DULY POSTED.
PLEASE STAND US AND JOIN US FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND A SALUTE TO THE TEXAS FLAG.
TRUSTEE ED TURNER, TRUSTEE SARAH WEINBERG.
WE ARE ALSO JOINED WITH TRUSTEE CAMILLE WHITE, TRUSTEE LANCE CURRIE, AND TRUSTEE GEORGE FOREMAN.
A QUORUM OF THE SUPERINTENDENT'S EVALUATION AD HOC COMMITTEE IS PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT THIS LOCATION.
SO NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 4.01 GOALS AND CONSTRAINTS COMMITTEE.
[4. Discussion Items]
SCOPE OF WORK I THINK WE DO HAVE A BRIEF POWERPOINT THAT I JUST ASSEMBLED.THIS CAN BE USED TO GUIDE US, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE TO STAY IN ACCORDANCE TO THE POWERPOINT SLIDE I WANTED TO GROUND US IS THIS IS A SEPARATE AND IMPORTANT PROCESS AROUND RESETTING OUR GOALS AND CONSTRAINTS.
AS EVERYONE KNOWS, I THINK IT WAS 2019.
WE LAST FULLY REDID OUR GOALS, AND I BELIEVE IN 2020 WE REDID OUR CONSTRAINTS.
AND THIS YEAR IS THE LAST YEAR OF THOSE GOALS AND CONSTRAINTS.
THEY EXPIRE AFTER THE FY 25 SCHOOL YEAR.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE PROCESS TO SET THE NEXT ITERATION, NOT TO CHANGE THESE, BUT TO SET THE NEXT ITERATION OF THE NEXT GOALS AND CONSTRAINTS THAT WE WILL GO FORWARD WITH. PRESIDENT KETEYIAN NOTED THAT HIS HOPE WAS THAT WE DO THIS WORK THROUGH THIS EVALUATION COMMITTEE.
WE ARE SO THANKFUL TO HAVE YOU HERE.
BUT THE GOAL OF WHAT THIS COMMITTEE WORK IS TO DO IS TO DEVELOP A FRAMEWORK FOR HOW WE WILL GATHER COMMUNITY INPUT, DISCUSS AND REVIEW THOSE STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS. AND THEN THIS COMMITTEE SHOULD AGREE TO A FRAMEWORK IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, SO WE CAN BEGIN THE CONVERSATIONS ON THE ACTUAL GOALS BEFORE WINTER BREAK IS KIND OF THE CHARGE WE WERE GIVEN.
HENCE WHY WE NEED COMMUNITY INPUT AND CONSTRAINTS.
ARE THINGS THERE? ACTIONS THAT WE SHOULD NOT PURSUE? GROUNDED IN THE VALUES AS WE PURSUE OUR VISION.
AND OVERALL BASED ON THIS KIND OF HERE'S AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THE PROCESS GENERALLY LOOKS.
AGAIN, AS PER LONE STAR GOVERNANCE, WE CAN KIND OF MODIFY AND ADAPT AS WE SEE FIT HERE.
BUT ESSENTIALLY IT STARTS WITH GETTING COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, WANTS ITS STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO KNOW AND ABLE TO DO BY THE TIME THEY LEAVE US, AS WELL AS WHAT ARE THE VALUES THAT WE CANNOT SACRIFICE IN THE PROCESS.
I THINK OUR CURRENT VALUES ARE THINGS LIKE RACIAL EQUITY, STAFF CULTURE, STUDENT CULTURE, ETC.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, ADMINISTRATION.
WHO ARE THE EXPERTS ON THIS THAT WE HIRE TO DO THIS WORK DAY IN AND DAY OUT, SHOULD BE COMPLETING THEIR OWN ANALYSIS, AS THEY CONTINUALLY DO ABOUT WHAT ARE THE HIGHEST LEVERS THAT WE NEED TO PULL TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THIS DISTRICT FORWARD.
AND FROM THESE TWO PIECES OF INFORMATION, THE BOARD WILL SIT DOWN AND HAVE A DISCUSSION.
AND THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS, I BELIEVE IT WAS A WORKSHOP.
WE HAD FACILITATION FROM THE COUNCIL OF GREAT CITY SCHOOLS.
THE NOTE HERE IS THAT THIS IS THE BOARD TO OWN.
THIS THE BOARD HAS THE ULTIMATE SAY.
BUT THEN THE SUPERINTENDENT TAKES THOSE AND PUTS TOGETHER WHAT THE PROGRESS MEASURES ARE.
WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IN THE MEANTIME THAT ARE GOING TO TELL US IF WE'RE ON TRACK OR NOT, ON TRACK TO ACHIEVING THE GOALS AND CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE SET BY THE BOARD. SO THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD CREATE THOSE PREDICTIVE PROGRESS MEASURES AS WE HAVE THEM FOR BOTH THE GOALS AND THE CONSTRAINTS.
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AND THEN THE BOARD WOULD REVIEW ALL OF THOSE TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY PASS THE SMELL TEST, AND THAT THOSE PROGRESS MEASURES ARE ALIGNED TO WHAT WE'VE SET OUT IN THE GOALS AND THE CONSTRAINTS.AND THEN WE WOULD DO SOME SORT OF ADOPTION.
BUT WE CAN KIND OF MAKE SOME DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT WE NEED.
SO THAT'S A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE SCOPE AND KIND OF WHERE WE COULD GO IN THIS PROCESS.
DIFFERENCE REALLY OPEN FLOOR FROM THIS COMMITTEE.
AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS PROCESS, THE OTHER TWO THINGS WILL MOVE INTO IS KIND OF THINKING ABOUT, WELL, THEN WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO BE TRUE FOR THE COMMUNITY LISTENING PROCESS.
SO I'LL PAUSE THERE AND WOULD INVITE ANY SORT OF FEEDBACK, THOUGHTS OR DISCUSSIONS.
TRUSTEE FOREMAN SO JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IN REGARD TO THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.
ARE WE INITIALLY TAKING OUT WHAT WE BELIEVE SHOULD BE THE CONSTRAINTS TO THE COMMUNITY, OR ARE WE ASKING THE COMMUNITY TO COME UP WITH SOME KINDS OF CONSTRAINTS? THAT'S FOR US TO DECIDE.
BUT MY RECOMMENDATION AND MY THOUGHT AND WHAT LONESTAR GOVERNANCE SAYS IS WE SHOULD GO OUT AND ASK THEM, AND THEY SHOULD INFORM US, AND WE SHOULD JUST SET UP THE QUESTIONS SO THEY CAN TRULY SHARE WHAT THE VISION AND THE VALUES ARE.
AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD DO IS DISTILL THAT INTO THE ACTUAL CONSTRAINTS AS THEY'RE MEANINGFUL FOR THE.
SO WHEN WE DO OUR OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY, IS THAT IN WRITTEN FORM? THAT'S UP TO US TO DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT TODAY.
IT'S INVOLVED COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
LOTS OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT, BUT WE CAN DECIDE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
AND WHEN WE GO TO THE COMMUNITY, WILL WE BE SHARING THE CURRENT GOALS AND CONSTRAINTS SO THAT THEY'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO PULL FROM? I THINK WE CAN AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S UP TO WHAT THIS BOARD WOULD WANT TO DO.
AND THEIR SAY DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT EVERYTHING THAT THE COMMUNITY BRINGS FORTH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO, BUT FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO BUY INTO THE PROCESS OVERALL.
YEAH. AND SO THE NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE IN REGARD TO OUR CONSTRAINTS AND GOALS, WOULD THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE THROUGH THE 2425 SCHOOL YEAR THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
OUR CONSTRAINTS AND GOALS ARE THROUGH THE 2425 SCHOOL YEAR.
SO THIS WOULD BE AFFECTING THE 2526 SCHOOL YEAR.
I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE TOLD TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND IT WILL BE MY INTENT TO SHARE THE FEEDBACK.
BUT WHAT I'VE GOT FROM YOU, TRUSTEE FOREMAN AND LET ME KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING I MISSED HERE, IS NUMBER ONE, WE SHOULD GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY, NOT TO TELL THEM WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT.
NUMBER TWO IS THAT WE SHOULD SHARE THE GOALS AND THE CONSTRAINTS AS WE CURRENTLY HAVE THEM.
THIS IS NOT FOR FY 25 SCHOOL YEAR.
THIS WOULD START FOR THE FOLLOWING SCHOOL YEAR.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. TRUSTEE CURRY.
I'VE GOT TO WORK ON THAT. BUT I WAS JUST ABOUT A PROCESS QUESTION.
UNDERSTANDING THE CHARGE FROM PRESIDENT [INAUDIBLE].
I SAW ON YOUR CHART, DECEMBER IS WHEN IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE PLANNING ON HAVING WORKSHOPS.
SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLETE OUR COMMUNITY FEEDBACK PROCESS PRIOR TO DECEMBER? IS THAT THE GOAL? THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTAND IT.
AND IF THAT'S FEASIBLE, GREAT.
AND IF NOT, THEN WE JUST NEED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
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SENSE OF THE DIRECTION WE WANT THEM TO GO BY DECEMBER, THE SUPERINTENDENT CAN BEGIN PLANNING FOR THE BUDGET TO FOCUS ON THOSE GOALS NEXT YEAR.I ACTUALLY THOUGHT OF A FOLLOW UP QUESTION IF I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S YEAH, ON THE ROBERT'S RULES, IF I GET TO KEEP ASKING, BUT JUST ON THE ON THE SLIDE ROOT CAUSE ANALYSIS, I WONDER IF DOCTOR ELIZALDE COULD TALK ABOUT ME, BOTH OF YOU.
USUALLY TRYING TO FIND THE CAUSE OF SOMETHING.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THE CAUSE OF, SORT OF A DESCRIPTION FOR THE BOARD OF, OF WHAT? THE ADMINISTRATION'S PROCESS WHILE WE WERE OUT TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
SO EACH DEPARTMENT, DEPENDING AGAIN, ON WHAT WE HEAR IN TERMS OF THE DIRECTIONS OF WILL BE USING.
AS TRUSTEE FOREMAN MENTIONED, OUR STARTING POINT WILL BE THE ANALYSIS WILL BE BASED ON WHAT GOALS DO WE HAVE NOW? WHAT CONSTRAINTS DO WE HAVE NOW? AND SO AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE THAT YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT A LITTLE BIT TOMORROW AT LEAST IN A CURSORY MANNER OVER OUR STATE ASSESSMENT DATA WOULD BE AN ANALYSIS OF LET'S SAY THAT WE'RE SEEING COHORT ANALYSIS OF READING LANGUAGE ARTS IMPROVING. SO IT MAY NOT BE IMPROVING FROM YEAR OVER YEAR, BUT WHEN WE THOSE ARE DIFFERENT SETS OF STUDENTS.
BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT THE TEACHERS DID WITH STUDENTS THAT WERE A NEW GROUP OF STUDENTS AND COMPARE THAT TO THEIR PREVIOUS YEAR'S PERFORMANCE, AND WE SEE SOME GROWTH IN SOME AREAS, THEN WHAT ARE THE HIGH LEVERS ON THE ANALYSIS OF THE ACTUAL EXAM AND WHAT IS THE CURRICULUM CALL FOR? HOW DO WE HELP TEACHERS IF THERE'S A PARTICULAR AREA.
SO IT'S A LITTLE IT'S IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO A REAL CAUSE AND EFFECT OBVIOUSLY IN IN EDUCATION.
BUT WE CAN GET REALLY CLOSE TO THE THINGS THAT ARE CORRELATED.
IS IT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A PARTICULAR SOFTWARE INTERVENTION THAT SEEMS TO MEET THAT NEED? SO IDENTIFYING WHAT FIRST, WHAT IS IT? AND THEN WHAT DO WE DO TO MEET THAT NEED.
I WOULD JUST ADD AN EXAMPLE THAT I REMEMBER FROM WHEN WE DID THIS IN 2019.
I THINK IT WAS BASED ON THE DATA THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAD PULLED THAT SAID, AND IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE LITERACY, WE HAVE TO MOVE IT WHERE WE HAVE THE LARGEST GAPS AND WE HAVE HISTORICALLY DISINVESTED IN OUR AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENTS, AND WE NEED TO FOCUS THERE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PROGRESS MEASURES THAT FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON THAT GROUP OF STUDENTS.
BECAUSE IF WE GET IT RIGHT THERE, WE'RE GETTING IT RIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND THE BOARD AGREED FOR THAT.
WHAT CONTEXT WOULD IT BE HELPFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW AS WE GO OUT TO SEEK THEIR FEEDBACK IN ADDITION TO HAVING LAST YEAR'S GOALS? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT TO SAY, WHAT CONTEXT ARE WE LIVING IN THAT THAT IS SIMILAR TO OR DIFFERENT THAN THE LAST TIME WE SET GOALS OR RELEVANT TO OUR CURRENT ENVIRONMENT? WHAT FRAMEWORK CONSISTENT FRAMEWORK WILL WE WANT TO SET UP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SET THE, THE TABLE WELL.
YEAH. AND AGAIN, I, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.
I THINK THAT'S FOR THIS GROUP TO TALK ABOUT, BUT I THINK WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING HERE IS HOWEVER WE GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, LIKE WHAT CONTEXT DO WE NEED TO GIVE THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO ENGAGE FULLY IN THE PROCESS, KNOWING WHAT THE ROLE IS AND HOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE INFORMATION THEY GIVE.
IS THAT ACCURATE? YEAH. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT NOTE.
I DO THINK THAT'S MY FIRST THOUGHT IS JUST BEING CONSISTENT AND LIKE BEING REALLY CLEAR.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET CLEAR ON WHAT QUESTIONS WE WANT TO GO OUT AND ASK THEM IN A WAY THAT TRULY INVITES THEIR FEEDBACK, NOT SAYS LIKE, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT I WANT YOU TO SAY. SO I THINK WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO GET CLEAR ON ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO ASK, WHETHER SURVEY OR NOT.
SO THE TERMS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IT SOUNDS LIKE THE FIRST TIME THE GOALS WERE SET.
WAS THAT A FIVE YEAR PERIOD OR HOW LONG IS IS THAT FOR? I BELIEVE IT'S FIVE YEARS.
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SO THEY SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DONE BASICALLY LIKE EVERY FIVE YEARS.BUT I THINK DUE TO THE CLIMATE THAT WE'RE OPERATING IN WHEN IT COMES TO TEST CHANGES AND MATERIAL CHANGES THAT ARE BROUGHT INTO US FROM TEA.
WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT REEVALUATING THAT.
AND I ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS AS WELL, BECAUSE WHEN YOU MENTION THE FACT THAT WE WERE FOCUSING ON THE LOWEST ACHIEVING DATA SET, AND YOU MENTIONED THAT THEY WERE AFRICAN AMERICANS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAID AFRICAN AMERICAN MALES, BUT I DID HEAR YOU SAY THERE WERE AFRICAN AMERICANS.
AND AS FAR AS THAT IS CONCERNED, MY QUESTIONS I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO SHARE IS HOW EFFECTIVE HAS IT BEEN AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE DOING TO CLOSE THE GAP AND WHAT HAVE WE BEEN DOING TO BASICALLY ELEVATE STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT AND WHAT SPECIAL ARE THERE ANY SPECIAL? TRAININGS OR SPECIAL TRAINING FOR TEACHERS OR AND STUDENTS THAT WE ARE DOING TO HELP THEM ACHIEVE HIGHER GPAS.
GOTCHA. SO I MADE THE NOTE HERE ON EXPLORING THE TIME FRAME.
DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SET FIVE YEAR GOALS? I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WORTH EXPLORING.
WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
DOCTOR ELIZALDE HAS GOT TO DO A WHOLE LOT OF THOSE THINGS.
WHEN WE MONITOR WHAT'S HAPPENING LIKE WE DO EVERY MONTH, WE ACTUALLY DIG INTO THE, ALL RIGHT, WHAT HAVE WE DONE? HOW ARE WE MOVING THAT NEEDLE, ETC..
IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING, DOCTOR ELIZALDE? YES, SIR. SO I THINK ONCE WE SET THEM THEN, THEN THEN THEY HAVE TO ROLL OUT ALL OF THE WORK THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO MOVE THE GOALS THAT WE SET.
BUT I THINK THAT DEFINITELY IN THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS IT NEEDS TO BE I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED SO THAT PARENTS CAN ALSO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, EXPLAIN HOW THE OUTCOMES ALIGN TO THE WORK HAPPENING.
RIGHT. BECAUSE IT, I MEAN, TO HAVE TO CONTINUOUSLY HAVE THE SAME OUTCOMES AND IT'S NOT REALLY MOVING THE NEEDLE.
AND I UNDERSTAND YES, WE DID HAVE COVID BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S OVER.
SO TO EXPLAIN WHAT ARE SOME OF THE FACTORS THAT COULD BE HOLDING BACK THOSE STUDENTS ACHIEVEMENT TO THE PARENTS? BECAUSE OF COURSE, I KNOW THAT TEA SETS THE STANDARDS AS FAR AS WHAT CHILD SHOULD LEARN AT EACH GRADE LEVEL.
I MEAN, YOU CAN GO ON THEIR WEBSITE AND LOOK IT UP.
SAME THING. IF THEY SHOULD BE DOING ADDITION, SUBTRACTION, WHAT HAVE YOU.
THANK YOU. THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL.
TRUSTEE WEINBERG THEN TRUSTEE FOREMAN, JUST A QUICK CLARIFYING QUESTION.
IS THERE ANY CONTEXT IN WHICH WE'RE CONSTRAINED IN SETTING OUR GOALS LEGAL OR LIKE BY STATE STATUTE OR TEA OR ANY OF THAT SORT OF THING? I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY.
I THINK THAT'S PART OF OUR LIKE, DO WE HAVE TO SET A LITERACY GOAL? OH, I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN. THERE IS HB THREE DOES REQUIRE WE SET A THIRD GRADE READING, THIRD GRADE MATH AND A CMR GOAL, BUT THEY DO NOT SPECIFY SPECIFICALLY WHAT THAT MEASURE SHOULD BE.
WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO ACCOUNTABILITY.
BUT THERE IS THE RULE TO HAVE THIRD GRADE LITERACY, THIRD GRADE MATH AND CCMR. IS THAT ACCURATE? AND DOES THE THIRD GRADE LITERACY IS THAT MEASURED? IT DOESN'T SAY IT HAS TO BE MEASURED AGAINST STAAR.
IT JUST SAYS THIRD GRADERS HAVE TO BE ILLITERATE.
I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THING.
WE CAN ASK PEOPLE TO DIG INTO THE LAW.
THEY'RE JUST CURIOUS, JUST SO WE SO WE KNOW WHAT FRAMEWORK WE'RE WORKING WITHIN.
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TRUSTEE FOREMAN, SURE.TRUSTEE WEINBERG I THINK JUST THIS IS JUST FROM MY OPINION THAT WE ARE MEASURED BY STAAR, AND I WOULD NOT WANT TO GET AWAY FROM A STAAR MEASUREMENT PERIOD.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE STATE'S GOING TO LOOK AT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE CONTINUING ON THAT, ON THAT ROLE.
SO I DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT ANY OTHER MEASUREMENT.
TRUSTEE WHITE, ONE OF THE THINGS AND I HAVE TO I PROBABLY DON'T DO THIS OFTEN ENOUGH, BUT THE ADMINISTRATION DID AN EXCELLENT JOB IN MOVING THE NEEDLE FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN CHILDREN.
I ACTUALLY WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT PROBABLY PUSHED THEM OVER THE RAIL.
THEY PROBABLY GOT SICK OF ME SAYING THAT.
AND THAT'S DOCUMENTED EVEN IN THIS LAST STAAR TEST, IS THAT AFRICAN AMERICAN CHILDREN, NOT MALES OR FEMALES, AFRICAN AMERICAN CHILDREN.
NOW, A LOT OF THAT TOOK PLACE BASED ON RESOURCES.
THAT WOMAN OVER THERE IS PROBABLY SICK OF ME BECAUSE IT WAS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THAT ONE.
IT WAS ALWAYS ASKING FOR RESOURCES FOR CAMPUSES THAT WHERE WE SAW THERE WAS A GREAT NEED.
NOW WE'VE GOT ANOTHER GROUP OF CHILDREN THAT WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK AND TRY TO HAVE CONSTRAINTS THAT WILL MOVE THE NEEDLE WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY SLIPPED IN THIS LAST STAAR TEST. SO THERE'S BEEN SOME EXCELLENT MOVEMENT, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO DO MORE.
AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CONSTRAINTS, WE STILL NEED TO LOOK AT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CHILDREN.
BUT WE'VE GOT ANOTHER SUBSET NOW THAT ARE GOING BACKWARDS.
SO WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT HOW WE MOVE THEM FORWARD ALSO.
THANK YOU. TRUSTEE FOREMAN TRUSTEE CURRY? BEFORE I GO, I WANT TO ALLOW TRUSTEE TURNER.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.
I'VE BEEN REMISS IN LOOKING OVER TO THE SCREEN.
FEEL FREE TO COME OFF MUTE OR JUST STAY SILENT IF YOU DON'T MIND.
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO TO TRUSTEE CURRY.
I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR KIDS GO TO COLLEGE.
IF THEY WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE, THEY HAVE JOBS, THAT SORT OF THING.
BUT BUT THE REAL REASON I CLICKED THE BUTTON WAS, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER THING I WOULD THINK THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE AWARE OF WHEN WE ARE GOING TO THEM, IS A SORT OF HIGH LEVEL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR PROGRAMS ARE.
AND SO WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO TIE OUR PROGRAMS TO SOME OF OUR GOALS.
AND, AND IF THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THOSE GOALS LOOK LIKE, THEY OUGHT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, OTHER WAYS THAT REFLECT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, WHICH IS WHERE WE'VE INVESTED OUR TIME AND OUR DOLLARS.
I'LL TAKE A MOMENT AND GIVE SOME THOUGHTS THAT I HAVE.
I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK WE WOULD HAVE SEEN THE MOVEMENT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE IT EXPLICITLY WRITTEN IN HERE, HAVE IT REPORTED ON ALL THE TIME, AND HAVE IT TIED DIRECTLY TO THE SUPERINTENDENT'S EVALUATION, REGARDLESS OF WHO IT IS.
AND SO I THINK THAT ENCAPSULATES THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS PROCESS AND US TO GET IT RIGHT, NOT ONLY THE MEASURES OF WHAT WE DECIDE TO FOCUS ON, BUT ALSO WHOM WE DECIDE TO CALL OUT AS THIS IS OUR HIGHEST FOCUS.
SO I THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
I TO TRUSTEE WHITE AND CURRY'S POINT AROUND HOW DO WE SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY, LIKE HERE ARE OUR GOALS AND I THINK, HOW DO WE CASCADE? LIKE, HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE WE HAD THESE GOALS.
HERE WERE SOME FOCUSES THAT WE DID TO KIND OF EXPLAIN HOW THIS RELATES TO THE WORK OF THE DISTRICT.
I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
I WOULD SAY I MIGHT VIEW IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
TRUSTEE KERR AS WELL. THERE SHOULD BE SOME MEASURE OF EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING.
I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON THE BOARD TO PRIORITIZE WHAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES.
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BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND OUR TIME BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.I THINK PRIORITIZATION IS CRITICAL.
AND THE WAY THAT I'VE STARTED TO THINK ABOUT THIS IS IF WE ADD A GOAL, IT'S NOT ABOUT ADDING A GOAL.
YOU'RE ACTUALLY TAKING AWAY FOCUS ON THE OTHER THINGS.
SO IF WE HAVE JUST THE THREE MATH, ENGLISH AND CMR AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR THAT, BUT IF THOSE ARE THE THREE WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE AND WE HAVE THEM AS SOON AS WE ADD A FOURTH, WE TAKE AWAY FOCUS ON THE OTHER ONES THAT WE SPEND.
SO I THINK THAT'S A BALANCE THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER.
AND THAT'S JUST MY PERSPECTIVE ON THAT.
THIS WAS SUPER. I'M TAKING A TON OF NOTES.
I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE IT ALL FOR US HERE.
AND TOMORROW WHEN WE MEET WITH THE WHOLE BOARD AS WELL.
SO I CLICK THE BUTTON TO RESPOND A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT YOU SAID.
I THINK I THINK I THINK IT'S A GREAT POINT.
ONE THING THAT WOULD HELP ME AS A DECISION MAKER, AND THUS I THINK MIGHT HELP THE COMMUNITY, IS HAVING A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OR UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE FOCUSING OUR RESOURCES, ALMOST A BUDGET TYPE ISSUE TO WHERE IF WE ARE, IF WE ARE SPENDING MOST OF OUR RESOURCES ON FIVE THINGS OVER HERE, BUT OUR GOALS ARE ON THESE FIVE THINGS OVER HERE, THAT MAY BE THE RIGHT ANSWER, BUT I WOULD WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT CONNECTION.
AND I WOULD THINK IF WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF OUR TIME AND FOCUS IN CERTAIN AREAS, THOSE ARE THE ONES I WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT MORE CAREFULLY ON WHETHER THEY'RE ONE OF OUR TOP FIVE PRIORITIES OR NOT.
WHETHER THEY END UP BEING OR NOT, THAT'S WHAT THE DISCUSSION IS FOR.
WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN DO WE REVISIT OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES? WHEN DO WE REVISIT WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE STILL A PRIORITY? MY THOUGHT WOULD BE WE SHOULD SET THE EXPECTATIONS AND THE GOALS BASED ON WHAT WE THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT, AND THEN IT SHOULD BE THE ADMINISTRATION'S JOB TO RESPOND.
BY ADDRESSING, DO WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES? DO WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR BUDGET ALLOCATIONS TO ACHIEVE THOSE, RATHER THAN SETTING OUR GOALS BASED ON BUDGET.
I THINK THOSE THINGS SHOULD FOLLOW WHAT WE SET.
IT WOULD BE MY THOUGHT ON THAT, BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
I AGREE THAT, LIKE MAYBE THERE IS SOME SORT OF BUDGET ANALYSIS AROUND THIS.
LIKE HOW HAVE WE ALLOCATED OUR BUDGET TOWARDS OUR GOALS IN THE PREVIOUS CYCLE? TRUSTEE KERR, DO YOU STILL HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON? I TURN IT BACK ON BECAUSE I GODSPEED.
THEN WE'LL GO TO WEINBERG AND FOREMAN.
I TURN IT BACK ON BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THIS COMMITTEE THAT GOES THROUGH THIS PROCESS OR NOT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT OUR VISION AND MISSION, WHICH I DON'T THINK HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT IN A LONG TIME.
OUR MISSION IS EDUCATING ALL STUDENTS FOR SUCCESS.
I LIKE THE WORDING OF BOTH OF THOSE, BUT I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHAT A PREMIER DISTRICT IS.
AND ARE THERE OTHER AND BETTER WAYS TO DEFINE THAT? AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION NOW, BUT I AM RAISING, HEY, IF WE'RE DOING THIS, MAYBE WE OUGHT TO BRING THAT INTO THE DISCUSSION AS WELL AND TALK TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT IT. THAT MAKES SENSE.
WHAT I, WHAT I HEARD WAS THAT OR WHAT I THINK IS THAT MAYBE PART OF THE FRAMEWORK OR CONTEXT THAT WE PROVIDE AS WE GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY IS WE SET THESE GOALS. HERE'S WHERE WE ARE, HERE'S HOW WE'VE ALLOCATED OUR MONEY.
THIS IS SORT OF THIS IS WHAT IS TODAY.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING TO TOMORROW.
AND WE'RE ASKING YOU THESE QUESTIONS TO HELP US UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT YOUR POSITION IS TO GET TO.
SO, IT'S SOME OF THAT FRAMEWORK I THINK IS HEALTHY AND HELPFUL TO KIND OF LEVEL SET FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WE GO OUT.
WHERE I HEARD SOME SHARED A LONG WAY AWAY, BUT WE'RE STILL HUGGING.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS, AND I THINK THE SUPERINTENDENT CAN ATTEST TO THIS, I'M ALWAYS THE STICK IN THE MUD WHEN IT COMES TO OUR BUDGET PRIORITIES BECAUSE I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY IF WE'VE GOT GOING TO HAVE STRATEGIC INITIATIVES, THEY SHOULD CORRELATE WITH OUR CONSTRAINTS, BUT THEY DON'T ALWAYS.
AND FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS, I'VE BEEN THE ONE THAT HAVE QUESTIONED THAT OFTEN.
IN TERMS OF STRATEGIC INITIATIVES AND HOW LONG DO WE CONTINUE TO FUND CERTAIN STRATEGIC INITIATIVES?
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IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR BUDGETS, PROBABLY THE LAST NINE YEARS, WE MIGHT HAVE HAD THE SAME EXTRA FUNDING FOR STRATEGIC INITIATIVES, AND I'VE ALWAYS QUESTIONED THAT.SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO TIE THAT INTO WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO.
AND SO I THINK AND YOU AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, AND I THINK IT IS A PERFECT TIME FOR US TO EVEN REVISIT HOW WE WHAT HAS TRADITIONALLY ALWAYS BEEN LIKE.
HERE'S THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVES AND THEN WHERE THE FUNDING WAS.
AND RATHER THAN HAVING IT EVEN SEPARATE, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T HAVE PRIORITIES, BECAUSE OUR PRIORITIES SHOULD ABSOLUTELY CONNECT WITH WHAT GOALS YOU ALL GIVE US, RIGHT? THE GOALS AND THE CONSTRAINTS AND THEN OUR PLAN.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO ALIGN THAT PLAN TO MORE DIRECTLY TO THE GOALS.
I THINK THEY'RE THERE, BUT THEY'RE KIND OF IT'S A SCATTER PLOT.
AND WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM MANY OF YOU SOME LONGER THAN OTHERS THAT I'VE HEARD IS LIKE, THIS NEEDS TO BE MORE DIRECTLY CONNECTED.
WHATEVER IT IS THIS BOARD AGREES TO WHAT? WHATEVER THAT IS, OUR JOB IS TO BE, AGAIN, VERY TIGHTLY CONNECTED FOR THIS GOAL.
AND THEN ACTUALLY TRUSTEE CURRY, TO YOUR POINT.
AND HERE'S WHERE IT IS IN THE BUDGET.
AND THE CLOSER WE CAN GET THOSE THREE, I THINK NOT JUST CERTAINLY FOR THIS BOARD, BUT THEN YOUR, OUR COMMUNITY CAN SEE THE CONNECTIVITY AND THEN WE CAN THEN EVALUATE AS WE BRING YOU GROWTH PROGRESS MEASURES OR CONSTRAINT MEASURES.
ARE WE WHICH IS THE QUESTION WE ALL ASK, ARE WE GETTING OUTCOMES WITH THIS INVESTMENT.
AND IF WE ARE GREAT, DO WE NEED TO DO MORE OF IT? IF WE'RE NOT, WHY NOT? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S THE OTHER THING.
SOMETIMES IT'S WELL, WHY ISN'T IT WORKING? IS IT AN IMPLEMENTATION ISSUE? IS IT A STAFFING ISSUE? DO WE HAVE THIS GREAT PRIORITY? BUT WE DIDN'T STAFF IT PROPERLY.
AND IF IT ISN'T WORKING AS AGAIN, WE'LL SEE SOME THINGS TOMORROW THAT I KNOW MANY OF YOU HAVE ALREADY LOOKED AT, BUT IT WILL ALLOW US TO SAY WHAT IS IT SPECIFICALLY THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE? IS IT THE WHOLE THING? IS IT PART OF IT? IS IT AT SOME SCHOOLS, BUT NOT AT ALL SCHOOLS? WHERE IS THE SPECIFIC DATA TELLING US WHAT'S WORKING? AND IF IT ISN'T, WHAT DO WE DO? AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ABSOLUTELY.
WE DEFINITELY ARE COMMITTED TO ENSURING THAT WE DO THAT PROCESS IN THAT, IN THAT MANNER.
TRUSTEE WEINBERG ALSO, BRIEFLY, I AGREE THAT AFFIRMING THE VISION IN THE MISSION IS A GOOD IDEA JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S SORT OF WHAT YOU DRIVE ALL THE GOALS THROUGH AND AROUND.
FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I CONCUR.
I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO GET A BUNCH OF FEEDBACK FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND WE'RE GOING TO REALLY MAKE IT A POINT TO DO THAT AND GET A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD HOPE FOR THEIR STUDENTS ACROSS THE DISTRICT.
TRUSTEE WHITE? AND, YOU KNOW, I'M SITTING HERE THINKING FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN HEARING AND IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL, I FEEL, TO DO AN ASSESSMENT BY SCHOOL TO SEE WHERE EACH OF THE SCHOOLS ARE.
AND OF COURSE, I KNOW WE'RE DOING A COLLECTIVE ASSESSMENT THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, BUT I THINK THAT THAT WILL DEFINITELY HELP US HONE IN ON WHERE IS THE PROBLEM. AND LIKE WITH WHAT WAS MENTIONED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT, IS IT IS IT STAFFING? IS IT, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE NOT MEETING THE GOALS? IS IT STAFFING? WHAT IS IT? IS IT THE LACK OF RESOURCES? WHAT? WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
BUT I THINK THAT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP ANSWER SOME OF THE COMMUNITY'S QUESTIONS AS WELL TO GET IT.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, EVEN IF BECAUSE, YES, I WAS JUST MENTIONING MY HIGH SCHOOLS ARE HAVING SOME PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW, AND IF WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP IN THE AREAS WHERE THEY'RE LACKING, THAT WILL BE GREAT FOR EVERYONE.
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I WOULD SEE THAT AS DEFINITELY PART OF THIS ADMINISTRATION ROOT CAUSE ANALYSIS TO KIND OF GO THROUGH AND SUGGEST WHEN WE COME BACK TOGETHER.HERE'S WHAT WE NOTICE AS WE REVIEW THE DATA, AS YOU ALWAYS DO, BUT PUT IT IN THIS FORMAT TO KIND OF ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE THAT WE CAN CONSIDER ALONGSIDE WHAT THE COMMUNITY SAYS THEY'VE WANTED. THAT MAKES SENSE.
IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ANYTHING ON THIS, GENERALLY I'M GOING TO.
AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT A TIMELINE IF IT MAKES SENSE.
BUT IT'S BEEN ECHOED PRETTY CLEAR.
SO I WANT TO JUST OPEN UP THE FLOOR.
IF OUR COMMUNITY LISTENING IS TO BE ROBUST AND MEANINGFUL, LIKE HOW MANY MEETINGS DO WE NEED TO HAVE? WHERE DO THOSE MEETINGS NEED TO BE, ETC.? WHAT GUARDRAILS SHOULD WE PLACE ON THIS PROCESS TO MAKE SURE IT'S CONSISTENT? THAT ONE COMMUNITY DOESN'T HEAR ONE THING AND ANOTHER COMMUNITY HEAR SOMETHING ELSE.
SO IT IS A CONSISTENT ACROSS OUR ENTIRE WIDER DALLAS COMMUNITY.
HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE HEAR FROM A REPRESENTATIVE SET OF ENTIRE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST POCKETS OR NOT JUST PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHOW UP, BUT ACTUALLY GO OUT AND GET FEEDBACK FROM THE WIDER COMMUNITY.
HOW DO WE MAKE IT A POINT TO ACTIVELY ENGAGE AND PARTNER WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE CITY IN THIS PROCESS? THAT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. SO THOSE ARE JUST FOR STARTING POINT QUESTIONS.
I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR PEOPLE'S FEEDBACK.
TRUSTEE FOREMAN. SO I'LL START WITH A COMMUNITY PROCESS.
I THINK WE LIVE IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, AND SO IT IS NOT ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE SAME WAY THAT WE PRESENTED IN COMMUNITIES.
GIVING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO ENGAGE THEMSELVES.
AND IN THAT PROCESS, THERE SHOULD BE A STAFF MEMBER FROM THE DISTRICT WORKING WITH THE TRUSTEE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK. SO, I'M PROBABLY THE ONE THAT WOULD GET OUTSIDE OF THE FRAMEWORK.
BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK AND HAVE A SET OF QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN ASK THE COMMUNITY IN REGARD TO THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK.
AND YOU SAID SOMETHING ELSE, AND I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS.
SORRY. I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN TO PRINT THIS OUT.
MY APOLOGIES. TRUSTEE FOREMAN.
COME AND SAVE THE DAY. YOU KNOW, PAM, YOU JUST GOT OFF THE LIST.
THE ONE THAT I WAS MOST INTERESTED IN IS COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, WHERE I HAVE SOME CONCERN IS THAT SOME PEOPLE CALL THEMSELVES A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION.
I DON'T QUITE CALL THEM A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION.
WE HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL AS WE GO INTO THIS PROCESS.
I DON'T WANT SOME PEOPLE COMING IN TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE PROCESS.
NOW, SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE IN OUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS TOO, BUT THEY SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE THEIR OWN MEETING TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE PARTICULAR ISSUES SO THAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE IN SAYING ALL THE THINGS THEY NEED TO SAY.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE US HAVE THESE ONE AND TWO PEOPLE OPERATIONS COMING IN AND CALLING THEMSELVES A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION AND TRYING TO RUN ROUGHSHOD OVER WHAT WE DO.
THAT'S JUST NOT FOR ME, A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION.
AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE CHURCHES AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND NONPROFITS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
I DON'T WANT THEM TO TRY TO RUN ROUGHSHOD OVER THIS WHOLE PROCESS, BUT I AM IN 100% BEHIND MAKING SURE THAT OUR TEACHERS UNIONS AND WE ALSO HAVE EXECUTIVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ADMINISTRATORS.
THEY SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS ALSO.
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TRUSTEE FOREMAN TRUSTEE CURRY FOLLOWED BY TRUSTEE WHITE.JUST BRIEFLY, I JUST WANT TO ECHO TRUSTEE FOREMAN'S COMMENTS ABOUT UNIONS, BUT JUST COMMUNITY GROUPS IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE YOU DON'T WANT TO OVERDO IT WITH TOO MANY MEETINGS TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THEM ALL.
INVITE THEM ALL TO COME AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE.
I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT THAT WAY.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO THINK ABOUT DOING IT, ALONG WITH I THINK WE NEED GEOGRAPHIC MEETINGS AS WELL, BUT SOME TARGETED FOCUSES ON SPECIFIC CONSTITUENCIES I THINK WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL. THANK YOU.
TRUSTEE CURRY. TRUSTEE. THANK YOU.
TRUSTEE CURRY. TRUSTEE WHITE OKAY.
SO I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION FOR TRUSTEE FOREMAN.
YOU'RE DEFINING ROUGH SHOTS AS SOMEONE WHO'S COMING IN TO BE BOISTEROUS.
WHAT IS A ROUGH SHOT? NOT BOISTEROUS, BUT SOME PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY ARE EDUCATIONAL EXPERTS COMING IN AND TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE MEETINGS AND BRINGING IN JUST THEIR FORM OF DOING IT.
I THINK LANCE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IN THAT WE SHOULD HAVE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS ALL COME TOGETHER AS OPPOSED TO ONE, ONE LITTLE GROUP COMING IN AND SAYING, THIS IS WHAT I WANT.
THEN ANOTHER LITTLE GROUP COMING IN AND RUNNING ROUGHSHOD IS TAKING OVER WHEN YOU CAN.
THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY WE DO IT IN SOUTH DALLAS.
OH, WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT THAT.
WE, WE WE REALLY WANT STAKEHOLDERS TO HAVE A LARGE SAYING IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
OKAY, I MEAN, I BUT AND AT THE SAME TIME I GUESS WHILE YOU WERE SPEAKING, I WAS ALSO THINKING THAT WOVEN WITHIN A LOT OF OUR POLICY, WE INVITE STAKEHOLDERS AND COMMUNITY AND SOME OF THESE PEOPLE IN THESE ORGANIZATIONS COULD ALSO HAVE YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, AND I THINK YOU MAY BE SAYING THE SAME THING, ALL ARE WELCOME BECAUSE YOU DON'T JUST WANT LIKE THE, THE LEADERSHIP, MAYBE BECAUSE YOU COULD BE IN A NONPROFIT AND HAVE A KID IN THE DISTRICT AND YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A A RIGHT TO BE THERE, WHETHER YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, A BUSINESS, A UNION, CLERGY, WHAT HAVE YOU.
BECAUSE WE KNOW A LOT OF A LOT OF OUR TEACHERS ARE UNION MEMBERS AND THEY HAVE A SAY.
AND IT'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING A SEPARATE MEETING FOR THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
BECAUSE THERE'S DEFINITELY A COUPLE OF GROUPS THAT I KNOW THAT YEAH, THAT THAT MAY NOT HAPPEN.
THEY'RE TRYING TO UNDERMINE PUBLIC SCHOOLS OR SOMETHING.
SO, YEAH, I MEAN, I GET THAT, BUT ALSO, WHILE I WAS THINKING ANOTHER SUBJECT WHILE I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS, I WAS THINKING THAT IN A WAY, I WAS THINKING FEEDER PATTERNS.
SO SOME OF THEM ARE SO SPREAD APART THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU WHAT? YOU REALLY, TRULY DO THAT BECAUSE LIKE I WAS SAYING, ONE OF OUR MEETINGS WAS HELD AT SKYLINE AND THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR MY DISTRICT AND ANOTHER DISTRICT, BUT MY PEOPLE WERE WAY OVER IN SEAGOVILLE HAVING TO DRIVE INTO SKYLINE FOR THE MEETING.
IF WE DID IT BY TRUSTEE DISTRICT, THAT MIGHT WORK.
BUT THEN WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE FACT AND I LOOK AT HOW HUMONGOUS MAX'S DISTRICT IS, HE REALLY PROBABLY NEEDS TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO MEETINGS BECAUSE HE HAS PEOPLE FROM WILMER-HUTCHINS ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE PINKSTON HIGH SCHOOL AREA.
IS THAT NOT RIGHT IN WEST DALLAS? SO THAT'S A THAT'S A LARGE LAND MASS.
CAN I? I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.
I'M NOT FOR WHOEVER. THANK YOU.
CAN WE GO TO TRUSTEE WEINBERG AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK? YES. I JUST WANTED TO, I HAVE TWO ONE IN IN RESPONSE TO THAT.
ONE THING I THINK IF WE HAVE THE SCHEDULE OF MEETINGS SET OUT, ONE THING THAT COMES FROM I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, WE NEED GEOGRAPHIC DIVERSITY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SHOW UP AND ALSO DIFFERENT TIMES SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SHOW UP TO ANOTHER MEETING TO, TO EXPRESS THEIR VOICE.
SO IF THEY CAN'T MAKE IT TO THIS ONE, THEY CAN MAKE IT TO THAT ONE.
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SO I THINK THAT WILL SOLVE SOME OF THAT.BUT WHAT MY QUESTION WAS WHEN I ORIGINALLY TURNED ON MY MIC WAS HOW DID YOU ALL GATHER STUDENT VOICE, OR DID YOU CONSIDER STUDENT VOICE IN THE 2019 PROCESS? AND IS THAT SOMETHING TO CONSIDER? I'LL SPEAK. FROM WHAT I REMEMBER, I WAS VERY NEW ON THE BOARD THEN.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE DID ANY SORT OF COMMUNITY VOICE.
SO I THINK THIS IS A VERY NEW PROCESS IN THAT ASPECT.
BUT MIGHT IT BE INTERESTING TO SURVEY AT LEAST OR, OR MIGHT, MIGHT IT BE WORTH CONSIDERING SOME WAY OF JUST UNDERSTANDING STUDENT VOICE? YEAH, I THINK SO.
TRUSTEE FOREMAN ACTUALLY, WE WERE GUIDED BY THE COUNCIL OF GREAT CITY SCHOOLS IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS, STARTING OUT BACK IN WHEN? 15, 2016.
YOU CAN'T TELL IN 2016 BECAUSE I CAN REMEMBER IT ALL.
BUT SO WE WERE WE WERE GUIDED IN A DIRECTION BY THE COUNCIL OF GREAT CITY SCHOOLS, WHO HELPED US TO COME UP WITH THE FRAMEWORK TO START WITH, BASED ON A MANDATE FROM TEA.
TRUSTEE FOREMAN TRUSTEE CURRY I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT YOU HIGHLIGHTED STUDENTS, WHICH WAS TRUSTEE WEINBERG, WHICH WAS WHEN I WAS GOING TO HIGHLIGHT YOU KNOW, JUST OTHER GROUPS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, I THINK THE UNIONS WILL CAPTURE A LOT OF TEACHERS, BUT NOT ALL.
SO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A ROBUST ONE SO THAT WE CAN GET AS MANY TEACHERS AS WE CAN.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING FROM OUR OUR CUSTODIAN STAFF TO OUR BUS DRIVERS.
SO THERE WILL BE LIMITATIONS IN TERMS OF HOW MANY MEETINGS WE CAN HAVE.
BUT LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT LEAVING OUT KEY COGS IN THE IN OUR PROCESS TO TRY TO HELP KIDS.
FEEL FREE TO JUMP OFF MUTE AND JUST TELL US YOU GOT THINGS TO ADD.
SO JUST A QUICK SUMMARY OF KIND OF THE BIG NOTES THAT I'VE TAKEN.
AGAIN, I'LL PUT THESE ON SOME SORT OF SLIDES THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH THE FULL BOARD TOMORROW AND GET WIDER FEEDBACK ON IS, FIRST OF ALL, FROM TRUSTEE FOREMAN THE SPECIFICS AROUND SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST ONE OPEN MEETING IN EACH DISTRICT AND ONE VIRTUAL MEETING.
AND THEN THE POINT THAT TRUSTEE WHITE BROUGHT UP AROUND ALSO THINKING ABOUT GEOGRAPHIC PROXIMITY, IF DISTRICTS ARE WIDELY DIFFERENT SIZES, SHOULD WE CONSIDER LOCATIONS THAT MIGHT BE IN THE SAME DISTRICT, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE SO BIG THAT PEOPLE HAVE A MEETING THAT THEY CAN GET TO CLOSE BY HAVING A COHERENT SET OF QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK. SO THERE IS SOME CONSISTENCY THERE, EVEN THOUGH TRUSTEES ARE, YOU KNOW, MIGHT HAVE TO RESPOND DIFFERENTLY TO ORGANIZATIONS, HAVING A STAFF MEMBER TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT THE FRAMEWORK IS FOLLOWED, THAT PERSONALLY, I THINK THE BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD RUN THESE MEETINGS THINKING ABOUT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS TO ENGAGE INSTEAD OF INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS.
GROUPS AND THE GROUPS THAT I'VE HEARD BROUGHT UP ARE TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATORS, STUDENTS, STAFF, NONPROFITS, BUSINESS, AND THEN THE TEACHER ADMIN GROUPS THEMSELVES KIND OF SEPARATE, BUT I'M SURE THERE'S SOME OTHERS WE CAN GET SOME THOUGHTS AROUND.
ONE, ONE THOUGHT I HAVE ON THIS THAT I THINK WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT IS THAT THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AREN'T HOSTED BY ONE TRUSTEE, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY HOSTED BY TWO TRUSTEES.
I KNOW WHAT MY COMMUNITY REACHES OUT TO ME ABOUT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY POWERFUL FOR ME TO JOIN YOU, TRUSTEE WHITE, IN YOUR DISTRICT AND HEAR WHAT YOUR COMMUNITY IS TALKING ABOUT, AND YOU TO JOIN TRUSTEE CURRY AND TRUSTEE CURRY TO JOIN OTHER FOLKS SO WE CAN ACTUALLY HEAR FROM OUTSIDE OF OUR REGION AND HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
AND IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR COMMUNITY TO SAY, OH, THERE'S MULTIPLE TRUSTEES HERE LISTENING TO ME.
SO THAT WOULD BE ONE THING THAT I THINK WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT IN THIS PROCESS.
I'D EVEN BE FINE WITH NO MEETINGS IN MY DISTRICT.
SO THAT JUST IS MY $0.02 THERE.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON COMMUNITY LISTENING? ALL RIGHT. THAT'S SOME GREAT STUFF.
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SO THEN GOING BACK, IF WE HAVE BUILT A PROCESS THAT KIND OF ENGAGES THAT AND I'LL KIND OF PUT THAT ALL ON PAPER, WE CAN SHARE IT WITH THE BOARD TOMORROW AND GET FEEDBACK ON IT.I GUESS THE REAL QUESTION IS IF WE'RE AIMING SOMETIME IN DECEMBER TO HAVE THIS MEETING, TO LOOK AT WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS PUT TOGETHER FOR ROOT CAUSE ANALYSIS AND THE DATA ANALYSIS AND ALL THE THINGS, AS WELL AS WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID.
SO WE NEED SOME TIME AFTER THE COMMUNITY LISTENING PROCESS WRAPS UP TO KIND OF ANALYZE THAT DATA, WHETHER IT'S CECILIA'S TEAM OR WE DECIDE TO HIRE THE COUNCIL OF GREAT CITY SCHOOLS OR SOMEONE LIKE THAT TO COME IN AND KIND OF DO SOME OF THIS WORK, THAT COULD BE A CHOICE WE HAVE.
THE REAL QUESTION IS WHEN WOULD WE BE AIMING? WHEN DO WE THINK IT'S FEASIBLE TO THINK ABOUT THIS PROCESS BASED ON WHERE WE'RE AT NOW OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS IN AUGUST, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER TO REALLY PLAY WITH IF WE'RE GOING TO COME INTO THIS IN DECEMBER.
I'D BE OPEN TO ANY THOUGHTS THERE.
IF YOU WANT TO GET WITHIN 20 MINUTES OF EVERYONE WITHIN.
THIS IS A. THAT WAS JUST A, I JUST THREW THAT OUT.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS A MATH PROBLEM.
HOW MANY MEETINGS IS THAT? IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE GEOGRAPHY, I MEAN I WONDER HOW MANY, HOW MANY BECAUSE THAT THAT WOULD MATTER TO SOME EXTENT.
LIKE HOW? BECAUSE YOU SEE, IT'S KIND OF A TIGHT TIMELINE, RIGHT? SO, IS IT NINE MEETINGS.
IS IT 15 MEETINGS? WHAT I HEARD IS YEAH, 9 TO 15.
SO EACH TRUSTEE DOING TWO MEETINGS POTENTIALLY.
LET'S CALL IT A MAXIMUM TO START THERE.
RIGHT. SO THAT'S THREE MONTHS.
YEAH. IF WE START IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER.
YEAH. JUST FROM A FRAMEWORK PERSPECTIVE, THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD NEED TO KIND OF GET OURSELVES IN ORDER AND HAVE THE QUESTIONS AND THE FRAMEWORK AND THE THOUGHT PROCESS, THE SCRIPT, IF YOU WILL, KIND OF BEFORE THAT POINT.
I GUESS I MEAN, TO ME, I GUESS I WAS LOOKING TO TO HAVE AS MUCH TIME AS POSSIBLE SINCE DECEMBER IS HERE TO PUT DECEMBER, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER PLANNING. I MEAN, WHEN YOU.
YES. AND IF WE WANT TO ASK TO HAVE CONSISTENCY, TO HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS FOR EVERYBODY AND SCRIPTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU WE GOT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN IN THIS MONTH, I GUESS EVEN WHILE WE'RE HAVING OUR MEETINGS.
WELL, THE MEETINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH THIS COMMITTEE AND ONCE WE GET THAT INFORMATION, ONCE THAT INFORMATION, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR THEM TO DO THAT.
WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE SCHOOL CALENDARS.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S PLANNED BEFORE WE START.
SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO LOOK AT SCHOOLS CALENDARS, OUR CALENDARS TO SEE YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT WOULD BE GOOD DATES TO SET FOR THESE MEETINGS? BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE TO WORK WITH.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST HAVE A GOOD THREE WEEKS OR SO TO GET IT OUT.
GET IT OUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, TO HIT THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE COMING.
AND ALSO WITHIN THE MIDST OF THIS I JUST THERE'S NOVEMBER 5TH COMING AND THAT'S ELECTION AND THAT'S GOING TO BE AND THAT'S EARLY VOTING AND ALL THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON.
SO IT'S A LOT HAPPENING PERIOD.
THAT I JUST THINK WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU. WHAT I HEARD OUT OF THAT IS MORE TIME THE BETTER.
AS SOMEONE WHO'S NEVER PARTICIPATED IN A BOARD WORKSHOP BEFORE, WHEN DO THEY TYPICALLY HAPPEN? I MEAN, DO THEY HAPPEN AFTER A BRIEFING? WOULD IT BE THE WEEK OF THE 8TH THROUGH THE 14TH? WELL, I THINK THAT'S UP TO THE BOARD.
I THINK PAM WOULD TELL YOU IT IS WHEN WE CAN GET PEOPLE ON THE CALENDAR.
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THE ONLY I THINK WE'VE DONE WORKSHOPS LIKE THIS.MAYBE TWO TIMES OUTSIDE OF OUR REGULAR TEAM BUILDING.
IT'S USUALLY BEEN, I THINK IN 2019 IT WAS FOR THREE HOURS BEFORE A BOARD MEETING.
I THINK IT WAS A BUDGET WORKSHOP ON APRIL 2ND.
I REMEMBER WHAT TIME EXACTLY? YEP, YEP. YEAH.
BUT I THINK IF WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE IF WE'RE GOING TO SHOOT FOR DECEMBER.
AND WHAT I HEARD FROM THIS IS LIKE, IF WE CAN START AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE IN SEPTEMBER AND GO THROUGH PROBABLY THANKSGIVING BREAK BEFOREHAND, AND THEN WE'LL AIM TO HAVE THE FIRST WORKSHOP TO REVIEW IT ALL IN DECEMBER.
AND THEN I THINK YOU'VE MENTIONED IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS OR OTHERS, BUT SOMEONE SMARTER THAN ME NEEDS TO, LIKE, TAKE ALL THIS INFORMATION AND MAKE IT INTO SOMETHING WE CAN ANALYZE AND USE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE AS THE BOARD HIRE SOMEBODY TO DO THAT, BUT I WOULD CERTAINLY BE OPEN TO THAT.
YEAH. MY GUESS IS WE CAN, AND WE HAVE IN THE PAST, I THINK IT'S USUALLY AT A VERY LOW COST.
SO, I DON'T KNOW IF ADMINISTRATION JUST WANTS TO LOOK INTO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
AND THEN. WE CAN MAKE A DECISION ON THAT.
THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? ALL RIGHT, WELL, THAT BRINGS US TO 4.04, WHICH IS OUR NEXT STEPS.
WHAT I'M PLANNING ON DOING BASED ON ALL OF THIS FEEDBACK THAT PEOPLE SHARED, IS I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE ALL OF THIS AND KIND OF PUT IT INTO SLIDES HERE THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH THE FULL BOARD TOMORROW AT THE BRIEFING AND ESSENTIALLY ASK THEM THESE QUESTIONS.
HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AS IT RELATES TO WHAT WE THINK COMMUNITY LISTENING HAS TO BE.
DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY DIFFERENT THOUGHTS OR DOES THIS MAKE SENSE? DID WE FORGET ANY GROUPS IN THE LISTING THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH THUS FAR? AND WE'LL GET FEEDBACK ON THOSE.
AND THEN WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED, NOT THE WEEK AFTER, BUT THE WEEK AFTER THAT, BEFORE THE NIGHT MEETING, I BELIEVE, WHERE WE CAN TAKE ANY FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM THE BOARD, LOOK AT IT AGAIN, AND THEN TAKE THE NEXT STEPS, WHETHER IT'S DESIGNING THE QUESTIONS WE'RE GOING TO ASK, CODIFYING WHICH OF THE GROUPS WE'RE GOING TO LIKE, WHAT ARE THE NIGHTS WE'RE GOING TO BRING THOSE GROUPS TOGETHER IN HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SHARE.
HERE'S WHAT OUR CURRENT GOALS ARE, AND HERE'S THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE ALIGNED WITH IT.
SO I THINK THOSE ARE THE NEXT STEPS.
I DID WANT TO JUST OPEN IT UP THOUGH.
IF ANYONE ELSE THINKS THAT WE THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE SHOULD MAKE AT A PARTICULAR POINT TO ASK FEEDBACK ON FROM THE REST OF TRUSTEES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, OR IS IT REALLY SUMMARIZING THIS AND SEEING IF THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS TO ADD? I THINK YEP.
TRUSTEE WHITE I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EVERYBODY CAN'T MAKE EVERY MEETING.
I THINK WE SHOULD ASK THEM IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.
WELL, THEN, WITH THAT SUPERINTENDENT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD? JUST THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR TAKING TIME.
THIS IS A FOUNDATIONAL PROCESS, OBVIOUSLY, WHICH ALL OF OUR WORK OUR TEAM WANTS TO MEET.
OF COURSE, OUR COMMUNITY'S NEEDS AND EXPECTATIONS.
BUT CERTAINLY YOU ALL AS REPRESENTED AN ELECTED BODY, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ALIGN OUR WORK TO THE DIRECTION THAT YOU EXPECT US TO TAKE OUR DISTRICT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, DR.
ELIZALDE. AND THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE FOR SHOWING UP TODAY.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE COME BACK ANY TIME AND JOIN US.
SO THE FULL BOARD GETS TO WEIGH IN.
AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.