Mar 24, 2022 Board Meetings

GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

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AT 6:01, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT AND ONGOING CALLS TO ORDER.

IF YOU'LL PLEASE STAND FOR OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND INVOCATION, IF YOU WILL.

YOU PRAY WITH ME, PLEASE.

LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DAY YOU'VE GIVEN US.

FATHER WE THINK OF A LOT OF FOLKS IN OUR STATE THAT HAVE SUFFERED WITH THE TORNADOES AND BAD WEATHER LAST NIGHT.

LORD, JUST PRAY THAT YOU WOULD COMFORT THEM AND BE WITH THOSE WHO ARE HELPING THOSE OUT AND GUIDE AND DIRECT THEM.

LORD, GIVE THEM YOUR PEACE.

TODAY WE FATHER ASK YOU FOR YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR GUIDANCE AS WE UNDERTAKE THE BUSINESS THAT YOU PRESENTED TO US TONIGHT.

FATHER GIVE US THE WISDOM THAT COMES FROM YOU.

MAY WE EXERCISE GOOD WISDOM, GOOD FAITH IN MAKING THE DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE? FATHER CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR THE SITUATION IN UKRAINE, BUT WE PRAY FOR OUR WORLD LEADERS.

WE PRAY FOR PEACE.

WE PRAY FOR COMFORT FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING ATTACKED.

AND SO LORD, GIVE US YOUR GUIDANCE.

THANK YOU. IN CHRIST NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WELCOME VISITORS AND OUR GUESTS TONIGHT AND STAFF, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE WITH US THIS EVENING.

WE'LL MOVE ALONG INTO OUR AGENDA ITEM.

CITIZENS WISHING TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL.

I THINK WE HAVE NOTHING FOR THAT.

SO WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ALONG ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. PLEASE BEAR WITH ME AS I READ NUMBER ONE DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NUMBER 20220208005, ESTABLISHING THE PROCEDURE FOR THE MAY SEVEN, 2022 GENERAL ELECTION IN ANGLETON, TEXAS, AND PROVIDING FOR OTHER RELATED MATTERS RELATED THERETO. NUMBER TWO DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN AGREEMENT WITH CELESTIAL DISPLAYS LLC FOR THE FREEDOM FIREWORK DISPLAY AND AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT UPON LEGAL REVIEW.

NUMBER THREE WILL BE PULLED FROM THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN ENGAGEMENT AGREEMENT RELATING TO BOND COUNCIL SERVICES.

CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO.

I WANT TO PULL TWO OFF.

OKAY. SO THEN YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT ONE AND FOUR.

I'LL ACCEPT ONE AND FOUR. HAVE A MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND. HAVE A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES ITEM NUMBER TWO.

GO AHEAD, MEGAN. YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO PRESENT WITH THAT.

[2. PRESENTATION OF BOARD RECOGNITIONS]

WE DID NOT IN PREVIOUS YEARS BECAUSE THEY HAD A CONFLICT WITH THE DATE, BUT THEY HAVE ALWAYS DONE GREAT WORK FOR US.

WE DID HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE PREVIOUS VENDOR LAST YEAR, INCLUDING WE HAD SOME ISSUES JUST WITH THE EVENT OVERALL, THE MUSIC SIMULCAST AND JUST THE PRODUCTION OF THE SHOW.

WE EXPRESSED OUR CONCERNS IMMEDIATELY AFTER AND WERE INFORMED THAT WE WOULD BE GIVEN A FREE SHOW. WE HAVE STILL YET TO RECEIVE THAT FREE SHOW SO WE DO NOT PLAN ON MOVING FORWARD WITH ONE OF THOSE PROPOSALS FOR THAT REASON, AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO GO BACK WITH CELESTIAL DISPLAYS WHO WE KNOW HAS BEEN A GREAT VENDOR FOR US IN YEARS PAST.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THE MUSIC.

WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE MUSIC? THE VENDOR IS.

DO THEY GET APPROVAL FROM US OR WHAT TYPE OF THEME OR.

YES, THEY WILL.

SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE HISTORICALLY, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT AGAIN, MARTHA AND COURTNEY LANDERS WILL WORK ON IN PREPARATION FOR THE EVENT.

BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN YEARS PAST IS WE HAVE COORDINATED WITH A LOCAL, THE ALVIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE TO SIMULCAST.

THAT PLAYLIST HAS BEEN DEVELOPED, REVIEWED BY STAFF AND IS DONE IN ADVANCE ALONG WITH PRERECORDED SPONSORSHIPS, IF WE HAVE ANY, FOR THE EVENT SO THAT WHEN WE PRESS THE BUTTON FOR FIREWORKS, THE MUSIC GOES ON AT THE SAME TIME.

IT MAY LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THIS YEAR DEPENDING ON IF STAFF IS ABLE TO SOLIDIFY

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BUT WE DO HAVE A RADIO THAT WE PURCHASED LAST YEAR SO THAT WE COULD STILL HAVE A TUNE IN STATION AND WORK TOWARDS ENSURING THAT THERE IS A PLAYLIST WITH THE FIREWORKS SHOW.

SO STAFF TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, STAFF SHOULD BE REVIEWING THE PLAYLIST.

DO YOU KNOW IF THE STAFF INTENDS TO BE A PATRIOTIC THEME.

LAST YEAR WAS THE ANOMALY.

SO ABSOLUTELY.

I JUST KNOW THAT THAT WAS A CONCERN OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC.

SO THAT'S ALL I'M STRESSING THIS YEAR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I TAKE THAT AS GUIDANCE THAT WE WANT A PATRIOTIC THEME.

I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

I KNOW THAT WAS THE COMMON FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC SO WELL.

AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR GUIDANCE BECAUSE.

YES, THAT'S GUIDANCE.

YES. YEAH.

AND PROBABLY START OFF WITH THE NATIONAL ANTHEM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE JULY THE FOURTH DEAL.

WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. WE SORT OF EXPECT.

MM HMM. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN BEING BIT TACKY, BUT THERE ARE SOME NO BRAINERS IN THIS WORLD, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN THE UNITED STATES.

YOU GO TO A BASEBALL GAME TO GO TO A FOOTBALL GAME, TO GO TO A SOFTBALL GAME, YOU GET THE NATIONAL ANTHEM.

THANK YOU. MM HMM.

I DID SEE WHAT WAS IN THE CONTRACT.

I HAVE NUMBER SIX THAT DOES SAY PATRIOTIC MUSIC MIX.

SO I THINK THAT'S.

OKAY, FOLKS OR GENTLEMEN? MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.

SECOND, GOT A MOTION AND SECOND.

DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO PUT IT IN THERE THE STAR-SPANGLED BANNER AT THE BEGINNING, BUT STAFF KNOWS. JUST GUIDANCE.

GUIDANCE. ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION, HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN MOTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT MOVES US ON INTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO IMPROVE THE FINANCIAL AUDIT FISCAL YEAR 2020-2021.

MR. CHRIS. EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A FORMAL COPY IN FRONT OF YOU.

IF YOU DON'T SEE IT, LET ME KNOW.

I THINK WE GOT ALL THOSE PASSED OUT AND WE GOT THE AUDIT DONE A LITTLE BIT SOONER THIS YEAR, AND IT'S GOING TO BE DONE BY THE FOURTH END OF MARCH, WHICH IS WHAT MEETS OUR AUDIT REQUIREMENTS. AND IT'S GOING TO BE A CLEAN AUDIT OPINION.

HOWEVER, I'M GOING TO JUST TURN IT OVER TO OUR CPA WHO IS HERE, JOE.

JOE WANG WITH BELT, HARRISON, PECHACEK, CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS.

SO, JOE, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP.

GOOD AFTERNOON. IF YOU HAVE THE REPORT, PLEASE TURN TO PAGE NUMBER A.

PAGE NUMBER A AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE.

THIS IS THE OPINION WE ISSUED FOR THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT.

IT'S A MODIFIED OPINION THAT MEANS IS CLEAN AND NO MATERIAL MISSTATEMENT.

YOUR IS THE HIGHEST OPINION WE CAN ISSUE FOR THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT.

THEN LET'S TURN TO PAGE NUMBER 14 AND 15, 14 AND 15.

LET'S LOOK AT THE PAGE 14.

WE COMPARE WITH THE 2020 AND 2021 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021.

YOU HAVE ABOUT 77 MILLION TOTAL ASSET IN LAST YEAR, YOU HAVE ABOUT 74 MILLION.

SO YOU INCREASE ABOUT 3 MILLION AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU ISSUE NEW BOND.

SO YOUR TOTAL LIABILITY IS 38 MILLION, LAST YEAR IS 35 MILLION.

SO YOUR BOTTOM LINE IS LIKE 30, 38.7 MILLION.

THE NET POSITION.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER PAGE 15 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021, YOU HAVE ABOUT 26.6 MILLION REVENUE AND YOUR TOTAL EXPENSE IS ABOUT 20.9 MILLION.

SO THAT'S DIFFERENT, 358,000.

SO YOUR BOTTOM LINE IS 38.7 MILLION.

SO IT'S CONSISTENT, ALMOST THE SAME AS LAST YEAR, 39 MILLION.

THEN LET'S TURN TO PAGE 70 AND 71.

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THAT'S BUDGET AND ACTUAL ON PAGE 70.

THE TOTAL REVENUE IS ABOUT 14.1 MILLION AND TOTAL EXPENDITURE ON THE OTHER PAGE 71.

YOUR BUDGET EXPENDITURE IS ABOUT 60 MILLION AND YOUR ACTUAL EXPENDITURE IS 15.9 MILLION.

AND ALSO YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM, YOU HAVE THE CAPITAL OUTLAY LIKE 900,000 ABOUT THAT IS THE FUND YOU ISSUE.

LAST YEAR YOU USED 1.2 MILLION FOR THE GENERAL FUND, BUT YOU PLAN TO SPEND IN THIS YEAR.

SO THAT IS A CAPITAL OUTLAY.

BUT THE POLICY, THE REVENUE WE RECEIVE IN LAST YEAR.

SO YOU SPEND IN DC.

SO WE SEPARATE THAT CAPITAL OUTLAY FOR THE.

I THINK IT'S THE [INAUDIBLE].

YES. YEAH. THAT'S FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] CAPITAL OUTLAY.

SO YOUR BOTTOM LINE IS ABOUT 4 MILLION.

SO FAR, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION OR WANT TO GO TO ANY DETAIL? YOU KNOW, WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY IS THANK YOU FOR YOUR INITIAL STATEMENT ON THE CITY'S FINANCIAL GRADE, IF YOU WILL.

IT'S THE HIGHEST LEVEL. THAT'S THANK YOU, STAFF, FOR TAKING CARE OF ALL THAT FOR US.

AND YOU'RE ON A TIGHT SHIP.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR LOOKING US OVER AND MAKING SURE WE ARE RUNNING A TIGHT SHIP.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

OKAY. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTION, I WANT TO POINT OUT ONE THING ON THE MANAGEMENT LETTER, MAYBE AT THE BACK OF YOUR REPORT.

THAT'S TRUE. YEAH.

TWO LETTER ONE IS THE MANAGEMENT LETTER.

THIS YEAR WE WILL POINT OUT THAT'S A NEW PRONOUNCEMENT.

IS THE [INAUDIBLE] NUMBERS 87 IS FOR THE LEASE BEFORE FOR THE LEASE WE FOR THE OPERATING LEASE WE'LL PAY AS YOU GO.

YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE THE SS AND LIABILITY.

BUT START NEXT YEAR, IF YOU HAVE THE LEASE MORE THAN ONE YEAR, YOU NEED TO RECOGNIZE THE ASSET OR LIABILITY, SO CHANGE THE ACCOUNTING RULES FOR THAT LEASE.

[3. REPORTS]

SO THAT'S FOR EVERYBODY, FOR ALL THE CITY.

SO JUST A HEADS UP FOR THAT CHANGE.

YEAH. OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO PRESENT TODAY.

OKAY. YEAH. FOR GENTLEMEN, THAT USUALLY IS THE SCRUTINY OF THE NUMBERS.

IT'S NOT HERE JUST YET, SO.

BUT I'M SURE HE'LL HAVE SOME LATER.

HE'LL GET WITH STAFF TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW IT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN THIS TONIGHT.

SO Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE SO MUCH Y'ALL REVIEW.

I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU, PLEASE REACH OUT TO STAFF AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR GO OVER SOME OF THE REPORTING IN DETAIL.

AFTER SO MANY YEARS, YOU KIND OF KNOW WHERE TO FLIP IN THE BOOK AND YOU NEED TO GO TO THE BACK TO FIND THE LETTERS AND THE Y'ALL'S PRACTICE.

SO WE APPRECIATE THAT.

CHRIS. ANYTHING FROM US IS AN APPROVAL.

2021, AS PRESENTED.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN SVOBODA.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSE, SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. MOVING RIGHT ALONG, ITEM NUMBER SIX, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON PROJECTS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE NOTICE OF INTENT TO ISSUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION.

MR. CHRIS.

OK, BEFORE WE GET TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM ABOUT DISCUSSING A DEBT ISSUANCE, THIS IS THE TIME TO DISCUSS THE PROJECTS.

I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT SEVERAL TIMES, BUT CHRIS WANTED TO GIVE EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IT ONE MORE TIME BEFORE WE GET TO THE ACTUAL DEBT ISSUANCE AGENDA ITEM. SO OBVIOUSLY, BASED ON WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THE DEBT ISSUES WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $10 MILLION.

THAT WOULD BE 7.5 MILLION FOR THE THE ANGLETON OPERATIONS CENTER, THE STREET PROJECTS WE'VE PUT IN AT 2 MILLION BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING.

THEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STORAGE BUILDING IS ABOUT 350,000 AND THEN A GENERATOR, EMERGENCY GENERATOR FOR ABOUT $150,000, WHICH MAKES UP THE 10 MILLION.

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SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY FEEDBACK OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE INCLUDED, [INAUDIBLE] CHRIS.

SO WE'VE GOT JOHN PEDERSEN AND JEFF TO TALK ABOUT SOME ROAD PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST AND WHAT I RECOMMEND JUST KIND OF QUICK DISCUSSION, GET SOME FEEDBACK AND THEN WE CAN WORKSHOP THAT LATER TO GET INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS ABOUT COST AND ROAD LOCATION. BUT THERE'S SOME THINGS LIKE WESTERN AVENUE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST.

THERE'S THE LEVY FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF BRING THOSE UP FOR DISCUSSION.

BUT AGAIN, TONIGHT, WE'RE JUST KIND OF LOOKING FOR THE CONCEPTUAL WHAT WE WANT TO PUT IN THE NOTICE TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

GOTCHA. OKAY.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND LET QUICKLY JOHN, JUST GIVE US JOHN AND JEFF, A TAG TEAM ON THE STREETS. WE ALREADY KNOW THE OPERATION CENTER.

SO THE STREETS THAT Y'ALL HAVE IN MIND WHAT IS BASED ON OUR FEEDBACK AS WELL.

THERE'S SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT.

ONE IS THE RELOCATION OF DWYER STREET.

THE CITY IS GOING TO POTENTIALLY REMOVE THE PUBLIC POOL.

REUTILIZE THAT AREA AND MAKE IT STRAIGHTER AND THAT CURVE OUT THERE WHERE YOU CAN HAVE MORE UTILIZATION OF THE PROPERTY.

THE OTHER ONE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT RECENTLY IS ON HENDERSON ROAD.

ONE OF THE THINGS ON HENDERSON ROAD IS POTENTIALLY ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES NEEDED TO GET THE 90 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

WE'VE GOT THE NUMBERS IN RIGHT ABOUT JUST ON PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS.

IT'S GOING TO BE AROUND 500 TO 600000 ALONE, BUT THAT WOULD MAKE THE PROJECT AGAIN.

YOU'RE DOING STUFF TO MAKE THAT PROJECT MORE SELECTABLE IN THE TIP FUNDINGS.

WESTERN AVENUE WAS BROUGHT UP.

THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD ONE. THAT ONE'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN $2 MILLION, BUT IT WILL PAY FOR A PORTION OF IT.

THE LEVY AT THE TREATMENT PLAN IS NOT THE LEVY.

IT'S WHERE THE ROAD IS, WHERE THE LEVY HAS BEEN BUILT UP TO BRING IT UP TO THE SAME HEIGHT AS WHAT ANGLETON DRAINAGE DISTRICT DID.

THE ROAD NEEDS TO NOW BE BROUGHT UP.

WE NEED TO HAVE A VERTICAL CURVE IN THERE, PUT IN THERE.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO REDO THE ROAD TO GET THAT TO WHERE YOU CAN GET EQUIPMENT, TRUCKS, THINGS IN THERE LIKE THAT.

THE OTHER ONE, TOO, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, I'LL LET YOU TALK ABOUT THAT ENGLEWOOD COURT.

THAT WHOLE STREET HAS GONE TO PIECES OVER THERE.

WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS OVER THERE.

THERE AIN'T NO BASE MATERIAL AND NOTHING UNDER THAT STREET, JUST A BUNCH OF MUSKY PULLING UP. AND THAT'S A STREET NEEDS TO BE MAYBE LOOK AT CEMETERY ROAD FINISHED IN CEMETERY ROAD ON OUT.

THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. BUT LIKE JOHN SAID, A BIG PART IS THE LEVY REDOING THE ROADS OUT TO A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

BUT I WILL COME BACK WITH ANOTHER LIST OR GET WITH YOU ALL AND MAYBE YOU ALL HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS OR SOMETHING ON SOME OTHER STREETS OR SOMETHING.

SO JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

WE TALK ABOUT WESTERN AVENUE.

YOU ALL DIRECTED US TO GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AGAIN.

THAT'S KIND OF OUT OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE BUDGETED FOR IN THIS.

BUT TO ME, DWYER STREET, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THE OTHER DAY, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD EAST WEST CORRIDOR. STRAIGHTEN THAT OUT, WHETHER WE REDEVELOP THAT AS A CITY PARK OR SOMETHING ELSE OR SELL IT MAKES IT MORE MARKETABLE.

THE LEVY IS WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

WE ARE THE ROAD TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WITH THE NEW LEVEE, BECAUSE ALL WE'RE GOING TO DO IS IF WE DON'T FIX THAT ROAD, ALL THAT WATER IS JUST GOING TO POUR DOWN THE ROAD INTO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE'VE DONE ALL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT.

AND AGAIN, WE JUST THROW OUT A COUPLE OF QUICK SUGGESTIONS.

WE'LL DO SOME MORE. WE'LL COME BACK WITH SOME MORE OTHER CITY ROADS.

MAYBE WE GO DOWN PARISH AND WORK THAT WE STARTED THIS PROJECT OR AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING WE'LL LOOK FOR SOME FEEDBACK AT A LATER TIME, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT AND I KNOW WE DID THE OTHER BOND FOR STREETS AND THAT'S WHAT THAT BOND WAS STRICTLY FOR.

AND WE'RE CHOPPING ON THAT LIST.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE LOOKED AT THAT LIST.

I MEAN, I KNOW THESE ARE NOW SOME NEWER ITEMS THAT HAVE COME UP SINCE WE DEVELOPED THAT LIST A COUPLE OF THREE YEARS AGO.

JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT AND SEEING IF THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO GO AS WELL. BUT I MEAN, I SEE THE IMPORTANCE ON THESE THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED TONIGHT.

THEY ALL HAVE SOME RELEVANCY TO MAKE IT A POSITIVE IMPACT.

SO LOOK FOR THESE GUYS.

I KNOW JOHN IS REAL HEAVY ON STREETS AS WELL WORKING THAT LIST BUT WE KNOW WHAT STREETS

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BUT AGAIN, WE'RE JUST NOT LOOKING FOR A WHOLE LOT OF ANALYSIS.

BUT WE WANT TO PUT THAT THOUGHT IN YOUR HEAD.

AND AGAIN, CLEAR DIRECTION FOR THE STAFF AS WE GO OUT TO GET THE CERTIFICATES OBLIGATION THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON THIS 2 MILLIONISH FOR ROADS.

SO MY ONE THOUGHT ON THAT IS.

I'M NOT BIG ON [INAUDIBLE] BECAUSE IT'S A DRIVABLE ROAD.

WHY WOULD WE IF WE'RE GOING TO SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT, I WOULD NOT WANT TO USE IT ON A ROAD THAT'S IN GOOD CONDITION.

I'D RATHER GO TO A ROAD OR A PROJECT SUCH AS THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT.

SOMETHING THAT IS A NECESSITY VERSUS YOU KNOW, JUST A WISH LIST.

YOU KNOW, THAT TO ME IS MORE OF A WANT THAN A NEED.

I'D RATHER GO FOR THE NEED.

WE'RE GOING TO DO SMALL. SO, YEAH, THERE MAY BE FUTURE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE COUNTY TO DO THAT PROJECT, AND SO DO IT AT A LOWER COST, AT A DIFFERENT TIME AND WHATEVER.

AGAIN, I'M JUST THROWING OUT.

SOME THINGS AND APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.

AND WE'LL GET INTO MORE DETAIL, PROVIDE YOU A LIST AND HAVE YOU PRIORITIZE IT AND SAY YES AND NO AND WE'LL FOLLOW GUIDANCE.

A $2 MILLION IS REALLY NOT GOING TO GO VERY FAR.

I MEAN, IF IT WAS IN MY BANK ACCOUNT, IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY.

BUT THE CITY FUNDS, YOU REALLY.

IT'S AMAZING HOW.

AS TIME GOES ON. HOW MUCH LESS AND LESS YOU GET DONE WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY? WELL, WE'RE WE'RE LOSING GROUND.

YOU KNOW, THE CPI IS 7.8%.

I THINK YOU TOLD ME, CHRIS, YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY THEY APPROVED THE INTEREST RATE HIKE AND THEY'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE COMING.

SO IT'S IT'S GOING TO GET MORE AND MORE DIFFICULT.

AND AND WHATEVER WHATEVER WE ALLOCATE FOR WHATEVER IS JUST GOING TO NOT GO AS FAR BASED ON CURRENT SPENDING.

I'M DOING A LITTLE BUDGET PREP THERE AND THE AOC 7.5, IS THAT PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR? IS THERE SOME WIGGLE ROOM THAT COULD POTENTIALLY COME UP THE DOWNWARD TREND AND MAYBE SLIDE TO THE PROJECTS OF STREETS? WELL, SO TWO THINGS.

REMEMBER, WE SET SOME FUNDING ASIDE THROUGH ARPA FUNDING FOR THE AOC, WHICH WILL WE CAN GET THE PROJECT MOVING PRIOR TO GETTING THE FUNDS.

WE CAN DEMO THE BUILDING.

BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO REALLY ASSESS NOW THAT IT'S HERE IS CAN WE KEEP THOSE TEMPORARY BUILDINGS THERE OR DO WE HAVE TO MOVE EMPLOYEES SOMEWHERE ELSE WHILE THEY DO THE DEMO AND CONSTRUCTION? SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE DOWN THEIR SHOP.

DO WE JUST MOVE THE SHOP SOMEWHERE ELSE AND KEEP SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES THERE? I MEAN, THERE'S THAT WHOLE FUNCTIONAL OPERATIONAL THING.

DO WE GO OUT TO THE BUSINESS PARK? DO WE MOVE OVER TO ANDERSON AND MOVE THE BUILDINGS OVER THERE? AND SO THERE'S THERE'S OTHER COSTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT AT THE DETAIL LEVEL.

AND HAVING BRANT BALLS NOW TAKING CHARGE WILL HELP US WORK THROUGH THAT AND BRING SOME OPTIONS BACK TO YOU ALL TO SAY THIS IS WHAT WE RECOMMEND.

OR HERE'S THE COUPLE OPTIONS.

AGAIN, IF IT'S UNDER, THEN WE'RE GOOD AND WE CAN USE IT FOR OTHER STUFF, I THINK.

DON'T WE PUT A CAVEAT IN THERE ABOUT USING IT FOR OTHER THINGS OR BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DESIGNATED IN A COUPLE OF CATEGORIES, WE HAVEN'T DEFINED THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WITHIN THAT 10 MILLION LEGALLY.

WE'VE SAID, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ABOUT SEVEN AND ONE HALF MILLION ON AOC.

IF WE SPEND UNDER BECAUSE WE'VE DESIGNATED ROADS, WE CAN SHIFT THAT MONEY TO THAT.

AND REMIND ME THE EMERGENCY GENERATOR.

IS THAT GOING TO BE A FIXTURE? THAT'S A TRAILER MOUNTED GENERATOR.

AND THAT'S TO SURFACE THE 54 LIFT STATION.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN POWER GOES OUT IN ANGLETON, THEN WE'VE GOT TO STRATEGICALLY MOVE THAT AROUND. AND IT GOES FROM LIFT STATION EIGHT TO LIFT STATION 11 TO LIFT STATION 25 TO KEEP THE FLOW GOING UNTIL THE POWER GOES BACK ON.

AND THAT'S A NOTED DEFICIENCY WE'VE HAD AND AS WE BECOME MORE RESILIENT.

THANK YOU ALL FOR SUPPORTING THAT.

THIS THIS MAKES US THAT MUCH MORE RESILIENT IN THE PUBLIC WORKS, KEEPING OUR SYSTEM GOING. I KIND OF THOUGHT THAT BUT CAN REMEMBER WE ALSO HAVE LIKE WE'RE GOING THROUGH A MITIGATION GRANT AND A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS TO TRY TO GET GENERATOR FOR THE REC CENTER.

SO WE'RE USING OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, BUT THIS DOES NOT FALL IN THE [INAUDIBLE] EMERGENCY

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SO WE HAVE TO UNLESS THE POT OF GOLD OPENS UP AND THE RAINBOW, WE HAVE TO TAKE IT INTERNALLY SOMEHOW.

GOOD QUESTION. GOING BACK TO THE OC, OPERATION CENTER, THE 7.5 MILLION, HOW DID WE ARRIVE AT THAT FIGURE? SO OUR INITIAL FEASIBILITY DETERMINED SOME SQUARE FOOTAGE OF WHAT WE NEEDED FOR THE BUILDING.

PLUS, YOU REMEMBER WE SELECTED THE SITE, WHICH IS THE CURRENT SITE.

SO INSTEAD OF BUILDING A ONE STOREY COMPLEX, WE HAVE TO BUILD IT UP.

AND BASED ON CURRENT NEW CONSTRUCTION COSTS, I THINK WE'RE AT $350 OR $350 A SQUARE FOOT.

SO WHEN YOU TAKE THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE TIMES 350 AND YOU'VE GOT A HEDGE FOR THE INFLATION THAT'S GOING ON AND THE COST OF STUFF, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT FINISHING OUT THE BUILDING.

THAT'S PROBABLY DOING LIKE TWO FLOORS AND SHELLING THE THIRD FLOOR TO DO IT A LATER TIME.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, AS SEEMS IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY AT ONE POINT AND MAYBE I'M MISREMEMBERING HERE, BUT IT WAS LIKE 5.6 MILLION.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST ON THE INFLATION, WE'RE TALKING AN EXTRA $2 MILLION OR ARE THERE OTHER EXPENSES LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT, I GUESS PROJECTS THAT WILL HAVE TO.

WE REPLACE THEM WITH MOVE PEOPLE TO DIFFERENT POSITIONS TEMPORARILY.

SO WELL THERE'S THE VARIABLES LIKE THE INITIAL DEMO COST WE THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE LIKE 75,000. AND SO THE CURRENT, WHAT WE THINK IT IS IS GOING TO BE LESS THAN THAT.

AND SO THAT DROPS THAT.

BUT AGAIN, I'M JUST I MEAN, I'VE SAID FROM THE BEGINNING, MY POSITION ON THIS ON THE OPERATIONS CENTER IS THE I WANT TO BUILD.

IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THIS KIND OF MONEY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S GOOD FOR 30, 35, 40 YEARS. I DON'T WANT ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE TO COME BACK HERE AND TEN, FIVE, TEN YEARS TO FIX THIS MESS.

AND SO I'M NOT I'M NOT CUTTING CORNERS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT. YOU KNOW, A SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY.

LIKE IF WE GET IF WE GIVE YOU 7.5, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE SURE YOU SPEND IT.

SO, AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU MULTIPLE TIMES.

AND SO WHEN WE GO OUT, WE COME BACK WITH THE FINAL DESIGN.

WHEN WE GO OUT TO BID, ALL THAT STUFF'S GOING TO COME TO YOU ALL.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF THE ESTIMATES ARE 7.5 AND THE BID COMES IN LESS THAN THAT AND THE CONTRACTOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER RISK, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TIED TO THAT.

SO AGAIN, COMES IN UNDER THEN THAT'S WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S LOCKED IN CONTRACT.

I THINK MAYBE IF YOU HAVE SOME INPUT OR BUT BUT AGAIN IT'S PART OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD WE COULD GUESS IT'S 7 MILLION BUT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU, THAT'S WHAT WE ALLOCATE AND BOND FOR. AND THEN IT'S NOT THAT BECAUSE THERE'S SOME OTHER CRISIS.

I MEAN, WE'RE BUILDING A POLICE STATION IN ROCKDALE AND THE STEEL TARIFFS AND, YOU KNOW, THANK GOD WE HAD LOCKED IN THE CONTRACT AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND THE CONTRACTOR HAD TO EAT IT. BUT I MEAN, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT CAN VARIABLE THAT.

I JUST THAT'S WHY I GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION ABOUT WHERE WE GET TO THE 7.5 ON THE ABC. WELL, IF YOU REMEMBER, EVEN WHEN MSSP WAS LOOKING AT THE PROJECT JUST AS A HIGH LEVEL SCOPE OF WORK, IT WAS VERY CLOSE TO THAT.

SO WE HAD WRITTEN LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS AND HE AGREED WITH THE 3/50 SQUARE FOOT.

SO IT'S A PLACEHOLDER.

WE HAVEN'T DONE A FULL NEEDS ASSESSMENT, SO WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

BUT HE FELT LIKE THAT THAT WAS AN ACCURATE NUMBER TO START WITH.

IF ANYTHING IS GOING TO GET CUT, IT'S NOT THE STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING, IT'S NOT THE INTEGRITY, IT'S NOT THE WINDSTORM OR WHATEVER.

IT'S WE DON'T BUILD OUT.

OR PART OF THIRD FLOOR OR SOMETHING.

BUT AGAIN, THE COST IS UP BECAUSE IT'S A THREE STORY BUILDING AND NOW YOU GET ELEVATORS AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

MY QUESTION IS REALLY AROUND TIMING.

WE HAVE TO DEMO THE BUILDING, THE CURRENT STRUCTURE.

WE STILL HAVE TO GET THE DESIGNS FOR OUR NEW BUILDING.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE TIMING OF THE COST AS WELL, TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE BUDGETED AND WE DON'T HAVE TO BOND THE MONEY IN THIS FISCAL PERIOD?

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FOR ANOTHER 12 MONTHS BEFORE WE EVEN BREAK GROUND.

IS IT STUFF THAT CAN BE DONE ON OUR SIDE? WELL, UNLESS WE WAITED TILL AFTER FEBRUARY NEXT YEAR.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE PART OF THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET AS FAR AS OUR OUR BUDGETED PROPERTY TAXES AND THE DEBT THAT WE PROVIDED BRAZORIA COUNTY TO CALCULATE THAT THOSE RATES, THE INTEREST RATES ARE VERY UNSTABLE.

CORRECT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT ON THE NEXT YEAR THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, JOE HERE TO TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.

BUT WAITING WOULD JUST CAUSE THE COST TO GO UP.

IN IN INFLATION AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS AS WELL AS THE INTEREST RATE.

SO YOU'D HAVE TO PUSH THINGS BACK A YEAR BECAUSE ANYTHING YOU DO BEFORE NEXT FEBRUARY IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE MUCH OF THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

DO YOU THINK WE'LL BE BREAKING GROUND BEFORE NEXT FEBRUARY?

[4. PUBLIC FORUM]

I MEAN, WE CAN GET THE FUNDS BY JUNE, I THINK, YOU KNOW.

I THINK SO. IS THERE A TIMELINE ON THE BUILDING THAT WE ARE IN NOW? IS IT BRIEFLY GIVE US A BRIEF ON THAT.

YES, ON THE BUILDING, WE HAVE THE MODULAR FOR TWO YEARS, 24 MONTHS.

SO WE WERE WE WERE IN SINCE FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.

TO FEBRUARY 24TH OF FEBRUARY OF 21.

I'M SORRY. YES.

SO WE WILL ONLY MAKE THAT.

WAS THAT TO BE IN THAT BUILDING IN FEBRUARY? I DON'T THINK THAT THEY WOULD HAVE IT COMPLETED BY FEBRUARY OF 23.

RIGHT. THERE WILL BE SOME FUTURE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE, LIKE CHRIS WAS SAYING ABOUT WHAT WE DO.

DO WE MOVE OFF SITE WHILE IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION? DO WE MOVE OPERATIONS SOMEWHERE ELSE AND TAKE THE MODULAR BACK? WHAT'S MOST COST EFFECTIVE? HOW CAN WE SERVICE THE CREW? WHAT'S OUR ANNUAL COST AGAIN? OR IF YOU TAKE THE CONTRACT FOR TWO YEARS AND YOU SPLIT IT ANNUALLY, WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE PAYING? IT'S LIKE 3800 A MONTH, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. THERE IS A FEE TO MOVE THE STRUCTURE, ABOUT 15,000 TO PUT IT IN PLACE, BLOCK IT.

SO WE KNEW GOING IN THAT WHEN IT BECOMES A CONSTRUCTION SITE AND YOU HAVE TO MOVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE.

WE'RE AT THE PART OF THE TOUGH DISCUSSIONS.

WELL, AND THAT'S WHERE BRENT'S GOING TO HELP US MAP THIS ALL OUT AND LAY OUT THE MILESTONES AND THE TIMELINES.

SO TONIGHT YOU JUST NEED FROM US THE SOME OF THE FEEDBACK AND THEN THE GOOD WITH THIS SET OF NUMBERING FOR TO GET US TO THE NEXT ITEM NUMBER.

RIGHT. GO AHEAD, CHRIS.

THIS AGENDA ITEMS TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECTS.

THE NEXT ONE BE WILL BE THE NOTICE OF INTENT TO ISSUE THE DEBT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT RELATED TO THESE PROJECTS.

AND I THINK MAYBE I DIDN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION EXACTLY RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED THE MONEY IN ORDER TO MAKE CONTRACTS AND PUT THIS THING AND START START THE PROCESS. SO EVEN THOUGH THE BUILDING WILL LIKELY TAKE, YOU KNOW, ONE TO MAYBE TWO YEARS TO BUILD, WE CAN'T START IT UNTIL WE HAVE THE FUNDING.

CORRECT. WHAT I'M ASKING IS, IS THERE A WAY TO IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE OUTSIDE OF THE BONDING MONEY? SO TO FREE UP SOME OF THE MONEY, IF WE'RE GOING TO GO FOR 10 MILLION FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AS OPPOSED TO THINGS THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF INSIDE OF OUR CURRENT BUDGET. GOT YOU.

I MEAN, WE DID MOVE ON.

IF YOU HEARD ABOUT THE $2 MILLION TO STREET PROJECTS AND I SEE IT.

I SEE IT. OKAY. I'M NOT A I DON'T BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING 25 YEARS ON A BOND AND WE'RE GETTING AN EMERGENCY GENERATOR, 450,000.

IS IT GOING TO LAST THE LIFE OF THE BOND? THE GENERATOR FOR 25 YEARS.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST IN MY WORLD.

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YEAH, YOU DON'T.

WE DO HAVE A FEW.

ANYWHERE FROM 15 TO 20 YEARS.

ON A COUPLE OF LIFT STATIONS.

SO. SO YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT'S PROBABLY BETTER FOR SOMETHING THAT'S A ROAD OR A BUILDING OR WHATEVER.

BUT FRANKLY, I'M TRYING TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE BECAUSE I KNOW BUDGETS CAN BE TOUGH AND THERE ARE NO OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING RIGHT NOW.

AND WE'RE LIKE, WHAT, TWO MONTHS ALMOST FROM HURRICANE SEASON WITHOUT ANY CAPABILITY? I MEAN, NO ONE'S GOING TO GIVE US A PORTABLE GENERATOR THAT WE CAN ALL ROUND IN THE TRAILER. MR. JOE, I NOTICED YOU STOOD UP AND MOVED OVER A FEW SEATS.

DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADDRESS? THAT COMMENT FROM JOHN? THANK YOU MAYOR.

JOE MORROW WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES.

AND COUNCILMAN WRIGHT, WHAT WE DO WHEN WE'RE STRUCTURING THE BOND ISSUE IS WE'LL LOOK AT THE PROJECTS BEING FUNDED.

AND FOR SOMETHING LIKE A PORTABLE GENERATOR, WE'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT ENOUGH PRINCIPAL IN THE EARLY YEARS TO AMORTIZE IT.

AND THEN THINGS LIKE YOU'RE BUILDING, MAYBE YOU DON'T PAY AS MUCH PRINCIPAL OR ANY PRINCIPAL FOR THE FIRST FEW YEARS WHILE WE'RE GETTING SOME OF THOSE OTHER PROJECTS.

BUT THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WE TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE STRUCTURING TO BE SURE THAT OUR AVERAGE LIFE WILL HIT.

AND IF WE HAVE TO, WE PUSH UP THE PRINCIPAL A LITTLE BIT IN THE EARLY YEARS TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE THINGS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OR PERHAPS NOT.

YEAH. WE DON'T NEED THE ACTION ON PROJECTS UNLESS THERE'S SOMEONE THAT'S GOING TO RECOMMEND A CHANGE.

THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WE'RE PLANNING TO DO WITH THE $10 MILLION OF DEBT. THEREFORE.

THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE ON ITEM NUMBER SIX? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PUBLICATION OF THE NOTICE OF INTENT TO ISSUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION AND APPROVING REIMBURSEMENT AND RELATED MATTERS. MR. CHRIS.

ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS THE PART WHERE WE'RE BRINGING THE EXPERTS.

SO WE HAVE OUR BOND COUNSEL HERE AS WELL.

SO JONATHAN FRELS, BRACEWELL, HE'S GOING TO TALK TO US ABOUT THE ACTUAL NOTICE OF INTENT AND WHAT THAT MEANS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE RELATED TO THAT POTENTIAL ISSUANCE OF THE $10 MILLION OF DEBT.

AND JOE IS ALSO HERE TO GIVE SOME FEEDBACK ON THE SCHEDULE AS WELL AS THE MARKET CONDITIONS AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU, CHRIS. MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. I'M JONATHAN FRELS WITH BRACEWELL.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE THIS EVENING AND TO WORK WITH YOU ON THIS PROJECT. I WANTED TO GIVE YOU JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND THE NOTICE OF INTENT RESOLUTION THAT'S BEFORE YOU.

THERE ARE THREE MAIN THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEKING TO ACCOMPLISH IN THIS.

THE FIRST IS AUTHORIZING THE POSTING AND PUBLICATION OF NOTICE OF INTENT AS REQUIRED BY STATUTE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT BASICALLY IT'S SETTING OUT YOUR MAXIMUM PAR AMOUNT THAT YOU CAN ISSUE.

AGAIN, IT'S A CAP.

SO IF YOU ULTIMATELY DETERMINE, DO YOU WANT TO ISSUE LESS, YOU COULD DO THAT.

IT ALSO SETS FORTH THE PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ISSUING THE COS FOR.

ONCE YOU LIST A PROJECT IN THE NOTICE OF INTENT, YOU'VE GOT TO SPEND SOME MONEY ON THAT PROJECT THAT'S LISTED.

YOU DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC AMOUNT THAT WE'VE COMMITTED YOU TO ON ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT.

YOU CAN MOVE MONEY BETWEEN THEM, BUT IF IT'S LISTED, YOU'LL HAVE TO SPEND SOME AMOUNT OF MONEY ON THAT PROJECT.

SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.

SECOND THING WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE AUTHORIZING THE REIMBURSEMENT OF THE CITY FOR CERTAIN COSTS THAT THEY INCUR, CAPITAL COSTS THAT THEY INCUR PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF THE COS.

SO THAT'S A FEDERAL TAX LAW MATTER.

YOU HAVE TO EXPRESS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO THAT IF YOU ARE ULTIMATELY GOING TO USE TAX EXEMPT BOND PROCEEDS IN ORDER TO PAY YOURSELF BACK.

SO WE'RE TAKING THAT STEP.

AND THEN THIRD AND FINALLY, WE'RE AUTHORIZING THE PREPARATION OF THE OFFERING DOCUMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE USED IN ISSUING THE DEBT.

ONCE YOU'VE APPROVED THIS, WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH JOE AND THE AND THE CITY TO PREPARE THAT OFFERING DOCUMENT.

THAT OFFERING DOCUMENT WILL GO OUT ON THE STREET.

AND THEN WHEN WE COME BACK AND TALK TO YOU IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MONTH PERIOD WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS NOTICE OUT BEFORE THE PUBLIC.

WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU AND YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON THE ISSUANCE OF THE DEBT. SO AGAIN, TONIGHT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE AUTHORIZING THE PUBLICATION OF NOTICE OF INTENT. THIS IS NOT THE FINAL ACTION TO APPROVE THE ISSUANCE OF DEBT.

WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU FOR THAT AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING.

AND WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE THE ABOUT THE NOTICE. ALL RIGHT.

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ALL RIGHT, MR. JOE.

AGAIN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL JOE MORROW.

JUST REAL QUICK ON THE TIMELINE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY HELPS US AS LONG AS THE AUDIT WAS APPROVED, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PICK THAT UP IN IN START RUNNING.

SO THAT THAT'S EXTREMELY HELPFUL THAT YOU ALL HAVE HAD YOUR AUDIT COMPLETED IN A TIMELY MANNER. AS FAR AS THE MARKETS.

I WAS HERE IN LATE FEBRUARY AND WE WERE TALKING AND LOOKING AT WHERE RATES WERE AND WE HAD A COUPLE OF SCHEDULES THAT WE HAD PLUS 50 BASIS POINTS BECAUSE WE SAID WE KNOW WE'VE GOT SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE RATES MOVING UP AND WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE FED WAS GOING TO DO FOR SURE.

WE'VE GOT A LITTLE MORE CLARITY NOW.

THEY'VE GIVEN US 25 BASIS POINTS.

THEY'VE SIGNALED THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER 25 EVERY QUARTER THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR. WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WAS THAT RUSSIA WAS GOING TO CROSS THE BORDER INTO UKRAINE, ALTHOUGH THEY WERE STARTING TO BUILD UP SINCE THEN.

OUR PLUS 50 THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN FEBRUARY, WE'RE ABOUT PLUS 53 RIGHT NOW AND INTEREST RATES CONTINUE TO RATCHET UP.

NOW, THEY'RE NOT DOING JUST A BIG FAST BREAK.

IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY, EVERY COUPLE OF DAYS.

SO THAT LIKE TODAY, WE WERE PLUS EIGHT BASIS POINTS ACROSS THE CURVE.

SO BASICALLY A SHIFT UP ACROSS THE THE ENTIRE CURVE.

WE MAY NOT SEE A MOVEMENT UP AGAIN.

WE MAY GO DOWN A FEW BASIS POINTS.

IT'S JUST A PUSH AND PULL WITH AN UPWARD PRESSURE ON IT.

BUT YOU START STACKING WEEKS ON THERE AND YOU KNOW, THE MARKET'S TRYING TO ANTICIPATE AND BUILD IN BECAUSE THE MARKET HAS A FUTURE LOOK.

RIGHT. THEY'RE LOOKING AND TRYING TO PREDICT THE FUTURE.

SO WITH THE SIGNAL OF THE FED AND THINGS GOING ON, WE KNOW GAS PRICES CONTINUE TO GO UP.

WE HAVEN'T FELT THE FULL IMPACT OF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE SUMMER DRIVING SEASON ON THAT'S GOING TO FILTER IN THROUGH THE ENTIRE ECONOMY RIGHT.

WE GET OUR FOOD BECAUSE TRUCKS DRIVE THEM IN.

SO IF WE GET TO MAY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING TO SELL THE LATTER PART OF MAY AND SAY BYE THEN WE'RE ANOTHER PLUS 50.

WE WE DON'T EXPECT THAT THERE'LL BE ANOTHER FED INTEREST RATE HIKE THEIR NEXT FEDERAL OPEN MARKET COMMITTEE WILL BE IN JUNE, WHERE WE WOULD EXPECT A RATE HIKE.

BUT AGAIN, THE MARKET'S GOING TO BE BUILDING THAT IN, SAY, WE'RE PLUS 50 AGAIN.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOUR DEBT PAYMENTS? WELL, THEY GO UP BY ABOUT ON THE 30 YEAR SCHEDULE.

THEY'RE GOING TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT OVER 30,000 PER YEAR.

WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOUR TAX RATE? WE'LL BASED ON THE ESTIMATES THAT WE HAD, THAT'S ABOUT 0.2 TO 0.25 OF A CENT.

SO ABOUT A QUARTER PENNY ADDITIONAL.

WE DON'T SEE AT THIS POINT AN END TO WHERE THE MARKET'S GOING TO FIND AN EQUILIBRIUM AND SETTLE. THAT'S WHAT IT'S LOOKING FOR IS WHEN DO WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SETTLE IN AND FIND A NEW HAPPY HOME RIGHT NOW WHERE WE SOLD SOME DEBT LAST NIGHT.

THAT WAS 20 YEAR FOR A DOUBLE-A TWO CREDIT AND WE SOLD AT JUST UNDER 3% RATE.

RIGHT. WE GOT TO SCALE BACK.

YESTERDAY, NO TODAY, THIS AFTERNOON FOR YOUR PARTICULAR ISSUE BEING A 30 YEAR TERM AND IT WAS A 3.27%, WHAT WE SHOWED AT PLUS 50 WAS A 3.24.

SO, YOU KNOW, RATES ARE UNPREDICTABLE, BUT I HOPE THAT WILL GIVE YOU KIND OF AN

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IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT EVEN A HALF PENNY.

IF RATES GO UP 50 BASIS POINTS.

BUT AGAIN, AS WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, THE LONGER YOU RATE YOU WAIT, THE MORE INTEREST RATE RISK YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING TO INCUR.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION YOU MAY HAVE ON TIMING OR ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE MARKETS OR YOUR PARTICULAR BOND ISSUE.

OR I'LL SIT DOWN AND Y'ALL CAN.

THANK YOU, MR. JONES. ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS, JOHN.

I HAD ONE, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULE FROM THE LAST MEETING, TRYING TO WALK THROUGH THAT WITH YOU ON THE 50 BASIS POINTS GOING UP 30.

YOU SAID ABOUT 38,000, ROUGHLY ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 30,000.

YEAH. AND.

AT WHAT POINT CAN WE SAY, SORRY, WE CHANGED WE WANT TO CHANGE THIS UP A LITTLE BIT OR ALL THE WAY UP TO THE POINT WHERE YOU HAVE THE CALL.

DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE? YOU HAD PEOPLE CHANGE RIGHT UP TO THE CALL AMOUNTS.

AND IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE AMOUNT, WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW BEFORE WE.

IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW BEFORE WE PUT THE DOCUMENT ON THE STREET, OK, IF YOU WANT TO PARE BACK PROJECTS.

OR CHANGE THE PROJECT.

IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE PROJECTS, AS LONG AS IT'S WITH AS LONG AS YOU'RE JUST MOVING DOLLARS WITHIN WHAT YOU'VE APPROVED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FINE.

BEFORE THE CALL.

WELL, LET'S SAY A WEEK BEFORE THE CALL.

WELL, LET'S.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING IN CALL.

LET'S SAY WE'RE GOING TO MEET AT A DATE IN THE FUTURE TO SELL IN ON MY CALENDAR.

THAT IS MAY 24TH.

RIGHT. SO WHEN WE PUT THE NOTICE OF SALE OUT, WE LEAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THAT UP TO 24 HOURS AHEAD OF US TAKING BIDS.

NOW, WE DON'T LIKE TO DO THAT, BUT WE'LL DO IT.

WE POST THE DOCUMENT ABOUT A WEEK AHEAD, AND THAT'S WHEN WE'D LIKE TO KNOW.

HERE WE ARE. WE'RE LOCKED IN.

WE'RE SET. SURE.

NO, THAT'S FINE. I WAS.

I WAS JUST WANTING TO KNOW WHAT THE DROP DEAD DATE IS, JUST THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS AND KIND OF THE NUMBERS.

SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION.

IF OUR. SERVICE CENTER IS NOT 7.5.

LET'S SAY IT'S 7 MILLION.

DOES THE REMAINING HALF A MILLION HAVE TO GO TO THE SERVICE CENTER IF IT'S LINED OUT FOR THAT, OR CAN IT BE MOVED TO STREETS OR SOMETHING ELSE? YOU MAY MOVE THAT IN.

MR. FRELS WOULD..

AS LONG AS YOU'RE WITHIN THE CATEGORIES THAT ARE ARE IN THERE.

YOU CAN MOVE BETWEEN THE CATEGORIES THAT ARE IN THERE.

YES, SIR. GOOD.

BUT WHAT IS OUR TIMELINE TO SPEND THIS SO SAY.

WE RESERVE SEVEN FIVE OR THE BUILDING, WE SPEND SEVEN.

CAN WE WAIT UNTIL THE I GUESS UNTIL THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION IS DONE TO MOVE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? TO HAVE A RESERVE. YEAH.

SO SO IN THE AGAIN, BRENNAN GIVES THE TIMELINE, BUT WHEN HE GOES OUT FOR A BID AND WE GET THAT BID BACK, THAT'S THE LOCKED IN BID.

SO UNLESS WE ISSUE A CHANGE ORDER TO SAY WE WANT ADDITIONAL PARKING OR WE WANT THE CITY MANAGER LOUNGE ON THE TOP FLOOR, THAT BIDS GONE OUT AND THAT BIDS GOOD FOR THE DURATION OF THE PROJECT. AND SO AT THAT POINT, I THINK YOU CAN TAKE THE RISK AND SAY, HEY, CAME IN AT 7 MILLION AND SAID OF SEVEN AND ONE HALF, NOW WE HAVE 500,000 FOR ADDITIONAL ROADS OR WHATEVER IT IS. YEAH.

I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CREDIT RATING.

WE WERE A DOUBLE-A.

A DOUBLE-A MINUS.

YEAH. THE LAST TIME.

AND DO YOU FORESEE ANYTHING THAT WOULD CHANGE? AUDIT'S FINISHED.

NOT UNTIL YOU HAVE YOUR CREDIT RATING.

THE RATING AGENCY CALLS, BUT LIKE IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT

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WHAT DO YOU HOW CLOSE DO YOU THINK WE'LL STAY TO THAT? RIGHT NOW, HONESTLY, COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC, WE'RE NOT SEEING THE RATING AGENCIES DO A LOT OF UPGRADES.

THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING MORE AT DOWNGRADES.

THERE WAS A LOT OF FEAR.

I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE SOLID IN YOUR CATEGORY THAT YOU ARE NOW.

YOU'RE DOING A LOT OF THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LIKE.

YOU STILL HAVE STRONG FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE AND MAINTAIN THAT THROUGH THE PANDEMIC.

SO THOSE ARE ALL GOOD POSITIVES.

ONE THING THAT WE HAVE ON OUR STAFF NOW THAT WE DIDN'T LAST TIME, WE'VE GOT A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF TED CHAPMAN WHO SPENT OVER 20 YEARS WITH STANDARD AND POOR'S.

WE'RE GOING TO ASK HIM TO REVIEW THE CREDIT AND HELP US LOOK AND SEE WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO IMPROVE ON INFORMATION THAT WE SUBMIT AND BE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE STRONGEST PRESENTATION POSSIBLE.

ALL RIGHT. SO MARK, KIND OF I THINK WE DIDN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT I THINK IT'S A JOE, IT'S A THREE YEAR TIME PERIOD THAT WE'RE REALLY SUPPOSED TO SPEND THE BONDS.

SO ANYTHING BEYOND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE POTENTIALLY GET AUDITED.

AND PEOPLE ARE WONDERING, YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T HAVE IT FOR A PROJECT BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL HANGING ON TO IT AND USING IT AS A SLUSH FUND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR MR. MORROW? MR. CHRISTIE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. JUST JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR ME TO JUST READ WHAT THE CATEGORIES ARE THAT CAN BE SPENT ON THAT.

THAT IS AN EXHIBIT BECAUSE IT'S MORE GENERAL THEN THAN YOU WOULD THINK.

IT'S NOT IT DOESN'T SAY GENERATOR HERE.

IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WATER, SEWER, EQUIPMENT, THAT KIND OF THING.

OKAY. SO OBVIOUSLY THE FIRST PART IS THE ACQUISITION, CONSTRUCTION AND EQUIPMENT OF THE FACILITY FOR THAT'S THE AOC.

THE NEXT IS THE ACQUISITION CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT OF FIREFIGHTING FACILITIES.

THAT'S THE THE STORAGE FACILITY, ACQUISITION OF WATERWORKS AND SEWER SYSTEM EQUIPMENT.

THAT'S REALLY THE GENERATOR.

SO IF IT'S NOT THE GENERATOR, IT COULD BE ANOTHER SOME OTHER EQUIPMENT THAT FIT THERE.

AND THEN THE OTHER PART IS THE ACQUISITION OF STRUCTURED EQUIPMENT RELATED TO THE CITY STREETS AND RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THOSE ARE THE GENERAL CATEGORIES.

AND IF I UNDERSTAND BOND COUNSEL CORRECTLY, WE JUST HAVE TO SPEND SOME MONEY ON EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES.

IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THOSE SPECIFIC PROJECTS.

THEY CAN MOVE FROM ONE CATEGORY TO THE NEXT, CORRECT? RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I LIKE THE WORDING.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION.

WE DO HAVE AN ACTION ITEM.

UNLESS THERE'S ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

WHAT'S THE RESOLUTION NUMBER? 20220322-007 -007? THAT'S THE PART I WAS MISSING.

MR. MAYOR, I MOVE. WE APPROVED RESOLUTION 2022-0322-007 AUTHORIZING THE NOTICE OF INTENT AND FUNDING FOR ANY EXPENSES INCURRED PRIOR TO CLOSING AND DELIVERY OF FUNDS.

THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION IN THE FILE.

SO. OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT.

I HAVE A. SECOND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IS THIS A ROLL CALL? THOUGHT I SAW SOMEONE SAY IT WAS A ROLL CALL.

I THINK SHE SAID, TO JUST DOCUMENT WHO WAS HERE.

RIGHT. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO THAT MYSELF.

THANK YOU FOR QUESTIONING THAT.

WE'RE ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN, THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, GUYS. THANK YOU, MR. MORROW. THANK YOU, MR. JONATHAN.

THANK YOU, CHRIS AND CHRIS, FOR ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS PRESENTING TONIGHT, NUMBER EIGHT.

HOLD ON A SECOND. GO AHEAD, SIR.

JUST A COUPLE OF ADMIN THINGS RELATED TO THAT ITEM.

GO AHEAD, SIR. THE THE LAST PAGE OF THIS ITEM.

THERE'S A KEY AND THEN THAT KEY.

IT STATES THAT THE CITY IS THE CITY OF LAKE JACKSON AND IT STATES THAT THE BOND COUNCIL IS NOT OUR NEW BOND COUNCILS.

WE NEED TO MAKE THOSE CORRECTIONS.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A DEAL KILLER, BUT [INAUDIBLE] IT'S THE TIMETABLE AT THE BOTTOM OF IT.

[00:55:08]

IT'S ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO WRITE YOU UP.

WE GET IT. WE CUT AND PASTE A LOT.

WE GET IT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? CECIL GOT EXCITED, THREW HIS GLASSES.

THROW HIS GLASSES AT JOE.

ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE CAN MOVE ALONG.

LET'S SEE. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE PID REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE KIBER RESERVE PID.

MR. WALTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, AS YOU RECALL, LATE LAST YEAR, A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED FOR THIS PID, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT THE THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS COMPLETED HER WORK AND FINALIZING THE DOCUMENT.

SINCE THEN.

THE QUESTION WAS RAISED REGARDING THE INTEREST RATE THAT WAS IN THE IN THE PED REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT AS OPPOSED TO THE INTEREST RATE THAT WAS IN THE SAP.

THAT INTEREST RATE HAS BEEN CHANGED IN THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT.

THERE WERE SOME OTHER MINOR WORDING CHANGES THAT HAD TO BE DONE.

NOTHING MAJOR.

THERE'S A DATE IN THE RESOLUTION AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT VERSION YOU'RE LOOKING AT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONE IN THE SECOND, WHEREAS STATEMENT THAT THAT WASN'T DECEMBER OF 2019, THAT WAS ACTUALLY JUNE OF 2022, 2021.

AND THERE WAS ANOTHER TYPO TYPE ERROR AND FURTHER DOWN ON PAGE SIX OF THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT. BUT ALL THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE AGAIN FINALIZING THE DOCUMENT AND STAFF IS AGAIN RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, MR. WALTER.

ALL RIGHT, KELSEY. SO CAN I CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT? PLEASE GO AHEAD. I SEE YOU.

GO AHEAD. SO BACK IN OCTOBER, YOU APPROVED THE SAP WITH A PERCENTAGE RATE OF 4.04 ON THE ASSESSMENT INTEREST RATE.

AND IN THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL PERCENTAGE INTEREST RATE ON THE PAYBACK TO THE DEVELOPER.

IT WAS AN ERROR THAT WAS OVERLOOKED BY THE DEVELOPER'S ATTORNEY.

IN THE LONG RUN, THOUGH, WE HAVE DECIDED THAT SINCE THE SAP WAS APPROVED BY YOU BACK THEN, THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS ALTER THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT SO THAT IT REFLECTS WHAT THE SAP SAYS.

SO ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS YOUR APPROVAL ON THAT ONE SMALL CHANGE.

THERE WAS ALSO A SCRIBNER'S ERROR ON THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT'S BEEN THAT CHANGE HAS BEEN IN THERE. THERE MAY BE TYPOS IN HERE.

UNFORTUNATELY, I WAS OUT OF TOWN LAST WEEK, SO THOSE TWO TYPOS WILL BE FIXED.

BUT THE GIST OF WHAT WE WANT YOU TO DO IS TO APPROVE SO THAT THE INTEREST RATE AMOUNT FOR IN THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT MATCHES WHAT THE SAP SAYS.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, IT WAS NEVER EXECUTED.

YOU APPROVED IT IN OCTOBER, BUT IT WAS NEVER EXECUTED.

SO NOW WE'RE REALLY APPROVING IT AND IT'S GOING TO BE EXECUTED.

GOTCHA. OKAY. AND THIS IS A BONDED PERSON, RIGHT? NO, THIS IS A CASH. THIS IS A CASH.

THIS IS KIBER. SO BASICALLY AS THEY COLLECT THE CASH, THE CASH GOES TO THEM.

NO EFFECT US. THE REIMBURSEMENT.

REIMBURSEMENT, MAKES SENSE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS? YEAH, I'M JUST.

WHAT WAS THE BASIS? IF YOU REMEMBER, WE GAVE THE PID.

WHAT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DID THEY PROVIDE? WALTER IS GOING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

WELL, I WANT TO TAKE A STAB AT IT.

THIS PID PREDATED THE CITY'S PID POLICY AND WAS IN PROCESS BEFORE THE PID.

THE CITY ADOPTED THE PID POLICY.

THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ARE THOSE THAT ARE ALLOWED UNDER THE UNDER THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE IN REGARDS TO WHAT MONIES CAN BE USED, WHAT A PID CAN FINANCE.

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I MEAN, BECAUSE I REMEMBER A PART OF OUR DISCUSSION, MAYBE I'M MISREMEMBERING IT WAS THAT PIDS OR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT CAN BE USED FOR ROADS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY AND THEN ROADS FOR WHAT I THOUGHT WAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THAT WAS THE WHOLE SELLING POINT FROM KIBER RESERVE WAS THAT THESE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE WERE GOING TO GIVE IT TO APPARENTLY TEACHERS AND PLANT WORKERS WHO CAN'T AFFORD NICE HOUSES.

YEP, THAT WAS THE WHOLE ARGUMENT.

WE KEPT BEING TOLD THIS AND WE WERE JUST EVIL PEOPLE TO QUESTION THIS.

BUT THEN I LOOK ONLINE AND THESE HOUSES ARE GOING FOR $320,000.

FOR A 1400 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE.

HOW IS THAT A WORKING CLASS PERSON'S HOUSE.

WHERE IS THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT? THAT'S NOT HELPING A WORKING CLASS FAMILY, 320,000 HOME IN ANGLETON TEXAS IS A LOT OF MONEY. SO, TRAVIS, CAN I JUST REMIND YOU ON WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S RECOMMENDATION WAS ON THIS PID? IT WAS THAT THIS IS THE PID THAT I CONTACTED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE AND I SENT THE EMAIL OUT AND SAID THAT I DO NOT RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF THIS PID.

SO, I MEAN, I HATE TO BRING THAT UP.

I APPRECIATE IT. THAT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION.

BUT BECAUSE, AS YOU'RE AS WALTER HAS POINTED OUT, THAT THIS PID WENT INTO WELL, THE PETITION FOR THE PID CAME WELL BEFORE THE PID POLICY.

SO TO SOME DEGREE, THE SAFEGUARDS THAT WE PUT INTO PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE APPROVING PIDS, THAT YOU GET EVERYTHING THAT COMPORTS WITH YOUR POLICY, DIDN'T APPLY TO THAT PID. THIS IS A CASH PID AND IT GOT APPROVED.

THANK YOU.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? WHAT'S A YEARLY RATE FOR THIS PID? 4% RIGHT.

AND WHAT'S THE INTEREST RATE? 4.04. YEAH, WELL, WHAT'S THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT A HOMEOWNER IS GOING TO BE PAYING 1200 DOLLARS A MONTH STARTING? SO YOU MAY RECALL THAT THIS IS THE ONE WHERE JOHN SNYDER WAS ON THE PHONE AND SAID THAT HE WAS GOING TO WAIVE HIS NORMAL FEES AND HE'D BE GLAD TO TRY TO ADMINISTER IT.

AND WE HAD THE SAP UP ON THE SCREEN AND WE SHOWED THE AMOUNT.

SO, JOHN, YOUR MEMORY IS RIGHT.

IT'S ABOUT $1.5 MILLION OVER 30 YEARS.

YES. GRAYSTONE. OH, IT'S GREAT.

SORRY. THIS IS 127675.

I MEAN, I CAN. IT'S IN THE EXHIBIT F TWO, PAGE 262 IN YOUR PACKET.

APPROXIMATELY 96 HOMES.

93. YEAH.

YES. THE QUESTION OF WHAT THE THE MONTHLY ASSESSMENT OR THE YEARLY ASSESSMENT YEARLY WAS 1200. IT'S 1200, RIGHT? YES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

1276, I THINK.

YEAH. SIX A MONTH.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION OF, AS COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND POINTED OUT, THE SELLING PRICE OF THE HOMES. THEY'RE SO MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT ORIGINALLY WAS BROUGHT TO US.

CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? AS THE DEVELOPER, OUR LOT PRICE HAS NOT CHANGED.

WE ACTUALLY ENTERED INTO THE SALES CONTRACTS TWO YEARS AGO.

THEY HAVE NOT INCREASED THE INCREASE IN THE FORECASTED SALES PRICES.

WE SELL THEM TO THE HOMEBUILDERS.

WE CANNOT CONTROL WHAT THEY CHARGE FOR THE HOMES THAT IS NOT ALLOWED IN OUR CONTRACT.

I CAN ONLY SHARE THAT COSTS OVER THE LAST 15 MONTHS HAVE BEEN ASTRONOMICAL.

WHEN WE ORIGINALLY LOOKED AT THIS, WE WERE HOPING THAT THE HOMES WOULD AVERAGE IN THE $265,000 RANGE.

I CAN ALSO TELL YOU, I SPOKE WITH ONE OF THE HOME BUILDERS IN THE SUBDIVISION THE OTHER DAY, AND I BELIEVE SOME OF THE PRICES WHICH ARE REPORTED ON SOME OF THE REAL ESTATE SITES

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BUT THEY ARE SOME OF THE HOMES ARE IN THAT $300,000 AMOUNT RANGE AND THEY ARE AND THEY ARE MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE, BECAUSE, FRANKLY, COSTS HAVE BEEN UP 30, 40% OVER THE LAST YEAR.

YEAH, BUT I REMEMBER WHEN Y'ALL COMING TO US ORIGINALLY IT WAS WHAT, 200,000 WAS THE WHAT Y'ALL WERE TRYING TO GET TO.

BECAUSE I THINK Y'ALL EVEN TOLD ME AT THE TIME YOU'D EVEN HAD A SUBDIVISION WHERE YOU WERE ABLE TO BUILD AND GET PEOPLE IN JUST A LITTLE UNDER THAT.

IN SOME OF THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT WE'VE DONE TO THE NORTH, YES, THERE ARE HOMES THAT WE'VE HAD OF THAT, BUT OUR TARGET WAS ALWAYS IN THAT TO 225 TO TO 270 RANGE.

AND THE SAP WHEN WE WORKED WITH MR. SCHNEIDER. THAT'S WHY WE USED I BELIEVE IT WAS 265,000 WAS THE AVERAGE HOME PRICE.

WHO IS YOUR HOME BUILDER? WE HAVE TWO HOME BUILDERS IN THEIR FIRST AMERICA AND ADDAMS HOMES.

WHAT WAS THE FIRST? FIRST AMERICA.

THEY'RE A DIVISION OF THE SIGNORELLI GROUP AND ADDAMS HOMES.

THEY'LL BE BUILDING 45 AND 40, 48 AND 43 HOUSES OR 45 HOUSES, RESPECTIVELY.

FIRST AMERICA HAS STARTED ADAMS HOMES IS NOT.

SO. ON PAGE 257.

IT'S EXHIBIT B, AUTHORIZE IMPROVEMENTS.

ITS STREETS, STORM DRAINS INTO SANITARY SEWER, WATER AND SOFT COSTS GIVES AN ESTIMATE OF $2.1 MILLION.

AND FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THIS PID IS TO REIMBURSE FOR THESE COSTS.

SO APPROXIMATELY 1200 DOLLARS A YEAR PER 90.

I DID 96 HOMES, 93, 93.

THAT'S ABOUT $3.5 MILLION.

THE TOTAL PID IS $1.78 MILLION IN PRINCIPAL.

I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I BELIEVE THE INTEREST AT THE 4.04% IS APPROXIMATELY $1.3 MILLION.

AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS INCURRED BY OR TO BE CHARGED BY P THREE, I BELIEVE, IS ABOUT 635. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. $635,000.

OUR REIMBURSEMENT IS WE'RE AT 1.78 VERSUS THE 2.1 MILLION NUMBER, AND THAT NUMBER IS LIKELY TO INCREASE GIVEN PRICES BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING HIT WITH THAT, TOO.

WE'RE GETTING READY TO START CONSTRUCTION ON THE SECOND HALF OF THE SUBDIVISION.

WHAT HAS TO BE, BECAUSE I DROVE OVER THERE.

I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE ALL YOUR STREETS ARE IN HALFWAY.

HALFWAY. THE ROAD WILL GO BRIAN WAY, WHICH IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE OFF OF THERE.

IT WILL GO ALL THE WAY BETWEEN EAST ORANGE AND KIBER.

OKAY, SO YOU ONLY WENT HALFWAY ACROSS THE PROPERTY WITH THAT LITTLE CUL DE SAC AT THE END? YES, WE HAD TO TURN AROUND.

YEAH. AND THEN IT'S GOING TO STRAIGHTEN OUT AND GO ALL THE WAY TO THE OTHER SIDE AND GO ALL THE WAY TO THE OTHER SIDE.

AND WE HAVE A SLIGHT KIND OF COURT THAT WILL COME AROUND.

THERE ARE 12 HOUSES IN THE MIDDLE.

AND SO AS YOU'RE COMING IN OFF OF THE KIBER SIDE, WHEN YOU TURN IN, YOU CAN MAKE A QUICK RIGHT, DO A LOOP AND THEN IT'LL PUT YOU RIGHT BACK ON BRYAN WAY.

OKAY. JOHN, THE SHORT ANSWER IS THEY BUILT THE NORTH HALF OF THE SUBDIVISION AND GOT THE SOUTH HALF TO GO.

YEAH, I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THAT.

I REMEMBER WALKING, DRIVING DOWN IT AND THEN TURNING AROUND AND MY MIND JUST DIDN'T PUT ME AT THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY IN MY MIND.

IT DID PUT ME AT THE EDGE OF PROPERTY, BUT.

AND I WILL JUST INTERJECT HERE THAT I TALKED TO [INAUDIBLE] AND WE WERE CALLED THEN TO [INAUDIBLE] CAME TO US AND HE SAID HIS HOUSES WERE GOING TO START AROUND THREE AND A QUARTER AND HE'S NOT EVEN THERE.

HIS LOWEST HOUSE IS 412.

THAT'S WHERE HE'S AT. SO THE COST, EVEN FOR REGGIE'S PROJECT THAT'S WAS NOT NOWHERE FAR ALONG AS A PIPE AS YOURS WAS TWO PLUS YEARS AGO.

HE'S WELL OVER 100,000 FROM WHEN HE FIRST PRESENTED AS WELL.

WELL, THAT'S CONCERNING, RIGHT? WE CAN HAVE A LOT OF FORECLOSED HOUSES VERY QUICKLY IF THAT'S THE CASE.

PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD 300,000.

I MEAN, COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND IS CORRECT.

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AND THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT THIS IS.

AND NEITHER IS REGGIE'S AREA.

AND FOR THAT MATTER, NEITHER IS RIVERWOOD RANCH.

I MEAN, THEY'RE EXPENSIVE.

AND WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A LOT OF HOUSES IN ANGLETON AND PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THEM.

AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO SIT THERE.

I MEAN, HAS. HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW THAT ARE DONE? I BELIEVE FIRST, AMERICA ONLY HAS ONE HOME THAT IS FULLY COMPLETE, BUT THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY A DOZEN HOMES THAT ARE THERE SHEETROCK.

THERE'S AN EXTERIOR.

THEY'RE STILL WAITING, UNFORTUNATELY.

SUPPLY IS AN ISSUE RIGHT NOW.

AND SO THEY'RE WAITING ON SOME OF THE THINGS.

THE ELECTRICAL IS OBVIOUSLY A BIG ISSUE.

I MEAN, AS WE'RE AND WE SYMPATHIZE, WE WOULD WE WOULD MUCH PREFER TO HAVE A $275,000 HOUSE OR $250,000 HOUSE.

BUT WE'RE SEEING THIS IN ALL OF OUR MARKETS THAT WE'RE IN.

PRICES HAVE GONE THROUGH THE ROOF.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST TO BE REAL CLEAR, WE'VE CONTRACTED THESE A LOT PRICES TWO YEARS AGO. THERE IS NO INCREASE TO THE DEVELOPER ON OUR COSTS ON THIS.

THE INCREASES ARE COMING ON THE HOMEBUILDING SIDE.

AND WE'RE WE ARE SEEING THAT ACROSS THE BOARD IN EVERY MARKET.

WE DON'T WE WORK BASICALLY IN THE 45 TO SAY 75 MILE RANGE AROUND HOUSTON.

WE DON'T DO WE DON'T DO DEVELOPMENTS IN HOUSTON, HOUSTON, BUT HUNTSVILLE, CONROE, DAYTON, LIBERTY, MADISONVILLE, WE'RE SEEING COSTS.

I MEAN, IT'S 30, 40% AND 30 TO 40% ON A $300,000 HOUSE.

YOU CAN DO THE MATH. IT'S SQUEEZING EVERYBODY.

CHRIS, DO WE HAVE AN INVENTORY OF HOMES? ANYBODY DONE ANY QUICK CHECKS TO SEE HOW MANY ARE DONE, HOW MANY HAVE BEEN SOLD ON THESE DEVELOPMENTS. BELIEVE WE'VE PERMITTED 15 FOR THE KIBER RESERVE SUBDIVISION OF THAT.

HE JUST SAID HE THINKS 12 ARE IN PROGRESS WITH ONE FULLY COMPLETE.

I KNOW RIVER WOOD'S GOT SOME OCCUPIED HOUSES THAT ARE AND WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE UNTIL THEY COME AND GET A WATER TAP AND WE JUST GOT A BUNCH OF AMI METERS IN.

I THINK WE HAVE 85 OR SOMETHING WE GOT TO PUT IN FOR DEVELOPERS.

AND SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR WATER TAPS.

I'D LOVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

I MIGHT DO MY OWN SCIENTIFIC STUDIES.

WELL, WE CAN. WE'LL QUERY THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT TO SEE WHO HAS CONNECTIONS IN THOSE DEVELOPMENTS. AND THAT'LL GIVE US.

YEAH. OKAY.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE IN THAT PROCESS OF, LIKE, THEY'RE MAKING A SALE AND.

SO WHILE THERE'S A BREAK, LET ME APOLOGIZE TO MR. SCHOTT FOR CONFUSING HIS CASH PID WITH THE OTHER CASH PID.

I APOLOGIZE.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TAKE A COUPLE OF DAYS OFF.

IT'S ALL GOOD. ALL RIGHTY.

MORE QUESTIONS FOR MR. KEN OR FOR STAFF? WE'RE. TRAVIS AND JOHN, I HEAR YOU.

I'M UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

IT'S. I THINK THE WHOLE COUNCIL WILL LIVE AND LEARN DEAL.

SO. BUT.

NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, THE BILLS ARE STILL GOING TO PASS ON THAT COST TO THE CONSUMER.

IF THEY DON'T SELL, HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO DROP HIS PRICE.

REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS TONIGHT.

I'M PROBABLY THINKING THAT HE'S ALREADY SOLD THE LOTS TO THEM.

SEE WHAT I'M SAYING. WHY WOULD THAT HAPPEN, THOUGH, IF THE DEVELOPER DOESN'T GET REIMBURSED FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE HE'S PUT IN? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY SOLD A LOT TO THE DEVELOPER, RIGHT? WHO'S BUILDING THE HOUSE. BUT HE DIDN'T SELL THE COST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HE'S TRYING TO GET REIMBURSED FOR.

I GUESS I'M. WELL, THE THE STREETS I MEAN, SO THE GOING BACK TO THE PID, WHAT I WAS BEING REIMBURSED FOR WAS FOR THE.

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BUT THEN IF YOU DON'T PUT ENOUGH, THEN WE'LL COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT TOO.

I UNDERSTAND. SCROLL, SCROLL, SCROLL.

I'M GOING BACK TO THE BACKUP.

SO THE STREETS, THE STORM DRAINAGE, THE SANITARY SEWER, THE WATER.

AND THEN YOUR MISCELLANEOUS.

MISCELLANEOUS. IT SAID 2.1, BUT HE'S ASKING FOR 1.780 AND.

BUT HE DIDN'T PASS THOSE COSTS ON.

AND THIS IS FOR EVEN THE AREAS THAT YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED, RIGHT? YEAH. SO PHASE TWO, WE'RE DOING THE PID ON THE FULL 93.

THAT'S RIGHT. YES.

AND I'M SORRY, SIR, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION ABOUT HOW WE DIDN'T PASS THIS ALONG. THE PID WAS PART OF THE ANALYSIS AND PRICING IT TO THE DEVELOPER, TO THE TO THE HOMEBUILDERS. SO YOU INCLUDE THE PID IN THE PRICE TO THE LOT TO THE DEVELOPER? BECAUSE WHEN WE CONSIDERED IT, I MEAN, IF WE HAD NOT GOTTEN THE PID, THE LOT PRICE WOULD HAVE HAD TO BEEN MUCH HIGHER.

OTHERWISE, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOSING MONEY WITHOUT THE PID.

CORRECT. YES, SIR.

THE PIT ALLOWS US TO SELL THE LOTS TO THE HOMEBUILDERS AT A LOWER PRICE.

HOMEBUILDERS IS IT'S A EVERYBODY MARKS IT UP IS MY POINT.

I SELL A LOT FOR 50.

THEY MARK IT UP BY 20%.

IT'S AN EXTRA 10% THAT GOES ON TO THE HOME PRICE THAT'S PASSED ON TO THE HOMEOWNER, ULTIMATE HOMEOWNER IS MY POINT.

SO THE FIRST 15 LOTS THAT YOU'VE SOLD TO THE DEVELOPER, WAS IT WITH THE EXPECTATION YOU'RE GOING TO GET REIMBURSED FOR THIS? ABSOLUTELY. SO ALL 93 LOTS THAT WE'VE SOLD WERE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN WE ENTERED INTO THESE CONTRACTS. IF YOU DIDN'T GET THIS.

DOES THE DEVELOPER HAVE TO EAT THAT COST OR DO YOU HAVE TO EAT THAT COST? WE HAVE TO EAT THAT COST.

WE LOSE THE MONEY WITHOUT THIS.

AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TONIGHT IS JUST THAT THE TERMS IS, AS YOUR CITY ATTORNEY SAID, IS JUST WE'RE MIRRORING UP THE INTEREST RATE AND THE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT IN THE SAP THAT WE HAD TONIGHT IN THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT.

OKAY.

WHICH THE SAP WAS APPROVED BUT NOT EXECUTED IN THE.

SAP WAS APPROVED.

IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR.

RIGHT. WHAT WAS NOT EXECUTED WAS THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH IS IN FRONT OF YOU NOW. RIGHT.

WHICH IS TYPICALLY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE GOVERNING DOCUMENT.

AS PER MR. SCHNEIDER I SPOKE WITH HIM THAT THAT IS TYPICALLY THE GOVERNING DOCUMENT BECAUSE THE NOTIFICATIONS THAT WERE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE OR EXCUSE ME THAT HOME BUILDERS ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE WHEN THEY PUT A HOUSE UNDER CONTRACT.

AND AGAIN AT CLOSING IS BASICALLY A PAGE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE REFERENCED IN THIS DOCUMENT AND IT REFERENCES THE AMOUNT THAT THE HOME BUYER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

IT'S A DISCLOSURE ISSUE BY STATE LAW.

RIGHT. AND THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY ALSO HAS A TYPO.

I'LL BEAT COUNCILMAN BOOTH TO THE PUNCH.

IT WAS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 12TH 2021, NOT 2022.

JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.

GOOD. WELL, WE'RE WHERE WE ARE, SO I MOVE WE APPROVED THE RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE PID REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] RESERVE, PID.

NOW. I HAVE A MOTION BY A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SVOBODA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. SAME SIGN.

AYE. IS THAT THESE TWO OVER HERE? OKAY, THAT MOTION DOES PASS FOUR TWO.

THANK YOU, GUYS. THANK Y'ALL AT THE TABLE, AT THE PODIUM, MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

ITEM NUMBER NINE DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON NORTH SIDE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT STUDY. MR. CHRIS.

SO WE STARTED THIS ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

YES, LET'S DO THIS.

HDR CONDUCTED THIS.

WE'VE INVOLVED CECIL AND I THINK [INAUDIBLE] BEEN INVITED TO THIS.

SO WE WANT TO TELL YOU WHERE WE'RE AT, WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE.

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WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. BUT I KNOW IT'S OF INTEREST TO A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT DISCUSSING THE FUTURE.

AND SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JOHN.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND PRESENT ON THIS. THIS PROJECT ORIGINALLY WAS IDENTIFIED WHENEVER WE STARTED GETTING A LOT OF MORE DEVELOPMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE.

THE STATION 44 BECAME OVER, DID NOT HAVE ANY MORE CAPACITY, NEITHER DID THE FORCE MAIN.

SO WE HAD TO MAKE A DECISION OF TAKING A LOOK AT REDOING A STATION IN FIVE MILES OF FORCE MAIN THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY, WHICH WOULD BE VERY EXPENSIVE OR POTENTIALLY DOING A NORTH SIDE TREATMENT PLANT WHICH WOULD FREE UP CAPACITY ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND HELP OUT WITH DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE WITH THAT HAVE TODD WORKS HERE WE HAD WORKED CLOSELY WITH YOUR TECHNICAL STAFF [INAUDIBLE] OLGA, CECIL, A BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE. WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

WE WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT STUFF, LOOKED AT DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

WE'VE DONE MEMOS ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND SO THIS IS A PRESENTATION BASICALLY PUTTING THAT ALL TOGETHER AND ONE DOCUMENT WHERE WE CAN SIT AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WHAT STAFF HAS HAS ELECTED, THE TECHNOLOGY. THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE POTENTIAL SITES, THE PLUSES AND MINUSES OF EACH SITES AND THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.

WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO TODD.

GOOD DEAL. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY THANK STAFF.

THEY DID A GREAT JOB WORKING WITH US.

GEOFF, MARTHA, OLGA, MR. WHITTAKER. ALSO, WE SPENT A VERY HOT DAY LAST FALL [INAUDIBLE] AROUND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS, AND I THINK YOUR STAFF LEARNED A WHOLE LOT MORE AND PROBABLY HAVE A GREATER APPRECIATION FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE AT THE TREATMENT PLANTS EVERY DAY.

SO KUDOS TO THEM.

SO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH WHERE WE ARE WITH THE NORTH SIDE TREATMENT PLANT.

WE'LL KEEP IT PRETTY HIGH LEVEL.

WE WON'T GET TOO TECHNICAL.

WE'LL GET TO THE STUFF THAT YOU'RE MOST LIKELY CONCERNED ABOUT.

SO WE STARTED OFF, AS JOHN STATED, REALLY LOOKING AT AREAS NORTH OF TOWN, AREAS WHERE THERE'S CURRENT MUDS, THERE'S AROUND 2800 ACRES UP THERE THAT ARE [INAUDIBLE] THAT HAVE MUD AREAS. AND SO WE LOOKED AT THOSE 2800 ACRES AND THAT'S KIND OF IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT, IT'S THE LARGER AREA HATCHED OUT.

THE DARKER PINK AREA IS SOME OF THE INITIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE EXPECTED.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET BY TAKING BY BUILDING THE PLANT UP THERE.

IT TAKES THE FLOWS OFF OF LIVE STATION 44, WHICH WOULD THEN HAVE TO BE PUSHED ALL THE WAY TO OYSTER CREEK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN.

SO WHAT WE REALLY LOOKED AT WAS, GIVEN THE FACT OF THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS MOST LIKELY GOING TO BE HEAVY RESIDENTIAL.

WE LOOKED AT ABOUT A 90% USE THAT LAND UP THERE AS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES SOMEWHERE IN THE DENSITY OF ABOUT FOUR HOMES PER ACRE, THREE PEOPLE PER HOME.

AND WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH FLOW IS COMING TO THE PLANT.

EACH PERSON GENERATES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FLOWS AND LOADS EVERY DAY.

WE NEEDED TO HAVE THAT.

THAT WAS OUR BASIS. SO WE LEANED VERY HEAVILY TOWARDS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

WE SET ASIDE ABOUT 10% OF THE LAND USE FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS ALONG THE MAJOR HIGHWAYS, THE GAS STATIONS, MAYBE A LAUNDROMAT, A NAIL PLACE OR WHATEVER.

THEY USE LESS WATER DAILY, BUT WE WANT TO HAVE AN ACCOUNTING FOR THAT.

WE ASSUME SOMEWHERE AROUND THE RANGE, 10% OF THE PROPERTY AND ONE CONNECTION PER ACRE AND ONE COMMERCIAL CONNECTIONS AROUND 600 GALLONS A DAY VERSUS A HOME THAT'S CLOSER TO 250 TO 350. WE RELIED ON ANGLETON RATE STUDY BACK IN 2011 AS WELL AS SOME TCEQ, THAT'S THE GOVERNING AGENCY HERE IN THE STATE FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER USING THOSE 75 TO 100 GALLONS A DAY, THREE PEOPLE PER HOME IN THE RANGE OF ABOUT 300 GALLONS PER DAY.

THAT'S KIND OF THE BIG PICTURE THAT'S DRIVING EVERYTHING.

SO BASED OFF OF THAT AND THIS CHART DON'T NECESSARILY RELY ON THE TIME FRAME AT THE BOTTOM. IT'S MEANT TO SHOW AS THINGS GROW, THEY'LL BE DIFFERENT TRIGGER POINTS.

SO WHAT WE LOOKED AT WAS THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION WOULD HAVE JUST UNDER ABOUT 1 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, WITH THE FIRST ROUND OF BUILD OUTS.

SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO BUILD IN EXCESS CAPACITY.

SO YOU'RE NOT BACK HERE IN TWO OR THREE YEARS ADDING MORE CAPACITY TO PLANT.

SO WE LOOKED AT THE FIRST BUILD OUT WOULD BE 2 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

SO TO PUT THAT IN TERMS OF SOMETHING YOU MAY BE ACCUSTOMED TO, IT'S ABOUT FOUR OLYMPIC SIZED SWIMMING POOLS EVERY DAY THAT GOES THROUGH A PLANT.

SO IT'S A LOT OF WATER.

IT'S PRETTY EQUIVALENT TO WHAT YOU HAVE AT OYSTER CREEK RIGHT NOW.

I THINK OYSTER CREEK MAY BE JUST A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, BUT WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS GIVES

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SO THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS IF YOU BUILD TOO MUCH NOW, YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT AND YOU'RE NEVER USING IT. BUT IF YOU BUILD TOO SMALL, YOU HAVE AN UPGRADE TOO SOON.

SO I THINK WE'VE FOUND A GOOD WE FOUND A GOOD BALANCE HERE THAT WILL GET YOU A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF HOMES.

AND THEN AS THE FLOW DEVELOPS AND CAN USE TO CONTINUES TO GROW, THEN EVENTUALLY DOWN THE ROAD THAT HAVE TO BE AN EXPANSION AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BALLPARK OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SIZE WISE FROM AN INITIAL STANDPOINT, WHAT THAT FIRST THING IS, THE FIRST TIME YOU TURN IT ON VERSUS DOWN THE ROAD.

SO THIS IS JUST A SCHEMATIC LAYOUT OF THE TREATMENT FACILITY.

THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE SCREEN, WHAT YOU SEE IN DARK WOULD BE THE INITIAL BUILD OUT.

THAT'S THE 2MG WHEN YOU NEED.

AND I CAN KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THIS.

CAN I STEP AWAY? IS THAT OKAY? TAKE THE MIC WITH YOU. OKAY. AND I'M COLORBLIND, SO I CAN'T ALWAYS FIND THE DOT.

OH, THERE IT IS. OKAY, SO THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE BEGINNING OF THE TREATMENT PLANT.

THE FLOW WOULD COME IN BY GRAVITY.

IT WOULD BE LIFTED BY A PUMP STATION.

AND IT WOULD GO THROUGH A SET OF SCREENINGS.

I'M GOING TO DO THIS.

IT WOULD GO THROUGH A SET OF SCREENINGS AT THE BEGINNING.

SO THIS GETS OUT FLOATABLES, RAGS, PLASTICS, ANYTHING THAT REALLY FLOATS IN THE SYSTEM.

THAT'S A REAL HEADACHE. YOU DON'T WANT THIS IN THE TREATMENT PLANT BECAUSE IT MESSES EVERYTHING ELSE UP. IT CREATES A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE FOR [INAUDIBLE] TEAM.

IT IMPACTS TREATMENT.

RIGHT AFTER THAT, WE HAVE A GRIT REMOVAL.

SO THAT'S THE FINE PIECES OF SEDIMENT OR SAND OR ANY SORT OF GRAVEL TYPE STUFF THAT WOULD DROP OUT. WE WANT TO GET THAT OUT AS WELL BECAUSE IT ENDS UP SETTLING IN THESE TANKS AND TAKES UP VOLUME.

SO WE HAVE SOME SORT OF A GRIT REMOVAL.

THIS IS WHERE WE REALLY BEGIN.

WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IS TRADITIONAL TREATMENT.

YOU HAVE AN ANAEROBIC TANK FOLLOWED BY AN AERATION BASIN.

SO BASICALLY THIS IS WHERE THE FLOW FIRST COMES IN.

IT'S IT IS HIT WITH BACTERIA TO HELP CHEW UP THE POLLUTANTS.

AND I'LL SAY POLLUTANTS, BUT IT'S THE THE BIOLOGICAL, THE SOLIDS.

YES. AND THEN THE NEXT BASIN IS THE AERATION BASIN.

SO IF YOU'VE BEEN TO OYSTER CREEK BEFORE, THAT'S THE BASIN YOU GO AND YOU SEE LIKE THE FOAMING AND THE BUBBLES.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE PUSHING AIR IN THERE TO FEED THE BACTERIA, TO CHEW UP AND CONVERT THE POLLUTANTS TO GAS, NITROGEN, DIFFERENT THINGS.

FROM THERE THE FLOW THEN GOES INTO TWO CLASSIFIERS.

AND BASICALLY THESE ARE WHITE SPOTS WHERE ANYTHING THAT'S STILL FLOATING IN THE SYSTEM THAT MADE IT THROUGH HERE AND THE BACTERIA AND THE BIOMASS SEPARATES.

SO CLEAN WATER GOES OVER THE TOP AND GOES ON DOWNSTREAM.

THE SOLIDS, THEY'RE NOT REALLY SOLID.

THEY'RE LIKE A SLUDGE.

THE SLUDGE GETS PUMPED BACK TO HERE AND THEN PUSH BACK INTO THE HEAD OF TANK AND GETS RECYCLED BECAUSE WE WANT THOSE BUGS TO COME BACK AROUND AGAIN TO HELP RESTART THE PROCESS. SO WHAT COMES OFF THE OFF THE CLARIFIER IS CLEAN WATER.

SO IF YOU GO TO THE PLANT AND LOOK AT IT, IT'LL BE, VERY IT'LL LOOK VERY, VERY CLEAN.

IT WON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT CHOCOLATE MILK LOOK TO IT AT ALL.

FROM THERE, THEN WE WOULD GO THROUGH A FILTRATION SYSTEM, WHICH IS MORE OR LESS A VERY LARGE SET OF COFFEE FILTERS THAT GETS ANYTHING THAT MADE IT OVER THOSE OUT OF THE CLARIFIER AND GETS IT OUT OF THE SYSTEM FROM THERE.

THEN WE GO THROUGH UV DISINFECTION, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A VERY HIGH, INTENSE LIGHT BULB, SUBMERSIBLE LIGHT BULBS.

THEY LOOK LIKE THESE FLUORESCENT TUBES ARE LONG AND SKINNY.

THEY CREATE UV LIGHT.

THAT UV LIGHT DISRUPTS ANY BACTERIA OR VIRUSES IN THE SYSTEM AND DOES NOT ALLOW THEM TO REPLICATE.

FROM THERE, THEN IT GOES OUT TO THE RECEIVING BODIES.

SO THIS IS THAT'S THE 2 MILLION GALLON VERSION.

WHEN FLOWS GET UP IN THE FUTURE, WE WOULD FLIP THIS AND BUILD THE SECOND HALF JUST LIKE IT. SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS BEFORE I MOVE ON? THIS IS THE SLUDGE HOLDING TANKS.

SO THE SOMETIMES THEY'RE WASTED.

SO YOU'LL HEAR THE OPERATORS TALK ABOUT WAS, WASTE ACTIVATED SLUDGE.

THAT IS, THEY'LL TAKE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OUT BECAUSE THEY'LL JUST CONTINUE TO ACCUMULATE.

SO SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO WASTE IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW CURRENTLY AT OYSTER CREEK, IT GOES INTO A SLUDGE HOLDING TANK AND SITS THERE.

IT'S AERATED. WE KEEP AIR IN IT TO KEEP IT FROM GOING SEPTIC OR SOUR OR HELP REDUCE SOME

[01:30:02]

THAT WORK? SO COST THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE UNIT COST BY PROCESS ACROSS THE TANKS, ACROSS THE ENTIRE PROCESS START TO START TO FINISH.

SOME OF THE NOTABLE THINGS IN HERE, AN ADMINISTRATION BUILDING THIS IS AROUND ABOUT 6000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE.

IT INCLUDES LABORATORIES, SHOWERS, OFFICE SPACE AND SOME PROTECTED COVERED INDOOR STORAGE.

NOT STORAGE LIKE THIS, BUT LIKE GARAGE STORAGE, CONCRETE FLOORS, OPEN BAYS.

JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS YOU WANT TO KEEP OUT OF THE WEATHER, YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO STORE IN THE YARD OUTSIDE.

ALSO LAND WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THE RANGE OF 25 ACRES IS WHAT WE NEED BECAUSE AROUND THE BUFFER OF WHATEVER WE BUILD, WE HAVE TO HAVE 150 FOOT BUFFER STRIP AROUND IT FROM THE PUBLIC AND PART OF THAT.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD THING BECAUSE THAT HELPS WITH ODOR DIFFUSION.

IT HELPS KEEP DOWN SOME OF THE NOISE, THE ODOR COMPLAINTS POTENTIALLY.

AND IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A BUFFER BEFORE WITHOUT SOMEONE BUILDING RIGHT ON TOP OF YOU. SO WE PRICED THE LAND OUT AROUND 30,000 AN ACRE FOR 25 ACRES.

THAT'S WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM.

WE CAN WE CAN ARGUE THAT UP OR DOWN EITHER ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

BUT THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS WE TALKED WITH MR. WHITAKER ALSO ABOUT POTENTIALLY HAVING MORE LAND.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUY LAND, MAYBE NOW'S THE TIME TO BUY THE LAND FOR OTHER USES.

POLICE STATION, CHRIS, YOU HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS, OTHER IDEAS ON THERE TOO.

PUBLIC WORKS, PARKS, EQUIPMENT, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING SO, SO THAT'S THE COST ESTIMATE.

AND AND JUST TO PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE, [INAUDIBLE] JUST COMPLETED A JOB, A SIMILAR SIZED TREATMENT PLANT IN KANSAS THAT WENT TO BID.

AND IT'S IN THE SAME PRICE RANGE FOR ABOUT 2 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

THAT'S IT. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DATA POINTS.

WE ALSO HAVE DATA POINTS FROM BEFORE AND WE'VE DONE SOME ESCALATIONS AND WE FEEL LIKE

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THESE NUMBERS ARE IN IN DECEMBER 2021 NUMBERS.

WE DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY SORT OF WHAT WE CALL MIDPOINT OF ESCALATION, WHICH IS A TIME VALUE OF MONEY OF WHENEVER WE GET HALFWAY THROUGH CONSTRUCTION.

SO THAT'S NOT IN THERE ALSO.

BUT WE WANTED TO JUST TO KEEP IT VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND TO THE POINT FOR AN ESTIMATE AT THE END OF LAST YEAR.

YEAH. IF YOU HAVE A STROKE OVER 65 MILLION, YOU'LL HAVE A STROKE OVER 70 MILLION.

IT'S NO BIG DEAL. WE'RE NOT OVER 70 MILLION.

SO STROKE OVER THE 42 MILLION.

YES. TREATMENT PLANTS ARE NOT INEXPENSIVE.

THE THING IS, IS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EVERYONE'S INVOLVEMENT, MR. BOOTH, COUNCILMAN BOOTH WAS VERY INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THIS TO PROVIDE A LOT OF INSIGHT.

YOU'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE SOMEONE LIKE HIM ON BOARD WHO UNDERSTANDS THE INDUSTRY, WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT WE DO.

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, TOO, IS THIS PLANT WILL OUTLIVE PROBABLY ALL, WELL, MOST OF US.

THIS THING WILL BE IN OPERATIONS FOR 50 YEARS.

CONCRETE TANKS WILL LAST 50 YEARS OR LONGER.

SO I DOUBT I'LL BE ALIVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS 50 YEARS FROM NOW.

BUT IT'S A LONG TERM INVESTMENT.

IT IS A BIG NUMBER. AND I GET THAT.

I REALLY DO. I WISH IT WAS CHEAPER.

WE'D BUILD A LOT MORE TREATMENT PLANTS IF WE COULD THAT WAY.

BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE IN THESE SAME SITUATIONS.

SO THE NEXT FOUR SLIDES, I'M GOING TO TALK THROUGH OUR SITE SELECTION.

[6. STATUTORY ITEMS WHICH MAY APPROPRIATELY COME TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD]

THESE ARE NOT SPECIFIC PROPERTIES WE'VE TARGETED.

THEY'RE SORT OF GENERALIZED AREAS AROUND AROUND TOWN.

AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING FOR 25 ACRES IN THAT BALLPARK.

AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ON SITE SELECTION IS HOW FAR IS THE RECEIVING WATER, BECAUSE THE CLEAN WATER COMING OUT OF THE PLANT HAS TO GO TO A STREAM.

HOW FAR ARE WE FROM THAT? ARE THERE WETLANDS WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT? BECAUSE THAT BECOMES THAT RAISES OTHER PROBLEMS. ARE THERE GEOTECHNICAL ISSUES? ARE THERE FLOODING ISSUES? SO WE WENT THROUGH A PRETTY EXHAUSTIVE SITE SELECTION.

AND AGAIN, THESE AREN'T SPECIFIC PROPERTIES.

THERE AREAS OF TOWN THAT WILL WORK.

SO SITE ONE, I'LL TAKE AND WALK OVER AGAIN.

SITE ONE IS LOCATED HERE OFF 75.

IS THAT RIGHT? IS THAT 35? SORRY. GOT MY NUMBERS WRONG.

[01:35:01]

ON THE VERY EDGE OF THE CITY.

IN THE JUST INSIDE THE ETJ.

IT KIND OF PUTS EVERYTHING AWAY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT.

THIS HAS GOT SOME ISSUES WITH IT, JUST SIMPLY FOR THE FACT OF HOW MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE WE'D HAVE TO EXTEND TO GET TO IT.

THE NICE PART IS IT'S REALLY FAR AWAY FROM ANYTHING.

SO THE LIKELIHOOD OF ODOR ISSUES WITH DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS THIS AREA UP IN HERE.

OOPS. YOUR DEVELOPMENT AREA IS ALL UP IN HERE.

IT KEEPS IT FAR AWAY FROM THAT.

IT GIVES YOU ROOM TO GROW.

IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM DEVELOPABLE LAND.

SITE TWO IS LOCATED RIGHT OFF 523.

[7. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

RIGHT OFF 523.

THIS ONE'S CLOSE.

THIS AREA IS ATTRACTIVE BECAUSE IT REQUIRES LESS EXTENSION OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET TO IT. HOWEVER, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THERE ARE SOME VERY LARGE HIGH VOLTAGE, HIGH TENSION POWER LINES THAT CRISS CROSS IN THIS AREA.

SO THAT CREATES SOME DIFFICULTIES THAT WE MAY NOT GET A VERY COMPACT SITE BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO STAY AWAY FROM THOSE UTILITIES, THOSE HIGH VOLTAGE LINES.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE WITH THIS SITE IS CHALLENGE RELATED TO ONE OF THE DRAINAGE DITCHES THAT GOES THROUGH THERE.

SO WE'D HAVE TO GET ACROSS THAT TO GET TO IT.

THE THIRD SITE IS REALLY SORT OF LOCATED ABOUT MIDDLE ON THE EAST SIDE OF WHERE THE DEVELOPABLE LAND IS.

THIS ONE DOES REQUIRE SOME EXTENSION OF UTILITIES, BUT IT ALSO MAKES IT VERY ATTRACTIVE FOR DEVELOPERS BECAUSE ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS GET A GRAVITY SEWER TO OUR LIFT STATION SITE. AND THEN FINALLY WE LOOKED AT SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE ATTRACTIVE, MORE SORT OF IN TOWN. MR. COUNCILMAN BOOTH, THIS IS THIS AREA IS IT'S HOSPITAL ROAD.

AND WHAT'S IT CALLED? [INAUDIBLE] EXPERIMENTS. THE [INAUDIBLE] EXPERIMENT? YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

SO WE LOOKED AT AN AREA, THIS SORT OF AN AREA AS WELL, JUST BECAUSE OF IT REQUIRES A LITTLE LESS EXTENSION OF CITY UTILITIES TO GET TO IT.

YOU ALREADY HAVE ROADS TO IT.

CHALLENGE IS DEVELOPERS HAVE TO BRING FLOW ALL THE WAY FROM UP HERE AND WORK ITS WAY DOWN TO HERE. SO THAT'S A IT'S AN EFFORT.

IT DOES ADD MORE EFFORT TO DEVELOPERS TO GIVE THEM A LOCATION.

SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THE FOUR GENERAL GENERALIZED AREAS THAT WE LOOKED AT FOR.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. SO, YES, SIR.

JUST LIKE CECIL DOES WITH THE HISTORY LESSONS, THE REASON WHY WE'RE TARGETING THIS AREA IS BECAUSE WE'RE OUT OF FUTURE CAPACITY.

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AND WE TURNED THEM DOWN PARTLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY.

AND SO THAT'S A DECISION ABOUT DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TARGETING THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF ANGLETON.

SO TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER.

THE TREATMENT PLANT COSTS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME REGARDLESS OF THE SITE.

NO MATTER WHERE WE GO WITH IT, IT'S THAT IT'S 45 46 MILLION DOLLARS EFFECTIVELY.

THE OFFSITE IS VARIES A LITTLE BIT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT EVERYTHING'S BASICALLY KIND OF BRACKETED IN THAT LOW $60,000, $60,000,000 PRICE.

SO I THINK THE TAKEAWAY IS THERE'S NOT ONE MAGIC SITE THAT'S THIS MAGIC BULLET THAT'S GOING TO GET IT DOWN SUPER LOW COST WISE WHICH MEANS WE'RE GOING TO NEED PROBABLY INPUT FROM CITY STAFF HOW TO MOVE FORWARD, WHERE TO MOVE FORWARD, WHAT THE THOUGHTS ARE.

IT IS A BIG NUMBER, I GET THAT.

SO I WANTED TO LEAVE YOU WITH THAT SORT OF A TOP LINE NUMBER THERE.

SO PART OF ONE OF THE FUTURE THINGS WE NEED TO DO IS LOOK AT IMPACT FEES AND WE DON'T HAVE A CITY WIDE IMPACT FEE AND THAT'S THE FUTURE PAYING FOR THE FUTURE.

AND SO WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU SOME TIME TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND SEE WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO. NOW THE OFFSITE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE BUILT FOR THE FULL BUILDOUT. YES, YES.

YEAH. WE WOULD SIZE IT TO BE LIKE IF WE NEED A WATER, WE'RE GOING NEED WATER MAINS BECAUSE YOU NEED POTABLE WATER UP THERE.

IT'S GOING TO BE A 12 INCH LINE OR AN EIGHT INCH LINE.

WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THAT FOR THE FULL BUILDOUT.

YES. [INAUDIBLE] MAIN SEWER WOULD GO AHEAD AND PUT IT IN FOR WHAT YOU NEED.

[01:40:01]

THE FULL SYSTEM, THAT'S THE HALF.

YEAH. YOU'RE RIGHT.

WHAT JOHN SAID YOU BUILD THE SIZE OF PIPE, BRINGING IT TO IT FOR THE 4 MILLION.

RIGHT. IT'LL SUFFICE FOR THE TWO.

YES, SIR.

WHAT'S THE TIMELINE BUILDOUT ON A PROJECT LIKE THAT? SIMILAR TO THE PRIOR CONVERSATION, THE ISSUES OF GETTING MATERIALS AND STUFF, IT'S A CONCERN. THERE'S SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, WHICH IS ALSO THEN TRANSLATING INTO COST AND RISK.

YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A YEAR TO 18 MONTHS FOR DESIGN AND PERMITTING FROM THE STATE.

AND YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT 18 TO 24 MONTHS OF CONSTRUCTION.

A FOUR YEAR, GIVE OR TAKE? YES, SIR. PLUS, THERE'S LAND ACQUISITION, SO WE DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S RIGHT. COULD TAKE 30 DAYS, COULD TAKE WHATEVER.

I'M CONFUSED AT HOW THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS HAVE BEEN GOING IN NORTH OF US, HOW THEY'VE BEEN PUTTING IN ALL THESE WATER TREATMENT PLANTS, OR IS IT JUST ON A MUCH SMALLER SCALE SO THEY'RE ABLE TO SIZE IT TO JUST THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND.

EXACTLY RIGHT. THEY DO WHAT THEY CALL A PACKAGE PLAN.

SO HOW MUCH IS ONE LIKE THAT COST? IT DEPENDS ON THE DEVELOPMENT.

I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF ME.

I MEAN, THEY CAN DO THEY ROLL IT INTO THE PIT OR THE MUD FEE.

RIGHT. SO, I MEAN, IT IS GOING IN THERE.

THE PROBLEM WITH IT IS, IS WHEN THE MUD DISSIPATES, AFTER THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY GOES AWAY . SURE. THEY TURN IT OVER TO AN ENTITY SUCH AS THE CITY.

RIGHT. NOW YOU'VE GOT THIS PLANT THAT'S WORE OUT.

NEEDS MAINTENANCE.

THAT THE CITY WOULD THEN HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO KEEP THAT GOING.

AND THEY'RE USUALLY.

METAL. THEY'RE NOT CONCRETE.

THEY'RE HODGEPODGE AROUND TO SERVE SPECIFIC AREAS AS OPPOSED TO HAVING A CENTRALIZED TREATMENT. LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

IF A MUD COMES IN AND THEY SAY, HEY, WE'LL PUT IN OUR PACKAGE WATER PLANT, IT HAS TO BE BUILT TO THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT WE ASKED FOR.

THEN WHAT'S THE DRAWBACK OF THAT? AS FAR AS THE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TREATMENT PROCESS? MHM. EVERYTHING'S THE SAME, RIGHT? EVERYTHING YOU JUST KIND OF LINED OUT HERE WOULD BE JUST ON A SMALLER SCALE, RIGHT SIZE FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

THE THING WOULD BE THEN ONCE YOU DO TAKE IT OVER, IF YOU DO BRING IT TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, RIGHT, LIKE YOU SAID, WITHIN INSTEAD OF HAVING ONE OPERATOR OR TWO OPERATORS OPERATING ONE SITE, YOU'RE FIXING HALF SITES ALL OVER.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MAINTENANCE. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE EVERY CLARIFIER.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE CLASSIFIERS, MULTIPLE REMOVERS, MULTIPLE, YOU KNOW, JUST JUST THE THE MAINTENANCE OF IT BECOMES VERY HIGH.

MY CONCERN, THOUGH, IS YOU'RE ASKING CITIZENS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOREVER TO PAY FOR ALL THIS NEW GROWTH AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THE DEVELOPMENTS BUILD THEIR OWN.

AND THEY'RE ON THE HOOK FOR THAT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE NORTH.

I MEAN, IF YOU SEE ALL DOWN [INAUDIBLE], MOST OF THOSE WERE DONE ON THEIR OWN.

LIKE [INAUDIBLE] GOT ITS IMPACT FEE CITYWIDE.

MANVILLE IT'S GOT A CITYWIDE IMPACT FEE.

EVERY, EVERY CITY THAT'S GOING THROUGH WHAT ANGLETON IS GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW HAS A CITYWIDE IMPACT FEE FOR JUST THAT REASON.

THEY DO NOW, BUT IN THE BEGINNING [INAUDIBLE] AND DIDN'T ASK, [INAUDIBLE] DIDN'T GO AND BUILD A GREAT BIG WATER TREATMENT PLANT FOR THEM FOR ALL THAT FUTURE GROWTH.

THEY LET THOSE MUDS COME IN AND PUT THEIR OWN STUFF IN THERE.

AS FAR AS WATER YES, BECAUSE IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO GO AND DRILL A WELL.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S A LOT CHEAPER.

YEAH. AND NOW THEY'RE DOING THE SURFACE WATER, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

BUT THERE WERE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS.

THERE'S SMALL PACKAGE PLANTS.

YES. RIGHT. EXACTLY.

BUT IT WAS DONE ON THE DEVELOPER'S DIME, NOT ON THE CITIZENS THAT WERE ALREADY THERE.

YEAH. AND THEY SINCE GOT SMART WITH THE IMPACT FEES WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS WELL.

BUT MY CONCERN IS 63 MILLION TO THE PERSON WHO'S LIVED HERE ALL THEIR LIFE TO PAY FOR ALL THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS.

THAT'S A HARD PILL TO SWALLOW.

SO ANOTHER QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU.

DOES DANBURY HAVE A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT? YES. BECAUSE I SAW OPTION ONE, I WAS LIKE, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO DANBURY.

WE KNOW THE CONDITION OF.

NO. NO, THAT'S NOT AN OPTION.

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I THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING THERE.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

SO SAY, JOHN, THAT EVERY NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WANTS TO COME TO ANGLETON.

[01:45:06]

SO THEY CAN BUILD IT.

OF COURSE YEAH, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO COMPLY WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE ASK. SECOND.

WE'RE PRETTY MUCH TAPPED OUT, RIGHT? CONNECTIONS WISE.

TRUE. SO IF WE DON'T DO THIS, WE'RE SAYING THAT'S IT.

WELL, THERE'S NO I'M SAYING THAT IF YOU WANT TO COME HERE, YOU HAVE TO BUILD YOUR OWN.

RIGHT. BUT BUSINESSES.

AND JOHN, THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT THAT YOU KNOW THE IMPACT FEE WE'LL GET IN MORE AND I'M GOING TO BRING GRADY REED IN TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT.

AND THERE'S THINGS YOU CAN DO TO WHERE YOU SPLIT THE YOU SPLIT THE FEES UP, YOU KNOW, AND LIKE YOU SAID, THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE OTHER AMENITIES THAT COME INTO THE CITY.

YOU KNOW, YOU GET YOU GROW YOUR CHICK FIL A'S, YOUR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

YOU GET A BIGGER BASE WHEN THEY BRING IN, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF DEVELOPING PASTURES, YOU GET MORE OF A VALOREM TAX, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, MORE TAX BASE COMING IN WITH ROOFTOPS, BUILDING MORE STUFF.

SO THE 50% OF IT, WE'LL JUST DO IT THE EASY WAY.

THE EASY WAY IS CUT IT IN HALF, 50% UP FRONT THE DEVELOPERS PAY.

THE OTHER 50% IS SPREAD THROUGH THE WHOLE TAX BASE, NOT NOT JUST THE THE OLD RESIDENTS, BUT THE NEW RESIDENTS, THE NEW STUFF.

SO IT'S NOT EVERYBODY'S PAYING 50%.

IT IS A PORTION, BUT IT'S NOT A 50% PORTION.

BUT THE AMENITIES AND THINGS THAT COME IN THERE IS SOME BENEFIT THAT THESE THESE RESIDENTS ARE SEEING WHEN YOU START BRINGING IN ROOFTOPS AND BRINGING IN BUSINESSES AND BRINGING IN OPPORTUNITIES.

I'LL JUST TELL YOU, I'M NOT PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS.

I MEAN, IT'S ALL WHAT YOU WANT TO DO FOR THE FUTURE OF ANGLETON.

IF WE'RE DONE, WE'RE DONE.

AND WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE THIS ON, AND I'M NOT ANTICIPATING MOVE THIS ON TONIGHT.

BUT WE'RE TELLING DEVELOPERS NOW, NO, ON THE NORTHEAST PART OF ANGLETON THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PROVIDE CITY SERVICE TO THEM.

THAT'S BEEN MY ARGUMENT THIS WHOLE TIME, IS WE'VE WE OPENED THE FLOODGATES FOR ALL THESE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS, KNOWING GOOD AND WELL THAT WE WERE LIMITING OURSELVES ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE. THAT'S WHY YOU AND I HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

BUT WE'RE AT THE POINT OF WE'RE AT THE POINT OF WE'RE DONE.

RIGHT. SO WHAT'S WHAT'S THE FUTURE AND WHERE DO WE WANT TO GO? WHAT IS THE COST FOR ONE OF THESE DEVELOPERS TO PUT A MINI TREATMENT CENTER IN THERE.

I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE TYPICALLY THEY'RE FRACTIONAL.

THEY'RE VERY SMALL.

THEY'RE USUALLY BUILT VERY CHEAPLY OUT OF STEEL.

SO YOU HAVE IMMEDIATE CORROSION ISSUES.

THEY'RE DONE IN 20 YEARS, 25 YEARS.

IF THAT, YEAH.

WE DON'T REALLY WORK WITH THOSE SORT OF THOSE TEND TO BE MORE VENDOR LED.

A DEVELOPER WOULD CALL AND SAY, I NEED A 100,000 GALLON DAY TREATMENT PLANT THAT CAN DO THIS. AND IT SHOWS UP ON A TRUCK AND THEY SET IT AND THEY BOLT IT UP AND GO ON.

HOUSTON DID THAT A LONG TIME AGO.

THAT'S WHY HOUSTON HAS 65 WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS.

THEY LET MUDS COME UP, BUILD THE PLANT.

PLANT FAILS.

PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD IT.

THE CITY TAKES IT OVER.

AND NOW THEY'VE GOT ALL THESE TREATMENT PLANTS AROUND HOUSTON.

HOUSTON'S TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE BUT THEY'RE HAVING TO NOW GO INTO ALL THESE MUDS WHERE THESE LITTLE TREATMENT PLANTS WERE AND BUILD PUMP STATIONS AND FORCE MAINS TO PUSH IT TO ANOTHER TREATMENT PLANT.

NOW YOU DO HAVE AN INSTANCE LIKE JOHN'S TALKING ABOUT THAT THEY COME OUT AND DO A PACKAGE TREATMENT PLANT AND A WELL THAT'S OVER ON 220 WHERE THAT DEVELOPMENT OR THE TRAILER PARKS COMING IN, THEY'RE PROVIDING THEIR OWN WATER.

THEY'RE PROVIDING THEIR OWN SEWER OVER THERE.

THE CITY IS NOT. IS THAT STILL GOING IN? THEY SAY THEY ARE.

THEY SAY THEY ARE. THAT'S HIS ROAD.

IF YOU WANT TO GO SEE ONE, GO [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH. THERE YOU GO.

YOU SEE WHAT IT IS.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS THE WAY TO GO, BUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND $2 MILLION ON THEIR OWN LITTLE THING, WHY DON'T THEY PAY THE CITY THAT.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE CHIP AWAY AT THAT 60 MILLION.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WAS THE COST OF ONE OF THE SMALLER ONES.

YOU KIND OF GET AN IDEA.

YEAH. I CAN GET THAT.

WE CAN GET SOMETHING BACK TO YOU, BECAUSE TYPICALLY.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO SOMETHING DEVELOPS IN THE ETJ.

[01:50:03]

BUT AFTER WHAT OUR DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN, WHEN THE MUD DISSOLVES, THEY COME INTO THE CITY AND BECOME A CITY LIMITS NOW AND THEIR ASSETS, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, ARE NO GOOD.

I'VE SEEN THEM ON 288 RODEO PALMS. THEY DO HAVE THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT'S IN THE CORNER RIGHT OFF [INAUDIBLE] ROAD. AND HERE LATELY I'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF VEHICLES AROUND THAT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, SO THEY MUST BE DOING SOMETHING TO IT.

AND IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 20 YEARS OLD.

THAT'S HOW LONG RODEO PALM PROBABLY BEEN UP THERE.

IT'S ABOUT 20 YEARS.

I'M GUESSING EITHER THEY'RE EXPANDING IT OR THEY'RE WORKING IT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE [INAUDIBLE]. THE NEW ONE IN BONNIE JUST GOT BUILT.

SO BUT LIKE YOU SAID, LIKE HOUSTON ACQUIRING ALL THESE MUD FACILITIES, FOR BETTER WORD, NOW THAT THEY'RE CATCHING UP OR TRYING TO CATCH UP, THAT'S QUITE A BIG EXPENSE.

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50 YEARS AGO, THE CLEAN WATER ACT WAS ENACTED, WHICH FORCED ALL EVERYONE TO GO TO SECONDARY WASTEWATER TREATMENT, WHICH IS SORT OF THE BIG BOXES, THE MIDDLE OF OUR PLANT.

WHEN YOU HAVE PLANTS SORT OF SCATTERED AROUND, IT BECOMES A CHALLENGE WHEN FUTURE REGULATIONS, FUTURE WATER QUALITY LIMITS ARE ENACTED TO BE ABLE TO TREAT IT.

BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE BECAUSE THE NEXT THING THAT'S ON THE RADAR FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS IS WHAT'S CALLED NUTRIENT REMOVAL.

IT'S THINGS LIKE PHOSPHORUS AND NITROGEN.

IT'S THINGS THAT CAUSE THINGS TO GROW IN THE GULF.

IT CAUSES BACKED UP POLLUTANTS TO GROW IN THE WATERSHEDS, IN THE STREAMS. CURRENTLY, VERY FEW PLANTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS HAVE WHAT'S CALLED NUTRIENT REMOVAL.

IT'S THE BIG PLANTS.

AUSTIN'S WALNUT CREEK, WHICH IS 100 MGD PLANT HAS THAT.

SO THE REGULATORY FRONT OVER THE NEXT 50 YEARS WE DON'T HAVE A REALLY GOOD PICTURE ON.

BUT THE STATE IS STARTING TO ENACT NUTRIENT REMOVAL REQUIREMENTS ON LARGER CITIES THAT WILL EVENTUALLY CASCADE DOWN.

IN A CENTRALIZED PLANT, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEAL WITH THE NUTRIENTS AT ONE LOCATION AND WE'VE SAID WE'VE ACTUALLY HAVE THIS SET UP.

I DIDN'T GET INTO IT A WHOLE LOT, BUT THIS IS SET UP FOR SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS THE NUTRIENT REMOVAL REQUIREMENTS, WHEREAS IF YOU HAVE THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE, IT COULD BE A REAL CHALLENGE AND I FULLY GRASP THE CONCERN AND THE COST.

I GET THAT. I REALLY DO.

IT'S CONCERNING, BUT JUST KIND OF HELPING YOU PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE OF THE CHALLENGES YOU'D HAVE 20 YEARS FROM NOW, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT BUILDING A BUNCH OF PUMP STATIONS TO PUSH THE FLOW TO A CONSOLIDATED PLACE.

PUMP STATIONS ALSO MEAN FORCE MEANS.

THEY PUMP STATIONS FAIL, THEY REQUIRE POWER, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE NUTRIENT.

SO ANYWAYS, SO JUST A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE.

I THINK THE PLAN IS GREAT AND THAT DEFINITELY ON AND SUPPORTIVE AND UNDERSTANDING BUT IT'S YEAH, IF WE WERE REPLACING ONE THAT WE ALREADY HAD, I WOULD BE, HEY, WE'VE GOT TO DO THIS. BUT THE PROBLEM IS TO ME STILL ASKING ALL THESE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE TO PAY FOR ALL THIS NEW GROWTH THAT TO ME, WHAT ARE THEY GETTING? BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY COMMERCIAL COME IN YET UNLESS YOU COUNT STARBUCKS AND.

A LOT OF WATER. ALL THE RESIDENTS SEE IS A BUNCH OF HOUSES GOING UP AND THEY'RE SAYING, WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM? SO IT'D BE ANOTHER THING IF WE'D SEEN SOME OF THAT COMMERCIAL GROWTH, THEN RESIDENTS WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE UNDERSTANDING OF IT.

BUT WE HAVEN'T.

AND I APPRECIATE JOHN THROWING THE HOOK OUT THERE ON CHICK-FIL-A AGAIN.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE GET THAT EVERY MEETING SOMEBODY THROWS THE HOOK OF CHICK FIL A, WHICH I CONGRATULATE JACKSON, I GUESS.

I ALWAYS HEAR CHIC FIL A AND OLIVE GARDEN.

THE TWO I KEEP HEARING OVER AND OVER.

WELL, SINCE I FIRST GOT INTO THE WORKFORCE HERE IN TOWN, INVOLVED WITH THE ENGINEERING AND CITY WORK AND WHATNOT.

BUT EVERY 10 TO 20 YEARS THE TOPIC CAME UP.

PEOPLE, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WE'RE GOING TO NEED ANOTHER SEWER PLANT.

AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET TO EXPAND.

IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE KEEP HAVING BABIES, OKAY? AND THEY LIKE MOVING HERE AND EVERY PERSON CREATES SEWER AND THAT HAS TO BE TREATED.

I FULLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT'S GOING INTO THIS.

[01:55:02]

YOUR QUESTION ABOUT A SMALL PLANT.

WILL A SMALL PLANT COST LESS BUT A SMALL PLANT COSTS MORE PER GALLON TO BUILD.

BUT IT'S [INAUDIBLE] IT COSTS MORE PER TREATMENT GALLON TO BUILD THAN SOMETHING LIKE THIS. YOU'RE BUILDING SOMETHING FOR $45 MILLION.

IT TREATS 2 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.

AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THESE PLANTS OF 50 OR 100,000 GALLONS.

I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST THROWING OF IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL THEY TREAT A DAY.

AND YES, A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE.

BUT YOU'RE THOSE PLANTS ARE SERVING MAYBE 100 HOMES.

SO. YEAH.

I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE A BIG NUMBER, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT COST IN TODAY'S DOLLARS. YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

IT'LL BE WHAT IT COST IN THOSE DOLLARS.

WE ARE EXCEEDING GETTING CLOSE TO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR PERMITTED LOAD IS OUT AT THE EXISTING PLANT.

BUT WE RUN ABOUT 2 MILLION RIGHT NOW.

BUT PERMITS.

AT 3.8.

YEAH, BUT HOW MUCH CAN ACTUALLY HANDLE RIGHT NOW? WE DO HAVE OVERLOAD FOR RAIN AND STUFF UP TO 18 MILLION.

YEAH. [INAUDIBLE].

IT'S ALSO BEEN A BIG HAD BEEN A FORMER BIG PUSH IS TO GET RID OF THE INFLOW INFILTRATION THAT COMES INTO OUR SYSTEM.

WE'VE TAKEN SOME INITIATIVE TO THAT AND THEN BACKED OFF.

WE'RE STILL GETTING THE INFLOWS OUT THERE.

[INAUDIBLE] DROP THAT COMES TO THAT PLANT HAS TO GET SOMETHING, HAS TO HAPPEN TO IT LEGALLY. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, INFLOW IS RAINWATER JUST STUFF THAT COMES IN? IT'S NOT NECESSARILY INITIALLY STARTING IN THE PIPES.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND THE INFILTRATION IS USUALLY GROUNDWATER THAT INFILTRATES INTO THE PIPES THROUGH DISJOINTED, BROKEN, WHATEVER, THROUGH MANHOLES THAT MAY BE LEAKING AND SUCH AS THAT. I CONTEND I HAVE CONTENDED THAT INFLOW IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CULPRITS BECAUSE THERE ARE LOTS OF CLEAN OUT TOPS THAT ARE ON AROUND TOWN.

[8.06 Consider and Take Possible Action to Authorize, Negotiate, and Enter Into Agreements with Recommended Pool of Vendors for Social and Emotional Learning Professional Development, Consulting, and Instructional Resources for Districtwide Use (Not to Exceed $5,000,000 Over Four Years Including Renewal Options / General Operating / Special Revenue / Bond Funds) (Consent Item 7.08, Pulled by Trustees Joyce Foreman and Justin Henry)]

IT'S NOT JUST A TEXAS PROBLEM.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW JUST ON 64 MILLION.

CHRIS HILL. WHAT? WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO OUR WASTEWATER, OUR WATER RATES, IF WE HAD TO GO FOR THAT KIND OF BOND? I JUST I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND.

THAT YOU GOT TO TAKE THE PODIUM MICROPHONE.

IT WOULD DEPEND ON HOW MANY NEW HOMES ARE ADDED.

AND YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY TAKE OUR CURRENT HOMES AND YOU COULD DO SOME MATH, BUT IT OBVIOUSLY WOULD. IT'S GOING TO CAUSE IT TO INCREASE.

I THINK UNTIL UNTIL THE CAPACITY IS FULLY USED AND THEN IT'LL START IT'LL COME DOWN, GO UP AT THE BEGINNING AND COME DOWN.

IT'D BE NICE FOR THE COUNCIL TO SEE A SCHEDULE OF WHAT THAT WOULD COST, KIND OF AT THE SAME INTEREST RATE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THIS OTHER BOND JUST TO KIND OF I THINK WE SHOULD BE EDUCATED ON THAT ANSWER.

YEAH. RIGHT.

AND WE'RE ASSUMING WE'RE GOING TO THAT.

THAT'S THE 50% WE'RE PAYING FOR WITH OUR CURRENT RATES.

GOTCHA. JUST SEE THAT [INAUDIBLE].

WE CAN. I CAN LOOK AT CALCULATING, PUT SOME CALCULATIONS TOGETHER.

OKAY. I THINK I MEAN, THE POINTS HAVE BEEN MADE AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO GO ABOUT DOING THIS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT MAY JUST BE AN ISSUE THAT THERE'S PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS ON THAT MAP.

AND YOU MAY HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY.

[02:00:01]

ABSOLUTELY. TO PLAY THE GAME AND.

ALL THIS OTHER STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING HERE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST IT'S JUST GOING TO BE HAVE TO BE HAVE TO BOW ARCH OUR BACK A LITTLE, IF YOU WILL.

ARCH YOUR BACK A LITTLE AND PUT YOUR CHEST OUT A LITTLE AND JUST STAND TALL AND SAY, NO, THAT'S JUST PART OF THE PART OF THE DEAL.

JUST NOT SAY THAT WE CAN'T BE IN JOINT.

THERE CAN'T BE SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, THE CITY PAYING IN TOO WHETHER BONDING OUT MORE DEBT OR WHAT, BUT IT'S JUST GOT TO BE A PART OF IT.

ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE COMMENTS DIRECTED TOWARDS JOHN AND HIS COUNTERPART HERE? ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU. VERY INFORMATIVE.

GO AHEAD. HYPOTHETICAL.

IF SO, TECHNICALLY, IF WE SAY YES TOMORROW, IT'S FIVE, SIX YEARS OUT.

RIGHT. IT'S AT LEAST FOUR.

RIGHT. WHEN WOULD OUR CURRENT WATER WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT HAVE A CRITICAL FAILURE TECHNICALLY? WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF IT HAVING HAPPENING IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS? THE THING THAT THIS TAKES A LOOK AT IS WE CAN'T GET SEWER TO THE TREATMENT PLANT FROM THE NORTH SIDE. THE STATION 44 IS COMPLETELY MAXED OUT.

THE WAY THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM WORKS RIGHT NOW IS THERE USED TO BE A TREATMENT PLANT RIGHT THERE ON HENDERSON, RIGHT THERE, KIND OF WHERE THE WHERE THE WHERE THE SEWER STATION IS NOW. THAT WAS DECOMMISSIONED.

AND AT THE TIME THEY PUT A [INAUDIBLE] STATION IN BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS THE CHEAPEST THING TO DO AT THE TIME.

AND IT WORKED 20, 30 YEARS PERFECT.

AND THEY PUT A FORCE MAIN THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF TOWN, FIVE MILES TO THE OYSTER CREEK TREATMENT PLANT. SO THERE'S TWO PARTS OF THAT.

THERE'S A [INAUDIBLE] STATION ITSELF WITH PUMPS AND THE CAPACITY OF THE STATION, WET WELL, AND THEN THERE'S THE FORCE MAIN.

THE RIGHT NOW [INAUDIBLE] STATION 44.

THE WET WELL DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PUT ANOTHER PUMP IN THE PUMP MORE THROUGH.

THE OTHER THING IS THE EXISTING FORCE MAIN DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ACCEPT ANY MORE FLOW. ONCE YOU GET ABOVE LIKE SIX FEET PER SECOND BECAUSE YOUR HEAD LOSSES ARE VELOCITY SQUARED, YOUR EFFICIENCIES GO WAY DOWN.

IT'S JUST DRIVEN DOWN BECAUSE YOUR VELOCITY SQUARED.

SO ANYTHING OVER SIX IS WHEN YOU START REALLY HAVING PROBLEMS, YOU START BECOMING INEFFICIENT AND YOUR PUMPS GET WAY BIGGER AND YOU'RE NOT PUSHING AS MUCH.

SO YOU NEED ANOTHER FORCE MAIN FOR SURE.

AND WE COULD MAYBE DO SOMETHING.

WE LOOKED AT MAYBE FLOODING.

THERE'S A THERE'S A DRY WELL THERE THAT MAYBE POTENTIALLY WE COULD FLOOD.

BUT THE FORCE MAIN IS THE MAIN THING.

SO WE CAN'T GET FLOWS FROM THE NORTH SIDE TO THE TREATMENT PLANT RIGHT NOW.

WIND ROSE GREEN HAS BOUGHT ALL THE CAPACITY UP FOR IT RIGHT NOW.

BUT THE CURRENT PLANT SO IF I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, WE'VE GOT $10 MILLION WORTH OF LIFT STATION ISSUES THAT THAT THING'S COLLAPSING.

WE'RE DOING BAR SCREEN IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH ARE OVERALL HELP THE SYSTEM.

REMEMBER, WE'RE IN SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC HERE.

WE'RE TAKING OUT THE SLUDGE EVERY 90 DAYS AND DE-WATERING IT AND WHATEVER.

THAT'S INEFFICIENT.

AND SO WE'VE GOT SIGNIFICANT ISSUES IN THAT CURRENT PLANT.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF ALLUDING TO, IS OUR CURRENT FACILITIES AREN'T EXACTLY OPERATING. THAT TOP POTENTIAL.

MM HMM. AND YOU KNOW, YOU SAID WE HAVE, WHAT, 2 MILLION OR WE'RE OPERATING AT TWO RIGHT NOW CAPACITY POSSIBLE 3.8.

THAT'S WHAT WITHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO ONCE THAT DEVELOPS OUT, YOU KNOW WE DON'T.

RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA GET THE FLOW OF IT.

BUT IS THAT 3.8 EVEN FEASIBLE WITH CURRENT CONDITIONS OR WORSENING CONDITIONS OF THE FACILITY. AND WE DON'T WANT TO PUSH IT TO THAT.

RIGHT. YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THAT THAT SEWER PLANT, BECAUSE THE ONLY THING THAT THIS IS GOING TO RESOLVE IS THE NORTH SIDE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO FIX ANYBODY ELSE.

NO, I KNOW THAT. I KNOW THAT.

BUT COULD ALSO AT SOME POINT COULD SOME OF THE.

IF WE WENT THAT ROUTE, RELIEF COULD BE GIVEN TO THEM, THAT SIDE OF TOWN AND KIND OF HELP AND PUSH TO THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN.

THAT'S CORRECT. THE WAY THAT WE ARE RIGHT NOW, PROJECTING TO FEED THE INITIAL PLANT IS PUT

[02:05:05]

SO IT WOULD CUT THAT LOADING OFF OF THE ORIGINAL PLANT.

AND THERE'S SOME OTHER STATIONS THAT WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT REDIRECTING THAT WAY AS WE GROW OUT, MAYBE THE COUNTY JAIL, THEY GET OFF.

I MEAN, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE THAT ARE OPTIONS.

THAT'S ONE POSITIVE CONDUIT GOING TOWARD A NORTH SIDE LIVE STATION IS GIVING SOME RELIEF TO THIS SIDE, MOVING IT THAT AWAY, HELPING SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME ISSUES OF MOVING THE WASTE PRODUCT THROUGH OUR LINES.

I WOULD BE INTERESTED, CHRIS, AND JUST I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE WORKED IN OVER WORK, BUT THROUGH YOUR CONTACTS, THROUGH YOUR NETWORK, THIS AIN'T THE ONLY PROBLEM THAT THAT WE'VE

[8.08 Consider and Take Possible Action to Approve the Investment Training Providers for Fiscal Year 2021-2022 (Consent Item 7.30, Pulled by Trustees Joyce Foreman and Justin Henry)]

ASK THEM, WHAT DID THEY DO? HOW DID THEY APPROACH DEVELOPMENT? HOW DID THEY GO INTO AN AGREEMENT? WHAT WAS THE GIVE AND TAKE? AND I'M WITH TRAVIS AS WELL.

YOU GOT TO PLAY TO PAY TO PLAY.

SO THERE'S GOT TO BE MECHANISMS AND TOOLS THAT PEOPLE HAVE USED THAT DOESN'T PUT THE BURDEN STRICTLY ON 633 SOUTH REMINGTON, THAT'S LIVED HERE 22 YEARS IN THAT HOUSEHOLD.

SO I GET IT.

I UNDERSTAND. BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE LIKE CHRIS SAYS, ARE WE DONE? THAT'S IT.

CITY OF ANGLETON, NO MORE.

WE'LL BE 20,000 FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S A HARD PILL TO SWALLOW TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.

BUT THERE COULD BE THAT COMMERCIAL PIECE THAT DOES ARRIVE THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO BE A BIG WATER USER.

LET'S HOW DO WE GET THERE? AND THEN THAT MAY NO, GOING TOWARD THE RESIDENT, ALL GOING TO THE DEVELOPER OR THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER WHICH WE A GREAT THING TO HAVE.

BUT YET YOU'VE GOT A BIG NETWORK, CHRIS.

I KNOW. SO THAT'S THE QUESTION TO THE HOTELS, THE ROUND ROCKS, THE THOSE CITIES THAT WE SAW BLOW UP, YOU KNOW, AND GET BIG.

YOU KNOW, [INAUDIBLE] IS THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE I'D GO TALK TO.

PEOPLE SAY DON'T BE LIKE [INAUDIBLE], SO LET'S GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I'VE HEARD THAT. [INAUDIBLE] WOULD BE THE FIRST TOWN I'D GO TO TO GO TALK TO BECAUSE THEY EXPERIENCED THE SAME THING.

LESSONS LEARNED. YEAH.

THEY STARTED OUT A LITTLE TOWN SMALLER THAN US.

AND THEN NOW THEY'RE HUGE.

WE WENT TO [INAUDIBLE] AND THEY JUST BUILT LIKE A $50 MILLION SURPLUS.

JUST NOW.

TEN YEARS AGO, TEN YEARS AGO, PROBABLY.

MANVILLE IS DOING ONE.

I'M PRETTY SURE MANVEL IS DOING.

THEY'VE GOT THEIRS INTEGRATED WITH A PARK AND A THE SYSTEM.

IT'S QUITE LARGE I MEAN, I REMEMBER I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE ACREAGE THAT WAS BEING USED.

IT WAS ABOUT 22 YEARS AGO, 23 YEARS AGO.

THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THEIR OWN WATER SYSTEM UP THERE, THE HODGEPODGE OF LINES THAT RAN THROUGH THE PASTURE AND YOU KNOW, SO IT WAS.

I'D LIKE YOU TO PUT ONE OF THOSE SITES BACK UP THERE.

[8.09 Consider and Take Possible Action to Authorize, Negotiate and Enter into an Agreement with Argus Claims Management, Inc. for Workers' Compensation 504 Health Care Program Manager (Not to Exceed $2,300,115 Over Five Years Including Renewal Options / General Operating/Special Revenue/ Bond Funds) (Consent Item 7.33, Pulled by Trustees Joyce Foreman and Justin Henry)]

A MICROPHONE. ONE, I DON'T THINK FELDER WOULD LIKE THAT WITH THE NORTH [INAUDIBLE], IT'S GOING TO GO RIGHT TO ITS PROPERTY.

NO, THAT'S OKAY.

GO TO. GO TO FOUR.

NOT THAT I'M PROMOTING THIS, BUT THIS.

THE PICTURE SHOWS SOMETHING THAT I WAS HOPING TO SHARE.

EVEN DOING THIS NUMBER TWO, THAT WAS SHOWN ON PREVIOUS PICTURE, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF TAKING ALL THIS AREA RIGHT IN HERE AND TAKE IT UP THERE.

THIS AREA, EVERYTHING SOUTHEAST OF 35, EVERYTHING IN TOWN GOES OUT TOWARDS THE CREEK RIGHT NOW. BUT WITH SOME REDIRECTING FORCE MAINS ASSIGNING A COUPLE OF LIFT STATIONS TO GO THAT WAY.

YOU COULD TAKE ALL THIS AREA OUT OF HERE AND PUT IT UP THERE.

IT RELIEVES THAT MUCH PRESSURE OFF THE OYSTER CREEK PLANT.

IT FREES UP CAPACITY OUT THERE.

SO THERE'S SOME GIVE AND TAKE IN SOME OF THESE THINGS.

JUST THERE'S SOME OTHER OPTIONS.

AND WHAT WHEN THEY COULDN'T SHOW EVERYTHING THAT THEY DID THE BEST THEY COULD.

THANK YOU. JOHN, I HOPE THAT HELPS YOU GO WELL.

SO THAT IS A LITTLE BIT THAT IT'S OKAY TO A LITTLE BIT ON THE RESIDENT THAT MAY HELP THEM

[8.10 Consider and Take Possible Action to Authorize, Negotiate and Enter into Agreements with Recommended Pool of Vendors for Job Order Contracting Services for General Construction in Conjunction with the Bond Program and Other Projects Managed by Construction Services (Not to Exceed $50,000,000 Over Five Years Including Renewal Options / General Operating/Special Revenue/Bond Funds) (Consent Item 7.43, Pulled Due to New Agenda Item)]

WELL, I MEAN, IF I MEAN, IF I MAKE AN ARGUMENT AND MAYBE I'M ARGUING BOTH SIDES HERE, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SOME RELIEF FOR CURRENT RESIDENTS WOULD MEAN THAT THEY WOULD

[02:10:06]

DID YOU TAX RATE [INAUDIBLE]? I MEAN, JOHN I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET THERE. I AGREE WITH YOU.

THERE'S NO OTHER WAY.

I MEAN. JOHN IT'S JUST A FIGURE OF WORDS.

GOING TO BE A BIG BOND OR BIG BOND OR I DON'T KNOW.

BUT LIKE I SAID, WE'D STILL EXPECT THAT THIS IS NOT ALL THE CITIZENS PUTTING IN.

THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE A JOINT VENTURE.

OH, MOST DEFINITELY. OH, YEAH.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED. GO TO THE OTHER CITIES AND SEE HOW DID THEY MASSAGE THAT? I'M SPEAKING OUT OF.

I MAY KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, SO.

NO, YOU'RE GOOD.

NO, YOU'RE GOOD. NO.

BUT YOU ALSO GOT TO LOOK, IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ON THE NORTH SIDE, JEFF, [INAUDIBLE], IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ON THE NORTH SIDE AND WE SENDING ALL THIS SEWER DOWN THROUGH TOWN, WE'RE GOING TO REHAB PROBABLY FIVE OR SIX MAJOR LIFT STATION, MAKE THEM BIGGER.

AND I'M TALKING NOT JUST CHANGING THE PUMPS OUT, BUT DIGGING BIGGER, WET WELLS AND EVERYTHING TO GET ALL THIS SEWER TO THE EXISTING PLANT NOW.

SO IT'S BETTER TO GO AHEAD AND TRY TO SEND IT UP IN ORDER TO SAVE SOME ROOM OR THE WEST SIDE PLANT. SO WE'RE GOING TO SPEND SOME MONEY SOMEWHERE SO.

I AGREE. AND THAT'S JUST KEEPING IN MY MIND IT MAY BE A BIGGER PACKAGE ISSUE TO ADD ON NOT

[8.11 Consider and Take Possible Action to Waive the Required Notification Date as Stated in the Selection Process in Board Policy EHBJ (Local) Special Programs Innovative and Magnet Programs and Approve and Ratify the Adjusted Notification Date (No Financial Impact) (Consent Item 7.46, Pulled Due to New Agenda Item)]

BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HOSPITAL.

I MEAN, IT GOES TO A LIFT STATION RIGHT THERE.

THEN IT GOES TO NUMBER EIGHT ON [INAUDIBLE], THEN GOES TO NUMBER SEVEN, THEN IT GOES TO NUMBER ONE. SO THAT'S HOW MANY LIFT STATIONS IT TAKES TO GET SEWER TO.

AREN'T THOSE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT WE JUST TALKED.

SOME OF THEM WE CHANGE IN A PUMP.

SO WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT. WE'RE NOT UPGRADING THE WET WELLS.

MAKING THEM BIGGER NOTHING.

WHY? SO I HAVE TO ASK YOU, WHY WOULD WE NOT DO THAT JUST FOR RELIEF SAKE? YOU TALK TO THEM ALL YOUR MONEY, PROBABLY ON ONE WET WELL.

A COUPLE.

MILLION DOLLARS OR SO. REMEMBER HE WAS SAYING 600,000 JUST TO DO A PUMP REPLACEMENT AND SOME STUFF. NOW YOU'RE ADDING A WET WELL.

THAT'S PROBABLY ANOTHER FOUR OR 500,000.

IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE NOW.

VERY EXPENSIVE. BUT 4 TO $500000 TO BUILD A.

YOU GOT A SINKING CASE ON CONSTRUCTION PROBABLY SIX, SEVEN.

YEAH, BUT I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM AN ROI STANDPOINT.

WHAT'S YOUR TIME FRAME? I MEAN, HOW MUCH IS IT BUY YOU? I MEAN, YOU SPEND AN EXTRA MILLION HERE.

HOW MANY MORE YEARS DOES IT GET YOU VERSUS 63 MILLION? AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE IT GETS US 50 ON THAT.

I MEAN, I BELIEVE THAT IT'LL LAST 50 YEARS, BUT I'M SAYING I THINK IF WE REACH CAPACITY WAY BEFORE THAT, SO THAT OTHER SIDE YOU'RE GOING TO FLIP, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING THAT MONEY PROBABLY BEFORE THAT 50 YEARS IS UP.

SO. WELL, I MEAN, AND THAT'S NOT COUNTING THE SIZE OF THE [INAUDIBLE].

MIGHT NOT HANDLE IT FROM LIFT STATION TO LIFT STATION.

JEFF YOU SAID A MOUTHFUL RIGHT THERE.

YOU COULD INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE LIFT STATION.

OF COURSE. WITH THE PIPE THAT'S BRINGING THIS TO THE LIFT STATION IS TOO SMALL OR A BIGGER LIFT STATION. SO YOU END UP JUST THEN YOU WOULD END UP REBUILDING YOUR WHOLE INTERCEPTOR SYSTEM.

SO IT'S LIKE, GOLLY, YOU KNOW, WHY DID I SIGN UP FOR THIS? YOU KNOW, BUT. WELL, I MEAN, I WAS GOING TO TALK TO ABOUT JOHN'S POINT ABOUT WHETHER IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR 50 YEARS VERSUS IT WOULD PROVIDE FOR 50 YEARS.

AND I MEAN, I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S A MAGIC BULLET.

I MEAN, THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY ABOUT THAT.

I MEAN, NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT YOU ARE, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT WE SPEND THIS KIND OF MONEY AND THEN WE WOULD KIND OF HOPEFULLY HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE.

BUT THE REALITY IS, IS WE'LL STILL BE DOING MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP AND ALL EVERYTHING ELSE. SO IT'S NICE TO THINK ABOUT IT AS, LIKE I SAID, AS A SILVER BULLET OR A MAGIC BULLET THAT WOULD ANSWER A LOT OF OUR PROBLEMS, BUT IT WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE SOME PROBLEMS, BUT IT WOULD STILL HAVE TO ADDRESS ALL THE CURRENT.

I'M SURE CITY COUNCIL.

BUT 35 YEARS FROM NOW HAVING THE SAME DISCUSSION.

YEAH. 15.

YEAH. SO, MARK, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN WE DECIDED TO CHANGE THAT LIFT STATION AT HENDERSON AND MOVE IT TO THE [INAUDIBLE] IN 2009 EIGHT.

SOMEWHERE. IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE WHERE WE DECIDED, OH, WE'LL SAVE A LOT OF MONEY.

WE'LL JUST FORCE MAIN IT OVER.

HERE I AM ON COUNCIL AGAIN IN 2022, TALKING ABOUT HOW WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.

WE THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO GET US 15, 20 YEARS.

YOU SHOULD HAVE BUILT A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY THEN EITHER.

WE DID NOT HAVE THE MONEY.

[02:15:02]

WE STILL HAVE $10 MILLION IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE AT THE ONE OUT THERE STILL.

SO EVEN IF YOU DO THE 63 OVER HERE, YOU STILL GOT TO SPEND 10 MILLION OVER HERE.

IT'S NOT A ZERO SUM GAME.

I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU BUILD A BRAND NEW LIPS SEWER PLANT.

YOU STILL HAVE ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW THAT MAKES MAJOR TOUCH UPS.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE COSTS ARE STILL GOING TO BE THERE, BUT YOU'RE PUTTING LESS WEAR ON THE ALREADY STRESSED INFRASTRUCTURE.

RIGHT. BUT I MEAN, THERE'S STILL [INAUDIBLE].

STILL BE. OH, ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE NO MATTER WHAT.

I'M JUST SAYING. WE'RE STILL GOING TO.

THIS ISN'T. THIS ISN'T A FIX NECESSARILY.

I DON'T MIND BEING BEAT UP.

IT'S OKAY. IT'S JUST THE FACTS.

WELL, I THINK WE TOLD THE ANGLETON UNIVERSITY STUDENT IT'S ONLY A $308 MILLION PROBLEM.

RIGHT. YEAH. THERE YOU GO.

GREAT DISCUSSION. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR INFORMATION.

WE'LL CHEW ON IT SOME MORE AND WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.

HOW DO YOU EAT A ELEPHANT.

THAT'S RIGHT. ONE BITE AT A TIME.

MR. JOE NEEDS TO FIND US A BUNCH OF MONEY SOMEWHERE, GIVE IT TO US AND, YOU KNOW, [INAUDIBLE]. ALL RIGHT, NUMBER TEN DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT TO HTI CONSTRUCTION LLC FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] INTERSECTION DRAINAGE PROJECT AND AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE [INAUDIBLE] REVIEW.

MR. PETERSON OR MR. CHRIS [INAUDIBLE]? ALL RIGHT.

RECENTLY WE HAVE HAD A BIT OF OPENING FOR THE PROJECT OVER ON [INAUDIBLE] STREET.

THIS IS GOING TO BE TO CULVERT IN THE EXISTING DITCH, PUT IN A SIDEWALK.

INCREASE THE TURNING RADIUS ON [INAUDIBLE] STREET AND PROVIDE A SIDEWALK TO THE BUS STOP.

KIND OF FIX THAT AREA UP TO WHERE WE CAN TURN A LITTLE BIT EASIER INTO THAT INTERSECTION.

WE RECEIVED TWO BIDS.

THE LOW BIDDER WAS HTI CAME IN WITH A BID OF $156,605.

HTI HAS DONE MULTIPLE PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF ANGLETON.

THERE ARE GOOD CONTRACTOR.

THE REFERENCES WE CHECKED WERE GOOD.

WE ACTUALLY HAD ESTIMATED THE PROJECT TO BE ABOUT 180,000, SO THEY CAME IN UNDER BUDGET.

SO WITH THAT, WE RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY AWARD THE [INAUDIBLE] DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS TO HTI FOR $146,605.

EXCITING. THIS IS GOING TO GO.

THIS IS REALLY GOING TO HELP THAT AREA, I THINK.

AND IT'S NICE TO SEE SOMETHING COME UNDER BUDGET.

THANK YOU, JOHN. OR HTI, MR. MAYOR. I MOVE WE AWARD HTI CONSTRUCTION LLC, THE PARISH INTERSECTION DRAINAGE PROJECT FOR THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF $156,605.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM WRIGHT.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND WITH SOME COMMENTS, PLEASE.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

NOW WE'RE IN DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE CONCERN ABOUT TAKING CARE OF THIS THIS INTERSECTION.

YOU KNOW, THIS TOTAL FEE FOR THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE OVER $200,000 WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE.

YOU'VE GOT THE DESIGN COSTS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THIS OTHER GEOTECHNICAL FEES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN INVOICED TO US YET.

JUST THE POINT IS THAT SMALL PROJECTS COST A LOT PER PROJECT.

YES. ONE OF THE FIRST JOBS I DID WHEN I GOT BACK TO ANGLETON WAS THE NORTH WALKER CONCRETE STREET OVER THERE.

AND THAT IS.

THAT'S NICE. I MEAN, I'M NOT PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK, BUT FOR THAT COMMUNITY OVER THERE, THAT'S NICE.

I'D LIKE TO SEE US CONCENTRATE ON SEVERAL BLOCKS.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE SPENDING A BUNCH OF MONEY TALKING ABOUT. NO, I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT.

SO CONSIDER THAT IN FUTURE FUTURE PROJECTS, BECAUSE WELL IT HELPS.

TRYING TO GET AS MUCH BANG FOR THE BUCK AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

ANOTHER POINT, JOHN.

ASK HTI TO GO BACK AND REVISE THEIR REFERENCES.

[02:20:10]

SO I DON'T THINK Y'ALL CALLED HIM.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE WE WERE TRYING TO EXPEDITE THIS FROM WHEN WE OPENED IT.

SO WE USE THE ONES WE DID FOR PARRISH STREET.

I MEAN, FOR MILLER STREET, THEY GOT MILLER.

SO WE JUST USE THE SAME REFERENCES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. BOOTH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? MR. MAYOR. YES.

I WANT TO RECOMMEND THAT WE AMEND THE MOTION TO ADD AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE. THE CONTRACT UPON LEGAL REVIEW.

MR. WRIGHT. I'M IN MY MOTION.

MR. BOOTH? YES, SIR.

OKAY, WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

AND JUST ALSO FOR JUST REFERENCE, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT AREA THAT IS ALSO GOING TO BUILD 300 FEET OF SIDEWALK OVER THERE.

SO, NO, IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT, BUT STILL IT'S 300 FEET OF SIDEWALK.

PEOPLE GOING TO LOOK HOW MUCH THAT COSTS AND IT'S PRETTY PRICEY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMING? HTI, I WANT TO SAY I TALKED TO THEIR CONSTRUCTION GUY THE OTHER DAY.

HE WAS OUT ABOUT CLOSE TO MY HOUSE AND THEY JUST DID SOME NEW SIDEWALKS OVER THERE.

AND I MEAN, THEY WERE IN AND OUT WITHIN ABOUT TWO WEEKS AT MOST.

AND THE RESIDENTS OVER THERE ARE VERY EXCITED.

AND THEY ACTUALLY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF COMING BACK AND PUTTING THE SAND IN AROUND AND FIXING THE YARDS WHERE THEY WERE WORKING.

BECAUSE THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS IS SOME OF THESE CONTRACTORS COME IN AND THEY LEAVE RUTS OR MOUNDS OF DIRT OR WHATEVER THESE GUYS CAME IN AND I MEAN, THEY WERE QUICK. THEN A WEEK THEY HAD THAT UP, DOWN AND FIX SOME OTHER THINGS.

AND THE LADY ASKED HER, ASKED THEM, CAN YOU BUILD THIS? SHE HAD A TRENCH WHERE SHE WAS TRYING TO DRAIN TO.

AND SHE ASKED THEM, SHE SAID, CAN YOU PLEASE DO IT? HE GOES, MA'AM, I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.

AND BEFORE THEY LEFT THAT DAY, THEY ALREADY HAD A NEW TRENCH BUILT FOR HER.

SO THAT ON THEIR OWN DIME.

WELL, THAT'S PROBABLY THE GUYS THAT WILL PROBABLY I KNOW I READ THEIR RESUMES.

THEY GREW UP IN A COMPANY CALLED [INAUDIBLE].

[INAUDIBLE] WAS A COMPANY WHO WAS HEADQUARTERED OVER THERE IN ROSENBERG, AND THEY DID LOTS OF LOTS OF WORK FOR US.

YEAH. AND THEY WERE THE KIND OF FIRM YOU DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO ASK THEM TO DO IT LIKE THE THAT'S WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH, THAT ATTITUDE.

THEY'RE GOOD. IT'S GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE POST SAME SIGN.

WHEW, ALL THOSE OPPOSE THE SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, JOHN AND JEFF.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG. NUMBER 11 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE FROM HTI ENGINEERING SERVICES INC TO PREPARE A NEEDS AND BOUNDS WITH AN EXHIBIT TO IDENTIFY A DRAINAGE EASEMENT. MR. JOHN. YES.

ON THE PACKAGE ONE AT THE INTERSECTION OF RIDGECREST AND DOWNEY.

WHEN WE DID THE SURVEY OF IT, IT BECAME APPARENT THAT A PORTION OF THE EXISTING STORM SEWER IS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY ONTO THE SCHOOL PROPERTY.

SO AS PART OF OUR PROJECT, WE'RE GOING TO UPSIZE THAT STORM SEWER.

IT'S EASIER TO GO BACKWARD WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE'S SOME TIE INS WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO DOWNING.

WE CAN LOWER THE PIPE OR WE NEED TO MAKE IT BIGGER.

SO WE'D LIKE TO PUT IT BACK WHERE IT IS.

SO ONCE WE IDENTIFIED IT, WE WENT AHEAD AND TALKED TO THE SCHOOL.

WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL.

THE SCHOOL AGREED THAT THEY WOULD BE GIVING US THEY WOULD GIVE US AN EASEMENT FOR THAT PROPERTY. SO THIS IS BASICALLY A COST TO GO OUT, HAVE IT SURVEYED, MEETS AND BOUNDS US TO REVIEW IT AND THEN PROVIDE IT TO THE CITY.

AND JUDITH AND CHRIS COULD WRITE AN AGREEMENT UP TO THE AISD THAT WOULD MAKE THAT PORTION OF THAT AREA A DRAINAGE EASEMENT TO WHERE LEGALLY THE CITY COULD SPEND MONEY TO DO AN IMPROVEMENT. IT WORKS OUT BEST FOR EVERYBODY.

THE CITY WILL CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN IT.

THE SCHOOL'S EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE IN AGREEMENT TO THAT.

AND IT ALSO PROVIDES BETTER, BETTER DRAINAGE FOR RIDGECREST.

WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE SOME INLETS UP THE STREET A LITTLE BIT TO HELP WITH THE DRAINAGE RIGHT THERE AT THE SCHOOL.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, JOHN.

MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE PERFORMANCE AND BOUNDS AND AN EXHIBIT TO IDENTIFY THE AREA OF THE REQUIRED DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

SECOND, THE MOTION. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BOOTH.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS? WE'RE BIDDING IT RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK.

AND WHEN'S THE BID DUE? YEAH, MAN, TWO WEEKS.

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I'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH JUDITH.

AND JUST IN CASE, IF WE DON'T GET THE THE EASEMENT DONE, WE GOT A RIGHT OF ENTRY FORM ALREADY TO WHERE WE DON'T SLOW ANYBODY DOWN.

WE WOULD JUST GO GET THEM TO EXECUTE A RIGHT OF ENTRY AT THE SCHOOL.

SO I'VE BUILT IN SUSPENDERS FOR US.

WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SLOWING DOWN TO GET THAT PROJECT MOVING.

IS THIS THE ONLY AREA WHERE WE'VE HAD THIS ISSUE THAT WE'VE NOTICED RIGHT NOW OUT OF ALL THE SURVEY? YES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? HEARING N=NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAME SIGN.

THAT MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, SIR.

NUMBER 12 DISCUSSION ON CURRENT STATE DEVELOPMENT AND PROJECTS.

MS. LINDSAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO PART OF PART OF WHAT WE'RE STARTING TO DO NOW IS PROVIDE UPDATES ON DEVELOPMENTS AS WE GET DETAILS ABOUT THEM.

SO I'M BRINGING TO YOUR WAY.

I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND FRONTLOAD YOU WITH I HAVE VERY LIMITED DETAIL BECAUSE THESE ARE BRAND NEW DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE RECENTLY HAD.

SO THE FIRST ONE INVOLVES A SUBDIVISION BY THE NAME OF ASHTON GRAY.

THIS IS A PRETTY SIZABLE ONE, MOSTLY IN THE CITY'S ETJ APPROXIMATELY 1000 ACRES.

VERY HIGH LEVEL STUFF.

WE'RE REALLY NOT SURE WHAT THE SPECIFICS ARE.

BUT IN PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS, THEY'RE PROPOSING ABOUT 475 ACRES OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING WITH COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USES ALONG THE FEEDER ROAD, AND THAT THAT EXPANDS FROM JUST WEST OF 288 TO AND THAT'S 288, NOT B OVER TO 521.

AND SO I BELIEVE THE CONCEPT IS TO ACTUALLY HAVE A ROAD THAT GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH, BUT THEY ARE PROPOSING A MUD MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT.

AND REALLY AT THIS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THAT'S ABOUT ALL THE INFORMATION I HAVE ON THAT. SECONDLY, WE'VE RECENTLY HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT 20 ACRES.

IT'S ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF 288-B AND [INAUDIBLE] ROAD, ALSO KNOWN AS CR 220.

AND THAT 20 ACRES WE INITIALLY BEGAN TALKING TO A CONSULTANT WHO'S WORKING FOR A PROPERTY OWNER WHO RECENTLY PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY.

BUT WE BEGAN THESE DISCUSSIONS LAST YEAR, LAST SPRING, I BELIEVE IN MAY.

AND WHILE WE'RE NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHAT THE OBJECTIVE IS FOR THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, WE DO BELIEVE IT'S PROBABLY RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE.

SO WE JUST DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF DETAIL ON IT.

BUT WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE FRONT LOAD ON THAT, I DO BELIEVE IT'S WITHIN AN IMPACT ZONE, BUT WE'VE GIVEN THEM ALL THE DETAIL AS IT RELATES TO UTILITIES, WHICH THEY WILL NEED.

THEY UNDERSTAND THEY ARE TO PAY FOR THE EXTENSION OF THOSE UTILITIES AND REQUEST ANNEXATION TO RECEIVE CITY SERVICES.

SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, BUT I CAN'T PROMISE I'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU MS. LINDSAY. MORE SPECIFICALLY, WHERE IS THIS ASHTON GRAY? IS IT SOUTH 523 OR NORTH 523? NORTH.

YES, IT IS NORTH.

IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE THAT CAME AND MADE THAT PITCH TO US.

THE 900 ACRE PIECE.

YES. DIFFERENT GROUP THIS TIME, THOUGH.

SO WE'RE SAYING THIS BECAUSE THEY KEEP CIRCLING AND COMING BACK SAYING WE WANT TO DO THIS. AND SO WE'RE JUST WE'RE NOT THERE YET AND WE'RE NOT TELLING THEM THEY'RE THERE YET, BUT WE'RE JUST GETTING GIVING YOU AN UPDATE.

FOR A MERE $65 MILLION, WE CAN BE THERE.

WE'LL GET OUR [INAUDIBLE] CERTIFY THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE THEIR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE.

MERE 65. I'LL EVEN APPROVE THE PLANS FOR 65.

THEY'RE OKAY WITH THE 80 FOOT LOTS, HUH? WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE WE'VE DEFINITELY LET THEM KNOW IS A CHANGE THAT'S IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH THEM IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WOULD INCLUDE ALL STAKEHOLDER PARTIES SUCH AS THE COUNTY, ANGLETON, ISD, THE CITY.

SO AGAIN, VERY PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS, BUT BECAUSE IT'S A MOVING TARGET AND WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, KNOW ABOUT HOUSING NEEDS AND HOUSING AVAILABILITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP OUR EYE ON IT AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT IT.

AND PROBABLY THE REASON THEY'RE REALLY NOT HERE YET IS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HAVING THOSE LOT SIZE DISCUSSIONS AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT PUSH BACK AND SO WE KEEP SAYING WE DON'T THINK WE'VE SEEN SOMETHING THAT PEACEFUL OR PLEASANT.

THE COUNCIL I WAS TALKING TO SOMEBODY FROM THE COUNTY AND THEY SAID THAT SINCE THAT'S BEEN PASSED, ALL THESE NEW DEVELOPERS ARE NOT HAPPY, BUT THEY'RE ALL FOLLOWING IT.

THEY'RE DOING IT. SO IT JUST SHOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL BUILD IT IF THEY HAVE TO

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IS IT SOUTHWEST OF 288 OR THAT LITTLE AREA OR ARE WE TALKING SOUTHWEST BEFORE YOU GET 288 BETWEEN 288 [INAUDIBLE].

SO WHY DO WE NAME ALL.

THE COUNTY ROAD 282 AND [INAUDIBLE] HIGHWAY? SO IT IS 288 B, IT'S JUST TO THE WEST OF IT AND IT'S 20 ACRES CARVED OUT OF NOW.

IT'S NOT UPDATED ON THE CAD RIGHT NOW ON THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT WEBSITE.

BUT WE HAVE SEEN THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND IT IS 20 ACRES AND IT'S JUST TO THE SOUTH OF CR 220 AND IT HAS CAPACITY, RIGHT.

WE'RE [INAUDIBLE]. YEAH.

WOW. YEAH.

YES. SO THE PROBLEM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE WASTEWATER IS REALLY THE NORTH SIDE, RIGHT? MORE. I EXPECT MOST OF THE GROWTH TO BE, THOUGH IN THE LONG TERM.

GROWTH SOMETIMES CAN HAPPEN WHERE THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

THAT'S TRUE. SO BUT THAT WILL TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE.

BUT WOULD ALSO HELP. TO GO OUT THERE.

HELP IMPROVE CERTAIN AREAS OF TOWN.

YEAH, THAT'S ONE THING I RESPECT THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH ARE DOING.

THEY'RE REALLY REVITALIZING WHAT THEY'VE GOT BECAUSE THEY'RE OUT OF PLACES.

SO THAT DEVELOPMENT HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE.

SO IT'S FORCED THEM TO MAKE THE INVESTMENTS IN OLDER AREAS OF TOWN AND REINVEST IN THOSE AREAS. JUST DON'T [INAUDIBLE].

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. LINDSAY? HEARING NONE.

KEEP US POSTED.

YES, MA'AM. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. WE DID PULL OUT OF NUMBER 13.

SO THAT GETS US TO THE PART OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AND DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PURCHASE OF SEVERAL PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

SECTION 551.72 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE WILL SHOW US ADJOURNING IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION 833.

YOU CAN SHOW COUNCIL ALL COUNSEL BACK AT THE TABLE AT 911 WE HAVE NOTHING COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, SO WE'RE TO THE POINT OF ADJOURNMENT.

WE ADJOURN AT 9:11.

I SAW THE EMAIL LAST WEEK, BUT I WASN'T.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.