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>> [MUSIC] 38 PM.

[1. Notice and Return]

WE HAVE A QUORUM AND THIS MEETING HAS BEEN DULY POSTED.

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO CALL FOR A MEETING OF THE DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

PLEASE STAND AND JOIN US FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND A SALUTE TO THE TEXAS FLAG.

>> THE FOLLOWING TRUSTEES ARE EITHER PHYSICALLY PRESENT OR PARTICIPATING SIMULTANEOUSLY VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE.

A QUORUM OF THE BOARD IS PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT THIS LOCATION.

DISTRICT 1 EDWIN FLORES, DISTRICT 2 DUSTIN MARSHALL, DISTRICT 3 DAN MICCICHE, DISTRICT 4 KARLA GARCIA, DISTRICT 5 MAXIE JOHNSON, DISTRICT 6 JOYCE FOREMAN IS ON THE WAY, DISTRICT 7 BEN MACKEY, DISTRICT 8 JOE CARREON, AND DISTRICT 9 JUSTIN HENRY, I BELIEVE HE'S ALSO ON THE WAY.

OUR SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS, MICHAEL HINOJOSA IS NOT HERE, BUT WE HAVE DWAYNE THOMPSON HERE IN THE MEANTIME.

[OVERLAPPING] [LAUGHTER] I'M BEN MACKEY BOARD PRESIDENT.

THIS MEETING WILL BE AVAILABLE SIMULTANEOUSLY IN SPANISH ON SOCIAL MEDIA THROUGH DALLAS ISD AND ESPANOL ON FACEBOOK AND THROUGH THE DISTRICT'S WEBSITE.

>> [FOREIGN].

>> MY APOLOGIES. WE ACTUALLY HAVE DR. HANLES ONLINE.

>> YES. I WILL BE OFF FOR A LITTLE WHILE BUT I'M TUNED IN FOR A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. IN ORDER FOR THE BOARD TO HOLD THIS MEETING IN AN EFFECTIVE MANNER, I WANT TO LET IT BE KNOWN THAT OUR MEETING WILL BE CONDUCTED IN AN ORDERLY FASHION AS THE PUBLIC ABIDE BY THE RULES OUTLINED IN BOARD POLICY BED LOCAL PERTAINING TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

ADDITIONALLY, IT IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE FOR A PERSON WITH INTENT TO PREVENT OR DISRUPT A LAWFUL MEETING, TO SUBSTANTIALLY OBSTRUCT OR INTERFERE WITH THE ORDINARY CONDUCT OF A MEETING BY PHYSICAL ACTION OR VERBAL UTTERANCE AND THEREBY CURTAIL THE EXERCISE OF OTHERS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

EVERYONE IS ASKED TO PLEASE WEAR YOUR MASK OVER YOUR NOSE AND MOUTH WHILE IN DISTRICT PROPERTY.

ANY PERSON WHO REFUSES TO WEAR A MASK BECOMES BOISTEROUS OR DISRUPTIVE WHILE ADDRESSING THE BOARD OR WHILE ATTENDING THIS BOARD MEETING SHALL BE ASKED TO LEAVE BY OUR SECURITY OFFICERS.

FAILURE TO LEAVE WHEN REQUESTED TO DO SO BY A SECURITY OFFICER MAY RESULT IN A PERSON BEING ESCORTED FROM THE MEETING AND SUBJECT TO ARREST.

THE BOARD WILL NOW RETIRE TO CLOSED SESSION.

[3. CLOSED SESSION - The Board will retire to closed session pursuant to Texas Government Code Section 551 concerning the following sections:]

THE PUBLIC AND STAFF ARE WELCOME TO STAY CONNECTED TO ZOOM WHILE THE BOARD LEAVES THIS MEETING AND ATTEND THE CLOSED SESSION.

THE BOARD WILL RETIRE TO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551 CONCERNING ANY AND ALL PURPOSES PERMITTED BY THE ACT, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING SECTION, 551071 FOR PRIVATE CONSULTATION WITH ITS ATTORNEY.

I'M APPENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION OR ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OR THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS, CLEAR CONFLICTS WITH THIS CHAPTER, INCLUDING LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS.

THE TIME IS NOW 5:41 PM AND WE ARE IN CLOSED SESSION.

THE TIME IS 6:16 PM AND WE ARE BACK IN OPEN SESSION.

THE BOARD TOOK NO ACTION IN CLOSED SESSION.

[A. Discussion of Proposed Maps]

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM 4, DISCUSSION OF THE PROPOSED MAP.

OUR REDISTRICTING TEAM TOOK ALL THE FEEDBACK FROM THE NUMBER OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD FROM OUR CALL BOARD MEETING EARLIER THIS MONTH AND HAS WORKED TO TRY TO AGGREGATE THAT FEEDBACK AND BRING FORTH ONE MAP HERE TO DISCUSS WITH US SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR REDISTRICTING TEAM.

WE'LL FOLLOW IT UP WITH QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR CONCERNS FROM TRUSTEES.

>> GOOD EVENING. BOARD PRESIDENT MACKEY, TRUSTEES, MR. THOMSON, DR. HINOJOSA, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO COME TO YOU TONIGHT TO FOCUS ON THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS.

I BELIEVE MY COLLEAGUE, MR. LOPEZ DOES HAVE SOMETHING TO START US OUT WITH BEFORE WE GET INTO THE POWERPOINT THAT WE ARE PRESENTING THIS AFTERNOON OR THIS EVENING.

>> CORRECT. I KNOW THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY TRUSTEE FOREMAN WHO'S GRABBING A QUICK SNACK BUT CALLED ME THIS MORNING AND WE TALKED AND SHE HAD ASKED ME TO DO WHAT I COULD TO CLARIFY ONE ISSUE ABOUT, I WASN'T AT THE MEETING, THE ISSUE ABOUT TRUSTEE GARCIA'S ADDRESS AND HOW HE GOT TREATED IN A PLAN THAT WAS PROPOSED.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND I FELT IT WAS HELPFUL TO GIVE SINCE I WAS THE ONE THAT WAS INVOLVED IN GETTING THAT LIST OF ADDRESSES ORIGINALLY 2-3 MONTHS BACK FROM SHANTEL, SHE'S RAISING HER HAND THERE.

I GOT THOSE ADDRESSES.

WE GAVE THEM TO THE DEMOGRAPHER ORIGINALLY WHEN WE WERE FIRST STARTING TO DRAW MAPS.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, THAT LIST OF THOSE NINE ADDRESSES

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WAS NOT CIRCULATED TO THE OTHER TRUSTEES OR ANY TRUSTEES.

IT WAS SHANTEL WHO GOT IT TO ME, I GOT IT OVER TO ROCKY AND THEN ROCKY WAS OFF TO THE RACES, ON DRAWING MAPS.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE I WAS THE ONE INVOLVED IN GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT TO EVERYBODY.

IN TERMS OF THE MAP THAT WAS SUBMITTED BASED ON A DIFFERENT ADDRESS OR WHATEVER, WHICH I WAS INVOLVED IN, BUT I DID WANT TO CLARIFY THAT PIECE OF IT AND I TOLD TRUSTEE FOREMAN THAT I WOULD DO THAT.

>> I WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.

AS BEING THE DEMOGRAPHER HERE, I DROP THE BALL AS WELL.

I THINK MAYBE LACK OF EXPERIENCE, I DID NOT.

I SHOULD HAVE REACHED OUT TO TRUSTEE FOREMAN OR THE DISTRICT SOONER TO ALERT HER PLANS THAT SHE SUBMITTED TO ME HAD INADVERTENTLY DRAWN TRUSTEE GARCIA OUT OF HER DISTRICT, AND I FAILED TO DO THAT AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

I WON'T LET THAT HAPPEN AGAIN.

I REALIZE NOW THAT THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT.

>> MAY I SPEAK, PRESIDENT.

>> I THINK THEY'VE ADDRESSED IT SO LET'S MOVE.

>> NO. THEY HAVEN'T FULLY ADDRESSED IT, BECAUSE THE ISSUE IS THAT THE ADDRESS FOR TRUSTEE GARCIA THAT WAS USED, SHE WAS DRAWN IN HER DISTRICT.

NO, YOU KEEP DOING THAT, BUT I'M UPSET ABOUT IT.

I'M UPSET BECAUSE I HAVE TO KEEP HEARING THESE SLIGHT REMARKS FROM TRUSTEE MARSHALL, TRUSTEE FLORES, AND TRUSTEE GARCIA AND I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THEM ANYMORE.

I WANT A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THAT NOBODY TRIED TO DRAW HER OUT OF HER DISTRICT.

[OVERLAPPING] SHE WAS DRAWN WITHIN THE DISTRICT, BASED ON THE ADDRESS THAT WE HAD, AND I WANT THAT UNDERSTOOD AND I WANT IT CLEAR.

>> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE FOREMAN.

PLEASE PROCEED WITH THE PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU BOARD MEMBERS. WILL PROCEED NOW WITH OUR PRESENTATION.

IMPORTANTLY, THE FOUNDATION OF THE BOARD'S PROCESS IN THIS TIMELINE THAT WE ARE IN FOR FINDING A NEW REDISTRICTING MAP IS FOUNDED IN THE CRITERIA THAT THE BOARD APPROVED BACK IN AUGUST WITH REGARDS TO THE PROCESS AND TIMELINE.

IT IS THIS CRITERIA THAT WE AS A LEGAL TEAM HAVE BEEN COGNIZANT OF THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS WHEN CONSIDERING BOTH TRUSTEE SUBMITTED MAPS AS WELL AS PLAN MAPS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY THE REDISTRICTING TEAM AT A PREVIOUS BOARD MEETING.

IMPORTANTLY, OUR DIRECTION OUR STEP PROCESS HAS BEEN DRIVEN BY THE TIMELINE AND PROCESS THAT THE BOARD APPROVED.

FOR THIS PARTICULAR MEETING IT WAS INCUMBENT UPON US TO BRING TO THE BOARD A MAP THAT CONSIDERED ALL OF THE TRUSTEES INPUT AS WELL AS COMMUNITY INPUT THAT WE RECEIVED.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE BOARD TO RECOGNIZE AND UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL OF A COMMUNITY INPUT, THE AMOUNT OF OUTLETS THAT WERE GIVEN TO OUR CITIZENS WITHIN DIST TO PROVIDE INPUT WITH RESPECT TO THIS MAP THAT WE BRING TO YOU TODAY.

WE HAD SURVEYS THAT WERE CONDUCTED ON SEPTEMBER SECOND AND NOVEMBER SECOND, TOTALING OVER A 100 INDIVIDUALS WHO RESPONDED TO THOSE SURVEYS WITH REGARDS TO WHAT WAS WORKING WITH THE CURRENT BOUNDARIES AND WHAT WAS NOT WORKING.

WE HAD TWO TELL A TOWN HALL MEETINGS ON OCTOBER 25TH AND NOVEMBER 15TH, WHICH WAS LAST NIGHT.

IN THOSE APPROXIMATELY 8,000 INDIVIDUALS PARTICIPATED AND LISTENED TO THOSE TELL A TOWN HALLS AND WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE AN ACCESS, PROVIDE QUESTIONS FOR MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM TO ANSWER.

WE ALSO HAD INDIVIDUAL TRUSTEE LEAD COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WHICH WE ASSISTED IN THOSE MEETINGS, WE TOOK PART IN PRESENTING INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROCESS, BUT ALSO ASSISTED TRUSTEES IN ORDER TO GET INFORMATION FROM THEIR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO HELP US WITH THIS PROCESS IN TERMS OF TWEAKING AND FINDING A PROPOSED MAP.

THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY 21 MEETINGS THAT WERE COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER.

ADDITIONALLY, IN TO THE BOARD MEETINGS THAT WERE HELD ON THIS PROCESS, THE FORMAL CALLED BOARD MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD, WE HAD INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH TRUSTEES AT THEIR REQUEST, APPROXIMATELY 11 OF THOSE MEETINGS IN ORDER TO DISCUSS STARTER MAPS, FURTHER TWEAKS AND PREFERENCES THAT THEY WERE HEARING FROM THEIR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

ALL THAT TO SAY WE TOOK THIS INFORMATION TO SYNTHESIZE IT, BUT ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER MATH ITERATION WE BROUGHT TO YOU TONIGHT WOULD FALL WITHIN THE CRITERIA THAT THE BOARD HAD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

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WITH THAT SAID, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND AFTER CONSIDERING THAT A POINT OF REFERENCE, OUR CURRENT MAP, THE DEMOGRAPHIC ANALYSIS FOR 2010, FOLLOWING THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS AT THAT TIME WE FEEL IS IMPORTANT AND HAS BEEN IMPORTANT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS AS A COMPARATOR.

SIMILARLY, WE HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD THE INFORMATION OF WHAT THE CURRENT POPULATION DEMOGRAPHICALLY LOOKS LIKE AS WE SIT IN OUR CURRENT BOUNDARY LINES FOLLOWING THE 2020 CENSUS.

AGAIN, A COMPARATOR IN HELPING THE BOARD DRIVE THIS PLAN FORWARD.

WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS PLANNED W. PLAN W BEGAN THE STARTER MAP ESSENTIALLY FOR PLAN W WAS PLAN C, WHICH WAS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING.

THAT IS THE MEETING AT WHICH WE, AS A TEAM, LISTENED TO THE BOARD AND HEARD THAT THERE WAS SUPPORT FOR CERTAIN PORTIONS OF PLAN.

SEE, THAT SEEMED TO BE A CONSENSUS WITH MANY OF THE TRUSTEES.

WITH THAT, WE TOOK THAT PLAN AND MAKE FURTHER TWEAKS TO THAT PLAN BASED ON THE INPUT THAT I JUST EXPLAINED TO THE BOARD AND PROVIDED.

BEFORE YOU NOW IS THE MAP OF ALL SMDS UNDER PLAN W, THE BLUE LINES ARE THE CURRENT BOUNDARY LINES FOR OUR CURRENT SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICTS.

THE DIFFERENT COLORS WILL SHOW WHERE A NEW REVISION IS BEING MADE IN TERMS OF BLEEDING OVER ONE OF THOSE BLUE LINES.

AGAIN, THE CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THIS PROCESS WE FEEL IS BALANCED IN THIS PLAN.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE IDEA OF EQUALLY THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS OF EQUAL POPULATION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

MEANING, WE ARE TRYING TO ADHERE TO THE PRINCIPLE OF ONE MAN OR ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE OF DRIVING THAT DEVIATION BELOW THE 10 PERCENT PERCENTILE, AS WELL AS KEEPING THE DISTRICT AS CONTIGUOUS AND COMPACT AS FEASIBLY POSSIBLE.

WE FEEL THERE ARE STATUTORY CRITERIA HAVE BEEN MET WITH THIS PLAN.

ADDITIONALLY, WE ALSO HAVE LOOKED AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THOSE OTHER NON-STATUTORY CONSIDERATIONS.

PART OF THE CRITERIA WAS TO PRESERVE INCUMBENT TRUSTEE AND CONSTITUENT RELATIONSHIPS IN THAT WE DO NOT HAVE A PLAN HERE THAT DRAWS ANY TRUSTEE OUT OF THEIR DISTRICT.

WE ALSO ADHERE TO THE MAINTENANCE AND PRESERVATION OF COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST, AS WELL AS NEIGHBORHOODS AS COMMUNICATED BY OUR TRUSTEES AND THEIR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

WE ALSO CONSIDERED MAINTAINING AS POSSIBLE OR PRESERVING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THE CURRENT SMD BOUNDARIES.

BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE AS REDISTRICTING TEAM, WE KNOW THAT SIGNIFICANT CHANGES CAN POSE DIFFICULTIES FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO ROCKY GARDENER ONE BEFORE I GO THERE, I DO WANT TO ADDRESS ONE OF OUR CRITICAL CRITERIA, WHICH IS OUR FEDERAL FACTORS WITH REGARD TO POTENTIAL RETROGRESSION.

IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS PLAN ON ITS FACE IS A WORKABLE PLAN FOR PURPOSES OF CONCERNS, ALLAYING CONCERNS ABOUT ANY VOTER DILUTION AS BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED IN THE DEMOGRAPHIC DATA WITH THIS PLAN.

THAT BEING SAID AS A TEAM WE HAVE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE DISTRICT SEEK OUT AND WE HAVE MADE TOUCH.

I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH AN EXPERT, THAT CAN REVIEW THIS PLAN TO VET OUT THE RETROGRESSION, IF ANY, WITH REGARD TO THE PROPOSED DATA THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU AND HOW THEY OPERATE AND HOW IT WOULD OPERATE IN OUR CURRENT OPPORTUNITY DISTRICTS FOR OUR MINORITY POPULATIONS.

WITH THAT SAID, I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO ROCKY GARDENER OR DEMOGRAPHER JUST TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE CHANGES WITH EACH DISTRICT.

>> JUST TO REITERATE THAT THE EVOLUTION OF THE PLAN, BUT IF THE PLAN W DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANCE EXCEPT FOR THAT I WAS RUN OUT OF LETTERS AND I WAS AFRAID I'D OVERWRITE ONE, SO I SKIPPED A BUNCH AND JUST WENT TOWARDS THE END.

PLAN W WAS A C THAT WAS A J THAT IT BECAME A K, THAT THEN IT'S NOW A W. I'M JUST GOING TO WALK THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEM IF THAT'S OKAY.

AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER, I THINK WE SPENT TIME WITH EVERY TRUSTEE DURING THE LAST FEW MONTHS GETTING FEEDBACK.

I'M GOING TO TALK MORE TO THE CHANGES BETWEEN C AND W IF YOU WILL SINCE MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN C. FOR DISTRICT 1, IT DIDN'T CHANGE VERY MUCH,

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WE JUST CLEANED UP A LITTLE BIT OF SOME OF THE LINES AT THE BOTTOM, TRIED TO SMOOTH OUT.

I THINK THAT'S ALONG THE ROADS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FOLLOW PRECINCTS.

I THINK WE DID MOVE SOME OF THE HILLCREST FEEDER THAT'S UP THERE FROM ONE INTO TWO AND THEN WE MOVED SOME AREAS INTO DISTRICT 8 THAT WERE HIGH HISPANIC KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE DID KEEP A CLEAN PRECINCT THERE IN THE AREA WHERE WE DID THAT.

I'M GOING TO MOVE PRETTY QUICK. DISTRICT 2, AGAIN, YOU SAW THE CHANGES THERE, IN DISTRICT 1.

IN DISTRICT 2, WE DID MAKE SOME CHANGES THERE ALONG WHITE ROCK LAKE WHERE WE MOVED SOME POPULATIONS IN.

IN THE FIRST MAP OF PLAN C THE VILLAGE, IF YOU KNOW WHERE THE VILLAGE IS, THAT ABOUT 9,000 PERSONS THERE WERE MOVED FROM TWO INTO THREE.

THIS MAP, WE MADE SOME CHANGES AFTER VISITING WITH SOME TRUSTEES AND MOVED SOME AREAS AROUND WHITE ROCK INTO DISTRICT 3, PULLING THOSE FROM TWO AND PUTTING THE VILLAGE BACK INTO DISTRICT 2.

WE FELT WE DIDN'T BREAK A FEEDER PATTERN, BUT WE DIDN'T MOVE ANY SCHOOLS IN THAT PLAN.

FOR DISTRICT 3, WE GO TO DISTRICT 3 NOW, I GUESS THAT'S REALLY THE SAME THING.

THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE WITH DISTRICT 3 ASIDE FROM BETWEEN TWO AND THREE IS, AT THE SOUTH PART THERE WHERE IT HITS DISTRICT 9, WE SMOOTHED THAT OUT JUST TO GET THE VOTER PRECINCT COMPLETELY WITHOUT A CHANGE IN ANY NUMBERS.

I DID THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

I ROLLED MY WAY AROUND THE DISTRICT AND DID A LOT OF CLEAN-UP BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING FAST, YOU'RE GRABBING SOME SMALL CENSUS BLOCKS, SLIVERS CAN SLIP THROUGH.

IN DISTRICT 4, THERE'S ACTUALLY NOT A CHANGE, IN DISTRICT 4.

THERE'S NOT A CHANGE AT ALL IN DISTRICT 4 FROM START TO FINISH WITH THE EXCEPTION, NOP, ACTUALLY, THERE WAS NO CHANGES IN DISTRICT 4.

DISTRICT 5, I THINK WE CAN ALL SEE THAT THERE WERE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES KEEPING IN MIND, WE HAD TO MOVE CLOSE TO 20,000 PERSONS IN THAT RANGE OUT OF DISTRICT 5.

WE DID MAKE A FEW EDITS BETWEEN FIVE AND NINE TO [INAUDIBLE] BOOKER T.

WASHINGTON PERFORMING ARTS SCHOOL HAD BEEN MOVED IN PLAN C, AND WE MOVED THAT BACK TO TRUST D9 AND WE MADE A DIFFERENT PATHWAY FOR FIVE TO WORK ITS WAY THROUGH DOWNTOWN TO GET OVER AND CAPTURE THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY AROUND THE PINKSTONE AREA THERE.

THAT'S WHERE WE DID DISTRICT 5.

WE MOVED A LITTLE BIT OF DISTRICT 5 INTO DISTRICT 6 IN THE VERY SOUTHERN PORTION.

IN DISTRICT 6, THE ONLY OTHER MOVE, IN DISTRICT 6 OTHER THAN THE PART THERE, OF FIVE IS IN THE TOP.

WE MOVED THE LITTLE TRIANGLE YOU SEE IN THE TOP OF DISTRICT 6 INTO DISTRICT 7, JUST SMOOTHED OUT THAT LINE THERE AND IF WE GO ON TO DISTRICT 7, WE TALKED SOME ABOUT THIS ALREADY.

DISTRICT 7, GAVE UP SOME POPULATION THAT WAS PRETTY HIGH HISPANIC TO DISTRICT 8 AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THEN WE MOVED IT UP INTO THE DESIGN DISTRICT AND PICKED UP SOME POPULATION THERE TO KEEP THEIR NUMBERS.

KEEP IN MIND THAT DISTRICTS 6, 7, AND 8 WERE THE LIGHTEST DISTRICTS.

THAT WAS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE THERE BECAUSE IF WE HAD TO MOVE, WE HAD TO GET POPULATION AND REALLY PRETTY CLOSE TO A LITTLE BIT OF POPULATION IN ALL THREE OF THOSE.

THEY REALLY COULDN'T BORROW A WHOLE LOT FROM EACH OTHER WITHOUT HAVING TO GO INTO OTHER DISTRICTS, WHICH IS ONE REASON WHY WE MANEUVERED AROUND IN SOME CASES.

YOU CAN SEE THERE IN DISTRICT 8 THAT WE HAD A FEW CHANGES THERE.

THE BOTTOM TOE AT DISTRICT 8, WE MOVED SOME DOWN INTO TRUST E9, BUT WE KEPT THE MAJORITY OF THAT.

THERE'S VERY HIGH HISPANIC OVER THERE.

WE ALSO BROUGHT IT AROUND UNDER DISTRICTS 5 AND 7, A LITTLE BIT TO PICK UP SOME HISPANIC AND THAT WAS THE PREDOMINANT CHANGES THERE IN DISTRICT 8.

THEN FINALLY, IN DISTRICT 9, THEY LOST SOME POPULATION NEAR DOWNTOWN.

BUT AGAIN, WE KEPT BOOKER T, WASHINGTON PERFORMING ARTS AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHER SMALL AREAS THAT WE MOVED, AGAIN THE PART THAT SHARED THERE WITH TRUST E3 IN THE TOP, WE ADDED THAT, IT IS A PRETTY HIGH AFRICAN-AMERICAN POPULATION TO HOLD ON TO THAT POPULATION.

I REALIZED THAT WAS PRETTY QUICK, BUT THAT WAS THE COMBINATION.

W WAS A VERY THOUGHT OUT, LOTS OF MEETINGS, WELL THOUGHT OUT AND AGAIN, THEN I JUST WENT IN BY MYSELF AND DID SOME CLEANUP WHERE I JUST WAS TRYING TO HAVE AS MANY VOTING PRECINCTS.

AT THIS POINT, THERE'S ABOUT 20 VOTING PRECINCTS THAT ARE SPLIT.

WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT AGAIN TODAY JUST TO GET A COUNT, THERE MIGHT BE FOUR OR FIVE OF THOSE THAT I COULD PROBABLY EVEN

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CLOSE OUT THAT MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE A POPULATION, THEY'RE JUST SOME SLIVERS.

WE PROBABLY HAVE 15 AND THAT IS ACTUALLY PROBABLY FEWER OR PRETTY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS SPLIT BACK IN 2010 BECAUSE 2010 WAS NOT PERFECTLY SPLIT BY VOTING PRECINCTS.

I RAN THROUGH THAT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. WE'LL ALL BE UP FOR TRUSTEE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

WE'LL BEGIN WITH TRUSTEE MARSHALL.

IF YOU ARE ONLINE, FEEL FREE TO RAISE YOUR HAND OR COME OFF MUTE AND JUST KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE A QUESTION, I'LL CHECK IN ON YOU ALL PERIODICALLY. TRUSTEE MARSHALL.

>> LET ME BEGIN BY SAYING THAT I APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS TOOK THE SUGGESTION I MADE IN THE LAST MEETING OF TAKING MAP C AND USING THAT ON THE BASIS FOR FURTHER CONVERSATIONS IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE DISTRICT AT THAT MEETING.

AS YOU KNOW, YOU GOT FEEDBACK FROM ALL THE NORTHERN TRUSTEES THAT WERE PHYSICALLY IN ATTENDANCE THERE, THE NORTHERN PART OF MAP C WAS GOOD AS IT WAS, BUT THAT YOU NEEDED TO GO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS IN SOUTH HOUSE AND WEST HOUSE, WHICH IT APPEARS TO ME THAT YOU HAVE NOW DONE.

BUT I'M PERPLEXED BY THE FACT THAT THE WHOLE BASIS FOR THAT PLAN WAS THAT THE NORTHERN PART OF MAP C WAS GOOD THE WAY THAT IT WAS AND THIS MAP IS NOT THE NORTHERN PART OF MAP C THE WAY THAT IT WAS.

IN FACT, THIS IS QUITE A DEVIATION FROM THE PREVIOUS VERSION OF DISTRICT 2 THAT YOU HAD IN THE LAST MAP.

AS I STATED LAST TIME, AS ALL MY COLLEAGUES IN THE ROOM ALSO STATED LAST TIME, LIKED THE LAST VERSION OF THE NORTHERN PART OF THE DISTRICT WHICH WAS REFLECTED IN MAP C. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD, "HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH TRUSTEES," THAT HAD PROMPTED THIS CHANGE AND I'D SUBMIT TO YOU THAT YOU HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ONE TRUSTEE THAT SUBMITTED THESE CHANGES.

I'M PRETTY UNHAPPY ABOUT THESE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED BECAUSE THE WEST SIDE OF WHITE ROCK LAKE, WHICH IS ALL PART OF THE WOODROW FEEDER PATTERN, HAS NOW BEEN ZONED OUT OF DISTRICT 2.

YOU DID LEAVE WOODROW IN DISTRICT 2, BUT YOU TOOK HALF OF THE ATTENDANCE BOUNDARY OF WOODROW OUT OF DISTRICT 2, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT PARENTS UP AND DOWN THE WEST SIDE OF THE LAKE, WHO CURRENTLY HAVE THEIR TRUSTEE ALSO REPRESENT WOODROW ARE GOING TO BE FURIOUS IF THEY WAKE UP ONE MORNING AND THE TRUSTEE THAT REPRESENTS THEIR HOUSE NO LONGER REPRESENTS THEIR SCHOOL.

THAT IS GOING TO BE AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER FROM THOSE PARENTS' PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU THAT THOSE ARE AMONGST THE MOST VOCAL AND ENGAGED PARENTS ANYWHERE IN THE ISD AND I RECEIVE PROBABLY A THOUSAND EMAILS A WEEK FROM THAT COMMUNITY, WHICH I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU IS MORE THAN EVERYBODY ELSE ON THIS BOARD ADDED TOGETHER AND THOSE CITIZENS EXPECT THAT THEIR TRUSTEE THAT REPRESENTS THEIR COMMUNITY, ALSO REPRESENTS THEIR SCHOOL.

I'VE BEEN VERY VOCAL THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS THAT ONE OF MY PRIMARY OBJECTIVES OF REDISTRICTING WAS TO TRY TO GET AS MUCH OF A FEEDER PATTERN TOGETHER AS POSSIBLE AND I'M HAPPY THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE THAT IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE DISTRICT WHERE YOU'VE ADDED KRAMER AND PERSHING, WHICH ARE BOTH PART OF THE HILLCREST FEEDER PATTERN TO DISTRICT 2.

BUT I WOULD NEVER HAVE AGREED TO DO THAT IN THE NORTHERN PART OF DISTRICT 2 AT THE EXPENSE OF THE EASTERN PART OF DISTRICT 2 BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOW SOLVED A PROBLEM IN THE HILLCREST FEEDER PATTERN BY CREATING A GIANT PROBLEM IN THE WOODROW FEEDER PATTERN, WHICH FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS A NONSTARTER.

I WOULD IMPLORE YOU TO GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS VERSION OF THE NORTHERN PART OF THIS MAP WHICH WAS IN MAP C AND USE THE SOUTHERN PART OF THIS MAP, WHICH APPEARS TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF MY COLLEAGUES IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR AND I'M NOT SURE WHY WE WOULDN'T PURSUE THAT.

I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT THOSE TWO PRECINCTS THAT YOU MOVED TO WHICH ARE 2069 AND 2072 ARE THE LARGEST VOTING PRECINCTS ANYWHERE IN DALLAS.

MOVING THEM FROM MY DISTRICT TOTALLY CHANGES ELECTORAL DYNAMICS.

I MEAN ITS THE MOST DRASTIC CHANGE ANYWHERE ON THIS MAP.

BOTH FROM DAMAGING EXISTING VOTER RELATIONSHIPS, EXISTING COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS, PARENT RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR TRUSTEE, AND TO BE CLEAR, I DON'T HAVE SKIN IN THIS GAME.

I DO NOT INTEND TO SEEK RE-ELECTION, SO I AM NOT SAYING THIS FROM A CANDIDATE PERSPECTIVE,

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I AM SAYING THIS FROM A PARENT AND COMMUNITY MEMBER PERSPECTIVE.

THEY WILL EXPECT THAT THEIR TRUSTEE OF THEIR HOUSE REPRESENTS IS THE SAME TRUSTEE THAT REPRESENTS THEIR SCHOOL.

IF THAT IS NOT THE CASE, THINGS WILL GO AWRY AND THEY WILL DRAW A FEEDER PATTERN VERY QUICKLY.

I RECOGNIZE THAT YOU NEED TO GET POPULATION OUT OF DISTRICT 2 SINCE DISTRICT 2 IS THE LARGEST, BUT THERE IS MUCH MORE DENSELY POPULATED AREA, NORTH AND WEST OF THE AREA THAT YOU'VE MOVED, WHICH IS AROUND THE VILLAGE, WHICH MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE FROM A FEEDER PATTERN PERSPECTIVE TO MOVE BECAUSE THAT'S THE FEEDER PATTERN AROUND DANDY ROGERS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CURRENTLY FEEDS INTO HILLCREST, WHICH IS FURTHER AWAY FROM IT, GEOGRAPHICALLY THAN THREE OTHER HIGH-SCHOOLS THAT IT COULD BE ZONED TO.

IT WOULD MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE FOR THAT SCHOOL TO BE CONSIDERED PART OF THE BA FEEDER PATTERN BECAUSE IT IS VERY CLOSE TO BA AND A PART OF DISTRICT 3, AND IN WHICH CASE YOU WOULD BE SOLVING ALL THREE PROBLEMS AT ONCE.

YOU WOULD BE FIXING THE ATTENDANCE BOUNDARY OF THE HILLCREST FEEDER PATTERN, KEEPING THE ATTENDANCE BOUNDARY OF THE WOODROW FEEDER PATTERN, AND ADDRESSING A POPULATION ISSUE AT BA BY MOVING A SCHOOL THAT IS PHYSICALLY VERY CLOSE TO BA AND TO THAT FEEDER PATTERN AND THEN INTO DISTRICT 3.

TO ME, THERE'S EVERY REASON IN THE WORLD WHY THAT'S A BETTER SOLUTION, ALTHOUGH I DON'T LIKE LOSING ANY PART OF DISTRICT 2.

IF I HAVE TO CHOOSE A PART THAT WOULD LEAVE, IT WOULD NOT BE THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE WOODROW FEEDER PATTERN AND THE LAKE AREA WEST OF THE LAKE.

I DEFINITELY WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS MAP, UNLESS IT IS CHANGED TO GO BACK TO THE WAY THAT IT FORMERLY WAS ON MAP C. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU TRUSTEE MARSHALL. TRUSTEE MICCICHE.

>> WELL, THANK YOU. JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS IN RESPONSE TO TRUSTEE MARSHALL.

FIRST, LET ME POINT OUT THAT NOT ALL OF THE TRUSTEES IN THE NORTH WERE IN AGREEMENT THAT MAP C WAS THE RIGHT MAP TO GO WITH.

SECOND, I LIVE IN THE WHITE ROCK NEIGHBORHOOD.

I LIVE AND I HAVE LIVED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE LAKE.

I FIND IT IRONIC THAT THERE'S A CONCERN IF I REPRESENT PART OF THE WOODROW FEEDER PATTERN, THAT ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE.

I GET LOTS OF CALLS FROM PEOPLE IN THE WOODROW FEEDER PATTERN.

I HAVE LOTS OF STUDENTS WHO LIVE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE LAKE WHO GO TO WOODROW.

I LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S ONE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS BEEN ARTIFICIALLY DIVIDED FOR A LONG TIME, PRESUMABLY BECAUSE THERE WERE TWO TRUSTEES WHO LIVED IN THE WHITE ROCK AREA AT ONE POINT.

BUT I ALSO POINT OUT THAT I BELIEVE TRUSTEE HENRY ALSO LIVES IN THE WOODROW FEEDER PATTERN, AND IT SEEMS DISINGENUOUS TO ME TO SAY THAT PEOPLE IN THE WOODROW FEEDER PATTERN WOULD BE UPSET THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ANOTHER TRUSTEE BEING ABLE TO ADVOCATE FOR THEM IN THE DISTRICT.

BUT IT'S ONE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT'S THE POINT.

IT'S ONE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I LIVE INCHES AWAY FROM THAT SIDE OF THE LAKE.

I RUN ON THAT SIDE LAKE ALMOST EVERY, MORNING.

THIS MAP DOES NOT CHANGE THE LOCATION OF ANY SCHOOLS.

THE SCHOOL STAY IN THE SAME TRUSTEE DISTRICT.

I ALSO WOULD NOTE THAT I THINK TRUSTEE MARSHALL WAS MISTAKEN IN THINKING THAT THE DANDY ROGERS SCHOOL WAS AS CLOSE TO THE BRYAN ADAMS FEEDER PATTERN.

IT'S NOT CLOSE AT ALL TO IT.

IT ISN'T THE HILLCREST FEEDER PATTERN AND IT IS IN THE HILLCREST FEEDER PATTERN IS WAY FAR AWAY FROM WHERE I LIVE AND REALLY CLOSE TO WHERE TRUSTEE MARSHALL LIVES.

THE MAP W AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN NOW, ACTUALLY ACHIEVES OUR GOAL OF COMPACT DISTRICTS AND KEEPING NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER, IN THIS CASE, PUTTING NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER.

I WAS ALSO A LITTLE BIT TROUBLED BY TRUSTEE MARSHALL'S MENTIONING THAT WE WOULD THINK THAT HE'S IN

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FAVOR OF REZONING THE DANDY ROGERS SCHOOL OUT OF THE FEEDER PATTERN THAT'S CURRENTLY IN.

WE HAVE AT EVERY ONE OF THESE MEETINGS SAID THAT WE WERE NOT CHANGING THE ATTENDANCE ZONES OF SCHOOLS.

THAT ACTUALLY PUTS INTO QUESTION WHETHER WE HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING TO OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE FEEDER PATTERN AND AN ATTENDANT ZONE SCHOOLS, THIS IS PART OF MY INTENT.

I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS A WAY THAT WE KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD TOGETHER AND IT IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I LIVE IN.

THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH FACES SIMILAR ISSUES, HAS ALWAYS DRAWN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT 9 AROUND THE LAKE BECAUSE IT'S ONE COMMUNITY.

I DON'T KNOW WHY TRUSTEE MARSHALL IS SO ADAMANT IN LOSING A PART OF A DISTRICT THAT IS CLOSE TO WHERE HE LIVES.

THEN NOT WANTING TO, HE'S GOT A SACRIFICE APART, THE PART OF THE DISTRICT THAT I LIVE CLOSE TO, THAT IS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE VOTING PATTERNS ARE IN THOSE TWO AREAS.

I THINK WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT KEEPING NEIGHBORS TOGETHER, KEEPING THE DISTRICTS COMPACT.

IT TAKES ME A MINUTE TO GET TO THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE LAKE.

IT'LL TAKE ME 30 MINUTES TO GET ME TO THE OTHER AREA THAT IS CLOSER TO HIGHLAND PARK THAN IT IS TO WHITE ROCK LAKE.

I'M REALLY PUZZLED BY WHY THIS IS SO CONTROVERSIAL? I SUPPORT NOW THAT I SEE THAT THE OTHER TRUSTEES WHO HAD CONCERNS ABOUT MAPS ONE, TWO, AND THREE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

I'M SUPPORT OF MAP W AS IT IS WRITTEN. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE MITCH-KAY. TRUSTEE CARRY ON.

>> YES. I'LL BE BRIEF.

JUST BEFORE I SPEAK TO MAP W, I JUST WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU ROCKY, OUR DEMOGRAPHER AND OUR ATTORNEYS WHO HAD BEEN WORKING ON THIS HERE FOR LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS FOR MAKING TIME AND BEING AVAILABLE AND REALLY PUTTING SOME THOUGHT INTO THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.

IT'S TRULY APPRECIATED. I DON'T KNOW, I MAY NOT FEEL THAT WAY IN SOME OF OUR MEETINGS, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I SAY THAT HERE PUBLICLY TO YOU ALL.

THAT SAID. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL, I ON RETROGRESSION IN ENSURING THAT WE ARE PROTECTING THE VOTING RIGHTS OF ALL POPULATIONS.

MY ONLY ISSUE, AND YOU ALL HAVE HEARD ME SAY IT BEFORE WITH PLAN W, IS THAT I THINK IN OUR WAY OF PROTECTING VOTING RIGHTS AND HOW THE STANDARDS THAT WE'VE APPLIED FOR OURSELVES.

I THINK THERE'S A MORE COMPACT CONTIGUOUS WAY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

TRUSTING IN THIS CASE TALKING ABOUT HAVING TO DRIVE TO OTHER PARTS OF TOWN.

DISTRICT EIGHT IS THE EPITOME OF THAT.

IT WASN'T WHEN IT WAS DRAWN IN 2010 INTO REMAINS THAT UNDER THIS MAP.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING NECESSARILY THAT THE EASTERN LAKE HAS TO DISAPPEAR FOR DISTRICT 8, BUT I THINK WE CAN DO MORE IN TERMS OF COMPACTNESS TO IMPROVE THAT DISTRICT AND MAINTAIN THE MINORITY VOTING RIGHTS OF THAT DISTRICT.

I THINK IT WOULD DO WONDERS FOR BOTH THE COMMUNITIES IN BOTH EAST DALLAS AND IN WEST DALLAS AND IN UPTOWN FOR THAT MATTER.

IF YOU LOOK AT DISTRICT 8, IT'S INVOLVEMENT BOTH IN WEST, EAST AND AS IT WORKS ITS WAY TOWARDS EAST DALLAS IN UPTOWN REALLY SPLITS THOSE COMMUNITIES UP IN A REALLY AWKWARD WAY.

I THINK THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO DO IT.

I CHALLENGE THIS TEAM TO LOOK AT IT SERIOUSLY AS WE MOVE THAT WAY,

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BUT THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT.

>> LIKE YOU TRUSTEE CARRY ON. TRUSTEE FOREMAN.

>> JUST STARTING OUT TO THE TEAM.

YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD A LOT.

YOU'VE RESPONDED TO A LOT, AND THERE YOU'VE BROUGHT FORTH SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK IS WORKABLE TO START WITH.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

WHEN I STARTED TALKING ABOUT REDISTRICTING, ONE OF THE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT WAS 333, OPPORTUNITY DISTRICTS.

CAN YOU POINT OUT THE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITY DISTRICTS IN PLAN W FOR ME?

>> TRUSTEE FOREMAN BASED ON THE HISTORY OF THE ELECTIONS TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, AND CERTAINLY BASED ON THE DEMOGRAPHICS BEGINNING WITH 2010, I THINK THAT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY DISTRICTS, BOTH IN SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICTS: 8, 6, 5, 9, AND, 4 AT IT, BASED ON THE DEMOGRAPHICS.

GRANTED, THOSE DEMOGRAPHICS HAVE CHANGED SINCE 2010.

BUT BASED ON THAT HISTORY, THOSE HAVE BEEN WHAT WE SEE AS TRADITIONAL MINORITY OPPORTUNITY DISTRICTS, AT LEAST IN DALLAS ISD.

THERE ARE SOME UNIQUENESS'S, AS WE HAVE SAID BEFORE, WITH THE DISTRICTS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICTS ONE AND SEVEN.

HOWEVER, LOOKING AT THOSE THAT ARE MINORITY, MAJORITY, HISTORICALLY AND HOW THEY ALIGN WITH THE CANDIDATE WHO HAS BEEN ELECTED, IT WOULD BE THOSE PARTICULAR DISTRICTS.

>> THE 8, 6, 5, 9 AND, 4 AND POSSIBLY SEVEN.

BUT BASED ON THE HISTORY, BECAUSE WE KNOW THE LAST HISPANIC THAT SERVED IN SEVEN WAS GUAM GARZA.

PROBABLY ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO.

>> I BELIEVE IT'S 11 OR 12 YEARS.

>> YEAH, PROBABLY ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO.

I WOULD SAY SEVEN.

JUST PUTTING SEVEN IN THERE.

EIGHT WOULD BE HISPANIC OPPORTUNITY.

>> BASED ON THE HISTORY.

>> BASED ON THE HISTORY.

SIX WOULD BE AFRICAN-AMERICAN BASED ON THE HISTORY.

>> DEMOGRAPHICS.

>> FIVE WOULD BE AFRICAN-AMERICAN BASED ON THE HISTORY.

NINE WOULD BE AFRICAN-AMERICAN BASED ON THE HISTORY.

FOUR WOULD BE HISPANIC BASED ON HISTORY.

SEVEN COULD BE BASED ON THE DEMOGRAPHICS.

>> YES.

>> RIGHT? GREAT. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BECAUSE-

>> THE MINORITY OPPORTUNITY DISTRICT ON PAPER I THINK IT'S WHAT WE'VE TALK ABOUT.

>> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, OKAY.

IT COULD BE BASED ON SET.

IF I LOOK AT THAT, THAT GETS US RIGHT BACK TO THE 33 AND 3 THAT I SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER.

THAT IS WHAT IS EXCITING FOR ME.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE TWEAKS THAT NEED TO TAKE PLACE, BUT AS LONG AS WE STAY WITHIN THE LINES OF THE 33 AND 3, I'M SATISFIED.

JUST A QUESTION ABOUT A CHANGE IN DISTRICT 6, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT [INAUDIBLE] BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL FROM THIS LITTLE MAP.

THAT LITTLE HOOK RIGHT DOWN AT THE END THAT GOES INTO FIVE, WHAT IS THAT AREA?

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> OKAY. GOT IT. YEAH. I KNOW WHAT-

>> SORRY.

>> OKAY. I WAS JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I WAS ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

>> I'LL REPEAT THAT FOR THE MIC JUST SO WE ARE GOING TO LOSE THAT.

BUT YEAH, IT'S THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF 30 AND 342 AND ONE OF THE STREETS IS CHERRY VALLEY BOULEVARD.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE FOREMAN.

ANY OTHER TRUSTEES FOR FIRST ROUND? TRUSTEE FLORES.

>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I KNOW THAT FOURTH DIMENSIONAL RUBIK'S CUBE IS NOT EASY TO [LAUGHTER] ACCOMPLISH, SO I'M GLAD.

THE LAST MAP I SAW WAS I THINK PLAN K OR SOMETHING ROCKY [LAUGHTER]

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SHOULD'VE BEEN SO WHEN I SAW WE WERE UP TO W. IT'S OBVIOUSLY THEY'VE BEEN QUITE A FEW ITERATIONS.

I'M GRATEFUL YOU LISTENED TO THE INPUT FROM THE TRUSTEES AND I KNOW CERTAINLY AS WE DISCUSSED, ONE OF THE THINGS WAS TRY TO KEEP PRECINCTS TOGETHER AND SOME OF THOSE LINES A LITTLE MORE STRAIGHT.

CONSTITUENTS THINK OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE NORTH PART OF TOWN BY THOSE ONE SQUARE MILE AREAS.

THE MORE WE CAN KEEP THEM TOGETHER, THE BETTER.

I'M JUST VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

I THINK PLAN W IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK FROM TO ITERATE TO WHEREVER THE FINAL MAPS ARE.

I MEAN, I'M SATISFIED WITH THE CHANGES TO DISTRICT 1.

IT KEEPS MORE OF THE WHITE FEEDER PATTERN TOGETHER, SO I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT AND MOVES SOME OF THE HILLCREST FEEDER TO TRUSTEE MARSHALL, WHICH MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE AND HILLCREST IS IN HIS DISTRICT. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE FLORES.

I'LL GO IF WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN THE FIRST ROUND.

AGAIN, I WANT TO, LIKE MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN AT TONS OF MEETINGS, LISTENED TO TONS OF FEEDBACK, TAKING IT ALL INTO ACCOUNT.

IT'S DEFINITELY NOT EASY WHEN YOU HAVE NINE COMPETING PRIORITIES IN OUR ADOPTED PRIORITIES AND A MILLION THINGS GOING ON, A MILLION DIFFERENT NUANCES TO CONSIDER.

MY FIRST QUESTION IS JUST A GENERAL ONE BASED ON YOUR EXPERTISE.

HAVING DONE THIS BEFORE, WE'VE GOT THE EXPERTISE OF TWO DIFFERENT LAW FIRMS. WE'VE GOT A DEMOGRAPHER.

DOES THIS MAP AS IT CURRENTLY SITS, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS HITS THE NINE PRIORITIES TAKING FULL ONTO ACCOUNT THAT THEY ARE OFTENTIMES COMPETING?

>> PRESIDENT MACKEY, WE DO BELIEVE THAT OBVIOUSLY WE ARE BALANCING WITH EMPHASIS ON CERTAIN CRITERIA MORE THAN OTHERS, PARTICULARLY OUR CRITERIA THAT ARE STATUTORY, AS WELL AS OUR FEDERAL CONSIDERATIONS WITH REGARDS TO POTENTIAL RETROGRESSION.

SITTING ON ITS FACE RIGHT NOW, WE BELIEVE THAT IT BALANCES SUFFICIENTLY WITHIN THOSE NINE CRITERIA.

IT IS NOT PERFECT, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, IN TERMS OF FULFILLING EVERY TRUSTEE REQUEST, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME BEING CONSISTENT WITH THOSE CRITERIA AND TRYING TO MEET THOSE CRITERIA.

BUT WE DO FEEL CONFIDENT IN THIS MAP.

AGAIN, WE BRING IT TO THE BOARD TONIGHT TO GET THAT FEEDBACK, THIS FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE HEARING WITH THE IDEA THAT UNDER THE PLAN AND TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH AT THE BOARD, THAT WE WOULD BE BRINGING BACK A TWEET VERSION AGAIN FOR DECEMBER, 2ND.

>> NOW, I KNOW A LOT OF OUR CONVERSATION AND CONVERSATION FOR COMMUNITY, WE HAVE NINE PRIORITIES, BUT A LOT OF IT HAS CENTERED AROUND RETROGRESSION.

AS MUCH AS WE ALL READ, WE'RE NOT EXPERTS ALL IN OUR INDIVIDUAL CAPACITIES.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT OUR PLAN IS TO ACTUALLY GET AN EXPERT TO LOOK AT THIS MAP AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND WHAT THAT WILL ENTAIL AND WHAT THE TIMELINE IS FOR THAT?

>> YES, SIR. PRESIDENT MACKEY, WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH AN EXPERT, I BELIEVE THAT BOTH FIRMS HAVE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST ON OTHER MATTERS TO ANALYZE VOTER HISTORY, ELECTION INFORMATION FROM THE COUNTY IN LIGHT OF THE PROPOSED BOUNDARIES, AT LEAST UNDER CURRENTLY UNDER THIS VARIATION OF PLAN W. THE IDEA IS TO DO AN ANALYSIS WITH RESPECT TO OUR MINORITY OPPORTUNITY DISTRICTS, AS WELL AS TO DETERMINE IF UNDER THE CURRENT LINES OR THE PROPOSED LINES RATHER OF THIS PLAN, WOULD THE CANDIDATES THAT ARE CURRENTLY SITTING IN OFFICE STILL BE ELECTABLE WITH REGARDS TO THIS ITERATION OF A PROPOSED BOUNDARY REVISION, THAT'S A LABOR-INTENSIVE PROCESS.

WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT AND COGNIZANT OF THE TIME THAT IT MIGHT TAKE OUR EXPERT TO DO THAT.

MISS WHITE, ACTUALLY I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN IN TALKS WITH OUR EXPERT ON THAT.

>> YEAH, SORRY. I CAN JUMP IN REAL QUICKLY.

WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE ENGAGED DR. JOHN ALFORD, WHO IS A PROFESSOR FROM RICE UNIVERSITY.

HE'S WORKED WITH BOTH FIRMS ON NUMEROUS MATTERS; ELECTION RELATED MATTERS AND REDISTRIBUTING MATTERS.

WE'VE EXPLAINED THE SITUATION WITH DALLAS ISD.

WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO IS ONCE WE HAVE A MAP, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE SHOWING HIM MAP W. HE'S GOING TO LOOK AT THAT MAP AND REVIEW ELECTION RECORDS, ELECTION HISTORY SO THAT HE CAN PROVIDE THAT ANALYSIS THAT WE NEED FROM A STATISTICAL STANDPOINT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS GOING TO STICK FROM A RETROGRESSION PERSPECTIVE.

WHAT HE STATED IS THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE HIM ABOUT A WEEK TO DO THAT ANALYSIS.

WE'RE PLANNING FOR THAT ANALYSIS TO

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CERTAINLY BE COMPLETE BY THE NEXT BOARD MEETING ON DECEMBER, 2ND.

>> THANK YOU. I'M EXCITED TO HEAR THAT.

I THINK THAT IS INCREDIBLY CRITICAL THAT WE LOOK AT THIS AND WE HAVE A NATIONALLY RENOWNED EXPERT BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN.

DID I HEAR YOU SAY IT WOULD BE FEASIBLE GIVEN IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND THEY CAN AT LEAST LOOK AT THIS ONE KNOWING THAT MAYBE A FEW TWEAKS HERE AND THERE, THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION BEFORE WE RECONVENE ON DECEMBER, 2ND?

>> YES, SIR.

>> GREAT. THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.

I WILL SEE ANYONE ELSE FOR FIRST AROUND.

WE WILL MOVE TO SECOND ROUND.

WE'LL BEGIN WITH TRUSTEE MARSHALL.

>> I'D LIKE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR CRITERIA.

ONE CRITERIA WE HAD HAD TO DEAL WITH WHERE TRUSTEES LIVE.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT CRITERIA WAS?

>> THAT WAS IN THE NON STATUTORY CRITERIA, TRUSTEE MARSHALL.

MAY BRING THAT SCREEN UP FOR YOU.

[OVERLAPPING] HAD TO DO WITH PRESERVING TRUSTEE INCUMBENT AND CONSTITUENT RELATIONS.

>> RIGHT. WHICH WAS ACHIEVED BY KEEPING THE TRUSTEE IN THE DISTRICT IN WHICH THEY CURRENTLY RESIDE, RIGHT?

>> YES, SIR.

>> WAS THERE ANY CRITERIA THAT SAID THAT WHERE A TRUSTEE LIVES SHOULD DICTATE WHICH NEW VOTERS THEY GET IN OTHER PARTS OF THE DISTRICT?

>> NO, SIR. THERE WAS NOT.

>> TRUSTEE MICCICHE JUST ARTICULATED THAT SINCE HE LIVES CLOSE TO THESE PRESSINGS, HE SHOULD HAVE THEM.

THEN HE TOLD YOU THAT HE RUNS AROUND THE LAKE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE LAKE, IS THERE ANY CRITERIA THAT SAYS THAT WHERE A TRUSTEE WORKS OUT HAS ANY RELEVANCE OR WHATSOEVER FOR REDISTRICTING?

>> THERE IS NOT THAT SPECIFIC CRITERIA.

>> OKAY. THEN HE [INAUDIBLE] ONE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S ALL AROUND THE LAKE.

IS THERE ANY EVIDENCE THAT LAKEWOOD AND FOREST HILLS ARE THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD JUST BECAUSE THEY TOUCH A BODY OF WATER?

>> AGAIN, WE RELY ON THE TRUSTEES WITH REGARDS TO THEIR ASSESSMENT OF THAT SINCE WE DON'T LIVE IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR MAINLY TO MY COLLEAGUES, THE ARGUMENTS THAT TRUSTEE MICCICHE IS MAKING AS TO WHY HE SHOULD HAVE THE WOODROW FEEDER PATTERN BROKEN IN HALF ARE BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE TO HIS HOUSE AND IT'S ALL ONE GIANT NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE FIRST ONE IS PATENTLY IRRELEVANT.

THE SECOND ONE IS PATENTLY FALSE.

THEY ARE NOT THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY VOTE VERY DIFFERENTLY.

IN FACT, THEY TYPICALLY DISAGREE ON MOST POLITICAL ISSUES.

THE ONLY THING THEY AGREE ABOUT IS DREDGING WHITE ROCK LAKE, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SCHOOL BOARD ISSUES.

IT'S NOT THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD. I ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY.

I APPRECIATE TRUSTEE MICCICHE CORRECTING ME.

I MISSTATED BRYAN ADAMS. I MEANT CONRAD AND I THINK HE KNOWS THAT.

CONRAD IS VERY CLOSE TO DANDY ROGERS.

BUT FRANKLY, THE REASON I MISSPOKE IS BECAUSE I'M SO AGITATED ABOUT THIS.

THIS WAS SNUCK INTO THIS MAP AT THE LAST MINUTE WITHOUT ANY CONVERSATION WITH ME.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M HEARING ABOUT IT AND I'M HIGHLY AGITATED AS A RESULT OF THAT.

TO BE CLEAR, THERE IS NO PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE TO CHANGE ATTENDANT'S BOUNDARIES FOR DANDY ROGERS.

ALL I'M ARTICULATING IS THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO MAXIMIZE ATTENDANCE BOUNDARIES, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT ONE DAY.

BUT WHETHER IT IS OR NOT, THE SIMPLE REALITY IS THAT CHANGING ONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS BOUNDARY OUT OF THE HILLCREST FEEDER PATTERN IS NOWHERE NEAR THE SAME AS TAKING ALL OF LAKEWOOD OUT OF THE WOODROW FEEDER PATTERN.

IF I RECALL, ONE OF OUR CRITERIA WAS TO TRY TO KEEP FEEDER PATTERNS TOGETHER AND GET FEEDER PATTERNS TOGETHER, WAS IT NOT?

>> OUR CRITERIA, TRUSTEE MARSHALL, AS LISTED ON THE SLIDE RIGHT NOW, FEEDER PATTERNS WERE NOT A SPECIFIC NON-STATUTORY CONSIDERATION, OF THERE THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF THAT BY THE BOARD.

>> WELL, I FIND IT VERY DISAPPOINTING THAT WE ARE WILLING TO VIOLATE THE FEEDER PATTERN OF WOODROW IN LIGHT OF WHAT IS, IN MY VIEW, CLEARLY A GRAB OF VOTERS.

I'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR, I DON'T INTEND TO SEEK REELECTION, SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT ANY ELECTION THAT I MAY HAVE.

I CAN ONLY SPECULATE WHAT TRUSTEE MICCICHE'S MOTIVATIONS ARE WHO LIKELY DOES INTEND TO SEEK REELECTION.

BUT IT'S ODD TO ME THAT A WHITE TRUSTEE IN A WHITE DISTRICT IS CHERRY PICKING THE WIDEST, WEALTHIEST, HIGHEST TURN OUT VOTERS IN THE LARGEST PRECINCTS IN DALLAS.

INSTEAD OF TRYING TO KEEP THE WOODROW FEEDER PATTERN TOGETHER AND TAKING A HIGHLY DENSELY POPULATED MINORITY AREA.

IT BEGS SOME QUESTIONS AND I THINK IT REPRESENTS THE WORST PART OF POLITICS.

I'LL IMPLORE MY FELLOW TRUSTEES TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THE WOODROW FEEDER PATTERN TOGETHER.

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IF WE HAVE TO MOVE PART OF DISTRICT 2, IT SHOULD BE THE NORTHERN PART OF DISTRICT 2 THAT BORDERS DISTRICT 3.

TRUSTEE MICCICHE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THIS, YOU HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER.

I WISH YOU'D USED IT BEFORE THIS MEETING.

WITH THAT, I HAVE TO ATTEND A DINNER, SO I APOLOGIZE, I HAVE TO GO.

>> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE MARSHALL. TRUSTEE MICCICHE.

>> FIRST THING, DO THE OPEN MEETING ACT RULES APPLY TO DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS?

>> I GUESS I CAN JUMP IN ON THAT.

TRUSTEE MICCICHE, IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

PRESUMING THAT IT'S IN RESPONSE TO TRUSTEE MARSHALL'S COMMENT.

NO, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY OPEN MEETINGS ISSUE FOR THE TWO OF YOU, FOR EXAMPLE TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A DISCUSSION.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT NOT QUITE THAT SIMPLE.

THE LAW IS IT CAN'T BE PART OF A LARGER SCHEME TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO GET AROUND THE TOMA BY.

WE TWO WE'RE GOING TO TALK AND FIGURE SOMETHING OUT, THEN WE'RE GOING GO HAVE THESE OTHER TEAM.

IF YOU ORCHESTRATE IT LIKE THAT, YES, YOU CAN RUN INTO A PROBLEM, BUT IF IT'S SIMPLY PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL ME, LET'S TALK ABOUT A SPECIFIC ISSUE THAT ALWAYS HAS BEEN LEGAL AND STILL CAN BE DONE.

>> FIVE TRUSTEES COULD GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT ABOUT COMING UP MAP.

>> NO. I WAS TALKING ABOUT TWO.

>> I'M GLAD TO HAVE THAT CLARIFICATION, BUT I'M NOT SURE I KNOW WHERE THE BOUNDARIES BEGIN AND END WHEN YOU'RE TALKING IN MEETINGS.

>> IT CAN BE A SLIPPERY SLOPE TRUSTEE MICCICHE.

TWO IS CLEARLY OKAY, FIVE IS CLEARLY NOT, AND THEN IT'S SLIPPERY SLOPE FROM THERE.

>> WHAT IF TRUSTEE MARSHALL WAS TALKING TO TRUSTEE CARREON AND TRUSTEE JOHNSON AND TRUSTEE BACKING.

IF HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE MAP TO ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE.

OR IF I'M DOING THAT AND TALKING TO ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE, DOESN'T THAT RAISE OPEN MEETINGS ACTIVE LOCATION?

>> IT CAN BE PROBLEMATIC, YES.

THE EASIEST WAY TO PROVE YOU DIDN'T DO SOMETHING WRONG IS TO NOT HAVE TO GOING DO THAT.

TRUSTEE MICCICHE, I DON'T MIND DOING THIS AND OPEN BECAUSE WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE LAW, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT CLOSED SESSION AS WELL, BUT YES.

>> I'VE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS IN PEOPLE MEETING, NOT IN OPEN SESSION ABOUT THE MAPS.

IT DOES SEEM TO ME THAT TALKING ABOUT IT IN OPEN SESSION, I'M NOT ONE WHO'S TRYING TO ADD TERRITORY TO DISTRICT 3.

I ACTUALLY DIDN'T THINK WE NEEDED TO DO IT.

I'VE BEEN SURPRISED THAT THE FIRST THREE MAPS THAT DIDN'T ADD TERRITORY TO DISTRICT 3, I WAS FINE WITH.

BUT ONCE YOU TELL US WE'VE GOT TO MOVE SOME POPULATION OUT OF DISTRICT 2 INTO DISTRICT 3.

MY THOUGHT WAS, I LIVE IN THE WHITE ROCK NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHILE TRUSTEE MARSHALL, WHO DOESN'T LIVE IN THE WHITE ROCK NEIGHBORHOOD, DOESN'T THINK IT'S ONE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT IS ONE BIG NEIGHBORHOOD.

IF YOU LIVE AROUND, WE HAVE WHITE ROCK LAKE, IT'S ONE BIG NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT IS THE REASON WHY I WANTED IF I HAD TO TAKE A PART OF DISTRICT 2 WHICH SHOULD BE THE PART THAT I LIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I LIVE IN.

I HAVEN'T DONE THE MATH CALCULATIONS, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THOSE MAPS ARE.

I'VE BEEN MEANING ONE OF THE TRUSTEES THAT IS LOOKING AT AT THOSE ISSUES.

I LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, I'VE LIVED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ON BOTH SIDES OF THE LAKE FOR 35 YEARS AND THAT'S HOW PROBABLY DIE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

WHOEVER IS IN THAT DISTRICT IS IN THAT DISTRICT, I'M OKAY WITH IT.

I FIND IT REALLY HARD TO BELIEVE THAT I'M THE ONE WHO IS SOMEHOW DOING THE POLITICAL CALCULUS ON THIS.

I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL TERRITORY.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADD ADDITIONAL TERRITORY, IT SHOULD BE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS CURRENTLY DIVIDED, WHICH IS WHAT WHITE ROCK LAKE AND IT MAKES THAT DISTRICT MORE COMPACT.

THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT.

TRUSTEE MARSHALL I'M SURE KNOWS WHO VOTES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HE IS WILLING TO GIVE UP AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HE IS DYING TO KEEP.

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I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M GUESSING THAT EVEN THOUGH HE SAYS HE'S NOT RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION, HE'S CONSIDERING RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION AND HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MAPS IMPROVE FORM.

I'M NOT LOOKING TO IMPROVE THE MAPS.

I AM ONLY LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE HAVE SOME COHESIVENESS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

IT WOULD ALSO BE NICE IF WE COULD TALK ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF WHAT IS BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I CANNOT SEE ANY REASON WHY SOMEONE WHO IS LIVING IN THE WHITE ROCK LAKE AREA WOULD FIND IT OBJECTIONABLE TO HAVE A SECOND TRUSTEE OR ACTUALLY A THIRD TRUSTEE, BECAUSE TRUSTEE HENRY DOES REPRESENT PART OF THE WOODROW FEEDER PATTERN.

TO HAVE A THIRD TRUSTEE WHO COULD ADVOCATE FOR THAT WOODROW, WHITE WOOD COMMUNITY SCHOOLS STAY IN DISTRICT 2.

BUT THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER TRUSTEE THAT WOULD BE INSIDE THE WOODROW FEEDER PATTERN.

BEYOND ALL THAT, THE SAME EFFECT HAPPENS IN THE HILLCREST FEEDER PATTERN.

I DON'T REALLY SEE WHY FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THE ADDITION OF ANOTHER TRUSTEE TO THE HILLCREST FEEDER PATTERN, WHICH IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THAT NORTHERN SECTION OF DISTRICT 2 MOVES INTO DISTRICT 3? WHY THAT IS NOT OBJECTIONABLE AT ALL, BUT IT'S COMPLETELY OBJECTIONABLE THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE LIVID THAT A TRUSTEE THAT LIVES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE REPRESENTING THEM.

AGAIN, I DIDN'T INSTITUTE THESE.

I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH MAPS 1, 2, AND 3, WHICH DO NOT ADD TERRITORY TO DISTRICT 2.

I'M NOT LOOKING TO ADD ANY TERRITORY DISTRICT 2.

BUT IF TERRITORY IS ADDED WHEREVER IT IS, I'M GOING TO BE A GOOD REPRESENTATIVE FOR THAT COMMUNITY.

THE OTHER THING THAT DOES BOTHER ME IS THE DANDY ROGERS ISSUE THAT THAT COMMUNITY.

HAS ANYBODY TOLD THAT COMMUNITY THAT IS PART OF THIS PLAN TO RE-DISTRICT THE VOTING DISTRICTS, THAT COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE MOVED INTO ANOTHER FEEDER PATTERN.

I UNDERSTAND TRUSTEE MARSHALL IS SAYING, WELL, THERE'S NO PLAN TO DO THAT, BUT HE'S MENTIONED IT TWICE NOW, THAT'S WHAT HE THINKS SHOULD HAPPEN.

WELL, HE DIDN'T THINK THAT SHOULD HAPPEN WHEN HE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FIVE YEARS TO WANT TO REZONE IT.

I'M JUST REALLY SHOCKED BY THE COMMENTS BEING MADE.

I DO LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY.

THAT'S WHY IT IS AS CLOSE TO ME AS ANY PART OF DISTRICT 2.

I WOULD BE A GOOD REPRESENTATIVE FOR THAT COMMUNITY BECAUSE I'VE LIVED IN THAT COMMUNITY, I LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY, LIVED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE LAKE.

IT SEEMS ALL OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WERE ARISING IN OTHER PARTS OF THE DISTRICT SEEMED TO BE PRETTY WELL SETTLED.

I AM SUPPORTIVE OF NAP-W AS IT IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE MICCICHE.

TRUSTEE IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR ROUND 2? SEEING NONE, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT ONE ON DECEMBER THE SECOND.

>> THANK YOU PRESIDENT MACKEY. THANK YOU TRUSTEES. GOOD EVENING.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THE TIME IS NOW 7:13, AND THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED.

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* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.