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[1. Notice and Return]
WE HAVE A QUORUM.GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THE CALLED BOARD MEETING OF THE DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
WE WILL DISPENSE WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND A SALUTE TO THE TEXAS FLAG DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE DID THAT AT OUR PREVIOUS MEETING.
THE FOLLOWING TRUSTEES ARE EITHER PHYSICALLY PRESENT OR PARTICIPATING SIMULTANEOUSLY VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE. A QUORUM OF THE BOARD IS PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT ITS LOCATION.
DISTRICT ONE EDWIN FLORES, DISTRICT TWO DUSTIN MARSHALL WILL PARTICIPATE VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE. DISTRICT THREE DAN MICCICHE WILL PARTICIPATE VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE.
DISTRICT FOUR KARLA GARCIA, DISTRICT FIVE MAXIE JOHNSON WILL PARTICIPATE VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE, DISTRICT SIX JOYCE FOREMAN, DISTRICT SEVEN BEN MACKEY, DISTRICT EIGHT JOE CARREÓN AND DISTRICT NINE JUSTIN HENRY WILL PARTICIPATE VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE.
OUR SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS, MICHAEL HINOJOSA JOINS US AND I AM BEN MACKEY, BOARD PRESIDENT. THIS MEETING WILL BE AVAILABLE SIMULTANEOUSLY IN SPANISH, ON SOCIAL MEDIA THROUGH DALLAS ISD IN ESPANOL ON FACEBOOK AND THROUGH THE DISTRICT'S WEBSITE.
SPANISH] OUR AGENDA NOW CALLS FOR THE PUBLIC FORUM SEGMENT OF OUR MEETING.
[3. Public Comment]
WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER THIS AFTERNOON.OUR SPEAKER IS REMINDED THAT SUBSTITUTIONS ARE NOT ALLOWED.
IF YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, YOU CANNOT SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SOMEONE ELSE.
SPEAKERS WHO FAIL TO ADHERE TO THIS RULE WILL BE INTERRUPTED AND INFORMED YOUR COMMENTS ARE OUT OF ORDER. MS. GULLY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE SPEAKER? YES, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND OUR SPEAKER THAT YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
TAKE MY MASK OFF? TO SPEAK YOU MAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS RANDALL BRYANT.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE RELATING TO REDISTRICTING.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DO NOT KNOW, I SERVE ON THE CITY OF DALLAS'S REDISTRICTING COMMISSION. I'M THE FOUNDER OF THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL REDISTRICTING PROJECT, WHICH AIMS TO PROTECT, PRESERVE AND PRODUCE MINORITY REPRESENTATION IN SIX CITIES AND FOUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS ACROSS NORTH TEXAS, AS WELL AS I AM A CONSULTANT FOR REDISTRICTING TO THE TEXAS DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND IN NO RELATION TO REDISTRICTING, BUT IN THE DIRECT IMPACT OF DALLAS ISD, I ALSO CHAIR OUR DISTRICT'S MWB ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WHILE I FULLY SUPPORT THE IDEA AND HAVE ADVOCATED OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS ACROSS THE STATE FOR LOCAL COUNTY AND STATE BODIES TO FORM INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMISSIONS, IN THIS INSTANCE, I'M CONCERNED IF WE ARE DOING THIS JUST TO CHECK A BOX.
OBVIOUSLY, MY COMMENTS ARE PRIOR TO YOUR DISCUSSION, HOWEVER, NOT CITING ANY PLANS FOR THIS COMMITTEE IN PREVIOUS BRIEFINGS OR PUBLISH TIMELINES.
I WILL ADD SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT FOR YOUR UPCOMING DISCUSSION.
IF YOU APPROVE THIS COMMITTEE, WILL THE MEMBERS HAVE ACCESS TO REDISTRICTING SOFTWARE UTILIZED BY THE LAW FIRM AND WILL AN INDIVIDUAL OR GROUP OF APPOINTED COMMITTEE MEMBERS BE ABLE TO SUBMIT MAP PLANS TO THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION? WILL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS BE ASKED TO ATTEND COMMUNITY MEETINGS OUTSIDE OF THEIR SPECIFIC DISTRICT IN WHICH THEY WERE APPOINTED BY? WILL THESE COMMITTEES COMMITTEE MEETINGS BE FORMALLY RECORDED, ARCHIVED AND PRESERVED BY THE DISTRICT FOR REFERENCE FOR POSSIBLE FUTURE LITIGATION? IF THE ANSWER TO ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS AND MANY OTHERS THAT I HAVE IS NO, THEN MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WHAT IS THE POINT? REDISTRICTING IS THE MOST PROPAGATED, POLITICIZED AND POLARIZED PROCESS WITHIN OUR ELECTORAL SYSTEM.
IT'S NO WONDER THAT WE ONLY PARTICIPATE IN THIS EFFORT ONCE EVERY 10 YEARS AS THE BATTLE SCARS ARE QUITE LASTING.
SO AGAIN, I ASK YOU TO CREATE AN OPEN, TRANSPARENT AND PUBLIC PROCESS WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS TRULY AT THE TABLE.
AND IF NOT, THEN WE ARE JUST CHECKING THE BOX HERE.
THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES OUR SPEAKERS.
THANK YOU, MS. KELLY, THANK YOU TO OUR SPEAKER.
WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR THE REDISTRICTING PRESENTATION.
[4. Discussion Items]
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO OUR TEAM FOR THE PRESENTATION.GOOD AFTERNOON, DR. HINOJOSA, BOARD MEMBERS.
LAURA MCCLAIN HERE ON BEHALF OF THE REDISTRICTING TEAM, ALONG WITH MY COLLEAGUES ASHLEY WHITE AND CARLOS LOPEZ AND WESLEY NOOT.
AND WE'LL BE ADDRESSING AND ANSWERING QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MAY HAVE IN REGARDS TO THE FIRST TOPIC, WHICH IS THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED CONCERNING THE DATA, THE GOOD STUFF, SO TO SPEAK, THAT OUR DEMOGRAPHER HAS BEEN ABLE TO SYNTHESIZE.
NOW I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE HAD THIS INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME AND HAD TIME TO DISSECT IT.
I THINK FOR PURPOSES OF OUR DISCUSSION TODAY, I'M IN.
MY INTENT IS TO GO OVER THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT AND TO THE EXTENT THAT Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS THAT WANT TO KIND OF GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, WE CERTAINLY CAN DO SO AS A GROUP.
WITH REGARDS TO THE DATA ON THE 2010 PROCESS.
KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS INFORMATION THAT CAME AFTER THE DISTRICT REDISTRICTED FOLLOWING THE THE 2010 CENSUS AND WHAT YOU HAD WAS A DEVIATION THAT GOT YOU BELOW 10 PERCENT.
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AND AS A RESULT OF THAT REDISTRICTING EFFORT AND THE AND THE MAP THAT WAS APPROVED AND PASSED LAST TIME YOU ENDED UP WITH A MAJORITY MINORITY SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS IN FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT.WE ALL HAD A DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF POPULATION SIZES AT THAT POINT BETWEEN SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT FIVE AND SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT FOUR, WHERE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT FIVE WAS THE LARGEST IN POPULATION AND SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT FOUR WAS THE SMALLEST IN POPULATION.
JUST SOME READING HERE ON THESE PARTICULAR CHARTS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE'VE PROVIDED THE DEMOGRAPHER HAS PROVIDED YOU WITH PERCENTAGE INFORMATION AS WELL AS NUMERICAL INFORMATION.
AND THAT'S REALLY JUST DONE FOR VISUALS AND PROCESSING.
I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WORK BETTER WITH NUMBERS, OTHERS WORK BETTER WITH PERCENTAGES.
BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE ALWAYS TRY TO GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION IN NUMBERS, FOLLOWED BY THOSE PERCENTAGES.
SO FLIPPING OVER TO THE SECOND PAGE, THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT THEY, AS THEY HAVE BEEN REPORTED THROUGH THE U.S.
CENSUS BASED ON THE 2020 CENSUS DATA.
AND THIS IS WHERE YOU KIND OF GET INTO THE GOOD STUFF, SO TO SPEAK, IN TERMS OF CHANGES AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST 10 YEARS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.
AND JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS FOR YOU.
THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES NOW IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS THE SMALLEST AND WHAT WAS THE LARGEST IN POPULATION WHEN IT CAME TO THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.
AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT FIVE CONTINUED TO REMAIN THE LARGEST IN POPULATION, BUT WE'VE HAD A FLIP WHERE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT SEVEN IS NOW THE SMALLEST IN POPULATION AND TAKING THOSE NUMBERS INTO ACCOUNT.
OUR DEMOGRAPHER HAS DONE THE ANALYSIS ON THE DEVIATION AND WHAT WE HAVE NOW SITTING HERE TODAY IS A DEVIATION PERCENTAGE BETWEEN THOSE TWO SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS OF TWENTY SEVEN POINT NINE PERCENT.
SO CLEARLY WE HAVE GONE OVER THE 10 PERCENT TRIGGER MARKER THAT WE HAVE UNDER THE LAW, UNDER OUR STATE LAWS.
AND SO THE DISTRICT WILL BE REQUIRED TO REDISTRICT.
OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE.
AND THOSE ARE IN THE THE SECOND FOR LACK OF THE SECOND SECTION ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, YOU WILL SEE THE PERCENTAGES.
AND WHAT OUR DEMOGRAPHER HAS DONE THERE IS TO HIGHLIGHT TO THE BOARD WHAT THOSE PERCENTAGES ARE IN TERMS OF THE DIFFERENT BREAKDOWN OF OUR POPULATION, BOTH OUR ANGLO POPULATION AND OUR DIFFERENT MINORITY POPULATIONS THROUGH ASIAN POPULATION, OUR BLACK POPULATION, OUR HISPANIC POPULATION.
AND AS I NOTED TO YOU ON THE FIRST SLIDE, WE HAD MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICTS IN FIVE OF THE NINE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS FOLLOWING THE 2010 REDRAWN MAP.
NOW THOSE PERCENT, THAT NUMBER HAS CHANGED.
I THINK WE CAN SAY WITH CONFIDENCE THAT WE HAVE STILL HAVE FOUR MINORITY MAJORITY SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS, BOTH IN POPULATION AS WELL AS IN VOTING, VOTING AGE, POPULATION.
BUT NOW THE COMPOSITION OF THOSE HAS CHANGED A BIT.
SO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING FOR YOU, IF YOU DO A COMPARISON, WE THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT FIVE IN TERMS OF THE POPULATION COUNT.
AND SO INEVITABLY IT HAS ALSO IMPACTED THE POPULATION AMOUNTS WHEN IT COMES TO OUR MINORITY POPULATIONS, PARTICULARLY OUR AFRICAN-AMERICAN POPULATION.
AND SO THAT HAS FALLEN JUST BELOW BEING A MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT.
CURRENTLY, AS THE CURRENT POPULATION SITS WITHIN THE CURRENT SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT LINES, AND SO I POINT THAT OUT TO YOU ONLY BECAUSE THOSE ARE FACTORS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS IN MEETING WITH OUR INDIVIDUAL TRUSTEES, AS WELL AS THE INDIVIDUAL TOWN HALLS THAT WILL BE HAD IN OUR SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.
SO THOSE ARE CERTAINLY THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND.
IT ALSO, I THINK, IS IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT TO THE BOARD THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICTS, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THAT PERCENTAGE OF 50 PERCENT AND GOING OVER THAT.
AND SO THERE WAS A LEVEL OF THAT PREVIOUSLY FOLLOWING THE 2010 REDRAW DRAWN MAP, THE CURRENT MAP THAT YOU HAVE AND KNOWING WHAT THOSE PERCENTAGES WERE AT THAT POINT IS ALSO A CONSIDERATION FOR ISSUES SUCH AS RETROGRESSION, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY AND WHICH IS A FACTOR CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF WHEN WE ARE REDRAWING DISTRICTS.
IT ALSO KIND OF SHOWS US THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE AT PLAY IN TERMS OF CHANGES NOW.
I THINK CARLOS CAME UP WITH THE BEST EXAMPLE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS EARLIER.
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IT'S KIND OF LIKE A RUBIK'S CUBE.ONCE YOU GET THE COLOR, ALL THE COLOR ON ONE SIDE IN TERMS OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THAT ONE SIDE, IT DOES AFFECT THE OTHER SIDES OF THE CUBE.
AND SO WHEN WE WERE DOING AN INITIAL REVIEW, I THINK YOU COULD TAKE FROM THIS, WELL, CERTAINLY WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING TO MAKE CHANGES TO ADJUST FOR THE DISPARITY IN POPULATION TO BETWEEN FIVE AND SEVEN.
BUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE CERTAIN SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS THAT SIT BETWEEN THOSE AND ON OTHER SIDES OF THOSE, IT'S VERY FEASIBLE THAT THOSE OTHER DISTRICTS, WHILE TECHNICALLY BALANCED, MAY HAVE TO COME INTO PLAY WHEN WE'RE DOING REDRAWING OF THE LINES AND SHIFTING POPULATIONS. SO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS.
THE NEXT SLIDE WITH REGARDS TO THE CHANGE ANALYSIS.
AGAIN, THIS IS A FURTHER BREAKDOWN OF JUST HOW THE NUMBERS AND PERCENTAGES COME OUT.
IT IS THINK OF IT AS A POSITIVE NEGATIVE ANALYSIS AND BREAKING IT DOWN NOT ONLY BY SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT, BUT ALSO BREAKING IT DOWN BY THE VARIOUS POPULATION GROUPS THAT WE HAVE NOTED IN THESE COLUMNS.
SO WHAT WE TRIED TO PROVIDE THE IS INFORMATION TO SHOW HOW THE POPULATION MAY HAVE BEEN LOST IN A PARTICULAR DISTRICT AND WHAT PARTICULAR POPULATION HAS GONE DOWN IN TERMS OF POPULATION. WE ALSO SHOW THE SAME INFORMATION IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE VOTING AGE POPULATION. I DO WANT TO MAKE A NOTE THAT THESE CHARTS RIGHT NOW DO NOT HAVE CITIZEN VOTING AGE, POPULATION, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH OUR DEMOGRAPHER. I BELIEVE IN THE LAST MEETING.
WE EXPLAINED THAT THE CENSUS DOES NOT TRACK CITIZENSHIP.
AND SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE OBTAINED FROM THE U.S.
CENSUS, BUT THERE ARE OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES OR GOVERNMENTAL OFFICES THAT SURVEY THIS INFORMATION THROUGH SURVEYS THAT ARE DONE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, AND OUR DEMOGRAPHER IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON THAT TO OBTAIN THAT INFORMATION AS IT RELATES TO THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS BASED ON POPULATION.
SO WE'RE WORKING CURRENTLY ON CITIZEN VOTING AGE POPULATION BECAUSE THAT IS CERTAINLY A FACTOR TO CONSIDER AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
SO AGAIN, JUST SHOWING THE HIGHLIGHTS TO YOU THERE ON SLIDE THREE, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE PARTICULAR NUMBERS AND THE PARTICULAR POPULATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED, JUST BY THE WAY POPULATIONS HAVE SHIFTED.
THE OTHER SLIDES THAT WE HAVE ARE GOING THROUGH EACH INDIVIDUAL SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT.
I WASN'T GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL INTO THOSE, AS I SAID EARLIER, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH MENTIONING THAT THE REAL FOR ME, AT LEAST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, THE REAL IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO DRAW FROM ON THESE INDIVIDUAL SINGLE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT SLIDES IS THE THIRD COLUMN AND THE COLUMN THAT TALKS ABOUT TOTAL POPULATION AND THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT POPULATION. I THINK THAT IS HELPFUL FOR SEEING HOW THINGS ARE BROKEN DOWN WITHIN YOUR RESPECTIVE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.
I ALSO WANTED TO HAVE A NOTE OF CLARIFICATION HERE AS IT RELATES TO THESE INDIVIDUAL SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT SLIDES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DISTRICT ONE.
THE OTHERS ARE STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS ON THE LAST THREE COLUMNS.
THE LAST THREE COLUMNS REPRESENT ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT THE DATA, WHICH IS A BREAKDOWN BY PERCENTAGE BETWEEN THE DIFFERENCE IN DIFFERENT POPULATION GROUPS, THE DEVIATION OR THE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED BY PERCENTAGE FROM THE 2010 POPULATION NUMBER IN THAT SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT FOR SPECIFIC POPULATIONS AND TOTAL POPULATION AND THE 2020 NUMBERS.
THAT IS ANOTHER JUST KIND OF ANOTHER PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT I THINK THE DEMOGRAPHER FELT WAS HELPFUL.
HOWEVER, IT'S NOT BEEN FINALIZED AT THE TIME THAT THAT THE DISTRICT WAS REQUIRING US TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION.
I DON'T BELIEVE HE HAD YET FULFILLED OR FINISHED UP THOSE OTHER COLUMNS FOR DISTRICTS TWO THROUGH NINE, BUT THEY ARE SET FOR DISTRICT SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT ONE FOR NOW.
YEAH, IT'S OH, IT'S NOT WHAT CARLOS WAS MENTIONING IS DON'T RELY ON THAT, THOSE THIRD COLUMNS, THOSE THREE COLUMNS AS IT RELATES TO SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS TWO THROUGH NINE BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.
THEY WILL, HOWEVER, BE FINALIZED SOON.
SO MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDES, UNLESS WE'LL COME BACK TO THEM, IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS.
LET'S GO TO SO KIND OF WE NOW ARE GOING TO MOVE OVER TO WHAT ARE THE KEY TAKEAWAYS FOR NOW THAT WE CAN TAKE FROM THIS? NO DOUBT THE DISTRICT HAS GROWN IN POPULATION SIZE.
WE ARE LOOKING AT ONE POINT ONE APPROXIMATELY A MILLION INDIVIDUALS IN DALLAS ISD.
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THEY'VE DALLAS HAS ADDED EIGHTY SIX, APPROXIMATELY EIGHTY SIX THOUSAND INDIVIDUALS FROM SINCE 2010.WE DO HAVE A DIFFERENTIAL OR A DEVIATION THAT GOES ABOVE 10 PERCENT, SO IT WILL REQUIRE THE DISTRICT TO REDISTRICT.
AND SO WE NOW HAVE WE NOW HAVE CERTAINTY THAT WE HAVE TO START THROUGH THE PROCESS.
I THINK ALSO WE COULD SAY THAT WHILE NOT ALL DISTRICTS MAY BE IMPACTED, I DO THINK WE PROBABLY ARE GOING TO BE SEEING A MAJORITY OF THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS BEING IMPACTED JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE POPULATIONS ARE BREAKING DOWN.
IN ADDITION TO THE DEVIATION BETWEEN OUR TWO MAIN DISTRICTS OF SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS ONE, SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT FIVE AND SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT SEVEN.
THE LAST SLIDE ON THIS PRESENTATION RELATES TO JUST INFORMATION THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE BOARD, SINCE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION OF THAT, AND THAT IS JUST TO LAY OUT THE CAMPUSES THAT LIE WITHIN EACH SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT.
FINALLY, OUR JUST KIND OF OUR NEXT STEPS IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT.
JUST A REMINDER, PER THE PLAN, THAT PROCESS AND PLAN THAT THE BOARD ADOPTED AT THE LAST MEETING FROM SEPTEMBER 10TH THROUGH OCTOBER 1ST, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS TRUSTEE DIRECTED COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
WE NOW HAVE NOT ONLY JUST THE PROCESS NOW OF EDUCATING OUR STAKEHOLDERS IN OUR SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS ABOUT THE PROCESS, BUT ALSO THE CHANGE DATA, THE POPULATION DATA, THAT GOOD STUFF THAT THAT PEOPLE CAN REVIEW AND ANALYZE.
TRUSTEE 101 MEETINGS WITH THE DEMOGRAPHER AND THE REDISTRICTING TEAM IN ORDER TO PROVIDE OR OBTAIN FOR THE TEAM TO PROVIDE AND GET INFORMATION FROM OUR SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT TRUSTEES ON WHAT THEY ARE HEARING FROM FROM THEIR CONSTITUENTS.
WE ALSO ARE SCHEDULED TO DO A TELE-TOWN HALL ROUND NUMBER ONE FOR WIDER COMMUNITY INPUT ON THE RELEASE DATA AND THE PROCESS, AS WELL AS AT THIS POINT, THE MAP OPTIONS IS ON THE LIST TO BE CONSIDERED FROM FOR THIS TIME FRAME.
A NOTE ON THOSE INITIAL MAP OPTIONS WE ANTICIPATE IN TALKING WITH A DEMOGRAPHER THAT THEY WILL HAVE A BASELINE MAP OR MAPS TO THINK ABOUT OR TO CONSIDER BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK, FRIDAY IS WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD.
SO THOSE ARE COMING SOON NOW THAT WE'VE GOT THE DATA.
OCTOBER IS GOING TO BE FOR THE TEAM TO SUMMARIZE TRUSTEE AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, AS WELL AS TO PREPARE POTENTIAL MAPS.
AND THEN WE HAVE FOR OCTOBER, THE OCTOBER CALLED MEETING.
WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT SUMMARIZING TRUSTEE AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE AND THEN PRESENTING MAPS TO THE BOARD AGAIN BASED ON THAT TRUSTEE AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED AND THEN, OF COURSE, TO OBTAIN ANY QUESTIONS AND ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK BY THE BOARD.
SO I WILL PAUSE THERE BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ITEM IN CASE THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILED PRESENTATION.
TRUSTEES WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN QUESTION AND ANSWERS REGARDING THIS.
IF YOU ARE A TRUSTEE ONLINE, IF YOU CAN PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE YOUR RAISED HAND THERE.
AND WE'LL MOVE THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
SO WE'LL START WITH TRUSTEE FOREMAN [INAUDIBLE] FOLLOWED BY TRUSTEE GARCIA.
SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS WE'D HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT TRUSTEES BEING ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE TOOL TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THEIR OWN MAPS.
WHEN DO THE TRUSTEES GET ACCESS TO THE TOOL TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH ADMINISTRATION, IS TRYING TO FIND OUTLETS THROUGH DISTRICT RESOURCES TO PROVIDE THAT ACCESS TO THE TRUSTEES, OUR DEMOGRAPHER MAINTAINS A PROGRAM FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM MS. FOREMAN. THAT IS A PROPRIETARY PROGRAM.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM TO SEE ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF EXTENDING LICENSES FOR THAT PURPOSE.
BUT I KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT ON OUR END AND I BELIEVE THAT ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS LOOKING AT IT FROM GETTING THIS IS A SHORT TIME FRAME.
AND TO ME, BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BECAUSE THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE AN URGENCY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TRUSTEES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THEIR OWN MAPS.
AND SO WHAT IT ALSO SAYS TO ME IS IS THAT WE'LL END UP WITH MAPS THAT ARE PRESENTED BY YOU GUYS ON A SHORT TIME FRAME.
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AND IT'S EITHER THAT OR NOTHING.I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON GETTING THAT FOR TRUSTEES.
YES. AS A MATTER OF FACT, TODAY ON THE REDISTRICTING ESSENTIALS PAGE FOR THE DISTRICT, THE INTERACTIVE MAPS WITH ALONG WITH THE TUTORIAL HAVE BEEN POSTED SO THAT ANYONE CAN DRAW MAPS AND MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND SAVE THOSE MAPS TO THE SYSTEM.
SO THE NEXT THE NEXT QUESTION IS I ACTUALLY SIT BETWEEN THE TWO DISTRICTS THAT ARE MOSTLY IMPACTED. THAT'S FIVE AND SEVEN AND I'M SIX.
SO ULTIMATELY, I WILL BE IMPACTED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TOTAL POPULATION WITHIN MY DISTRICT, WHICH IS DISTRICT SIX.
AND THEN I BEGAN TO BREAK THAT DOWN BY RACE, SO IT BECOMES A MINORITY DISTRICT BASED ON RACE, CORRECT? MM HMM. IT'S STILL ON PAGE TWO THAT'LL SHOW YOU THAT INFORMATION.
I'M LOOKING AT TOTAL BLACK POPULATION FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND.
HISPANIC POPULATION FIFTY ONE THOUSAND.
ANGLO POPULATION FIVE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND NINETY SEVEN, WHICH WAS A DECLINE IN ANGLO POPULATION.
WHEN WE ARE DOING THE TOTAL POPULATION FOR THE REDISTRICTING.
WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE NUMBER THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR LOOKING AT IN TOTAL TERMS OF POPULATION AND IS THE VARIANCE 10 PERCENT OF WHAT WILL THE VARIANCE BE? WELL, WHAT YOU'RE MATHEMATICALLY WHAT YOU WOULD BE IF WE WERE JUST NOT CONSIDERING CRITERIA RIGHT NOW AS YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT NINE DISTRICTS, TAKE YOUR TOTAL POPULATION AND DIVIDE IT BY NINE.
AND SO YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THAT'S THE NOT NECESSARILY THE GOAL, BUT THE BUT THE A FAIR DIVISION. MM HMM.
AND SO BUT THAT'S NOT CONSIDERING OUR CENSUS BLOCKS.
WHERE OUR POPULATION CENTERS ARE FOR OUR MINORITY POPULATIONS.
AND WHEN WE MOVE A CENSUS BLOCK, HOW IS THAT GOING TO IMPACT THE PARTICULAR MINORITY POPULATION THAT IS SITTING IN THE DISTRICT CURRENTLY FOR THAT PARTICULAR SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT? AND SO THE NUMBER THAT DOES RAISE SOME THAT'S SIGNIFICANCE, I WOULD SAY, IS WHERE WE ENDED UP LAST TIME AFTER THE 2010 MODEL.
SO IF FOR SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT SIX IN 2010, IF YOU LOOK AT I'LL JUST TAKE I'LL JUST TAKE THE THE THE BLACK POPULATION YOU'VE GOT.
YOU HAD A TOTAL BLACK POPULATION OF FIFTY THREE POINT ONE PERCENT IN SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT SIX AFTER 2010.
CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW, THAT POPULATION IS SITTING BASED ON THIS DATA AT FORTY SEVEN POINT FOUR PERCENT.
SO IT'S LOWER JUST BY THE VERY NATURE OF WHERE OUR CURRENT DATA IS COMING OUT FROM THE CENSUS. SO IN REDRAWING, WE WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF NOT HOW DO WE NOT NEGATE OR FURTHER NEGATIVELY IMPACT THAT PERCENTAGE WHEN WE ARE MOVING LINES? SO THAT IS CERTAINLY A CONSIDERATION OF WHAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.
WHEN WE ARE MOVING THOSE LINES IS WE STARTED OUT AT A 50 PERCENT OR OVER AMOUNT BY NATURAL POPULATION GROWTH WE NOW HAVE OR NATURAL POPULATION SHIFTS.
AND SO THOSE ARE CONSIDERATIONS THAT GO INTO WHEN WE'RE MOVING POT.
OK, I'M MUST BE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT PAGE THAN YOU ARE BECAUSE THE ONE I'M LOOKING AT FOR THE 2020 CENSUS.
IS SHE LOOKING AT THE THREE? ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE FAR THREE COLUMNS ON YOUR SLIDE? THOSE THOSE THREE COLUMNS ARE THE ONES THAT I AM SAYING ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF BEING WORKED IF YOU ARE.
OK, SO WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT WITH THE FORTY SEVEN PERCENT? BECAUSE I AM, I AM LOOKING AT I GO BACK AND I LOOK AT ON THE FIRST SLIDE IS THE 2010.
SO I LOOK AT SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT SIX.
IF YOU GO ACROSS FOR TOTAL BLACK POPULATION, IT WAS FIFTY THREE POINT ONE PERCENT.
OK, THIS WAS AFTER THE 2010 REVISION AND THE CURRENT LINES THAT WE HAVE.
I'M STILL NOT SEEING THE SAME THING.
THAT'S ON THE FIRST SLIDE OF OUR PRESENTATION.
THIS IS THE FIRST SLIDE OF THE PRESENTATION.
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OKAY. [INAUDIBLE] THE NUMBER IS FIFTY EIGHT THOUSAND, SHE SAID.FIFTY THREE POINT ONE PERCENT.
I SEE THAT PERCENTAGE, BUT SHE CALLED OUT A NUMBER.
SO THEN SO IF YOU FLIP THE PAGE, YOU GO TO 2020.
BUT IT'S SHE CALLED OUT 40 SOMETHING THOUSAND.
MM HMM. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
OH, OKAY. SHE'S DOING PERCENTAGES AND NOT REAL NUMBERS.
OKAY. WERE YOU DOING NUMBERS AND.
OK, YEAH. I'M LIKE, I THINK PERCENTAGES.
SOMETHING IS WRONG HERE. I THINK PERCENTAGES.
BUT I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AS A WHOLE, IT'S WE ARE COGNIZANT THAT JUST DUE THE NATURAL SHIFT OF POPULATION.
IN THESE LAST 10 YEARS, THERE HAS OBVIOUSLY BEEN A DIP IN THE IN THE POPULATION, SAY, JUST OF THE BLACK POPULATION IN YOUR SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT.
SO WHEN WE ARE REDRAWING LINES, LET'S THEN WE HAVE TO BE REMINDED OF THAT THAT DO WE DO WE REDRAW AND NOT WANT TO FURTHER NEGATIVELY IMPACT WHAT THE DIP IN POPULATION HAS ALREADY OCCURRED, IN OTHER WORDS, PUSHING IT FURTHER DOWN? THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
AND SO I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT WANT TO SAY THERE'S A MAGIC NUMBER THERE.
I JUST WOULD NOT WANT TO FURTHER NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE POPULATION THAT IS THERE.
AND IF THERE IS OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IT BACK UP TO WHERE IT WAS FOLLOWING 2010 WHILE STILL CONSIDERING ALL THE OTHER FACTORS THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER, THEN THEN THAT THERE MAY BE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
BUT KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE STILL HAVE TO BALANCE THOSE OTHER TWO DISTRICTS THAT ARE AROUND? YEAH, THAT'S A DIFFICULT CHALLENGE.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE I WILL BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER UNLESS I HAVE SOME IDEAS ABOUT MAPS MYSELF AND UNLESS THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE TO BE PRESENTED AND PRESENTED IN A TIMELY FASHION.
SO YOU GUYS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO SEE THOSE AND TO TAKE THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THAT IT MIGHT BE A PROBLEM FOR ME.
YEAH. AND AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO TALK THROUGH, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU'RE GETTING THE FEEDBACK IN YOUR TOWN HALLS.
IF WE'RE THERE OR NOT GETTING THAT FEEDBACK AND THEN ALSO IN THE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS.
YEAH, YEAH. WELL, I'M GETTING FEEDBACK.
I HAVE A VERY AGGRESSIVE AREA.
RANDALL KNOWS HE USED TO LIVE IN IT.
TRUSTEE GARCIA, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO TRUSTEE MARSHALL.
WHO NEEDS TO GO NEXT AND WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.
THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND THEN JUST ONE QUESTION.
FIRST, I WANT TO BEGIN WHERE TRUSTEE FOREMAN LEFT OFF.
I SHARE HER CONCERNS WITH THE DELAY AND THE LACK OF URGENCY IN GETTING ACCESS TO A MAPPING TOOL, AND I HAVE THE BENEFIT OF BEING ON MY COMPUTER RIGHT NOW.
SO WHEN FAY JUST GAVE THE ANSWER THAT WE SHOULD GO TO THE REDISTRICTING PAGE, WHICH WAS UPDATED TODAY, I JUST DID THAT.
AND THE TOOL THAT IS THERE IS CERTAINLY A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT IT IS A FAR CRY FROM WHAT TRUSTEE FOREMAN AND I ARE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT TOOL ALLOWS YOU TO LOOK AT EACH PRECINCT AND TO VIEW DISTRICT MAPS AND THEN TO CLICK ON A PRECINCT, AND IT WILL TELL YOU THE THE COUNTY YOU KNOW WHICH WHICH WHICH VOTING PRECINCT FOR TRUSTEE ELECTIONS, FOR CITY COUNCIL ELECTIONS, FOR COUNTY ELECTIONS THAT THAT PRECINCT IS IN.
BUT IT IS NOT INCORPORATING THE CENSUS DATA THAT YOU HAVE ON THESE SLIDES, SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE THAT TOOL TO ACTUALLY MOVE ONE PRECINCT FROM A CURRENT TRUST.
DID I CUT OUT THERE? YOU CUT OUT BUT YOU'RE BACK.
SORRY, YEAH, I HAVE AN INSTABLE INTERNET CONNECTION, BUT WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT THAT TOOL DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO ACTUALLY CLICK ON A PRECINCT AND MOVE IT FROM ONE TRUSTEE DISTRICT TO A NEXT AND SEE WHAT THE RESULTING NUMBERS ARE FROM A TOTAL VOTING AGE POPULATION OR TOTAL POPULATION BASIS.
SO IT'S NOT USEFUL FOR DRAWING ACTUAL MAPS.
SO I WANT TO PAUSE THERE AND AND LET YOU GUYS COMMENT ON WHETHER THIS IS THE TOOL THAT YOU HAVE IN MIND, OR IF THERE IS A BETTER VERSION OF THIS TOOL THAT YOU PLAN TO DISTRIBUTE, EITHER TO THE PUBLIC OR TO TRUSTEES.
AND I WILL LEAD THE WITNESS A BIT AND TELL YOU THAT IT IS CERTAINLY MY EXPECTATION THAT
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WE TRUSTEES ARE AT A BARE MINIMUM, GIVEN A BETTER TOOL THAN THE ONE THAT'S ONLINE.[INAUDIBLE] SO AS I SAID EARLIER, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH A DEMOGRAPHER ABOUT ENABLING, AT THE VERY LEAST TRUSTEES ACCESS TO SOME FORM OF A PROGRAM THAT WOULD ENABLE THIS KIND OF REAL TIME POPULATION MOVE THAT YOU'VE JUST REFERENCED.
WE WILL BE VISITING WITH HIM AGAIN.
I THINK ONE OF THE DIVERSIONS FOR THEM WAS TRYING TO GET THE CHANGE ANALYSIS AND THE DATA OUT TO THE DISTRICT SO THAT WE WOULD AT LEAST HAVE THAT FOR PURPOSES OF OUR TIMELINE.
BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO.
IN TERMS OF DISTRICT RESOURCES.
I THINK FAIR ADMINISTRATION WE NEED TO SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT IF WE GO TO OTHER RESOURCES, IT WILL CERTAINLY ADD TO THE COST OF THE PROCESS.
BUT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS CERTAINLY IMPORTANT AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS TO ME, IT DOES. THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT THE DISTRICT CAN LOOK INTO GETTING SOMETHING MORE COMPREHENSIVE THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE WEBSITE.
OK. EXCUSE DOES NOT NEED TO BE A PART OF IT.
WHATEVER WE NEED TO PAY, WE'LL PAY.
IT'S JUST HOW QUICKLY CAN WE GET IT? SO THE MONEY'S NOT THE PROBLEM.
YEAH. I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT.
DR. HINOJOSA. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THAT SEEMS LIKE A VERY POLITICAL ANSWER TO A QUESTION THAT THAT NEEDS TO HAVE BEEN ANSWERED YESTERDAY.
YOU KNOW, I, FOR ONE, AM GOING TO BE VERY UPSET AND VERY DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH IF I AM NOT GIVEN A TOOL THAT ALLOWS ME TO SIT ON MY COUCH AND DRAW MAPS AND THE NOTION THAT YOU'RE TALKING TO THE DEMOGRAPHER AND THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS, THOSE ARE NOT GOOD ANSWERS. I WANT ACCESS TO THIS TOMORROW AND I DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT IT COSTS. SO I JUST SHARE TRUSTEE FOREMAN, TRUSTEE FOREMAN'S URGENCY WITH WITH GETTING THIS TAKEN CARE OF. AND AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL GO FORTH WITH THE PERSPECTIVE THAT THIS HAS TO BE DONE AND IT NEEDS TO BE DONE IMMEDIATELY.
THE SECOND THING I WANT TO BRING UP IS THE SLIDES THAT YOU SHOWED.
I THINK YOU NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT SLIDE FOUR AND DOUBLE CHECK SOME OF YOUR MATH, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO DISTRICT TWO, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE THAT THERE WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF EIGHT THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND SEVENTEEN PEOPLE, AND THAT WOULD SOMEHOW BE A REDUCTION OF 1.2 PERCENT.
SO THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON WITH THE MATH THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE DOUBLE CHECKED.
AND MY LAST COMMENT, OR I GUESS QUESTION IS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR HERE BECAUSE ON ON SLIDE THREE, YOU KNOW, BOTH IN THE BOTH ON THE SLIDE AND IN THE VOICEOVER, YOU ARTICULATED THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE POPULATION IN DISTRICTS FIVE AND SEVEN. AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS THE LARGEST MAGNITUDE DIFFERENTIAL AND THE ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY MAKES US REQUIRED TO REDISTRICT.
BUT THERE IS ALSO AN EXCESS OF A 10 PERCENT DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE SECOND LARGEST AND THE SECOND SMALLEST AND THE THIRD LARGEST AND THE THIRD SMALLEST.
SO MY I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE TARGETING THE ONE POINT ONE MILLION DIVIDED BY NINE, WHICH WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, APPROXIMATELY ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE THOUSAND PER DISTRICT? OR ARE YOU JUST TRYING TO DO WHAT THEY DID IN 2010 AND GET UNDER THE 10 PERCENT DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE THE LARGEST AND THE SMALLEST? I THINK WE'RE STARTING OUT WITH THE FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, THE PRIME NUMBER OF TAKING THE TOTAL POP AND DIVIDING IT BY NINE.
THAT IS CERTAINLY A STARTING POINT.
THE 2010 NUMBERS ARE SIGNIFICANT FOR PURPOSES OF OUR LOOKING AT OUR MINORITY POPS.
MOST DEFINITELY, I DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE GUIDING FORCE, THOUGH, OF OF HOW WE ENDED UP IN 29 TO GET IT UNDER 10 AT NINE POINT SIX.
IF THAT'S YOUR QUESTION, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE PRIMARY, THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE.
IT IS LOOKING AT THE UNIQUE POPULATION OUTLINES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW BASED ON 2020 CENSUS DATA AND USING THAT INFORMATION, RECOGNIZING THAT THERE MIGHT BE AN IDEAL EQUAL NUMBER OF ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE THOUSAND.
AND THEN USING THAT INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE NOW BASED ON THIS CURRENT DATA, TO THEN START REDRAWING LINES THAT ARE STILL CONSISTENT WITH THE CRITERIA THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THE BOARD.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY RESPONSE TO YOUR TO THE LAST POINT.
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WITH REGARD TO THE MATH THAT THAT'S WHY I POINTED OUT TRUSTEE MARSHALL THE THE LAST THREE COLUMNS. I AGREE WITH YOU THAT MATH DOESN'T COMPUTE, AND THAT IS THE SECTION WHERE OUR DEMOGRAPHER IS STILL CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT DATA IN THOSE LAST THREE COLUMNS ON THE INDIVIDUAL SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT PAGES.CAN I [INAUDIBLE]? THE MATH PROBLEM IS NOT IN THE LAST THREE COLUMNS, IT'S IT'S ON PAGE FOUR IN THE ROW.
THE THE IT'S IN THE SECOND COLUMN ON THE ROW FOR DISTRICT TWO, SO IT'S NOT RELATED TO THE PROBLEM YOU, YOU YOU CALLED OUT.
BUT TRUSTEE MARSHALL, I CAN ANSWER THAT FOR YOU.
YOUR DISTRICT DISTRICT NUMBER TWO IN 2010 HAD EIGHTY TWO THOUSAND SIXTY TWO WHITE CONSTITUENTS, WHICH MADE UP SIXTY NINE POINT SEVEN OF YOUR POPULATION SIXTY NINE POINT SEVEN PERCENT IN 2010 OF THE NEW GROWTH THAT EIGHT THOUSAND SIXTY SIX SEVENTEEN OUT OF THE FOURTEEN THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED TOTAL, ACTUALLY ONLY FIFTY NINE PERCENT.
THAT'S FIFTY NINE PERCENT OF NEW GROWTH WAS FROM WHITE POPULATION.
THEREFORE, YOUR PERCENTAGE MAKEUP OF WHITE POPULATION FELL BY ONE POINT TWO PERCENT BECAUSE OTHER DEMOGRAPHIC GROUPS GREW AT A FASTER RATE, SO THAT ONE POINT TWO PERCENT IS THE CHANGE OF PERCENTAGE OF WHITE RESIDENTS IN YOUR AREA FROM 2010 TO 2020.
WELL, YEAH. WITH WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, PRESIDENT MACKEY, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE REST OF THIS THE DATA ON THIS PAGE IS REFLECTING.
IF YOU LOOK AT EVERY, EVERY OTHER ROW ON SLIDE FOUR, THE THE TOTAL AMOUNT UNDER THE TOTAL ANGLO POPULATION, THE THE SIGN OF THAT NUMBER, WHETHER IT'S A POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, IS IS THE THE ANALOGOUS POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE IN THE PERCENTAGE NUMBERS BELOW IT.
AND IN DISTRICT TWO, THERE'S SOME SORT OF MATH ERROR IN IN THE BOTTOM PORTION OF THE SLIDE THAT IS SHOWING THE PERCENTAGES.
WE CAN TAKE IT OFFLINE, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY A MATH ERROR ON THE SLIDE AND PUTTING PUTTING THAT ASIDE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE LAST COMMENT THAT YOU MADE DURING THE PRESENTATION, WHICH IS THAT NOT ALL TRUSTEE DISTRICTS WOULD BE IMPACTED.
THE THE THE ONLY TRUSTEE DISTRICTS THAT ARE CLOSE TO THE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLAR, ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE THOUSAND PEOPLE NUMBER ARE NINE, FOUR AND ONE. ARE YOU IMPLYING THAT THOSE ARE POTENTIALLY THE DISTRICTS THAT WOULD NOT BE IMPACTED BECAUSE THE OTHERS, THEY'RE ALL 10 PERCENT OR MORE AWAY FROM FROM ANOTHER DISTRICT? MY UNDERSTANDING YOUR COMMENT, RIGHT WHEN YOU SAID THAT NOT ALL TRUSTEE DISTRICTS MAY BE IMPACTED? THEY MAY NOT, MAY NOT ALL BE IMPACTED, AS I AS I SAID EARLIER, THE IT IS SOMEWHAT OF A RUBIK'S CUBE.
IN OTHER WORDS, AS YOU, I THINK YOU'VE POINTED OUT WELL THAT IF YOU DO AFFECT ONE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT, IT MAY HAVE AN IMPACT ON ANOTHER THAT MAY BE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO IT BY VIRTUE OF HOW WE MOVE THESE CENSUS BLOCKS.
AND SO I, TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU KNOW, IT MAY HAVE SOUNDED LIKE NO OTHER DISTRICTS WILL BE TOUCHED, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT IT IS PART OF THE PROCESS.
AND INEVITABLY, THERE MAY BE SOME TOUCHING OF DISTRICTS THAT ON EACH SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT IN THIS PROCESS.
OK, WELL, I, FOR ONE, WOULD BENEFIT FROM HAVING ACCESS TO THAT TOOL SO THAT I CAN PLAY WITH THE NUMBERS AND SEE AND VISUALIZE HOW THIS WILL PLAY OUT MYSELF.
SO I HOPE TO GET THAT VERY SOON.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE.
TRUSTEE GARCIA. YES, YOU MENTIONED THE CITIZEN VOTING AGE POPULATION INFORMATION IS NOT YET AVAILABLE, WHEN WILL THAT WE HAVE A TIMELINE FOR THAT? LET ME, I THINK, EDWIN OR EVAN, FROM OUR DEMOGRAPHERS OFFICES HERE, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IF HE HAS A TIMELINE FOR THAT.
YES, WE ANTICIPATE ON GETTING THAT CVAP DATA ON MONDAY, THIS UPCOMING MONDAY, AND IN REGARDS TO THE OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT A TOOL, I ALSO HAVE BEEN TOOLING AROUND WITH SOME OF THE [INAUDIBLE] TOOLS, WHICH IS EXACTLY KIND OF THAT SOFTWARE THAT THE DISTRICT HAS SET UP. AND WITHIN THAT, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS TO ALLOWING ALL OF ALL OF Y'ALL AND MEMBERS TO SUBMIT PLANS AND INPUT SOME OF THE CENSUS DATA THAT Y'ALL RIGHTFULLY SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO.
SO HOPEFULLY, WE CAN GET THAT DATA TO YOU VERY SOON.
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THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. PRESIDENT MACKEY, THANK YOU.I DON'T SEE ANOTHER HANDS UP THERE.
TRUSTEE MACKEY? TRUSTEE JOHNSON, GO AHEAD.
YES, THANK YOU. I DO CONCUR WITH TRUSTEE MARSHALL AND TRUSTEE FOREMAN.
I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET A MEETING SINCE PETER WALKED THE WATERS CONCERNING THIS SITUATION BECAUSE THE LAST BOARD BRIEFING, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE COULD DO SO WHEN LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULE.
I'M SORRY, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT.
IT IS IT IS FAVORABLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY, I WAS ABLE TO GET AN EVENING MEETING IN, BUT WHEN I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF THE CABINET SCHEDULES 8 TO 12, MOST OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND TRUSTEES WORK SO THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A COMMUNITY MEETING. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY AND MORE EVENING MEETINGS SO THAT WE CAN GET OUR COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS.
LAST TIME WE MET, WHEN I ASKED HOW, WHEN AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I SAID TO TRUSTEE MACKEY, SO IT'S NOTHING NEW, WHO I'LL HAVE THEY BEEN SPEAKING WITH, ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS SAID. HAVE THEY [INAUDIBLE] SPOKEN WITH IN THEIR TRUSTEES, ONE ATTORNEY SAID NO.
THE GENTLEMAN CAME BACK AND SAID THEY HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH TRUSTEE MACKEY.
NOW WE DIDN'T DOVE INTO THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BUT I LIKE ALL THE TRUSTEES TO HAVE MORE TRANSPARENCY CONCERNING THIS PROCESS.
CERTAIN THINGS HAVE BEEN SAYING TO ME, I'LL SAY IT TO ME OFF LINE.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IT. AND SO I WANT TO GO IN PUBLIC AND SAYING, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROCESS IS FAIR AND THIS PROCESS IS VERY TRANSPARENT TO THE MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF DISTRICT FIVE.
I KNOW THIS IS A NEW PROCESS FOR ME, AS WELL AS OUR PRESIDENT AND TRUSTEE GARCIA BECAUSE WE WAS ELECTED AROUND THE SAME TIME.
BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR FAIRNESS AND I WOULD LIKE FOR A BETTER COMMUNICATION.
I FEEL RUSHED AS TRUSTEE MARSHALL AND TRUSTEE FOREMAN WAS SAYING, AND THAT'S BEEN A CONCERN SUCH SUCH A IMPORTANT YEAR FOR [INAUDIBLE] REDISTRICTING AND WE KNOW WHAT THIS IS REALLY ABOUT. WE HEARD MR. RANDALL MAKE HIS COMMENT.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE MORE TRANSPARENCY AND AN EASIER SCHEDULE.
SO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WHETHER NOT JUST IN DISTRICT FIVE, BUT ALL NINE OF OUR DISTRICTS COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS AND WE CAN EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY SO THEY'LL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT'S EXPECTED AND ALSO BE INVOLVED.
SO WHEN WILL WE WHEN WHEN WE HAVE THAT, THE MAP AND THE TOOLS THAT TRUSTEE MARSHALL IS REQUESTING? HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE? CAN WE GET A TIMELINE AND DEADLINE FOR THAT, PLEASE? I BELIEVE THAT WORKING WITH FAY, I THINK WE COULD GET YOU THAT TOOL ALSO, AS AS WELL AS THE UPDATED TABLES BY THE BY NEXT FRIDAY.
OK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I WAS CONFUSED IN OUR LAST CONVERSATION, SO I THOUGHT WE WAS ABLE TO START IMMEDIATELY AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO START, I HAD TO PUSH MY MEETING BACK. I THINK IT'S THE THIRD MEETING THAT I HAD TO PUSH BACK.
COME OUT. I KNOW I'VE SIGNED UP FOR US TO DO SO, BUT I WANT THIS TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT WITH MY COMMUNITY AND THE COMMITTEE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SEEK.
SO FOR FAIRNESS AND FOR ACCOUNTABILITY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
TRUSTEE CARREÓN. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST HAVE A ONE QUESTION, BECAUSE IT'S IT'S IN HERE.
AND IN LAST MONTH'S PRESENTATION AS WELL, BUT CAN I? YOU'LL HAVE LIKE A FIRM DATE ON WHEN WE CAN EXPECT THE INITIAL DRAFT MAPS.
YES, AS WELL AS THE UPDATED TABLES AND TOOLS, I'M EXPECTING TO GET THAT THOSE UPDATED THREE PLANS TO Y'ALL BY NEXT FRIDAY AS WELL.
OK, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER TRUSTEES ONLINE? I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, SO NUMBER ONE.
THE TOOLS I WANT TO ECHO WHAT EVERYONE HAS SAID.
WE NEED A FIRM ANSWER ON THAT ASAP AND TO MAKE IT A POINT TO HAVE THOSE BY NEXT FRIDAY, IF THEY'RE LIKE COMMUNICATION TO THE BOARD SO PEOPLE CAN GET MOVING ON THAT.
I KNOW IT WAS TALKED ABOUT LAST MONTH AND SO I THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL THAT WE GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT ASAP.
I DO ECHO TRUSTEE JOHNSON ON AS WE MOVE INTO THIS.
I DO WANT TO RESTATE WHAT WAS APPROVED IN THE PROCESS LAST MONTH THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS THAT THE CYCLE OF THIS, NOW THAT WE HAVE DATA RELEASED, IS CALLED BOARD MEETING.
TO PRESENT THE DATA, THEN TRUSTEES HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND ENGAGE COMMUNITY AROUND
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GETTING FEEDBACK ON THE DATA AND EVENTUALLY ON THE MAPS.OVER THE NEXT MONTH, THE REDISTRICTING TEAM WILL BE ABLE AND AVAILABLE TO BE AT THOSE MEETINGS. I DO THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT THAT THEY'RE ALL EVENING MEETINGS UNLESS ANOTHER TRUSTEE CAN DO IT DURING A WEEKDAY.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE IN THE EVENINGS, AND WE JUST MIGHT HAVE TO ELONGATE THE THE TIME FRAME IN WHICH WE CAN DO THAT TO ACCOMMODATE THEM ALL.
BUT TRUSTEES WOULD SCHEDULE THAT WITH THE REDISTRICTING TEAM FOR THEIR OWN DISTRICTS AND MAYBE DO JOINT ONES DURING THAT MONTH.
COLLECT A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THAT AND THEN BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT AND THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY'VE HEARD FROM THEIR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AUTHENTICALLY TO THE REDISTRICTING TEAM TO TAKE IT INTO ACCOUNT AS THE MAPS GET DEVELOPED TO TAKE THAT ALL INTO ACCOUNT, THEN THE NEXT MONTH, THE SAME CYCLE WOULD HAPPEN.
PRESENTATION ON THE UPDATED MAPS WITH ALL THE FEEDBACK, TRUSTEES GO BACK, COMMUNITY MEETINGS, COLLECT THAT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, PROVIDE IT BACK TO THE DEMOGRAPHERS, REFINE THE MAPS, REPEAT THE PROCESS AND SO THAT PROCESS WILL HAPPEN ON MONTHLY.
SO THE WIDER COMMUNITY CAN CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS AN ONGOING PROCESS AS PER THE PROCESS. IT WASN'T INTENDED TO START.
I MEAN, TRUSTEES COULD ABSOLUTELY HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND I WAS ABLE TO HOST ONE AND TRUSTEE CARREÓN WAS ABLE TO HOST ONE AS WELL.
AND ANY TRUSTEE COULD DO THAT.
BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE THE THE DATA NOW, THIS IS WHEN THE REDISTRICTING TEAM WILL FOLD INTO THOSE MEETINGS. SO THOSE ARE THE THE THINGS.
THE ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE HAPPENS IS THAT NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS DATA, TRUSTEES ARE CHARGED WITH GOING BACK HAVING THE MEETING WITH THE REDISTRICTING TEAM, GETTING COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON THIS DATA ABOUT AGAIN, WE DID SOME PRELIMINARY SURVEYS ABOUT WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT'S NOT WORKING, THAT THAT FEEDBACK FROM TRUSTEES IS UTILIZED BY THE TEAM TO COME UP WITH LIKE TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, KEEPING IN MIND OUR CRITERIA TO COME UP WITH THE DRAFT MAP OR MAPS TO BRING BACK AT THE NEXT CALLED BOARD MEETING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT FEEDBACK THAT'S COMING FROM TRUSTEES COMING FROM THEIR COMMUNITY MEETINGS IS UTILIZED IN THIS PROCESS.
AND THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH.
AND THAT IS THAT IS THE INTENTION.
THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS REALLY THAT I HAD THERE.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR A SECOND ROUND WE'LL GO TRUSTEE FLORES, FOLLOWED BY TRUSTEE FOREMAN.
OH, SO MY ONLY QUESTION IS IS WHEN WHEN ARE WE GOING TO START NOW THAT WE HAVE THE BEGINNINGS OF THE DATA? AND THANKS FOR DOING DISTRICT ONE, I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
NOW THAT WE HAVE THE BEGINNING OF THE DATA.
SO WHEN CAN I MEET WITH LAWYERS TO START TALKING ABOUT MAPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT? IS THAT ARE WE GOING TO START SCHEDULING THOSE OR WE JUST REACH OUT TO YOU GUYS? HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT? ALL TRUSTEES SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A SLATE OF POSSIBLE DATES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FROM SHANTELL.
I BELIEVE THIS WEEK YOU SHOULD CHECK YOUR INBOX IF YOU RECEIVE THAT.
IF YOU DIDN'T FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT, BUT THAT WILL BE THE ONGOING CYCLE.
AS WE HAVE THOSE DATES, IT'LL IT'LL GO FORWARD FROM THAT.
YES. JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, CLARIFICATION BECAUSE OF, I THINK, A COMMENT FROM FROM TRUSTEE JOHNSON JUST TO CLARIFY WHEN WE MARKED IN THAT SCHEDULE THAT AN ATTORNEY AND THE DEMOGRAPHERS AVAILABLE ALL DAY THAT COMPREHENDS THE EVENINGS.
AND SO WE ARE COGNIZANT THAT A LOT, YOU KNOW, OUR PEOPLE WORK DURING THE DAY.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT WE WOULD BE THERE DURING THAT ALL DAY MEANS EVENINGS AS WELL.
YEAH, BUT YOU SHOULD SCHEDULE THAT.
BOARD SERVICES WILL EMAIL THAT OUT AND TRUSTEES CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THAT SCHEDULED AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT HAPPENS IN EVERY DISTRICT AS IT MAKES SENSE.
THANK YOU, TRUSTEE FLORES, TRUSTEE FOREMAN.
SO FOR ME, WITHOUT HAVING CLARITY, IT DOES ME NO GOOD TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO HAVE TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT DOESN'T GIVE THEM A LOT OF TIME TO DIGEST THE INFORMATION AND THEN TO RESPOND TO THE INFORMATION.
NOW MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN YOU DO THE MEETINGS, ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO PRESENT THIS PRESENTATION OR ARE WE EXPECTED TO PRESENT A PRESENTATION TO THE COMMUNITY? IN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT IS THE TRUSTEES' CALL.
AND SO WE ARE HAPPY TO PRESENT AT THE COMMUNITY OR TOWN HALL MEETINGS THE TRUSTEES HOLD.
IT IS REALLY THE TRUSTEES PREFERENCE AND WE WILL WORK WITH THAT PREFERENCE.
OK. AND SO WHEN WILL WE BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY MAPS? BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE NOW ARE NUMBERS, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL BE SHARING AND YOU'LL BE SHARING THE DISPARITY BETWEEN THE DISTRICTS AND WHAT WHAT LOOKS LIKE WOULD BE A GOOD NUMBER. TAKING THE NINE DISTRICTS AND DIVIDING BY THE POPULATION.
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BUT THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER NUANCES.AND SO WHEN WILL WE BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY A MAP THAT HAS BEEN DRAWN BY THE DISTRICT OR OR OTHER TRUSTEES FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT MAP? OR THOSE MAPS TO SAY, I LIKE OPTION ONE.
I CAN DO OPTION THREE, IF YOU TWEAK THIS OVER HERE.
WHEN DOES THE COMMUNITY GET THAT OPPORTUNITY? IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON WHEN THOSE MAPS ARE MADE AVAILABLE AND ACCORDING TO THE INFORMATION THAT THAT EVAN JUST PROVIDED ON BEHALF OF THE DEMOGRAPHER GROUP, THAT WE WILL HAVE THOSE MAPS ON FRIDAY OF NEXT WEEK.
THE DISTRICT WILL RECEIVE THOSE.
AND SO IT'S ONLY THEREAFTER THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH CONSTITUENTS ON THOSE MAPS.
AT THAT POINT, IT WOULD BE AFTER THAT DATE.
BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE'S IT'S WHERE IN THE TIMELINE ARE WE AS IT RELATES TO EACH SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT? SO WE HAVE MADE PRESENTATION INFORMATION AVAILABLE FOR EACH OF THE TRUSTEES TO TAKE OUT TO FIRST EDUCATE THEIR CONSTITUENTS ON THE PROCESS.
AND THAT, I BELIEVE, HAS BEEN ALREADY MADE AVAILABLE.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SENT IT AND IT'S OUT THERE FOR USE.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT BE DONE FIRST.
THEN WE COME UP TO THE NEXT PRESENTATIONS ON THE CHANGE DATA.
OK, SO THIS IS A SHORT TIME FRAME AND I DON'T WANT TO JUST BEAT A DEAD HORSE, BUT THIS IS A SHORT TIME FRAME.
AND IF THINGS ARE NOT PUT IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE MAPS TO THE COMMUNITY FOR THEM TO WEIGH IN ON BEFORE THE BOARD IS FORCED TO TRY TO VOTE ON A MAP, I'M GOING TO BE UPSET.
TRUSTEE FOREMAN, IF I CAN, I THINK I CAN HELP ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
BEN, YOU CAN'T ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
I'M TALKING TO THESE PEOPLE RIGHT HERE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON MAPS.
WE WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE TOOLS AND THE TOOL BEING AVAILABLE, WHICH WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE SOONER.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS IS THAT THERE HAS TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING WITH THE MAP SO THE COMMUNITY WILL BE ABLE TO SHARE WHICH OPTIONS THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH. AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU'RE NOT A PART OF THIS TEAM.
THIS TEAM RIGHT HERE HAS GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE OPTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET OVER TO THEM AND THE URGENCY IN GETTING THOSE MAPS.
THANK YOU. AND I WILL JUST ADD THAT EVERY MONTH THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BOARD MEETINGS TO SCHEDULE THAT AND HAVE THE TEAM AND GO OVER THE MAPS.
PICKING OFF, PICKING UP OFF OF THOSE OFF THAT QUESTION.
WE CAN EXPECT THE THE INITIAL DRAFT MAPS NEXT FRIDAY, HOPEFULLY POTENTIALLY IS THE PLAN ALSO TO UPLOAD THOSE MAPS ONTO THE WEBSITE WITH A WITH SURVEY NUMBER TWO? OR DOES THAT COME LATER? THE SCHEDULING FOR SURVEY NUMBER TWO WAS SET TO COME OUT IN IN SEPTEMBER.
AND SO THEY WOULD ALIGN WITH THAT TO GO AHEAD AND RELEASE THOSE THAT WAS PART OF THE PLAN IS THAT GETTING FEEDBACK THROUGH SURVEY NUMBER TWO ON PROPOSED PLANS? OK, SO I WOULD BE CORRECT MY UNDERSTANDING AND AS I COMMUNICATE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY CAN EXPECT IN 10 DAYS, THE SURVEY TWO BE UP WITH DRAFT INITIAL MAPS ON THE WEBSITE THAT THEY CAN THEN COMMENT ON VIA SURVEY.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANY LAG TIME BETWEEN THE TIME THAT THEY ARE SENT TO THE DISTRICT AND GETTING THOSE MAPS UP THERE.
SO I WOULD ASK FOR INPUT FROM ADMINISTRATION FROM FAY ON WHAT THAT TIME FRAME WOULD LOOK LIKE IF THERE IS ANY LAG TIME THERE.
OK. ALL I CAN SAY AT THIS POINT, WE'LL GET THAT INFORMATION OUT AS QUICKLY AS WE GET IT AND GET THAT OUT TO THE TRUSTEES, SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH AND WE'LL BE SPEAKING WITH RAMONA AND I'VE BEEN TEXTING BACK AND FORTH JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THIS INFORMATION
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AVAILABLE. SO WE'LL TALK TO THE DEMOGRAPHER AND TO THE LAWYERS AFTER THIS ABOUT GETTING THIS INFORMATION AND GETTING IT TIMELY BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T WANT US JUST PUTTING DATES OUT HERE.I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT SYSTEM IN PLACE AND WE HAVE OUR HANDS ON IT. AND SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO WITH PURCHASING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WE NEED TO TAKE THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND SO AS SOON AS WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE WILL GET IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND THEN GET IT OUT TO THE TRUSTEES.
AND YOU WILL BE NOTIFIED OF THAT.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE CARREÓN.
WE'LL GO TO TRUSTEE, MICCCICHE, FOLLOWED BY, I THINK I SAW TRUSTEE HENRY'S HAND UP AND THEN IT WENT DOWN. I SEE IT BACK UP AGAIN.
THEY'LL GO TO TRUSTEE HENRY AND THEN TRUSTEE JOHNSON.
I MISSED THE EARLY PART OF THE PRESENTATION, SO I WILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LISTEN TO IT, AND I'M SURE THAT I'LL HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.
THERE IS A QUESTION, THOUGH, THAT I HAVE ABOUT WHAT THE CONNECTION MIGHT BE WITH WHATEVER HAPPENS AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND A LAWSUIT THAT I UNDERSTAND TWO SENATORS HAVE FILED THAT THE LEGISLATURE, THE ARGUMENT IS THAT THE LEGISLATURE CANNOT DO REDISTRICTING OTHER THAN IN A REGULAR SESSION? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MERITS OF THAT IS.
APPARENTLY, THE ARGUMENT IS THAT THAT LANGUAGE ABOUT A REGULAR SESSION IS IN THE CONSTITUTION. BUT DOES THAT LITIGATION HAVE ANY IMPACT ON OUR TIMETABLE? I'LL TAKE A STAB AT THAT.
THE SHORT, HONEST ANSWER IS WE DON'T KNOW.
WE CAN'T AFFORD NOT TO MOVE FORWARD BASED ON AN ASSUMPTION ABOUT HOW IT MIGHT IMPACT OR DELAY THINGS. SO I THINK THE SIMPLE RESPONSE IS TO SIMPLY CONTINUE TO PUSH FORWARD LIKE WE'RE DOING AND JUST ASSUME THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BOUND BY THESE DEADLINES THAT WE'VE SET FOR OURSELVES BOTH INTERNALLY.
WE'VE GOT SOME INTERNAL DEADLINES THAT ARE SORT OF, YOU KNOW, FAKE DEADLINES IN THE SENSE THAT WE CALL IT A DROP DEAD DATE.
BUT IN REALITY, WE'VE BUILT IN A LITTLE CUSHION BECAUSE REALITY HAPPENS.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO ASSUME THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE UNDER THIS TIME FRAME.
IF TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT BILL THAT'S BEEN FILED OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT MAY HAPPEN EXTERNAL TO THIS ENDS UP CHANGING THE DEADLINES HERE OR EVEN WHETHER WE EVEN END UP DOING THIS OR NOT. WE'LL YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SOUND TRITE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET THERE. BUT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION.
WE JUST HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION.
I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S THE PRUDENT WAY TO GO.
AND JUST AS I WAS REJOINING THIS MEETING, I WAS TAKING A QUICK LOOK AT THE MAPS IS AM I CORRECT THAT IT IS AT LEAST THEORETICALLY POSSIBLE TO ONLY AFFECT DISTRICTS FIVE AND SEVEN IS TO IT SEEMS LIKE THE AVERAGE WAS SOMETHING LIKE ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO. IS IT JUST AGAIN I'M NOT PROPOSING THIS.
I'M JUST ASKING IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS RIGHT THAT IF THOSE TWO ADJACENT DISTRICTS SHIFTED THE OTHER SEVEN DISTRICTS, THEORETICALLY, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF OTHER FACTORS ARE INVOLVED I GET ALL THAT.
BUT DO I UNDERSTAND AT LEAST THE MATH OF THIS THAT THOSE TWO EXTREME DISTRICTS, IF THEY SHIFTED ABOUT 20,000 IN POPULATION AND ALL OF THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, BOXES ARE CHECKED AND THE REMAINING DISTRICTS COULD STAY INTACT? TRUSTEE MICCICHE, THIS IS LAURA MCCLAIN.
I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS REALISTICALLY, THERE WILL BE AN IMPACT ON A MAJORITY OF THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS BY VIRTUE OF THE FACT OF THERE IS DISTRICTS IN BETWEEN THE TWO THAT OF THE TWO, THE LEAST BEING THE TWO BEING THE DISTRICT WITH THE LEAST POPULATION AND THE DISTRICT WITH THE MOST POPULATION.
SO MOST CERTAIN THAT DISTRICT WILL BE IMPACTED AS WELL AS LIKELY THE DISTRICTS THAT SIT ON EITHER SIDE OF THOSE TWO DISTRICTS.
SO TO SAY THAT IT WOULD ONLY IMPACT JUST THOSE TWO, I DON'T THINK THAT, PRACTICALLY
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SPEAKING, THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE ACHIEVED.AS I SAID EARLIER, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT HOW THIS IS A BIT OF A RUBIK'S CUBE AND THAT WHEN YOU WORK ON ONE SIDE, IT IMPACTS THE OTHER SIDE AS YOU MAKE THESE DECISIONS AND THESE SHIFTS. AND IT'S SIGNIFICANT TO ALSO REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POPULATIONS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CENSUS BLOCKS.
SO WHEN OUR DEMOGRAPHER RIGHT HERE IS MOVING POPULATIONS, IT IS BY CENSUS BLOCK POPULATION AND IT MATTERS WHAT THE MAKEUP OF THAT POPULATION IS.
YEAH, OK, I GET ALL THAT AND I PUT THAT INTO MY QUESTION.
YEAH, IT'D BE NICE IF WE COULD CHECK OFF THE BOXES AND STILL ACHIEVE THAT WITH THAT MINIMAL IMPACT. BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S REALISTIC.
THE OTHER THING THAT SURPRISED ME AGAIN, AND I'VE ONLY HAD A MINUTE OR TWO HERE TO LOOK AT THIS DATA, WAS THAT IT SEEMS TO BE VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE PROJECTED DATA WAS THAT WE HAD SEEN A FEW MONTHS AGO.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THESE COUNTS OR THESE I MEAN, I GUESS THE COUNTS ARE THE COUNTS. BUT WHAT I HAD SEEN FROM THE PROJECTED CENSUS DATA THAT I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRMS WHO WERE BIDDING FOR THIS WORK HAD PUT TOGETHER THAT MY DISTRICT HAD DECLINED IN POPULATION RELATIVE TO THE OTHER DISTRICTS BY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. AND I SEE HERE THAT NOW IT'S KIND OF RIGHT SMACK IN THE MIDDLE.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THERE IS THERE ANY SENSE THAT WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOLID DATA HERE? DOES IT MATTER? CERTAINLY, IT WOULD MATTER.
I'M NOT AWARE OF THE SOURCE OF INFORMATION FROM THE OTHER LAW FIRMS. I KNOW THAT OUR FIRM AS WELL AS THOMPSON HORTON, WE DID NOT PROVIDE THAT PROTECTED DATA.
SO I'M NOT CLEAR ON WHERE THE SOURCE WAS FOR THAT OTHER LAW FIRM.
THAT BEING SAID, I'VE GOT EVAN RIGHT HERE, A DEMOGRAPHER, AND I THINK HE CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION OF WHERE THEY'RE PULLING THAT SOURCE DATA AND THAT SOURCE DATA IS COMING FROM THE DATA FILES THAT ARE COMING FROM THE U.S.
OK, I'LL JUST HAVE TO GO BACK AND REPLAY THE REST OF THIS MEETING FOR I KNOW THAT OUR TRUSTEES ARE INTERESTED.
I WAS ATTENDING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND I'M GLAD TO BE ABLE TO REPORT THAT THEY APPROVED OUR ZONING FOR CAREER NORTH AND BIG THANKS TO COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS FOR CARRYING THE BALL ON THAT FOR US.
WE'LL NEED A PAUSE AS WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT IN THE ROOM AT THE MOMENT.
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL NOW BE ABLE TO RESUME AS WE HAVE A QUORUM BACK IN PERSON HERE.
WE ARE TRUSTEE HENRY, I SAW YOU PUT YOUR HAND DOWN.
IF YOU DO HAVE A QUESTION, GO AHEAD AND PUT YOUR HAND BACK UP AND WE'LL BRING YOU IN.
OTHERWISE, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD TO TRUSTEE JOHNSON.
AND I'LL BE BRIEF, EXCUSE ME, YOU GUYS MY BACKGROUND.
WITHOUT THE MAP, MY MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEDNESDAY ON SEPTEMBER 15TH.
SO I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING WE WOULD HAVE THE MAPS ON A FRIDAY, WHICH IS THE 17TH, BUT CAN WE MAKE IT FASTER THAN THAT? SO I CAN HAVE AN EFFECTIVE MEETING FOR THE 15TH? TRUSTEE JOHNSON THIS IS LAURA.
WE WILL MAKE IT AS FAST AS WE CAN IN TERMS OF GETTING THAT MAP DATA.
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WE CAN ALSO IF TO CONTINUE WITH YOUR MEETING ON THAT 15TH, WE CAN CERTAINLY ALSO ADDRESS THE PROCESS AND ADDRESS THE CHANGE DATA ANALYSIS AS WELL.SO FOR CERTAIN THOSE, SUBJECT MATTERS COULD BE COVERED AND WE'LL BE WORKING HARD IN GETTING THAT MAP INFO.
SO IS THAT A YES, THAT THERE THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY HAVE THOSE MAPS ON WEDNESDAY INSTEAD OF THE FRIDAY FOR MY MEETING OR IS THAT NO.
OUR DEMOGRAPHER IS HERE, AND I'LL LET OUR DEMOGRAPHER ADDRESS THE FEASIBILITY OF GETTING A MAP PUT TOGETHER BY WEDNESDAY OF NEXT WEEK.
YES, SIR, I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE AT LEAST ONE OR TWO GOOD PLANS PUT TOGETHER BY WEDNESDAY, BUT IN TERMS OF HAVING ALL THREE, I WOULD DEFER BACK TO THAT ORIGINAL FRIDAY OF NEXT WEEK DATE.
OKAY, YEAH, TWO WOULD BE BETTER THAN ONE.
IT WAS OUT OF TWO OUT OF THREE.
SECOND QUESTION I HAVE. HOW IS THE DEMOGRAPHER CREATING A MAP BEFORE RECEIVING PUBLIC INPUT ON WHAT OUR COMMUNITY OF INTEREST IS? SO WHEN WE CREATE THESE MAPS, WE WERE TAKING THESE INITIAL DIFFERENTIALS INTO PRIME CONSIDERATION AND THEN WE'RE GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT THE SURVEY DATA THAT WE RECEIVED.
AND WE ARE ALSO TAKING WHAT THE SURVEY RESULTS BELIEVED OF WHAT WORKED AND WHAT WORKED AND WHAT DID NOT WORK.
AND WE ARE GOING FORWARD WITH THOSE PRIME CONSIDERATIONS IN MIND IN ORDER TO MAKE THOSE MAPS. OK.
TRUSTEE MACKEY THAT'S ALL I HAVE, BUT I THINK THAT YOU GUYS ONLY HAVE FIFTY FIVE SURVEY RESPONDENTS, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
THAT'S A CONCERN. THAT'S A HUGE CONCERN.
DO WE NEED TRUSTEE MACKEY, DO WE NEED TO TALK OFFLINE ABOUT THIS OR CAN WE TALK OFFLINE ABOUT THIS. WE DEFINITELY CAN.
I WILL JUST UNDERSCORE THE FACT THAT THESE ARE THE BEGINNINGS OF THIS BASED ON THE DATA WE HAVE. EVERY MONTH THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, YOU ARE ABLE TO HOST THEM, GET FEEDBACK, PROVIDE THE FEEDBACK TO THE TEAM.
THE COMMUNITY CAN BE INVOLVED EVERY SINGLE MONTH AS THESE MAPS CONTINUE TO GET REFINED BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK FROM SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER AND THEN EVENTUALLY DECEMBER.
SO THERE IS PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY THAT THESE MAPS WILL CONTINUE TO BE REFINED.
THIS IS A STARTING POINT BASED ON THESE NUMBERS AND THE DATA HAS.
BUT THAT'S ONLY A STARTING POINT.
NOW YOU CAN CONTINUE TO GET FEEDBACK ON THESE AND PROVIDE THE FEEDBACK TO THE TEAM, WHO CAN THEN TAKE IT INTO ACCOUNT.
THANK YOU, I THINK WE SAID THAT WE WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO MEET WITH THE DEMOGRAPHERS AND EXTERNAL ATTORNEYS TWICE, CORRECT.
THAT WAS ON THE ORIGINAL PROCESS.
HOWEVER, IF THERE IS A DESIRE FOR TRUSTEES TO HAVE THAT EACH MONTH, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT MAKES SENSE.
I WAS JUST ASKING BECAUSE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT I WOULD ONLY HAVE ONE MAP ON THE 15TH WHICH WE I THINK WE NEED TWO FOR IT TO BE AN EFFECTIVE ONE MEETING.
BUT MY LAST QUESTION IS WHEN DO WE ALL? WHEN WILL THIS WHOLE PROCESS BE FINALIZED AND WHEN WILL WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE CONCERNING OUR DISTRICTING? IS THAT IN JANUARY? IS THAT IN FEBRUARY? IS THAT IN MAY? WHERE WOULD THIS? WHAT'S THE TIMELINE FOR THIS? SO WE WOULD KNOW WHAT'S MY DISTRICT AND WHAT'S NOT MY DISTRICT AT THIS POINT.
TO THE EXTENT OF KNOWING WHAT IS THE FINAL CHANGE TRUSTEE JOHNSON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW UNDER THE CURRENT TIMELINE AND PROCESS, HAS A CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF A REVISED FINAL MAP IN DECEMBER.
SO IN 2022 JANUARY OF 2022, I WOULD KNOW WHAT MY DISTRICT IS GOING FORWARD.
YES, YOU WOULD ACTUALLY KNOW A LITTLE BIT SOONER THAN THAT.
AND WHEN WILL IT BE FINAL? WHEN WOULD THAT BE IN EFFECT? IT WOULD BE IN EFFECT FOR THE MAY 2022 ELECTIONS, SO OUR GOAL IS TO GET THAT MAP APPROVED THE FINAL REVISED MAP APPROVED BY THE BOARD THROUGH RESOLUTION IN TIME FOR THE CANDIDATES TO FILE IN JANUARY, WHICH IS JANUARY 19TH.
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SO WHEN WE FILED IN JANUARY 19, WE WILL BE FILING KNOWING WHAT OUR DISTRICT, WHAT MY DISTRICT IS, MY NEW DISTRICT IS CORRECT.THANK YOU, TRUSTEE MACKEY. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE JOHNSON.
TRUSTEES ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HERE? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM 4B, THE PRESENTATION OF INITIAL SURVEY RESULTS, I BELIEVE FAY IS THAT OR WHO'S GOING TO PRESENT THAT? THE TEAM PERFECT.
MY NAME IS ASHLEY WHITE, FOR THE RECORD.
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE INITIAL SURVEY RESULTS AND THEN ONCE I FINISH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE KEY TAKEAWAYS.
SO AS WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT AT THIS POINT, THE PURPOSE OF THE INITIAL SURVEY WAS TO RECEIVE INPUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS.
SO WE'RE AT THAT BEGINNING STAGE RIGHT NOW.
THE SURVEY WINDOW WAS FROM AUGUST 12TH TO THE 31ST.
WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT THE SAMPLE SIZE WAS 55 PEOPLE.
SO FIFTY TWO OF THOSE WERE RESPONDENTS WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE DALLAS ISD DISTRICT AND THEN THREE OF THEM, TWO WERE DISTRICT EMPLOYEES AND ONE WAS JUST INTERESTED IN ATTENDING DALLAS ISD. AND SO SHE WAS FROM A NEIGHBORING SUBURB.
THE GREATEST NUMBER OF RESPONDENTS WAS FROM DISTRICT TWO.
THE LEAST AMOUNT OF RESPONDENTS WAS DISTRICT FOUR.
AS FAR AS HOW LONG THESE RESPONDENTS LIVED IN THE DISTRICT, THE MAJORITY OF THEM, SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT INDICATED THAT THEY HAD LIVED IN THEIR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS FOR GREATER THAN FIVE YEARS AND THEN FIFTY THREE PERCENT OF THOSE HAD BEEN LIVING IN THEIR DISTRICT FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS.
THEY WERE ALSO ASKED ABOUT THEIR RELATIONSHIP TO DALLAS ISD.
THE MAJORITY OF THEM INDICATED THAT THEY WERE PARENTS OR GUARDIANS OF STUDENTS IN THE DISTRICT, AND THEY WERE ALSO DALLAS ISD RESIDENTS.
THE OTHERS CONSISTED OF EITHER DALLAS ISD GRADUATES OR EMPLOYEES OF DALLAS ISD.
SO OUR NEXT QUESTION WAS REGARDING WHAT RESPONDENTS FELT WORKED WELL.
SO RESPONDENTS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE FROM A LIST OF STATEMENTS AS FAR AS WHAT THEY FELT CURRENTLY WORKED WELL IN THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT MAPS.
OVER 69 PERCENT OF THE RESPONDENTS INDICATED THAT THE CURRENT MAPS WHAT WORKED WAS AVOIDING REDUCTION OF MINORITY VOTING RIGHTS RELATIVE TO PREVIOUS DALLAS ISD PLANS, FOLLOWED BY THAT SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS OBSERVED GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES WHEN POSSIBLE.
AND JUST A NOTE ABOUT THESE NUMBERS.
THE RESPONDENTS FOR THIS QUESTION, AS WELL AS THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO FOLLOW, THEY WERE ABLE TO ANSWER MORE THAN ONE RESPONSE.
SO JUST TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
AS FAR AS WHAT RESPONDENTS FELT DID NOT WORK WELL, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE RESPONDENTS FELT THAT THE CURRENT SMD DID WORK WELL, AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT, THE TOP RESPONSES WERE OBSERVING GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES WHEN POSSIBLE, PRESERVING NEIGHBORHOODS AND AVOIDING THE REDUCTION OF MINORITY VOTING RIGHTS.
WHAT WE ASKED IS IF THE RESPONDENTS HAD SPECIFIC CHANGES TO MAKE TO DALLAS ISD'S CURRENT SMD MAP. WHAT WOULD THEY BE? AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE ASKED THE QUESTION AS TO THE REASON FOR THE CHANGE.
SO THE RESPONSES ARE LISTED OVER HERE IN THE GRAPH.
THE NUMBER ONE REASON FOR CHANGES WAS TO PRESERVE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT WAS TO PRESERVE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST.
AND SO I'M GOING TO LET LAURA SORT OF TALK ABOUT THE KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THESE RESULTS.
SO I THINK A FEW OF THE TAKEAWAYS, NOT NECESSARILY ALL OF THE TAKEAWAYS, BUT THE ONES THAT WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT I THINK WE SEE BASED AT LEAST ON THIS, GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHO RESPONDED THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT MAJORITY BELIEVE THAT THE CURRENT SMDS
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ARE WORKING, WHICH THERE COULD BE A SUGGESTION THAT WE HAVE A PLAN THAT BEGINS WITH HOPEFULLY AS LEAST POSSIBLE CHANGES AS POSSIBLE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THAT.AGAIN, WE STILL HAVE TO WORK WITHIN THE CRITERIA THAT THE LAW REQUIRES US TO WORK WITH AND ALSO RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR MINORITY MAJORITY POPULATION DISTRICTS.
I THINK SOME OF THE TOP THREE FACTORS WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT DOES OR WHAT DOESN'T WORK ARE REALLY THE SAME, AND THAT IS AVOIDING RETROGRESSION, OBSERVING GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARIES AND PRESERVING NEIGHBORHOODS WITH REGARD TO JUST A COMMENT.
WITH REGARD TO JUST THE LOW NUMBER OF PARTICIPATION IN TALKING THROUGH WITH THE GROUP, I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WE'RE AT THE EARLY STAGES OF THIS GAME.
I KNOW IT'S AN EXPEDITED TIMELINE AND WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND I THINK THAT ONCE THAT WE HAVE THE RELEASE OF INFORMATION ON THE DATA ITSELF, YOU WILL HOPEFULLY SEE MORE COMMUNITY INPUT, MORE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK NOW THAT WE HAVE THE DATA OUT THERE AND THEN EVENTUALLY AND SOON TO BE THE MAPS AND THE BASELINE MAPS FROM WHICH WE CAN START HAVING CONVERSATIONS, FROM.
ANOTHER FACTOR THAT WE PULLED FROM THE COMMENTS, AND I THINK FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT REVIEWED THE INFORMATION, YOU TOO WOULD SEE THAT IS THAT FROM THE COMMENTARY THEMSELVES ON THE SURVEY, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS APPENDIX A.
APPENDIX A. IT CONTAINS THOSE COMMENTS.
THINGS THAT JUMPED OUT, OF COURSE, WERE PRESERVING NEIGHBORHOODS.
FEEDER PATTERNS ALSO WERE MENTIONED MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE COMMENTARIES, AS WELL AS, TO A LESSER DEGREE, THE GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARIES OF THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.
SO THOSE WERE THE COMMENTS FELL IN TERMS OF THE TOP THREE.
AND THAT WRAPS UP OUR PRESENTATION ON THE SURVEY.
THANK YOU, TRUSTEES ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION POINTS HERE.
ALL RIGHT. NOT SEEING ANY HERE AND NOT SEEING ANY HANDS ONLINE.
WE APPRECIATE IT. AS AS NOTED EARLIER, THE DEMOGRAPHER AND THE TEAM WILL USE THIS INFORMATION ALONG WITH THE ACTUAL NUMBERS TO GET SOME PRELIMINARY IDEAS FOR MAPS THAT THEN TRUSTEES CAN USE AS A FOUNDATION TO GO AND SOLICIT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK OVER THE COMING MONTHS AND CONTINUE TO REFINE THE THOUGHTS BASED ON ALL THE COMMUNITY INPUT FROM THERE. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM 4 C DISCUSSION ON APPOINTMENT OF A REDISTRICTING COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS A TRUSTEE REQUEST TO PUT IT ON THIS AGENDA.
SO I WILL PAUSE RIGHT HERE AND TURN IT OVER TO TRUSTEE FOREMAN, WHO BROUGHT THIS ALONG WITH TRUSTEE JOHNSON AND TRUSTEE HENRY.
AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, I DID RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE A COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TEAM THAT WE'VE ASSEMBLED FOR REDISTRICTING.
ONE OF MY CONCERNS CONTINUE IS THAT THE TRUSTEES DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO BE HAND IN HAND WITH THE REDISTRICTING TEAM.
WITH A COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THEY CERTAINLY COULD BE OUR VOICE AT THE TABLE WHEN THEY ARE DRAWING MAPS.
WE'RE NOT IN THE ROOM, BUT WITH AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THEY COULD BE ABLE TO HELP US TO ENSURE THAT DISTRICTS LIKE MINE WHO HAS GROWN BUT STILL BEING IMPACTED BECAUSE I SAT BETWEEN DISTRICT FIVE AND DISTRICT SEVEN, DISTRICT FIVE'S THE LARGEST DISTRICT SEVEN, NOT THE SMALLEST, I THINK, BUT THE SMALLEST DISTRICT SEVEN, THE SMALLEST.
AND SO I'M HOPING THAT THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING SOMEONE AT THE TABLE ON YOUR BEHALF TO BE ABLE TO MEET WITH THEM OTHER THAN JUST THE TRUSTEES JUST WHEN THEY'RE DRAWING MAPS WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE THERE.
BUT IF YOU HAVE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THEY COULD BE PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROCESS.
I KNOW THAT, BUT THIS IS A RUSHED PROCESS AND I WISH WE HAD LEFT THAT ON THE TABLE WHEN WE TALKED THE LAST TIME.
BUT I'M ASKING THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS TRUSTEE HENRY, TRUSTEE JOHNSON AND MYSELF HAVE AGREED THAT WE DO NEED THOSE EXTRA EYES.
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THIS IS SIGNIFICANT.IT WILL AFFECT YOUR DISTRICTS FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS AND MAYBE EVEN INTO THE FUTURE.
ACCORDING TO THE WAY IT'S DRAWN.
SO I HOPE THAT THE REST OF THE TRUSTEES SEE THAT.
THANK YOU, TRUSTEE FOREMAN, FOR THAT CONTEXT.
TRUSTEES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS HERE, IF YOU'RE ONLINE, GO AHEAD AND RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING.
TRUSTEE GARCIA, FOLLOWED BY TRUSTEE HENRY, FOLLOWED BY TRUSTEE JOHNSON.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, ARE WE VOTING ON THIS TODAY? THERE IS AN ACTION ITEM SHOULD IT BE MOVED AND SECONDED, BUT THIS IS THE DISCUSSION ASPECT TO GET CLARITY, ASK ANY QUESTIONS, PROVIDE ANY INPUT.
OK, AND DO WE HAVE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD IN THE PREVIOUS AGENDA? SORT OF A DETAILED QUALIFICATIONS.
JUST WHAT ARE THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES? WHAT ARE THE TOUCH POINTS? WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS LIKE ALL THE OTHER COMMITTEES THAT WE HAVE HAVE ESSENTIALLY, I THINK, A CHARTER AND THAT'S BY DISTRICT POLICY.
DO WE HAVE SOMETHING LAID OUT LIKE THIS FOR THIS COMMITTEE? IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A CHARTER PUT TOGETHER FOR THIS COMMITTEE, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER COMMITTEE THAT WOULD SPECIFY THAT.
THIS DISCUSSION WOULD BE TO BE ABLE TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING HERE AND HAVE THIS PUBLIC CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IS SPECIFICALLY THE ROLES, RESPONSIBILITIES, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, ETC. NOW IS THE TIME FOR THAT DISCUSSION.
BUT YES, IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED, THEN THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A CHARTER THAT GETS VOTED ON TO OFFICIALLY START THIS COMMITTEE AND SPECIFY ITS DURATION, ET CETERA.
AND THE TIMELINE FOR THAT CHARTER WOULD BE BY NEXT BOARD BY THIS SEPTEMBER BOARD MEETING.
YES, THAT WOULD BE THE SOONEST IT COULD BE.
THANK YOU. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
TRUSTEE HENRY, FOLLOWED BY TRUSTEE JOHNSON.
SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS TRUSTEE FOREMAN UNDERLINED, AND REASON WHY THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR MYSELF AND THE DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT. WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT ENGAGING OUR CITIZENRY.
WE JUST HAD A PRESENTATION WHERE I THINK WE HAD 55 RESPONDENTS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IN A DISTRICT AS LARGE AS OURS IS LOWER THAN WHAT IT SHOULD BE.
SO THE IDEA OF EMPOWERING FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY, ONE TO JUST UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS IS AN IMPORTANT PROCESS FOR DISTRICT NINE BUT THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL.
AND AS WE SIT HERE AS TRUSTEES AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, A TON OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING, THE TIMELINE AND WHY WE'RE DOING THIS, WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE, WHAT THE VARIOUS THINGS TO BE THOSE FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO BE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AS WELL.
I THINK OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE ENGAGED AND AWARE OF WHAT REDISTRICTING IS.
IT'S PROBABLY, I'VE SPOKEN WITH YOU ABOUT THIS PERSONALLY PRESIDENT MACKEY, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE HAVE IN MODERN DAY POLITICS.
SEEING A LOT OF THE NEGATIVE ISSUES WE HAVE ARE RESULTS OF DISTRICTS AND HOW THEY'RE DRAWN AND HOW PEOPLE ARE DISENGAGED AS A RESULT.
SO REALLY, I THINK TRUSTEE JOHNSON HAS ALREADY SIGNALED SUPPORT AND TRUSTEE FOREMAN AS WELL. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EMPOWER FOLKS IN MY COMMUNITY TO BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS AND LEARN THROUGH THIS PROCESS SO THAT IN ANOTHER 10 YEARS, THERE'LL BE LESS EDUCATION NEEDED TO BE DONE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
IN REGARDS TO THIS, MY COMMUNITY I REPRESENT DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED AND SOPHISTICATED PROCESS.
THE MORE FOLKS THAT KNOW ABOUT IT IN DISTRICT NINE, THE BETTER THAT IS.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S AN ACTION ITEM NEXT.
IT'S A DISCUSSION POINT, BUT I'D LOVE OUR COLLEAGUES ON THE BOARD TO JUST THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHY NOT WHY WOULD WE NOT WANT TO ENGAGE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY FOLKS TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS, IF NOT FOR THE VERY REASON TO EMPOWER THEM TO UNDERSTAND REDISTRICTING AND HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT THEIR HAND AS WE CONTINUE TO THRIVE AS A COMMUNITY? SO DEFINITELY SUPPORT TRUSTEE FOREMAN TRYING TO HAVE THIS COMMITTEE.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR A DISTRICT LIKE MINE THAT HAS A HISTORY OF BEING ON THE WRONG END OF SOME THINGS TO PUT IT NICELY TO BE AWARE AND ENGAGED IN THIS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT PROCESS. AS FOLKS HAVE SAID MULTIPLE TIMES THIS MORNING AND AFTERNOON.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE PRESIDENT MACKEY. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE HENRY.
TRUSTEE JOHNSON FOLLOWED BY TRUSTEE FLORES.
TRUSTEE, GO AHEAD, TRUSTEE FLORES CAN GO BEFORE ME.
TRUSTEE MACKEY I'M GO HEAD. TRUSTEE JOHNSON WE'LL COME AROUND FOR A SECOND ROUND TWO.
OKAY. I JUST CONCUR WHAT TRUSTEE HENRY SAID.
I THINK HE SAID IT BEST JUST EMPOWERING OUR COMMUNITY.
AND ONE THING THAT I TRY TO BE BIG ON, I DO MY BEST IS EDUCATING OUR COMMUNITY AND DISTRICT FIVE AND JUST BEING TRANSPARENT.
SO I APPRECIATE THE BOARD TO HOPE THE BOARD WOULD SUPPORT THIS.
AND AGAIN, EDUCATING OUR COMMUNITY IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE NEVER BEEN THROUGH AND OPEN DISCUSSION AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AS TRUSTEE HENRY SAID TO EMPOWER OUR COMMUNITY. SO I HOPE COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT THIS EFFORT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE JOHNSON.
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TRUSTEE FLORES.SO I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS EFFORT, AND THE REASON BEING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU SET UP A COMMITTEE AND YOU'RE GOING TO ASK FOLKS TO DO SOMETHING AND WORK HARD AND VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME AND SHORTEN TIMELINE AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF THAN YOU WOULD HOPE AND EXPECT THAT IF YOU WERE ARE PART OF THAT PROCESS.
IF YOU'RE ONE OF THE VOLUNTEERS, THAT'S PART OF THAT PROCESS THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY LISTEN TO AND PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU DID AND THEN FOLLOW THAT.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT UNELECTED APPOINTED PEOPLE JUST CHOSEN AT RANDOM ARE GOING TO PROVIDE BETTER INPUT INTO THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS THAN THE ACTUAL ELECTED TRUSTEES THAT WERE ELECTED TO REPRESENT THOSE AREAS.
I MEAN, I AM NOT WILLING TO DIVEST MYSELF OF THAT POWER.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WAS ELECTED TO DO.
I'VE DONE REDISTRICTING TWICE.
THIS WILL BE MY THIRD TIME, THE LAST TWO TIMES WE DIDN'T HAVE A COMMITTEE AND REDISTRICTING WENT FORWARD AND IN AT PACE AND SUCCESSFULLY PASSED BACK IN THE DAYS WHEN WE HAD TO GET IT PRE-CLEARED BY THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WITHOUT ANY CHALLENGES OR DIFFICULTIES TWICE.
BY CONTRAST, THE CITY OF DALLAS 10 YEARS AGO HAD THIS BIG COMMITTEE, AND THEY ALL MET MANY, MANY TIMES AND DID ALL THIS REDISTRICTING AND MAPS AND ALL THIS GOOD STUFF.
AND THEN THEY DREW MAPS, AND AS SOON AS IT HIT THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY THREW IT ALL AWAY, COMPLETELY IGNORED THE WORK OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY HAD CHOSEN, THAT THEY SAID, OH, THESE ARE THE NICE VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE GOING TO HELP US THREW THE MAPS AWAY AND SAID, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT OUR WAY.
AND I DON'T SEE HOW THIS PROCESS WOULD END UP BEING.
ANY DIFFERENT? THEN, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY SPITTING IN THE FACE OF THE PEOPLE WHO DID ALL THAT WORK AND VOLUNTEERED ALL THEIR TIME, AND THEY WERE PROMPTLY IGNORED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. THAT'S WHY I THINK THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW OUR DISTRICTS.
I DON'T KNOW Y 'ALL'S DISTRICTS, BUT I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S DISTRICT TELLING ME HOW I SHOULD BE REPRESENTING MY DISTRICT AND THE AREAS AND NEIGHBORHOODS IN MY DISTRICT BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE DON'T KNOW MY DISTRICT, DON'T KNOW MY NEIGHBORHOODS, DON'T KNOW MY PRECINCTS AS THE ELECTED TRUSTEE I DO.
SO I AM NOT WILLING TO DIVEST MYSELF OF, YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT WAS GRANTED TO ME. I ALSO FIND IT REALLY INTERESTING AND JUST KIND OF CHOICE IN THAT, YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE ALL FOR LIKE NON-ELECTED PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF REMINDS ME OF HOME RULE A LITTLE BIT. OH GOD.
BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT FOLKS WANT TO DO.
THEN YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WILLING TO AND OR WANT TO, YOU KNOW, DIVEST THEMSELVES OF THAT POWER. NOW GOING TO A COUPLE OF THE POINTS WHERE I THINK I TOTALLY AGREE WITH IS THAT WE NEED TO GET OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS.
BUT FOR ME, THAT MEANS HAVING A COMMITTEE OF MY DISTRICT, FOLKS IN MY DISTRICT WHO I CAN TALK TO AND WHO I CAN GET GUIDANCE FROM AND SAY, HEY, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT VERY MUCH IN LINE.
YOU SAW THE DISTRICT, THE RESULTS FROM DISTRICT ONE, WE WANT TO KEEP NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER. WE WANT TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, FEEDER PATTERNS TOGETHER.
WHEN I GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND WE TALKED ABOUT POLITICAL DISTRICTS, NOT SCHOOL BOUNDARIES, POLITICAL DISTRICTS.
THAT'S WHAT FOLKS WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
I MEAN, WHAT WOULD BE INTERESTING FOR ME WOULD BE TO BE ABLE TO GET A MAP THAT OVERLAYS THE FEEDER PATTERNS AND THE POLITICAL DISTRICTS, BECAUSE THEN THAT WOULD HELP ME SAY, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE AND THEN TALK.
MAYBE I ONLY JOINED TWO DISTRICTS, CARREÓN AND MARSHALL, TO FIGURE OUT, HEY, ARE THERE FEEDER PATTERNS WHERE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO MAYBE MOVE SOME BOUNDARIES SO THAT THE FEEDER PATTERN LINES ALIGN A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITH THE TRUSTEE LINES? SO PEOPLE CAN SAY, HEY, IF YOU'RE IN EVERY STUDENT IN THE WQY FEEDER PATTERN KNOWS EVERY FAMILY THAT THEY'RE REPRESENTED BY TRUSTEE FLORES.
RIGHT. THAT TO ME, I THINK IT'S HELPFUL, THAT'S USEFUL, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW OUR PARENTS AND OUR STAKEHOLDERS THINK, YOU KNOW, THEN THERE ARE ALSO PRECINCTS.
I'M AGAINST SPLITTING PRECINCTS.
I JUST THINK THAT FOR VOTERS, IT'S VERY CONFUSING.
THAT IF YOU'RE IN THIS PRECINCT THAT SOMEHOW HALF OF YOU ARE IN TRUSTEE FLORES'S DISTRICT AND HALF OF YOU IN TRUSTEE MARSHALL'S DISTRICT AND YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE LINE IS? EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ALL IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT 13 AND WE'RE ALL IN, YOU KNOW, COUNTY COMMISSIONER DISTRICT THREE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW IN D TRIPLE C DISTRICT SIX, RIGHT? IT GETS WAY TOO CONFUSING.
SO THOSE WILL BE LIKE MY GUIDING LIGHTS AS A TRUSTEE WHO WANTS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REDISTRICTING THAT I WAS ELECTED TO BE PART OF.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE FLORES.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE FOR FIRST ROUND HAD YOU? GO AHEAD. TRUSTEE CARREÓN.
THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I GREATLY RESPECT THE PROPOSAL PUT TOGETHER BY MY COLLEAGUES.
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I WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT.I HAD MY FIRST COMMUNITY, DISTRICT EIGHT TOWN HALL, LAST WEEK.
I WENT TO GREAT LENGTHS TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS THAT I THINK WE HAD AGREED TO HOW COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WOULD BE INVOLVED.
THE WEBSITE, THE TOWN HALLS, THE TELE TOWN HALLS ORGANIZED MY OWN SET OF COMMUNITY LEADERS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND FEEL LIKE I GOT A GOOD BUY IN FROM THE DISTRICT EIGHT COMMUNITY AS TO HOW WE WERE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD THIS FALL.
I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A GOOD PLAN IN PLACE.
AND SO I MEAN, I SUPPORT AND ENDORSE THE PLAN THAT WE'VE SET UP LAST MONTH, AND I AM ALL FULL STEAM AHEAD MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PLAN.
I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS HERE AND THEN WE'LL BEGIN SECOND ROUND.
MY OVERALL, I THINK I MENTIONED THIS LAST TIME.
MY OVERALL FEAR AND CONCERN WITH A COMMUNITY ADVISORY PANEL MADE UP OF ONE APPOINTEE PER TRUSTEE IS THAT A, WHAT IS THE SPECIFICS THAT THIS PERSON IS GOING TO DO AND WHY IS THEIR VOICE OUTSIZED FROM EVERYBODY, EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBER IN OUR DISTRICT? I LIKE TRUSTEE CARREÓN, HAD PROBABLY ABOUT 30 PEOPLE ON MINE FROM DISTRICT SEVEN THE LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE AND PLAN ON HAVING A ROBUST COMMUNITY PANEL TO BE WITH EVERY STEP OF THE WAY THAT'S FULLY OPEN FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO COME IN AND GIVE FEEDBACK DIRECTLY TO OUR REDISTRICTING TEAM.
MY CONCERN IS IN APPOINTING A COMMITTEE THAT HAS A DIFFERENT RESPONSIBILITY TO BE ABLE MORE ACCESS DISADVANTAGES, OTHER VOICES IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S MY FEAR WITH THIS AS IT'S CURRENTLY SET UP.
SO MY SECOND THING IS I GOT SOME JUST GENERAL QUESTIONS.
I'M CURIOUS FROM EITHER TRUSTEE FOREMAN, TRUSTEE JOHNSON OR TRUSTEE HENRY.
WHAT DO YOU ENVISION IN BRINGING THIS WOULD BE THE ACTUAL ROLES THAT WOULD BE SPECIFIED FOR THIS GROUP OF APPOINTEES? THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE DURING THIS PROCESS.
TRUSTEE MACKEY, AND I DON'T WANT TO PREEMPT TRUSTEE FOREMAN, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WILL SPEAK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND I HAVE SOME COMMENTS IN SECOND ROUNDS SO CUT ME OFF IF I'M TOO MUCH INTO YOUR TIME. BUT I THINK WE'RE NINE TRUSTEES THAT REPRESENT VERY DIFFERENT SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS. WE'RE ALSO NINE INDIVIDUALS WITH VERY DIFFERENT LIFESTYLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. FOR INSTANCE, I'VE HAD TO TAKE MOST OF THIS CALL REMOTELY FOR PERSONAL, FAMILY AND WORK REASONS.
SO IT'S I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS BECAUSE I NEED HELP I NEED SOMEONE THAT CAN BE FULLY DEDICATED TO THIS AND ASK THE PERSISTENT QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ASKED OVER TIME.
BECAUSE I, AS A TRUSTEE AND A VOLUNTEER WITH A FAMILY AND A JOB CANNOT DEDICATE NON STOP TIME TO DO THAT. AND WE'VE DONE THAT WITH BOND COMMITTEES AND OTHER THINGS.
I HAVE SOMEONE THAT I TRUST AS AN EXPERT.
ALSO, I'M NOT AN EXPERT, RIGHT? SO THERE'S VALUE IN ME HAVING SOMEONE THAT'S AN EXPERT OR SOMEONE THAT'S VERY FLUID, SOMEONE THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A FORMER TRUSTEE LIKE TRUSTEE BLACKBURN TO ASK PERSISTENT QUESTIONS HAVING BEEN THROUGH THE EXPERIENCE.
TRUSTEE FLORES OFTEN TALKS ABOUT HE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS ON THE BOARD AS A TRUSTEE.
WELL, MAYBE I WANT SOMEONE WITH THAT SAME PERSPECTIVE TO BE INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS THAT ALSO HAS THE CAPACITY AND THE TIME TO DO IT.
SO I MEAN, THAT'S A SIMPLE ANSWER.
IT'S THE SAME REASON WE HAVE OTHER COMMITTEES.
WE HAVE COMMITTEES WHERE WE ASSIGN PEOPLE WITH A CERTAIN LEVEL OF SUBJECT MATTER, EXPERTISE AND EXPERIENCE TO ASK SPECIFIC DIRECTED QUESTIONS TO BENEFIT THAT TRUSTEE TO INFORM THAT TRUSTEE.
I KNOW YOU YOURSELF HAVE A TEACHERS COMMISSION WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT AND THEY HAVE A SPECIFIC SET OF SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE TO INFORM YOU.
AND I'LL SAY OTHER STUFF WHEN MY SECOND AROUND COMES AROUND, BUT IT'S REALLY SIMPLISTIC.
IT'S NOT COMPLICATED AT ALL AS TO WHY A TRUSTEE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMEONE ON A COMMITTEE LIKE THIS, AND I'LL MAKE MY OTHER POINTS LATER AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT MY COLLEAGUES FEEL.
BUT WHAT I FEEL IS A TRUSTEE IS THAT YOU'RE TAKING YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE AND YOUR OWN COMMUNITY AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND SAYING THAT IT WORKS THE SAME FOR EVERY OTHER DISTRICT AND YOU HAVE THREE TRUSTEES WHO IRONICALLY ALSO REPRESENT THE BLACKEST PARTS OF THIS TOWN, SAYING WE MIGHT NEED A DIFFERENT PATH AND WE'RE BEING TOLD, OH, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS IN MY DISTRICT, BUT YOUR DISTRICT IS NOT MY DISTRICT, AND I'VE NEVER PRESUMED THE SAME FOR YOU.
THANK YOU, TRUSTEE HENRY, I APPRECIATE THAT.
TRUSTEE FOREMAN DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, BEING COGNIZANT OF TIME, SO THE ROLES AND THEN I'LL GET BACK TO RESPONDING TO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAD BEEN SAID.
OH, SORRY, I DIDN'T NOT MEAN TO STOP THE CLOCK.
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I STILL HAVE MORE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS, SO I WAS ASKING IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ANYTHING TO TRUSTEE HENRY'S RESPONSE? NO, GO AHEAD. OK. AND THEN WHEN I GET MY TURN, I'LL ANSWER IT ALL.YEAH. SO MY NEXT QUESTION TO THE TRUSTEES WHO HAVE THE VISION FOR THIS IS LIKE AND I HEAR THAT TRUSTEE HENRY AND THAT I'M SUPER THANKFUL FOR THAT CONTEXT.
I'M WONDERING WHAT PRECLUDES THAT FROM CURRENTLY HAPPENING AGAIN.
THERE IS NO PRECLUSION FROM INVOLVING AND ENGAGING THESE PEOPLE AND HAVING THEM PRESENT AT EVERY SINGLE COMMUNITY MEETING WITH THE REDISTRICTING TEAM THAT HAPPENS IN YOUR DISTRICT AND BEING ABLE TO GET THAT FEEDBACK AND HAVE THEM SPEARHEAD THAT AND ASK THOSE QUESTIONS. AND SO I THINK SPECIFICALLY THE QUESTION THERE IS WHAT ARE WE AND IS THE VISION TO CREATE AS FAR AS A CENTRALIZED LIKE, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE FOR A CENTRALIZED DISTRICT COMMITTEE? WHAT WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITIES AT THE CENTRALIZED LEVEL? WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT MEETINGS OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE STRUCTURE OF THE CALLED BOARD MEETINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EVERY MONTH? LIKE WHAT SPECIFICALLY WOULD WE TALK ABOUT THAT IS OUTSIDE WHAT CAN ALREADY BE DONE BY ANY TRUSTEE? I'LL ANSWER THE QUESTION FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AND I HAVE OTHER STUFF TO SAY, SO I'LL DEFINITELY BE WILLING TO WAIT TILL IT'S MY TURN.
BUT THE SIMPLEST RESPONSE IS JUST BACK TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE BOND COMMITTEE.
IT'S ONE INDIVIDUAL. UNLESS THE LAW FIRMS AND SENIOR ADMINISTRATION, WHEN IT GETS 30 OR 40 PEOPLE WITH THEIR DIRECT LINE, IT'S JUST THE MORE EFFICIENT PROCESS IT'S THE SAME REASON THAT DR.
HINOJOSA HAS A CABINET OR NOT.
SO LET ME SAY IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO BOTH.
IT'S POSSIBLE TO HAVE LARGER MEETINGS IN YOUR COMMUNITY WHERE YOU HAD THE DISCUSSION THAT I THINK WE'VE ALL HAD AT THIS POINT.
BUT THERE'S ALSO BENEFIT TO SOMEONE WHO'S REALLY NARROWLY FOCUSED ON THIS AND HAS DIRECT ACCESS TO CERTAIN PEOPLE TO GET QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND INFORM THE TRUSTEE.
I DO SEE A VALUE IN THAT AND THE COUNTER TO THAT QUESTION WAS WHAT IS THE DETRIMENT OF IT? I MEAN, TO ANSWER YOUR OWN QUESTION, TRUSTEE MACKEY, WHAT'S THE DETRIMENT OF HAVING IT? WHAT'S A DETRIMENT OF ME APPOINTING OF TRUSTEE BLACKBURN ON THIS COMMITTEE AND THEN HE DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO JUST KEEP ME APPRIZED OF CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE MOVING THAT I MIGHT NOT UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN THROUGH.
YEAH. SO I'LL HAPPILY SPEAK TO THAT.
BUT MY QUESTION IS AROUND LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT STRUCTURE IS THE GOAL FOR THIS PERSON TO THEN HAVE A DIRECT LIAISON AND BE ABLE CALL THE LEGAL TEAM IS IT TO HAVE MEETINGS? SO I BELIEVE AS FAR AS IT WORKS, THE BOND COMMITTEE MEETS AT A PERIOD OF TIME.
THEY GET A PRESENTATION, THEY PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THAT PRESENTATION.
WOULD IT BE IS THAT THE DISCUSSION POINT THERE THAT YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT WAS MONTHLY OR BI MONTHLY OR WHATEVER IT HAPPENED TO BE THAT.
YEAH TRUSTEE FOREMAN, [INAUDIBLE] I'LL DEFER TO HER ON THE FREQUENCY OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT YOU KNOW, SOME FREQUENCY.
AGAIN, THE TIMELINE CHANGE WE DON'T HAVE AS A LOT OF TRUSTEES ALREADY MENTIONED, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE MAPS TO PLAN WITH OURSELVES.
SO I MEAN, IT COULD HAVE BEEN MONTHLY IF WE STARTED FOUR MONTHS AGO.
I MEAN, IF WE WAIT TILL DECEMBER, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE WEEKLY.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, AND THEN THE MORE COMPRESSED THE SCHEDULE GETS, THE MORE BURDEN THAT'S PUTTING ON THE TRUSTEES TO MAKE VERY IMPORTANT DECISIONS.
SO IT'S JUST IT'S MORE HANDS AND LESS.
ME PLUS, I KEEP USING TRUSTEE BLACKBURN HOPE HE DOESN'T MIND BUT ME PLUS TRUSTEE BLACKBURN IS BETTER TO ME THAN JUST ME, AND IT'S KIND OF THAT SIMPLE.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW IF YOU KEEP ASKING ME QUESTIONS, I DON'T KNOW HOW FREQUENT IT IS.
MAYBE ASK THE ADMINISTRATION OR THE LAWYERS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO GET A MAP THAT WE CAN PLAY WITH WHEN WILL WE GET THE DATA BASED ON THE VOTING AGE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO ALL THESE THINGS WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT IN THE HYPOTHETICAL WORLD, WHEN CAN WE ACTUALLY GET TO WORK? OK, THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL WRAP UP AND THEN WE'LL BEGIN SECOND ROUND.
I GUESS THAT'S MY STILL THE BIG HOLDUP FOR ME IS I'M ASKING MY COLLEAGUES TO PAINT A PICTURE OF WHAT THIS SPECIFICALLY AND FUNCTIONALLY LOOKS LIKE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE PROCESS WE ALREADY HAVE.
AND AGAIN, I OUTLINE MY CONCERNS AROUND THAT.
SO I'LL JUST ASK KEEP THAT IN MIND IF ANYONE IS ABLE TO ANSWER IT AS WE GO AROUND.
SO WE WILL BEGIN SECOND ROUND NOW TRUSTEES AGAIN, IF YOU ARE ONLINE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND I'LL COME TO YOU.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH TRUSTEE FOREMAN AND THEN GO FROM THERE.
SO TRUSTEE MACKEY, I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT WE DIFFERENTIATE THIS COMMITTEE FROM ANY OTHER COMMITTEES THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER BEFORE.
WE PUT TOGETHER THE PROCUREMENT COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE A COMMITTEE FOR A $3.5 BILLION DOLLAR BOND.
NONE OF THESE QUESTIONS WERE ASKED.
WHY? MY PERSONAL OPINION IS, IS THAT THERE'S BEEN THIS DECISION THAT THIS IS NOT IN THE
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BEST INTERESTS OF SOME TRUSTEES, NOT ALL TRUSTEES.THE TRUSTEES REDREW THE LINES THEY DID HORSE TRADING.
THAT'S WHAT EDWIN FLORES SAID.
THEY REDREW THE LINES BETWEEN THEMSELVES.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A HUGE SHIFT.
THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE LIKE 2010.
AND FOR ME, I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOMEONE LIKE RANDALL BRYANT, WHO HAS BEEN ON A REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE. DO YOU UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE NUANCES OF REDISTRICTING? PROBABLY NOT, BECAUSE I DON'T.
AND I'VE BEEN AROUND IT FOR A WHILE.
I'M NOT ASKING ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN I WOULD ASK FOR ANYTHING, THIS IMPORTANT.
BOUNDARIES ARE GOING TO SHIFT.
AND IN SOME CASES, SIGNIFICANTLY.
DISTRICT EIGHT YOUR BOUNDARY IS GOING TO SHIFT.
BUT DO THE PEOPLE REALLY KNOW? YOU'RE BOUNDARY IS GOING TO SHIFT SIGNIFICANTLY.
DISTRICT SEVEN YOUR BOUNDARY IS GOING TO SHIFT, AND THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT ME.
DISTRICT NINE YOUR BOUNDARY IS GOING TO SHIFT.
AND IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE PEOPLE IN SOUTH DALLAS.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A HUGE BOUNDARY SHIFT.
AND FOR ME, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMEBODY SITTING AT THE TABLE MEETING WITH THE ATTORNEYS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCE.
I HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, I HAVE ENGAGED COMMUNITY PEOPLE.
THIS IS BIGGER THAN THAT, THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGER THINGS WE'RE GOING TO DO, JUST LIKE YOU PUSH THROUGH THE BOND COMMITTEE AND SHIFTED IT SO INDIVIDUALS OUTSIDE OF YOUR DISTRICT CAN'T SERVE ON IT.
THIS IS IMPORTANT, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE IS SUCH A FEAR OF PUTTING TOGETHER A COMMITTEE THAT COULD MEET WITH THE ATTORNEYS AND HELP ENGAGE US, DOES THAT MEAN THAT I'M GIVING UP MY RESPONSIBILITY AS A TRUSTEE? I WORK HARDER THAN ANYBODY ON HERE.
WHY WOULD I GIVE UP MY RESPONSIBILITY? THAT'S LUDICROUS.
I'M NOT GIVING UP ANYTHING, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS HAVE EXTRA EYES.
TO HELP ME MAKE THE BEST DECISION.
AND TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO MY COMMUNITY AND SAY WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD TO ENSURE THAT WE STAYED INTACT.
I HAVEN'T ASKED ANYBODY, NOT ONE TIME, DON'T HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
BUT WHERE'S THE EXPERTISE WITH THESE COMMITTEES YOU SETTING UP IN THE COMMUNITY? DO THEY UNDERSTAND THE NUANCES? AND WHILE I WASN'T ON THE BOARD IN 2010, I DID PARTICIPATE.
AND I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
I KNOW THE HORSE TRADING THAT WENT ON.
YOU DRAW THIS LINE OVER HERE BECAUSE DISTRICT SIX LOST SOME SCHOOLS.
AND WE LOST WILMER HUTCHINS WITH THE HORSE TRADING.
I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
AND SO ALL I ASK IS THAT YOU GUYS CONSIDER HAVING SOMEONE TO HELP US OUT.
THE SPECIFICS IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY WOULD BE DOING IS WORKING WITH THE TRUSTEE ALONG WITH THE ATTORNEYS THAT WE'VE HIRED.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY DON'T COME TO OUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS? OF COURSE NOT.
BUT WHILE I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE NEXT RANDALL BRYANT ALREADY KNOWS. BECAUSE HE CAN SEE COMING DOWN THE PIKE.
ONE OF THE THINGS I KNOW BEST.
IF IT'S NOT IN MY LANE AND NOT MY SPEAR OF EXPERIENCE, LIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH PROCUREMENT, I STAY OUT OF IT AND TRY TO GET SOMEBODY IN THERE THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING. THIS IS NOT A DIFFICULT DECISION, BUT SOMEHOW WE'VE COMPLICATED IT.
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THANK YOU, TRUSTEE FOREMAN.WE'LL GO TO TRUSTEE HENRY, FOLLOWED BY TRUSTEE JOHNSON.
AND TRUSTEE FOREMAN ALSO TOUCHED ON A FEW OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO BRING UP.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS A DECISION, ULTIMATELY THIS BOARD OF TRUSTEES HAS TO MAKE AND VOTE ON.
SO THE IDEA OF DIVESTING MYSELF FROM THIS EQUATION TO QUOTE THE LANGUAGE USED, IT NOT ONLY IS NOT WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO, IT'S ALSO IMPOSSIBLE.
I DON'T CARE WHO I APPOINT ON ANY COMMITTEE, I HAVE TO TAKE THE VOTE.
I HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE VOTES I MADE, LIKE EVERY OTHER VOTE ON THIS BOARD.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS GOOD TO SAY DIVEST YOURSELF, BUT IT'S LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE AS A TRUSTEE, WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS.
SO I CAN'T APPOINT SOMEONE ON THIS COMMITTEE AND THEN VOTE AND THEN BLAME THAT APPOINTEE DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. I'M THE ONE THAT WOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR EVERY VOTE THAT I MAKE AT THIS TABLE, AND I'M HAPPY AND I EMBRACE THAT.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE JUST HAVE TO DO AS TRUSTEES.
WHAT I AM DESCRIBING IS WHAT I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
IT'S KIND OF A QUESTION I'D LIKE TO ASK TRUSTEE MACKEY PRESIDENT MACKEY, EXCUSE ME.
YOU KNOW, WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT A TRUSTEE TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE BEFORE MAKING A 10 YEAR DECISION? AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO. I'M TRYING TO GET SOMEONE TO HELP ME MAKE THE MOST INFORMED DECISION I CAN MAKE.
I'M TRYING TO GET A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT TO HELP ME MAKE A DECISION FOR THE DISTRICT I REPRESENT THAT I WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
IT'LL BE MY DECISION. IT WON'T BE THAT PERSON.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT, PRESIDENT MACKEY, BUT THAT'S MY KIND OF FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION IN ALL OF THIS.
I'LL PAUSE, IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER.
YEAH, I'LL HAPPILY ANSWER THAT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AND I HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'M STILL NOT CLEAR ON WHY THAT CAN'T HAPPEN NOW.
AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE PEOPLE AGAIN.
I SHOULDN'T DO THIS ALONE, AND I DON'T PLAN ON IT.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE DOES.
AND I THINK TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE PEOPLE IN THOSE MEETINGS PAYING ATTENTION TO THESE CALLED BOARD MEETINGS, PROVIDING FEEDBACK, HELPING TO GET THAT INPUT AND PROVIDE THAT INPUT IS VERY POSSIBLE.
AND AGAIN, I'M STRUGGLING ON WELL WHAT DO THEY DO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE EXISTING PROCEDURE.
PRESIDENT MACKEY YOU'RE TAKING YOUR LENS OF THE WORLD AND PLACING IT ON ME.
I THINK I'VE SAID TWICE HOW IT WOULD HELP ME, NOW WHETHER IT'D HELP YOU THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. I SAID HOW IT WOULD HELP ME PERSONALLY SO.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING I MEAN, I HEAR A LOT OF AGAIN, I FEEL WE ALL REPRESENT SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS AND SEPARATE DISTRICTS.
YOU KNOW, THOSE DISTRICTS ARE DIFFERENT AND THERE'S DIFFERENT NEEDS AND THERE'S DIFFERENT TRUSTEES WITH DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.
SO, YOU KNOW. IT WOULD NOT BE FAIR FOR ME TO TAKE MY PERSPECTIVE WITH MY DISTRICT AND PLACE IT ON ANOTHER TRUSTEE.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
I THINK THAT THE CITY IS A BIT DIFFERENT.
I THINK THE WAY THAT WORKS IS COMMISSION RECOMMENDS IT AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. I THINK IT HAS TO BE A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE, WHETHER THEY ACCEPT IT OR NOT.
I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS. BUT I KNOW AT THE END OF THE DAY IN DISD, OUR PROCESS IS WE VOTE. THE COMMISSION DOESN'T CHOOSE IT.
THE COMMISSION CAN SAY I WANT DISTRICT TO LOOK A AND I CAN SAY I DON'T CARE.
I WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE B LIKE, IT'S ALL ON THE TRUSTEE.
SO NO DIVESTING OF RESPONSIBILITY, YOU KNOW, REMOVING YOURSELF FROM THIS EQUATION.
IN A FEW MONTHS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS.
THE TRUSTEE THAT REPRESENTS DISTRICT NINE IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ME IF WE HAD A COMMITTEE WHERE I COULD APPOINT SOMEONE DEDICATED AND EXPERIENCED TO HELP INFORM ME AND INFORM THE COMMUNITY THAT I REPRESENT WHEN WE HAVE THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS ABOUT REDISTRICTING, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT MACKEY.
TRUSTEE JOHNSON. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE MACKEY.
I CONCUR WITH WHAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID, I THINK THEY'VE SAID IT BEST.
TRUSTEE HENRY SAID A LOT OF WHAT I'M SAYING AND THIS IS NOT US TRYING TO LET SOMEONE ALLOW SOMEONE TO DO OUR JOB.
I DON'T KNOW, TRUSTEE FOREMAN SAID SHE'S ONE OF THE HARDEST WORKING, THE HARDEST WORKING TRUSTEE. I DISAGREE WITH THAT.
I THINK I'M ONE OF THE HARDEST WORKING TRUSTEE.
I THINK ALL OUR TRUSTEES WORK HARD AND THAT'S NO PUN INTENDED ON HER.
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SHE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO FEEL THAT WAY.I FEEL THAT WAY. BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT TRUSTEE FOREMAN IS SAYING.
I AGREE WITH TRUSTEE HENRY IS SAYING THIS IS GOING TO HELP US.
I WANT SOMEONE EXPERIENCED TO BE AT THIS TABLE WHEN WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING.
EXCUSE ME, WHEN WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I'M GOING TO NEED HELP. AND THAT'S ONE THING I'M NOT ASHAMED TO SAY.
WHEN THERE'S TIME WHERE I NEED HELP, I JUST CALL FOR HELP AND NOT SIT HERE AND BE IN A SITUATION WHERE I CAN GET HELP AND THEN DON'T SAY ANYTHING JUST BECAUSE I'M TRUSTEE.
THE WAY YOU FEEL IN YOUR DISTRICT, TRUSTEE MACKEY AND WHAT YOU FEEL IT WON'T BENEFIT YOU, AS TRUSTEE HENRY SAID.
I SEE IT FROM HIS LENS IT BENEFITS US AND VERY SELDOM DO YOU SEE ALL OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN TRUSTEES ON THE SAME PAGE.
AND SO THE FACT THAT YOU SEE THIS SHOULD SPEAK VOLUMES NOT JUST TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT SPEAK VOLUMES TO OUR BOARD.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M ASKING THE BOARD TO SUPPORT.
THIS IS NOT GIVING OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO OUR MEMBERS AND NOT DO OUR JOB AS ELECTED OFFICIALS. I DIDN'T GET MY JOB WHEN I DID THE BOND COMMITTEE WITH MY RACIAL EQUITY APPOINTEE, THOSE OTHER COMMITTEES, WE DIDN'T GIVE AWAY OUR JOB, BUT WE GOT THEM FOR HELP.
AND IT'S BEEN A GREAT HELP IN DISTRICT FIVE.
SO I WOULD WANT OUR COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT IT AND IT CREATES ACCOUNTABILITY AND CREATES INVOLVEMENT. I SEE IT ALL THE TIME, INVOLVEMENT BRINGS INVESTMENT.
WE WANT COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
THIS IS WHAT IT DOES. IT GIVES US THAT.
AND SO THIS IS WHAT I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN GIVE.
AND I LISTENED TO WHAT THE ATTORNEY SAID.
AND AGAIN, ESPECIALLY WHAT YOU HAVE IN THIS MAP, LIKE ALL OF THIS, IS GOING TO BE COMPLICATED. TRUSTEE FOREMAN SAID ALREADY FEEL RUSHED.
COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE TALKING AND AND THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
ONE OF THE THINGS I DO WANT TO SAY IS AND THEN I'M DONE TALKING IN THIS ROUND.
ALL THEY HAVE TO DO TO GIVE TRUSTEES AND THE COMMUNITY THEY JUST NEED TO SIMPLY REQUEST THEIR REDISTRICTING SOFTWARE COMPANY TO SET UP AN ENTERPRISE ACCOUNT.
AND WE CAN GET THIS STUFF DONE IMMEDIATELY.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN DONE YET, BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SO WE CAN HAVE EFFECTIVE MEETINGS AND WE DO NEED A REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE SO WE CAN HAVE EFFECTIVE MEETINGS AND HAVE PEOPLE AT THE TABLE THAT ARE EXPERIENCED AND KNOWS.
I WANT A RANDALL BRYANT AT THE TABLE WITH ME.
I WANT TO A BILL [INAUDIBLE] AT THE TABLE WITH ME.
I WANT THOSE THAT'S BEEN EXPERIENCE.
I WANT A DR. LEW BLACKBURN AT THE TABLE UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO TRUSTEE HENRY IS NOT BY HIMSELF.
SO WE WANT INDIVIDUALS THAT'S BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS WAS BEFORE.
I KNOW WHEN THE ATTORNEYS CAME TO THE TABLE AND WHATEVER TRUSTEE FLORES SAID HE LOOKED OVER THERE AND SAID, HEY, IT WORKED OUT FOR YOU, DIDN'T IT? THAT'S A SCARY SITUATION.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN AFRAID OF.
SO I WOULD LIKE I WOULD LIKE MORE ACCOUNTABILITY AND MORE TRANSPARENCY AND MORE INVOLVEMENT WITH OUR COMMUNITY, AS TRUSTEE FOREMAN AND HENRY SAID BOTH.
BUT OF COURSE, IT COMES DOWN TO A VOTE AND I JUST HOPE YOU GUYS HEAR THE HEARTS OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN TRUSTEES CONCERNING THIS MATTER.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE JOHNSON.
TRUSTEE FLORES? OH, I'M GOING TO BE VERY BRIEF.
YOU KNOW WHAT, RHETORICALLY? I MEAN, WHY DID WE HIRE TWO LAW FIRMS, I MEAN, WHY ARE YOU GUYS HERE? OK, SO I'LL ASK THE QUESTION, NOT RHETORICALLY.
WHY ARE YOU GUYS HERE? WHY DID WE HIRE TWO LAW FIRMS TO HELP US WITH THIS? BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
YOU GUYS KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS THAN, YOU KNOW, I'M A PATENT ATTORNEY, SO IF YOU NEED A PATENT, YOU GUYS WOULD PROBABLY REFER SOMEBODY TO ME.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO REDISTRICTING, YOU GUYS ARE THE EXPERTS, WHICH IS WHY WE HIRED YOU GUYS. SO I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH HIRING YOU GUYS, AND I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH WORKING WITH YOU GUYS AND MAKING SURE THAT THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO BE DONE PROPERLY.
IT WAS MENTIONED THIS COMMITTEE COULD MEET WITH THE LAWYERS.
I MEAN, THEN WHO DO YOU GUYS REPRESENT? DO YOU GUYS REPRESENT US? ARE THEY YOUR CLIENT? CAN YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF PRIVILEGE WITH THEM? PROBABLY NOT. I DON'T SEE HOW THE COMMITTEE WOULD IN ANY WAY BENEFIT US.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE'D JUST BE SPENDING IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE MEETING WITH YOU GUYS, WE'D BE SPENDING TWICE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
AGAIN, I SEE NO USEFUL PURPOSE FOR IT.
YOU KNOW, BEN'S WHITE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SOURCE OF WHO IS IS PUSHING THIS.
I HEAR TRUSTEE HENRY LOUD AND CLEAR.
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I MEAN, HE'S A BUSY GUY.I'M A BUSY GUY. I HAVE MY OWN LAW PRACTICE, I HAVE MY OWN EMPLOYEES, FAMILY KID IN COLLEGE. BUT I SIGNED UP FOR THIS GIG, AND SO I'M GOING TO DO WHAT IT TAKES FOR ME TO REACH OUT TO MY COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE THAT THE DISTRICT ONE COMMUNITY AND THE VOTERS OF DISTRICT ONE AND THE KIDDOS ARE WELL REPRESENTED.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I REPRESENT A COMMUNITY.
I REPRESENT SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW.
FOSTER MOVED OUT OF MY DISTRICT AND CIGARROA WAS BUILT OUTSIDE OF MY DISTRICT WHEN IT USED TO BE WITHIN MY DISTRICT.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T HOLD IT AGAINST JOE OR JOE MAY AT THE TIME.
IT'S NOT ABOUT MY SCHOOL IS IN THIS DISTRICT.
OTHER FOLKS MAY SEE IT THAT WAY.
THAT'S FINE. I KNOW THAT MY GOOD FRIEND RON PRICE DID A LAND GRAB AND GOT BOOKER T IN HIS DISTRICT. THAT RON.
BUT ANYWAY, I JUST, THIS TRUSTEE WANTS TO BE RESPONSIBLE OF THE DECISION THAT I MAKE, AND I'LL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE FLORES.
TRUSTEE MICCICHE, TRUSTEE CARREÓN, TRUSTEE GARCIA, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HERE? OK, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS I DO BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE POSSIBLE ACTION ITEM HERE.
I DO WANT TO ASK OUR REDISTRICTING TEAM IF THEY SEE ANY NEED BASED ON ANY OF THE ITEMS, IF WE HAVE NEED FOR A CLOSED SESSION.
THANK YOU. WE WILL MOVE ON TO 5A APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF A REDISTRICTING COMMUNITY
[5. Action Items]
ADVISORY COMMITTEE.IF THERE'S A MOTION, WE'LL TAKE IT NOW.
OKAY IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY TRUSTEE FOREMAN.
SECOND. AND SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JOHNSON.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, TRUSTEES PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES VIA ROLL CALL.
WE'LL START WITH DISTRICT ONE TRUSTEE FLORES.
TRUSTEE MARSHALL IS NOT PRESENT.
TRUSTEE THREE DISTRICT THREE TRUSTEE MICCICHE.
NO. DISTRICT FIVE, TRUSTEE JOHNSON.
YES. DISTRICT SIX, TRUSTEE FOREMAN.
YES. DISTRICT SEVEN, BEN MACKEY VOTES NO.
DISTRICT EIGHT TRUSTEE CARREÓN.
NO. AND DISTRICT NINE TRUSTEE HENRY.
YES. THE MOTION FAILED FOUR VOTING YES AND FIVE VOTING NO.
I BELIEVE IT'S THREE VOTING YES AND FIVE VOTING NO AND TRUSTEE MARSHALL NOT PRESENT FOR VOTE. OK.
MARSHALL NOT PRESENT. OKAY TRUSTEES YOU HAVE JUST REJECTED THE MOTION APPROVING THE APPOINTMENT OF A REDISTRICTED COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
OK, WE'RE NOW MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX OF THIS AGENDA, WHICH IS CLOSED SESSION FOR WHICH WE HAVE NO NEED. AND SO THAT BRINGS US TO THE TIME IS NOW 4:50 P.M.
AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.