[1. Notice and Return]
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WE HAVE A QUORUM, AND THIS MEETING HAS BEEN DULY POSTED.
GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND SUPERINTENDENT.
BUDGET WORKSHOP OF THE DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
[2. Moment of Silence and Pledge of Allegiance]
OKAY. WE HAVE THE FOLLOWING TRUSTEES PRESENT, EITHER IN PERSON OR VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE.I UNDERSTAND THAT TRUSTEE JOHNSON IS OFFICIATING AT THE FUNERAL OF A FRIEND IN MICHIGAN AND COULD NOT BE HERE IN PERSON, AND HE WILL TRY TO JOIN US VIA ZOOM LATER ON IN THIS MEETING.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT PRESIDENT HENRY WILL BE JOINING US VIA ZOOM.
IS HE ON NOW? AND TRUSTEE MACKEY.
IS HE JOINING US VIA ZOOM AS WELL? OKAY. HE MAY BE JOINING US LATER ON ON ON ZOOM, WE'RE ALSO JOINED BY OUR SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS, DOCTOR STEPHANIE ELIZALDE, AND I'M DAN MICCICHE, BOARD VICE PRESIDENT AND I'M CHAIRING THIS MEETING.
IT IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE FOR A PERSON WITH INTENT TO PREVENT OR DISRUPT A LAWFUL MEETING, TO SUBSTANTIALLY OBSTRUCT OR INTERFERE WITH THE ORDINARY CONDUCT OF A MEETING BY PHYSICAL ACTION OR VERBAL UTTERANCE, AND THEREBY CURTAIL THE EXERCISE OF OTHERS.
SPEAKERS ARE CAUTIONED THAT WHAT THEY SAY COULD VIOLATE THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS UNDER THE LAWS OF DEFAMATION OR INVASION OF PRIVACY, AND IF THEY'RE UNSURE OF THE LEGAL EFFECT OF THEIR REMARKS, THEY MAY WANT TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE PRIOR TO THE UTTERANCE.
ANY PERSON WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS, DISRUPTIVE OR FAILS TO ABIDE BY THE RULES OF THIS ASSEMBLY WHILE ADDRESSING THE BOARD OR WHILE ATTENDING THIS MEETING SHALL BE ASKED TO LEAVE.
AT THIS TIME, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE ANY PUBLIC OFFICIALS WHO MAY BE IN THE AUDIENCE.
HOWEVER, I DO NOT SEE ANY PUBLIC OFFICIALS IN THE AUDIENCE.
[3. Discussion Item]
TRUSTEES, WE'RE NOW UP TO ITEM THREE OF THE AGENDA, WHICH IS DISCUSSION OF THE 24-25 BUDGET PLANNING AND UPDATE, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, SUPERINTENDENT.WE ALSO WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE EMPHASIZE THIS IS STILL THAT, IT IS A PROCESS.
THANK YOU FOR REQUESTING THIS WORKSHOP.
WE CERTAINLY ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR PUBLIC FOR BOTH INTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS LIKE OUR TEAM MEMBERS, AS WELL AS EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS, PARENTS WHO HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE SERIES OF FIVE BUDGET MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE HELD.
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INFORM WHAT WILL ULTIMATELY BECOME OUR BUDGET PROPOSAL TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND OUR DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T THANK EACH MEMBER OF OUR EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP TEAM WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR CFO.
AND OUR CFO HAS BEEN WORKING, I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF HOURS BEYOND THE DAY THAT DOCTOR ALFRED STEVENS HAS BEEN WORKING TO MAKE THIS A RECURSIVE PROCESS, ONE THAT CONTINUES TO BE REFLECTIVE AND REFINED AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS.
WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DOCTOR ALFRED STEVENS.
GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, DOCTOR ELIZALDE.
VICE PRESIDENT MICCICHE, TRUSTEES THAT ARE ALL HERE, AND TO THOSE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY.
WE WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT AS WE ARE BUILDING AND PREPARING A BUDGET, THAT IT IS REFLECTIVE OF SYSTEMS THAT WE ARE PUTTING IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROVIDING EFFECTIVE INSTRUCTION, EQUITABLE ACCESS, AND OF COURSE, WITH THE SPIRIT OF EXCELLENCE IN MIND.
FOR TONIGHT'S AGENDA, I'M GOING TO TALK THROUGH OR GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON OUR 2023-24 BUDGET, WHICH IS THE CURRENT YEAR THAT WE ARE IN, AND THEN WE'LL TRANSITION TO THE 24-25 SCHOOL YEAR, THE BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS, AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE OUT WITH NEXT STEPS.
OKAY. SO THE 23-24 BUDGET THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY IN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS.
YOU ALL KNOW WE DEVELOPED SOME ASSUMPTIONS AND WE BRING THOSE ASSUMPTIONS FORWARD.
AND THEN IN JUNE OF EVERY YEAR OR BEFORE JULY 1ST OF EVERY YEAR, I SHOULD SAY THE BOARD ADOPTS THAT BUDGET BASED ON THOSE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED TO YOU.
AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE WERE TWO AREAS OF OUR BUDGET THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY CHANGES THAT WERE MADE AFTER THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED LAST JUNE. AND THOSE TWO PRIMARY, THOSE TWO MAJOR ADJUSTMENTS OR ASSUMPTIONS, I SHOULD SAY, TO ADJUSTMENTS TO THE ASSUMPTIONS ARE AS IT RELATES TO PROPERTY TAX RELIEF.
WE KNOW THAT LEGISLATION WAS PASSED OUT OF THE SPECIAL LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT GAVE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, AND ALSO THERE WERE SOME SCHOOL SAFETY REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE REQUIRED TO IMPLEMENT.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO PROPERTY TAX RELIEF FOR A MOMENT, BECAUSE I WANT TO REMIND US THAT.
THOUGH, THERE IS PROPERTY TAX RELIEF THAT IS DIRECTLY IMPACTING OUR RECAPTURE.
SINCE THAT TIME, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE NEW ASSUMPTIONS FROM THE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF AND OUR PROJECTED RECAPTURE PAYMENT AMOUNT IS ABOUT 75 MILLION BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW TO BE TRUE TODAY.
SO AS WE PREPARE TO CLOSE OUT THE YEAR, WE STILL HAVE A FEW MORE MONTHS LEFT IN THIS SCHOOL YEAR.
THIS FISCAL YEAR WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEING PASSED DOWN.
SO THIS IS JUST A PROJECTED AMOUNT AT THIS TIME.
AND LAST SCHOOL YEAR WE LITERALLY PAID $215 MILLION, MEANING WE GAVE THAT MONEY BACK TO THE STATE.
AND AGAIN WE'RE FORECASTING ABOUT $75 MILLION FOR THIS CURRENT SCHOOL YEAR.
ALSO I'M GOING TO STEAL A NUGGET FROM YOU TRUSTEE CARREÓN.
I REMEMBER AT YOUR COMMUNITY MEETING YOU REMINDED US THAT THOUGH WE RECEIVE FUNDING FROM THE
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STATE AND YOU ALL REMEMBER, I KEPT SAYING 6160, THAT'S THE NUMBER WE NEED TO REMEMBER.BUT THAT FUNDING, OF COURSE, IS BASED ON AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE.
BUT WE STAFF BASED ON ENROLLMENT.
AND SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THAT 6160, AND WE'RE SAYING THAT OUR AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE FOR OUR STUDENTS IS SOMEWHERE IN THE IN THE 90TH PERCENTILE.
SO IN THE 90S, IF YOU LOOK AT THE 2022-23 SCHOOL YEAR, WE ENDED THE YEAR AT ABOUT A 92% AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE RATE, WHICH MEANS THAT WE GENERATED ABOUT ALMOST $5,800 OF THAT 6160.
SO WE'RE NOT GENERATING THE FULL 6160 BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A 100% ATTENDANCE RATE.
YET. WHEN WE STAFF OUR SCHOOLS, WE'RE PAYING OUR TEACHERS BASED ON THAT ENROLLMENT, NOT PAYING OUR TEACHERS BASED ON THEM COMING TO SCHOOL 90% OF THE TIME OR 92% OF THE TIME.
AND AT THAT TIME, WE WERE FORECASTING THAT WE WOULD HAVE A DEFICIT OF JUST OVER $186 MILLION.
YOU HEARD ME SAY A MOMENT AGO WITH THE LEGISLATIVE CHANGES, WITH PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, WE ARE NOW FORECASTING THAT RECAPTURE PAYMENT AT THIS TIME TO BE ABOUT $75 MILLION. SO FOR TONIGHT'S ASSUMPTION ADJUSTMENT, WE ARE SHARING THAT.
IF YOU LOOK AT JUST ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, WE KNOW THAT OUR EXPENDITURES FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET SHOULD BE ABOUT $149 MILLION LESS THAN WHAT WE FORECASTED ORIGINALLY, BECAUSE OUR RECAPTURE PAYMENT IS SLATED TO BE A LITTLE BIT LESS OR A LOT LESS.
AS WE CLOSE OUT THE YEAR, OF COURSE, THOSE NUMBERS WILL CHANGE AND WE'LL BRING MORE UPDATED INFORMATION AS WE LEARN MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW OUR EXPENDITURES WILL END AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO YOU'LL START TO HEAR, LIKE, MORE ADJUSTMENTS IN LATE JUNE.
AS WE TRANSITION AND THINK ABOUT THE 2425 SCHOOL YEAR AND THE BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS THAT IS UNDERWAY, PLEASE ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT, AGAIN, WE WANT THIS BUDGET TO BE REFLECTIVE OF HOW IT WILL IMPACT OUR STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS.
SO THE PROCESS, AS YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY BEFORE, THE BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS IS RECURSIVE.
YOU'VE HEARD DOCTOR ELIZALDE MENTIONED THE COLLABORATION THAT'S BEEN TAKING PLACE WITH OUR TEAMS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAD A SERIES OF BUDGET WORKSHOPS, COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
AND THEN AS WE HAVE DRAFTED OUR FIRST PROPOSAL TO THE BUDGET, WE'RE CONTINUING TO ANALYZE THE DATA AND MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS POSSIBLE BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE KNOW TO BE AT THIS TIME.
ONCE ALL OF OUR NECESSARY ACTIONS HAVE TAKEN PLACE.
AS A REMINDER, I JUST WANT TO GO BACK AND TALK ABOUT ENROLLMENT JUST FOR ANOTHER QUICK MOMENT.
YOU'VE HEARD US SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS AND HOW ENROLLMENT IMPACTS OUR REVENUE, AND I WANTED TO JUST BREAK THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO WE'RE FORECASTING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT JUST OVER 137,000 STUDENTS FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR AND WHEN WE ARE BUILDING A BUDGET, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR OVERALL BUDGET, THE FIRST THING WE WANT TO DO IS UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH REVENUE WE'RE GOING TO GENERATE.
AND STUDENT ENROLLMENT HELPS US TO DETERMINE THAT.
AND YOU HEARD ME SAY A MOMENT AGO THAT AT A 93% ATTENDANCE RATE, 93%, ABOUT 93% OF THAT 6160 IS ABOUT $5,800.
SO WE'RE ALREADY STARTING OUT WITH A DEFICIT AND I'M CALLING IT A DEFICIT.
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WE'RE LOSING ABOUT $60 MILLION.IF YOU JUST THINK ABOUT 137,529 KIDS TIMES 6160 AT A 100% ATTENDANCE RATE.
WELL WE KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE A 100% ATTENDANCE RATE.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, 137,529 KIDS TIMES 5800, THE DELTA BETWEEN THOSE TWO TOTALS IS ABOUT $60 MILLION.
SO AGAIN, WE LOOK AT OUR PROJECTED CAMPUS ENROLLMENT.
AND THEN WE APPLY OUR STAFFING GUIDELINES TO HELP US GENERATE, AT A BASELINE, THE MINIMUM STAFFING ALLOCATIONS THAT NEED TO BE PROVIDED TO EACH CAMPUS. AND AGAIN, THAT'S LOOKING AT IT FROM A SAMENESS PERSPECTIVE AND AN EQUAL PERSPECTIVE.
BUT THEN WE GO A STEP FURTHER FROM LOOKING AT THINGS AS BEING EQUAL.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT CAMPUS A AND CAMPUS B, BOTH CAMPUSES HAVE NEARLY THE SAME PROJECTED STUDENT ENROLLMENT, CAMPUS A HAVING 624 STUDENTS, CAMPUS B HAVING 625 STUDENTS.
IF WE APPLY OUR STAFFING GUIDELINES, THE GUIDELINES HAVE PROJECTED THAT CAMPUS A SHOULD HAVE ABOUT 28 TEACHERS, ONE ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL AND TWO SCHOOL MONITORS. SIMILARLY, CAMPUS B 29 TEACHERS, ONE ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL AND TWO SCHOOL MONITORS.
BUT THEN WE GO IN AND WE LOOK AT THE PROGRAMING NEEDS OF EACH CAMPUS, AND WE USE DATA TO HELP US DETERMINE WHAT THOSE PROGRAMING NEEDS ARE AND WHAT SUPPORTS ARE NEEDED TO ENSURE THAT CAMPUS HAS WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE EFFECTIVE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE EQUITY ADDS AT CAMPUS A, YOU'LL SEE THAT THOUGH THE STUDENT ENROLLMENT IS PROJECTED TO BE 624 STUDENTS, THE NUMBER OF TEACHERS IS 30.
THE NUMBER OF ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS HAS INCREASED TO TWO.
SO YOU'LL SEE HERE THE DIFFERENCE AFTER WE TAKE ON AN EQUITY LENS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT OUR HIGH PRIORITY CAMPUSES HAVE THE SUPPORTS THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STUDENT OUTCOMES CAN IMPROVE AT EACH OF THOSE CAMPUSES AS WELL.
ONCE WE APPLY OUR STAFFING GUIDELINES AND THEN WE COME BACK AND WITH OUR EQUITY LENS AND MAKE CERTAIN THAT OUR CAMPUSES HAVE THE ADDITIONAL SUPPORTS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL YEAR.
WHAT HAVE WE DONE? IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE SHARING OUR BUDGET ASSUMPTIONS, WE STARTED WITH SHARING THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE WERE MAKING AT CENTRAL OFFICE OR IN CENTRAL OFFICE. AND THIS YEAR'S BUDGET THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING IN REFLECTS THE FACT THAT WE'VE REDUCED AT THE CENTRAL OFFICE LEVEL ALONE, JUST OVER 150 FTES.
AND AND WE ALSO MADE REDUCTIONS TO OUR DEPARTMENTAL BUDGETS, JUST LIKE THE CAMPUSES GO THROUGH A SIMILAR PROCESS OF RIGHTSIZING BASED ON THE ENROLLMENT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE CENTRAL OFFICE GOES THROUGH THAT SAME PROCESS AS WELL.
ALSO, THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET REFLECTS THAT.
WE INCREASED THE MINIMUM TEACHER SALARY TO 61,000, AND WE ALSO INCREASED THE MINIMUM WAGE TO $16 AN HOUR, AS WE'RE PLANNING FOR 24-25.
THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE A PART OF THE BUDGET AT THIS TIME INCLUDE, AGAIN, LOOKING AT CENTRAL OFFICE STAFFING AND ADJUSTING DOWNWARD, YOU'LL SEE ABOUT 74 FTES HAVE BEEN REDUCED.
THAT SAVES US ABOUT $6.5 MILLION TO DATE.
THIS BUDGET PROPOSAL ALSO INCLUDES RAISING THE MINIMUM TEACHER SALARY TO 62,000, AND ALSO AS IT RELATES TO COMPENSATION INCREASES, INCREASING THE MINIMUM WAGE TO $16.50 AN HOUR, AND THEN ALL OTHERS 2% OF THE MIDPOINT.
ADDITIONAL ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE A PART OF THIS BUDGET THAT WE ARE BUILDING FOR 24-25.
YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE A PROJECTED TAX RATE.
THE MNO TAX RATE IS DECREASING SLIGHTLY.
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5% INCREASE.WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE OVER A 99% COLLECTION RATE ON OUR TAXES.
AND OF COURSE, YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY 137 529 AS OUR PROJECTED ENROLLMENT.
SO YOU'VE ASKED US ABOUT OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND HOW WE ARE MEASURING RETURN ON INVESTMENT WITH SOME OF THE PROGRAMMATIC CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO THAT WE'VE INCLUDED IN OUR PROPOSED BUDGET.
AND THEY'VE BEEN ARRANGED IN THESE FIVE, I CALL THEM BUCKETS OF WORK AND RETURN TIER ONE INSTRUCTION AND SUPPORT, STRATEGIC STAFFING AND COMPENSATION, STUDENT SUPPORT SERVICES, CMR AND LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, AND OTHER OPERATIONAL EXPENSES.
SO WE'VE ORGANIZED THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE TO COME UP WITH OUR PROPOSAL FOR OUR BUDGET INTO THESE RETURN ON INVESTMENT BUCKETS. AND THEN AS WE THINK ABOUT OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT, HOW DID WE DETERMINE WHAT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? SO HERE AND I THINK YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT AT THE DAIS WITH YOU, IT'S THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE'VE USED TO ANSWER THESE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS AS WE WERE LOOKING AT EACH PROGRAM THAT WE'RE GOING TO TO SHARE WITH YOU HERE IN A MOMENT.
SO THIS IS THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE WE LOOKED AT.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO READ EACH OF THESE TO YOU, BUT WANT YOU ALL TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE DO HAVE A FRAMEWORK AND A WAY TO MEASURE AND ANALYZE EACH OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. AGAIN, YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THESE INITIATIVES AT A GLANCE.
AND THIS IS THE THE DOCUMENT THAT CAPTURED THE INFORMATION THAT I MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
AND YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT THERE WITH YOU.
AND THEN AS AN EXAMPLE, I THINK, DOCTOR LARRY, YOU'RE GOING TO TALK US THROUGH MENTAL HEALTH.
SO LET'S GIVE HER THIS IS A SEPARATE.
THESE ARE THE OTHER TWO THAT WE GAVE THEM A HARD COPY RIGHT.
YES. THEY DO HAVE A COPY OF 16 AND 17.
YES. SO, SO THE THE ACTUAL TABLE, THE ROI TABLE.
YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT AT YOUR DAIS THERE BECAUSE IT IS SMALL IN THE DECK.
AND SO THE REASON WE PUT THIS, DOES EVERYBODY HAVE IT? I CAN GET ONE FOR YOU.
OH, I THINK TRUSTEE FOREMAN FOUND IT.
THE REASON WE PLACED THIS IN THE DECK IS WE WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD THE PROCESS THAT WE USED.
ONE THAT THERE WAS A FRAMEWORK TO DETERMINE RETURN ON INVESTMENT BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF INITIATIVES THAT WE WERE ACTIVELY USING OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.
SO LET ME JUST CLARIFY ONE THING.
SO ON WHAT OUR TRUSTEES AND I HAVE A SLIDE 16.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE, BUT WE WANT TO AT LEAST HAVE YOU BE AWARE OF THE PROCESS WE USE.
SO WE TOOK ONE OF THESE INITIATIVES AND IN THIS CASE IT WAS MENTAL HEALTH.
AND NOW YOU CAN GO TO SLIDE 17.
AND DOCTOR LEAR IS GOING TO TALK US THROUGH.
AND I JUST WANT TO STAY AT A HIGH LEVEL AGAIN.
JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS IN HERE SO THAT YOU COULD GET A TASTE OF FLAVOR FOR WHAT THE TEAM HAS GONE THROUGH TO DETERMINE WHY WE WANT TO CONTINUE THE INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED.
AND THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE IS IN YOUR ORIGINAL DECK.
YES. THIS IS IN IN YOUR YOUR PRESENTATION DECK.
AND SO WE WANTED TO HAVE A UNIVERSAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS SUCCESS LOOK LIKE.
IF THIS PARTICULAR INITIATIVE IS SUCCESSFUL, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WE WANT TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE IMPLEMENTATION DATA STATES.
WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE OUTCOMES SHORT AND LONG TERM OUTCOMES.
WE KNOW WHEN WE'RE IMPLEMENTING AND IS GOING TO BE A NEED TO PIVOT.
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SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE ON THE FAR RIGHT WE HAVE ADDITIONAL NOTES AND CONTEXT AND NEXT STEPS THAT WE MIGHT TAKE.AND THEN ON THE BOTTOM THERE YOU SEE THERE MAY BE FOR EXAMPLE THIS ONE FOR DECEMBER 2023, WE ACTUALLY PRESENTED TO THE BOARD ABOUT OUR MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIANS AND HOW STUDENTS WERE FEELING A SENSE OF BELONGING.
SO THAT ALIGNED WITH ONE OF OUR CONSTRAINTS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE THAT IN THE BOTTOM SECTION.
SO AGAIN THIS IS JUST A SAMPLE TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH EACH INITIATIVE TO DETERMINE IF WE WANT TO PROPOSE TO YOU TO CONTINUE IT.
AND ON THE NEXT SLIDE, IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT PAGE IN YOUR DECK, YOU'LL SEE THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND HOW THEY ARE SUPPORTING ONE OF THE FIVE BUCKETS THAT WE HAVE OUTLINED IN THE DECK TONIGHT.
SO YOU'LL SEE TIER ONE INSTRUCTION.
AND THERE ARE THE SUPPORTS OR THE PROGRAM INITIATIVES THAT ARE THERE.
THE PROJECTED AMOUNTS FOR THOSE PARTICULAR PROGRAMMATIC PIECES, THE EXPECTED OUTCOMES AND THE STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS THAT THESE DIFFERENT INITIATIVES OR ACTIVITIES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH OR WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON.
AND THEN THE KEY LEADING INDICATORS FOR EACH OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS OR INITIATIVES, AND THAT IS THE SAME INFORMATION FOR EACH OF THE DIFFERENT BUCKETS THAT YOU HAVE HERE.
SO I'LL GO THROUGH THEM AS AN EXAMPLE.
I'LL GO TO STRATEGIC COMPENSATION AND RAISES.
AND SO YOU HEARD ME SAY EARLIER THAT THE BUDGET PROPOSAL INCLUDES A, AN INCREASE OF THE HOURLY WAGE TO $16.50 AN HOUR, AND THEN 2% OF THE MIDPOINT.
FOR OTHERS, THAT EQUATES TO A PROJECTED AMOUNT OF JUST OVER ABOUT $34 MILLION.
AND SO THAT IS A PART OF THE TOTAL PROPOSAL THAT WE ARE SHARING HERE TODAY.
YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE UNDER STUDENT SUPPORT SERVICES.
AND THE SAME INFORMATION IS PRESENTED FOR COLLEGE, CAREER AND MILITARY READINESS AND WHAT WE'RE FORECASTING IN THE BUDGET FOR THOSE PROGRAMS AND THEN THE OTHER LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AND OPERATIONAL EXPENSES.
SCHOOL SAFETY AGAIN, A LEGAL REQUIREMENT AND ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONAL EXPENSES.
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS THE GENERAL OPERATING BUDGET.
IT DOES NOT REFLECT ANY SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.
ALSO, KEEP IN MIND THAT WE'RE LEVERAGING MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCES TO MEET OUR NEEDS.
SO THIS IS NOT AN ALL INCLUSIVE LIST OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT ARE WE ARE SUPPORTING BECAUSE WE DO UTILIZE SPECIAL REVENUE TO SUPPORT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE IN PLACE BECAUSE THEY ARE SHOWING THAT THEY ARE IMPROVEMENT, IMPROVING OUTCOMES FOR STUDENTS. SO AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR CURRENT BUDGET AS IT RELATES TO WHERE WE ARE IN THE FIRST DRAFT OF OUR PROPOSAL, YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR PROJECTED REVENUE IS ABOUT $1.7 BILLION AND THE PROJECTED BUDGET ARE TOTAL EXPENSES IS PROJECTED TO BE ABOUT ONE JUST OVER $1.8 BILLION, WHICH REFLECTS A DEFICIT OF JUST OVER $186 MILLION.
AND PLEASE, I WANT TO ALSO JUST REMIND YOU THAT THIS SO THIS BUDGET INCLUDES THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT ARE LISTED ACROSS THE FIVE DIFFERENT BUCKETS OF WORK, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES SOME OF THOSE, ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE.
SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT UTILITY EXPENSES WHEN WE THINK ABOUT INSURANCE WHEN WE THINK ABOUT, AGAIN, IT INCLUDES RAISES, THE UNFUNDED MANDATES AS IT RELATES TO SCHOOL SAFETY.
IT'S INCLUSIVE OF ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. OKAY. AND SO AGAIN, WHEN YOU SEE THAT $186 MILLION BUDGET, THE WONDERING COULD BE, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO FILL THAT GAP? AND SO IF WE THINK ABOUT OUR FUND BALANCE AND HOW WE'VE SET ASIDE FUNDS IN OUR FUND BALANCE TO HELP US AS WE DID THIS YEAR WHEN WE HAVE A PROJECTED DEFICIT.
SO IN LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED BUDGET, AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE PROJECTED DEFICIT IS AT 186 MILLION.
AND IF WE WERE TO SPEND ALL OF THE BUDGET AT 100%, WE WOULD BE USING OUR FUND.
BALANCE WOULD GO DOWN TO ABOUT $553 MILLION.
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AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE AT LEAST 90 DAYS OF UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, AND THAT 90 DAYS WOULD BE REFLECTIVE OF ABOUT $500 MILLION. SO AGAIN, WANTED YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE PRESENT A BUDGET FOR PROPOSAL AND IT IS WHEN THE WHEN THERE IS A DEFICIT, WE HAVE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE IDENTIFIED TO FILL THAT DEFICIT.SO I'LL PAUSE RIGHT HERE AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS.
SO I'LL JUST START WITH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY NICE TO HAVE THIS EARLIER TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THIS, BUT I'LL DO MY BEST AND THEN I'LL DEAL WITH SOME OF MY NOTES.
SO WHAT IS OUR CURRENT FUND BALANCE AMOUNT? OUR CURRENT FUND BALANCE AMOUNT IS $660 MILLION.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE FUND BALANCE THAT WE HAVE ON OUR INVESTMENTS? THE 660.
SO 660 IS THE GENERAL OPERATING SIDE.
AND THEN WHEN YOU SAY INVESTMENTS, ARE YOU SPEAKING OF OUR INTEREST IN SINKING OUR DEBT SIDE? YES. OUR FUND BALANCE ON THAT SIDE IS ABOUT $20 MILLION.
OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS A LOT MORE THAN THAT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A LOT MORE THAN THAT.
OKAY. AND I'M GOING TO START WITH THE CURRENT BUDGET, NOT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
OKAY. THE I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT. WE HAD.
GO TO SLIDE FIVE PLEASE 224 MILLION.
EXCUSE ME. WE WERE ONLY GOING TO PAY 75 MILLION.
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT WHEN I LOOK AT SLIDE, I'M ON SLIDE SIX.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE THE DEFICIT SURPLUS YOU'VE YOU'VE INCORPORATED THAT.
AND THAT'S HOW YOU COME UP WITH THE 37 MILLION.
BUT WE STILL HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS BEYOND WHAT IS REQUIRED IN THE FUND BALANCE.
CORRECT. WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
THE WHAT IS REQUIRED? I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE AREAS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON FOR THE NEXT BUDGETS.
I'M GOING ON TO THE NEXT BUDGET.
OKAY? I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE AREAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON.
SO CAN YOU JUST KIND OF WALK ME THROUGH THAT AGAIN, BECAUSE YOU TALKED A LOT ABOUT STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS AND THE PROCESS, BUT THE AREAS THAT WE'LL BE FOCUSING ON, WE USED TO HAVE FIVE AREAS THAT WE FOCUSED ON.
I'M TRYING TO AT MOST OF YOUR ALL'S REQUEST, REALLY FOCUSING ON HOW DO WE MAKE THAT TO BE BAKED INTO OUR BUDGET REGULARLY. AND SO RATHER THAN SAYING THOSE STRATEGIC INITIATIVES THAT WE USED TO HAVE SEPARATE, WE'RE MAKING SURE THOSE DOLLARS ARE ACTUALLY BEING PLACED BACK ON CAMPUSES.
SO THE ONE EXAMPLE RIGHT NOW, TRUSTEE FOREMAN THAT COMES TO MY MIND WOULD BE EARLY LEARNING SPECIALISTS THAT USED TO BE REPORTED AND SERVED FROM A CENTRAL CAPACITY.
THOSE UNDER OUR EQUITY LENS NOW ARE ACTUALLY AT CAMPUSES.
SO THOSE DOLLARS ARE NOW INCORPORATED INTO CAMPUS BUDGETS.
SO THESE ARE JUST THE WAY WE THE WAY I WOULD THINK ABOUT THIS IS THIS INCLUDES SOME ACTIVITIES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING USING ESSER DOLLARS AS AN EXAMPLE.
AND NOW WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DOLLARS TO JUST KEEP DOING ALL OF THEM, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE EVEN ABOVE THE 186 MILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT THAT WE'RE PRESENTING RIGHT NOW ON THE FIRST DRAFT.
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SOME OF THAT I UNDERSTAND, AND SOME OF IT I DON'T QUITE QUITE UNDERSTAND.WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE STAFFING GUIDELINES.
YES, MA'AM. AND HISTORICALLY, WE'VE BEEN AROUND 92, 93%.
IS THAT CORRECT? AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE.
YES, MA'AM. SO WHY ARE WE BUDGETING BASED ON 100%? BECAUSE OUR EXPENSES ARE BASED ON 100%.
SO A TEACHER HAS 26 KIDS, SIX SECTIONS A DAY OR SIX OVER TWO DAYS.
LET'S SAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HIGH SCHOOL AND THEY HAVE 92% ATTENDANCE.
I DON'T GET TO PAY HIM OR HER 92% OF THEIR SALARY.
SO IF I STAFF AT 92%, I WOULD THEN HAVE TO MAKE FURTHER REDUCTIONS ON THE EXISTING BUDGET.
SO IF EXCUSE ME, IF WE ARE ONLY RECEIVING X NUMBER OF DOLLARS AND WE GO BACK IN AND WE ACTUALLY CUT STAFF.
WE JUST GO BACK IN AND CUT STAFF, WHICH WE'VE DONE.
WE'VE CUT BASED ON ENROLLMENT, NOT ATTENDANCE.
BUT WE DON'T USE ATTENDANCE BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN EVEN A FURTHER REDUCTION.
SO ALL WE DID WAS IF THE CAMPUS USED TO BE AT 100, IF THE PROJECTION WAS THEY'RE GOING TO GO FROM 300 STUDENTS OR THEY USED TO BE AT 400 STUDENTS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE AT 375. THEN WE ONLY MADE ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON 375.
WE DIDN'T MAKE ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON 92% OF 375.
SO OUR AVERAGE CLASS SIZES ARE STILL WELL BELOW THE 22 TO 1.
BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY SMALL CAMPUSES WITH A LOT OF SPECIAL NEEDS.
SO YOU HAVE BILINGUAL, YOU HAVE ESL, YOU HAVE GEN ED.
SO THE MORE SPECIFICITY ON THE TEACHING LEVEL AND THEN THE GRADE LEVEL CREATES SOME CLASSROOMS WHERE THERE MAY BE 16 STUDENTS AND ANOTHER CLASSROOM THAT IS AT 24.
BECAUSE IF WE ADDED ANOTHER TEACHER TO THE 24.
THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO ADD MORE TO OUR BUDGET, AND IT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR THE FACT THAT OVER 85% LARGER THAN 85%, IT'S ACTUALLY MORE THAN 90% OF OUR CLASSROOMS ARE ACTUALLY FAR BELOW 22 AT OUR ELEMENTARY CAMPUSES.
AND SO WE DID DO THAT ANALYSIS, AND I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THAT'S A GREAT REQUEST.
COULD YOU GIVE ME THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S STILL A LITTLE BIT FOR ME A LITTLE BIT CONFLICTING.
SO AND I IF WE HAVE HIGH SECONDARY AND ELEMENTARY, IT WOULD BE BE GOOD FOR ME.
SO WHEN WE ARE STAFFING AND I'M ON 11.
SO WHEN WE'RE WE ARE STAFFING AND WE'RE USING THE MODEL YOU JUST SPOKE ABOUT.
WHAT ABOUT OUR CAMPUSES THAT HAVE SPECIFIC PROGRAMS MONTESSORI, IB HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT PARTICULAR STAFFING QUESTION? SO NONE OF OUR MAGNETS OR CHOICE CAMPUSES HAVE A DIFFERENT GUIDELINE.
THEY STILL USE JUST THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS.
AND THEY WOULD IN MOST INSTANCES, THEIR DATA WOULD NOT ALIGN ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE WITH 11.
THOSE WOULD ONLY END UP WITH SLIDE TEN.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE THEY WOULD NOT HAVE AS IN THIS THIS IS A REAL EXAMPLE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT CAMPUS NAMES AND AND SO HERE WE HAVE TWO CAMPUSES. ONE CLEARLY HAS A NEED.
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AND SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO RETAIN ADDITIONAL STAFFING.BUT I CANNOT RIGHT NOW THINK OF AN EXAMPLE WHERE WE HAVE ADDED AN ALLOCATION.
FOR A MAGNET OR A SPECIALIZED SCHOOL.
BUT THERE ARE SOME REQUIREMENTS SPECIFICALLY FOR IB CAMPUSES.
THOSE ARE JUST IN CERTIFICATIONS, NOT IN THE NUMBER.
THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR A NUMBER OF STUDENTS PER TEACHER.
AND COULD YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU'RE BECAUSE..
I'D RATHER NOT CALL THE SCHOOL NAME, BUT I'LL GET NO BUT A POSITION.
I MEAN, IS THERE. YEAH, POSITIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY IB ON A SPECIFIC CAMPUS.
I'LL CERTAINLY MAKE A NOTE OF THAT AND WE CAN GET BACK TO YOU.
WOULD YOU PLEASE. I WOULD LIKE THAT.
ANYONE ELSE? TRUSTEE MACKEY. THANK YOU.
SO THIS IS SUPER COMPREHENSIVE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE TIME THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS.
FIRST, I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF GO THROUGH I TOOK A BUNCH OF NOTES.
I FEEL LIKE TRUSTEE FOREMAN UP HERE TAKING A BUNCH OF NOTES ON MY PAPER.
FIRST OF ALL, I NOTICE ON SLIDE FIVE THE ATTENDANCE RATE, THE 93.9 TO THE 92.4.
AND SO WHILE CURRENTLY WE'RE SITTING AT ABOUT 93.9, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO STAY THERE.
I GET THAT WAS MY QUESTION. SO THIS IS WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS, NOT WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING IT TO BE.
WE ARE SEEING A REBOUND FROM, FROM DURING THE PANDEMIC.
RIGHT. BECAUSE WE SAW THAT ALL TIME LOW OF ATTENDANCE OF 91% IN 2122.
SO THERE IS IMPROVEMENT AND IT IS GROWTH.
YEAH. IF WE CAN GO TO SLIDE SIX.
I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED ON THIS.
SO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, IS THAT WHAT YEAR THIS IS? THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.
THAT WAS THAT IS THE BUDGET THAT WAS ADOPTED IN JUNE TO START THE SCHOOL YEAR.
SO WE ADOPTED THE $186 MILLION DEFICIT.
YES, SIR. AND IT'S LOOKING LIKE MAINLY DUE TO RECAPTURE.
BEING WAY LOWER THAN ANTICIPATED.
YES, IF YOU SUBTRACT OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT, WHETHER YOU SUBTRACT OUT THE MONEY FROM THE EXPENDITURES, WHICH IS WHAT OUR CFO DID HERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, OR IF YOU ADDED THE MONEY BACK INTO THE DEFICIT, RIGHT, YOU END UP WITH ABOUT A $37 MILLION DEFICIT FOR US FOR THIS SCHOOL YEAR.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS WE BRING SOME DEFICIT FOR THE 2425 SCHOOL YEAR, WE WOULD WANT TO BE ABLE TO KNOW, WELL HOW MUCH IS IN THAT FUND BALANCE MINUS THIS AMOUNT, MINUS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
WE NEED TO COMBINE BOTH OF THOSE DEFICITS.
AND SO I REALLY WANTED DOCTOR ALFRED STEVENS TO HIGHLIGHT.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO EXPLAIN HOW DID WE GO FROM WE WERE PROJECTING 186 MILLION.
AFTER THE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, WE ARE NOW ESTIMATING THAT 224 TO BE MORE LIKE 75.
SO BUT THAT WAS THE DEFICIT BUDGET WE ADOPTED.
SO WE WON'T HAVE THAT SAME SURPRISE, POSITIVE SURPRISE.
WELL, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S NOT IT'S A NON LEGISLATIVE YEAR.
YES. SO YES. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO MISS ON THAT.
AND I'LL COUCH THE REST OF MY QUESTIONS I HAVE TWO THOUGHTS SIDE BY SIDE.
NUMBER ONE I THINK OUR FUND BALANCE IS FAR TOO LARGE.
SO SET THAT ASIDE LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS AND I'LL COUCH THE REST OF MY QUESTIONS IN IT.
I'M ALSO KIND OF SHOCKED THAT WE'VE GOT WE ADOPTED A PRETTY BIG DEFICIT LAST YEAR WITH ESSER, AND WE'RE PROPOSING IT LOOKS LIKE A BIGGER DEFICIT THIS YEAR WITHOUT GETTING THE THE BENEFIT OF THE RECAPTURE.
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AND SO TO ME, LIKE, I DON'T HAVE THE CONCERN ABOUT SPENDING INTO DEFICIT BECAUSE WE'RE STILL PROJECTED TO STAY FAR ABOVE THE 500 MILLION.AND THAT JUST SETS US UP FOR A MASSIVE CLIFF NEXT YEAR, DOES IT NOT? AND WOULD IT BE MORE PRUDENT TO THINK ABOUT SOME OF THESE IN TERMS OF NON PAYROLL, ETC..
YEAH. SO LET ME JUST SAY THIS.
SO NUMBER ONE BUT LAST YEAR WE DIDN'T MOVE ALL OUR DOLLARS INTO GENERAL OPERATING OUT OF ESSER.
SO WE'RE MOVING A LARGE EXPENDITURE OF ITEMS THAT WERE CURRENTLY FOR THIS SCHOOL YEAR COMING OUT OF THE THE LAST OF ESSER. SO I'VE GOT TO MOVE SOMEWHERE IN THE 55 MILLION.
AND THAT'S NOT CONTINUING ALL OF THE ESSER PROGRAMING THAT WE HAVE.
WE KNOW WE CAN'T SUSTAIN THE TOTAL AMOUNT.
SO LET'S GO TO BACK TO MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELORS FOR A MOMENT, BECAUSE THAT ONE SHOWED US NOT ONLY THAT OUR STUDENTS NEED IT, BUT THAT WE ALSO THE DATA ARE SHOWING WE NEED TO CONTINUE IT. AND ALSO, IN FACT, IN THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSED BUDGET, WE'RE ADDING WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADD FOUR ADDITIONAL MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIANS TO SERVE SPECIFICALLY AS A CRISIS TEAM.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ALL THOSE, IF WE CAN GO MAYBE JUST TO A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF THE BIG BUCKETS WELL, I'M SORRY TO TAKE UP YOUR TIME ON THAT. SO THAT MAKES SENSE.
I'LL COME TO THIS IN A SECOND, BUT THAT'S HELPFUL.
SO LAST YEAR WE ADOPTED 186,000,000 IN GENERAL FUND DEFICIT.
PLUS WE HAD $55 MILLION OF EXPENSES ON ESSER.
THEN THIS YEAR WE'RE PROPOSING 186.
BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'VE CUT IS 55 MILLION THAT OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE BEEN ON ESSER.
SO WE BROUGHT BACK ALL THESE EXPENSES.
YES. LAST YEAR TO 186 IS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
IS THAT AN ACCURATE WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT? FAIRLY ACCURATE.
I JUST WANT TO REEMPHASIZE THAT SOME OF THESE ARE ALSO ADDITIONS.
THEY'RE NOT JUST A MOVEMENT, BUT IT'S ADDITIONAL LIKE COMPENSATE MORE AND THEN PUT MORE.
AND THEN I PUT MORE LIKE COMPENSATION.
THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL 34 MILLION.
SO ADD THAT BACK IN BECAUSE THAT'S RECURRING IF I'M GOING TO.
SO NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE TO COVER THE 30 WHEN ACTUALLY LAST YEAR I THINK IT WAS 40 MILLION.
NOW THIS YEAR I HAVE TO COVER THE 40 MILLION FOR THE 2425 PLUS.
SO THAT ACTUALLY JUST DIDN'T JUST KEEP THE I DIDN'T CORRECT.
WE REDUCED YOU REDUCED EXPENSES AS A TOTAL OF 55 MILLION.
AND EVEN WITHIN THAT DONE FURTHER CUTS OR ADDITIONS BASED ON NEED AND WHAT YOU'VE SEEN.
SO SLIDE 11 AND 12 AND 13 THESE AREAS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU SEPARATED THIS OUT.
TALKING ABOUT HERE'S LIKE SLIDE TEN BEING HERE'S THE SAMENESS.
WE GOT TO START WITH STAFFING RATIOS.
AND THEN LAYERED ON TOP OF THAT, THE EQUITY MINDSET APPROACH ABOUT WHERE DO MY KIDS NEED THIS? AND HOW DO WE MOVE MONEY AROUND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GIVING AND BRINGING, GIVING THE STUDENTS WHO NEED IT MOST, THE RESOURCES THEY NEED? SO I THINK THAT IS A VERY CLEAR WAY THAT YOU'VE PUT THIS OUT HERE.
MY QUESTION ON THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT.
HOW DID YOU ALL FACTOR IN DISCIPLINE AND COMMUNITY RESOURCE INDEX INTO THIS.
SO, CHIEF POWELL, YOU WANT TO COME UP BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY TIFFANY'S.
GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, FOR DISCIPLINE.
I'LL SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, LIKE, THEIR GRADES OF THOSE DISCIPLINES.
SO EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, TALKING BACK IN CLASS TO, YOU KNOW, BRINGING A GUN TO SCHOOL.
AND HOW MANY OF THOSE STAFF MEMBERS THAT THEY HAD FILLED WHETHER IT WAS AN AP OR MONITORS.
SO BASICALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DETERMINED, IF YOU HAD ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUALS AT YOUR CAMPUS SUPPORTING YOU WITH DISCIPLINE AND YOU CONTINUE TO HAVE DISCIPLINE RATES HIGHER THAN IN AN INTENSE DISCIPLINE, RATES HIGHER THAN TYPICAL SCHOOLS, THEN WHAT?
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YOU PROBABLY NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPORT.SO THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS WE LOOKED AT IT.
HOW ARE WE CONTROLLING FOR DIFFERENCES IN HOW ADULTS RESPOND IN THAT? HOW ARE YOU ALL CONTROLLING FOR THE FACT THAT, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN PRINCIPALS.
I KNOW THAT SOME JUST DON'T PUT REFERRALS IN, OTHERS JUST PUT REFERRALS IN FOR EVERYTHING.
SO HOW ARE WE CONTROLLING TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT JUST AN ADULT DECISION ON? I'M JUST GOING TO BE PUNITIVE AND SEND A BUNCH OF REFERRALS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I DO THIS VERSUS REALLY TRYING TO GET TO THE RESTORATIVE PRACTICES.
SURE, DEFINITELY. AND THAT'S WHY WE CONSIDERED THE INTENSITY OF THE REFERRALS AS WELL.
AND SO IT WASN'T JUST SORT OF THE LEVEL ONE SORT OF DISCRETIONARY REFERRALS THAT WE CONSIDERED.
WE CONSIDERED THOSE REFERRALS THAT WERE NON-DISCRETIONARY THINGS THAT WOULD REQUIRE A DEEP PLACEMENT, LIKE, AGAIN, LIKE A GUN AT THE CAMPUS OR SOME SORT OF MISCONDUCT OR ASSAULT ON ANOTHER STUDENT.
I'LL COME BACK AROUND SECOND ROUND.
LOTS OF PAPERS HERE. GIVE ME ONE SECOND.
KIND OF GOING BACK TO THE, I THINK THE OTHER TRUSTEE'S QUESTION, JUST TO CLARIFY.
SO YOUR THE REVENUES ARE STILL AT 100%, EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE AT ABOUT 93%.
CORRECT. WE HAVE NOT MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR REVENUE AT THIS TIME.
SO FOR TONIGHT'S CONVERSATION WE JUST FOCUSED ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE AND RECAPTURE SPECIFICALLY.
RIGHT. SO SO SO THAT WILL BE ADJUSTED DOWNWARD.
AND THEN THERE'LL BE OTHER STUFF IN THE MIDDLE THAT HAPPENS THAT MAKES IT YOU GET TO SOME NUMBER.
AND WE DON'T QUITE YET KNOW THAT NUMBER.
THAT IS CORRECT. WHICH WILL THEN IMPACT YOUR NEXT YEAR'S OUT.
SO I WONDER IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET A WALK FORWARD, NOT TONIGHT, BUT TO HAVE A WALK FORWARD JUST SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF SEE THAT PROGRESSION OF IMPACT FROM WHERE IT STARTED TO WHERE IT WILL END UP FOR THE FOR CLOSING OUT THIS CURRENT SCHOOL YEAR.
JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE OKAY.
AND THEN I CAN SEE THERE AND I CAN'T SEE THERE LOOKING OUT TO IN THREE YEARS I THINK THIS KIND OF IS RESONANT WITH TRUSTEE MACKEY'S QUESTION IS THERE IS THERE AN IDEA OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE TWO AND THREE YEARS OUT? HOW DO WE KNOW? AND ALWAYS KNOWING THAT IT WILL BE ADJUSTED BECAUSE WE CAN'T KNOW, BECAUSE WE DON'T, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS WORK AND SO FORTH.
BUT HOW WILL HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT THAT AS TRUSTEES? HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE? SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT OUR IN YOUR BUDGET, NOT IN YOUR BUDGET, IN THE INFORMATION THAT WE PROVIDE ON A MONTHLY BASIS, THERE IS A FORECAST THAT'S PRESENTED THAT SHOWS YOU IN FUTURE YEARS WHAT OUR PROJECTED REVENUE IS GOING TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, STUDENT ENROLLMENT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, FUND BALANCE.
SO WHEN WHEN I SAY WE'RE NOT BUDGETING BASED ON A SINGLE YEAR, WE'RE ACTUALLY FORECASTING OUT.
BUT THE DISCUSSION IS AROUND THIS ONE YEAR.
SO AND THAT WILL THIS WILL FLOW THROUGH THAT.
ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE EXACTLY WE HAVE TO FORECAST OUT, YOU KNOW, AND USE REALISTIC PROJECTIONS SO THAT I CALL IT LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY, YOU KNOW, AND NOT SPEND AND RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A SLOPE THAT WE'RE ON AS WELL AS WE COME OFF OF ESSER.
BUT THOSE FORECASTS ARE CONSIDERED IN ALL OF OUR BUDGET PROJECTIONS.
AND THE FORECASTING IS THERE'S A FIVE YEAR AND A THREE YEAR FORECAST THAT WE MODEL TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT A NOT JUST TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION FUND BALANCE, BUT WHEN WE NEED TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS AROUND WHAT ADJUSTMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE SO THAT WE CAN STAY WITHIN OUR REQUIRED THRESHOLDS, WE CAN DO SO WITH CONFIDENCE.
OKAY. SO WE'LL SEE THAT AS AS TIME PROGRESSES HERE.
OKAY. AND THEN SECOND FLIPPING THROUGH HERE I ALSO HAD A SIMILAR QUESTION.
RIGHT. THE THE MONEY GOES IN AND THEN IT COMES BACK OUT TO THE CAMPUSES AND CENTRAL OFFICE.
RIGHT. SO IF WE'RE BUDGETING AT 100% INTO OUR OWN DISD COFFEE CUP.
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RIGHT. AND THAT GOES TO THE CAMPUSES.HOW COME WE'RE STILL BUDGETING AT 100%? WHEN WE KNOW THE COFFEE CUP IS GOING TO BE IT IS IS GOING TO BE AT 90%.
SO WHAT I WHAT I HEAR YOU ASKING ON THE FRONT END.
YEAH. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF MY QUESTION MAKES SENSE, BUT THANK YOU FOR TRANSLATING.
YEAH I THINK IT'S WHY ARE WE USING WHY DO WE GENERATE OUR REVENUE BASED ON 6160.
WE DON'T STAFF AT 100% FILL RATE AS AN EXAMPLE.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOME THAT ARE VACANT.
SO I THINK DO YOU USE LIKE A 98%? I THINK THERE'S LIKE A 3%, 97% FILL RATE OR A 3%.
AND THEN SO I MEAN, WE COULD IT'S JUST GENERALLY THE PRACTICE IS YOU TAKE THOSE DOLLARS, MULTIPLY IT BY 61, 60 AND YOUR OTHER REVENUES, AND THEN YOU ARE AS CONSERVATIVE AS CONSERVATIVE AS YOU CAN BE AND OVERESTIMATING EXPENDITURES SO THAT YOU CAN AND DO THINGS LIKE OUR FILL RATE.
BECAUSE IF I CHANGE THAT, OF COURSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS THEN OUR DEFICIT WILL GET LARGER, RIGHT? SO IT IS TO YOUR POINT, IT'S LIKE A SHELL GAME WITH THE STATE, RIGHT.
BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, WELL, THE MONEY'S COMING HERE, BUT WE'RE ONLY GOING TO GET THIS MUCH.
AND THEN HOW DO WE DO THIS? BUT I DO KNOW THAT AT EACH CAMPUS I CAN'T I CAN'T GIVE THEM MONEY FOR 92% OF THEIR SALARIES.
YOU KNOW, HOW WE'VE ARRIVED AT, AT THAT REVENUE? IT'S JUST MORE OF A COMMON PRACTICE RATHER THAN I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A BEST PRACTICE.
SO WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT.
I THINK IT JUST IT JUST MAKES SENSE.
AS LONG AS IT'S ACCOUNTED FOR SOMEWHERE THAT'S THAT WAS THE.
OKAY. THEN ON PAGE 12, I SEE IF YOU KIND OF LOOK AT THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THE FIRST BULLET SQUARES I SEE QUANTIFIED REDUCING CENTRAL OFFICE STAFFING IS ABOUT 6.5 MILLION.
IS THERE AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE FOR RIGHTSIZING POSITIONS, RAISING MINIMUM TEACHER SALARY AND COMPENSATION INCREASE? ARE THEY IN A PARTICULAR ORDER? IS THAT WHAT YOU JUST HAD? NO. IS THERE IS THERE AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE LIKE ABOUT HOW MUCH IS IT TO INCREASE MINIMUM WAGE TO 1650 AND GIVE 2% OF [INAUDIBLE] AND HOW MUCH IS IT? YEAH. SO THE BOTTOM TWO, THE MINIMUM TEACHER SALARY TO 62, ALONG WITH THE COMPENSATION INCREASE OF AN AVERAGE OF 2% OF THE MIDPOINT, THOSE TWO ADD UP TO, I THINK WHAT'S REPRESENTED ON THE 34.
IT'S THE THAT TOTALS THE 34...
34 MILLION THAT'S ON THE OTHER SHEET THAT SHOWS.
OKAY. SO THAT STRATEGIC COMPENSATION AND RAISES THAT 34 ACCOUNTS FOR THOSE TWO TRUSTEE WEINBERG.
OKAY. AND THEN THE ONE THAT IS ABOVE THAT ONE, I HAVE TO FIND THAT PAGE, THE ONE THAT'S THANK YOU.
MY MIND DIDN'T WORK THIS FAST WITH ALL THESE PAGES.
THAT WAS IT WAS A MINUS WE REDUCED.
AND THEN I WOULD HAVE TO GET THE TOTAL FOR THAT SECOND BULLETED ITEM.
AND I'M WONDERING IF ANY OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OR IF YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT IN OUR FRAMEWORK, THAT THIS ASSUMPTION DOES NOT TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AT THIS TIME.
WE WOULD HAVE TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT IMPACT COULD BE TO US SPECIFICALLY.
BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THIS ASSUMPTION DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT.
IS THAT SOMETHING I GUESS BY JULY 1ST IS OUR TIME FRAME SOMETHING THAT WE'LL THINK AND FLOW THROUGH? WE CAN WE'LL LOOK AT THAT IMMEDIATELY TO SEE IF IT ANY ADJUSTMENTS NEED TO BE MADE TO OUR CURRENT ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU JUST SHARED.
AND MY TIME LOOKS LIKE IT IS TICKING, SO I'LL GO ON THE NEXT ROUND.
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WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF.WHEN EXACTLY IS THIS GOING TO BE REFLECTED? IS THIS GOING TO BE FOR 2025? THE 25 YEAR 25 2025, CORRECT? BECAUSE IT JUST RECENTLY PASSED AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY I REALLY DIDN'T LOOK AND SEE WHEN IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT.
SO WHEN WILL IT GO INTO EFFECT.
IT WENT INTO EFFECT FOR TAX YEAR 2023.
OKAY. SO YOUR EXEMPTION WAS 40,000.
RIGHT. THAT'S FOR, YES, IT'S ALREADY IN EFFECT.
SO THIS 2024 YEAR WILL SEE IT BECAUSE I MEAN, IT JUST RECENTLY WAS ON THE 2023.
SO YOU'RE SAYING IT WOULDN'T AFFECT THE SAME.
IT WAS RETROACTIVE AND WE'RE GETTING 23 AND 24.
AND ALSO, AS FAR AS SAFETY IS CONCERNED BECAUSE THAT WAS A LOW FUNDED MANDATE.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT PROJECTED LOSSES WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, HOW WHEN WHAT IS PROJECTED TO BE THE YEAR WHERE WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE WHAT WAS REQUIRED FOR EVERY CAMPUS, AND HOW MUCH WILL WE BE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS A WINDFALL FROM THAT? SO THE SCHOOL SAFETY IS AN UNDERFUNDED MANDATE.
IF YOU CAN RECALL, THEY DID GIVE US LIKE $15,000 PER CAMPUS.
AND SO WE HAVE SET ASIDE OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS TO SCALE OUT OUR PLAN TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT OUR, ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE SET FORTH IN THAT LEGISLATION.
AND THEN IT'LL BE ANOTHER $5 MILLION THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS PROPOSAL SO THAT WE CAN GO INTO THE NEXT PHASE OF THE PLAN, WHICH IS TO, OF COURSE, MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE AN ARMED SECURITY OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER AT EACH OF OUR CAMPUSES.
AND SO WHEN YOU SAY WHEN THE WINDFALL WILL COME AGAIN, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING AT THIS TIME BASED IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY SLATED FOR US TO RECEIVE AS IT RELATES TO THIS PARTICULAR MANDATE.
OKAY. AND SO BECAUSE I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT BECAUSE IT ROLLED OUT, WE WERE GIVEN TIME IN ORDER TO GET EVERYTHING IN PLACE TO HAVE IT FULLY STAFFED.
YES, MA'AM. SO THE PRICES THAT THE NUMBERS THAT YOU MENTIONED, 5 MILLION THIS YEAR.
5 MILLION. IS THAT GOING TO BE AN ADDITIONAL 5 MILLION ADDED EVERY YEAR? CORRECT. NOT JUST 5 MILLION BUDGETED, BUT 5 MILLION ADDITIONAL EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO SUSTAIN THOSE SALARIES OF COURSE, GOING FORWARD.
OKAY. AND ALSO, I KNOW THAT IT WAS MENTIONED THAT EARLY ON I DIDN'T WRITE THE SLIDE NUMBER DOWN, BUT AS FAR AS THE STUDENT SURVEYS WERE TAKEN, HOW WERE THEY? WHAT QUESTIONS WERE ASKED AND HOW WERE THEY INCORPORATED INTO THE BUDGET PLAN? STUDENT SURVEYS.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHICH INITIATIVE YOU'RE REFERRING TO? IT WAS ON.
AND LIKE I SAID, I DO APOLOGIZE.
I WAS LISTENING AND TAKING MORE NOTES, PERHAPS.
I WILL, I WILL COME BACK TO IT BECAUSE I DO I DO WANT TO KNOW AS FAR AS BECAUSE IF THE SURVEYS WERE TAKEN FROM THE STUDENTS, HOW WAS IT ACTUALLY INCORPORATED INTO THE BUDGET AS FAR AS THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEYS? AND WERE THEY ACTUALLY HOW HOW THEY WERE ALSO INSTITUTED INTO THIS IS WHAT I REALLY AM WANTING TO KNOW
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NOW. AND I GUESS MY LAST FINAL QUESTION IS THE RESOURCES THAT WE DO RECEIVE BACK FROM OR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES WE RECEIVE BECAUSE WE HAVE STUDENTS THAT FOR SPED STUDENTS, TAG, EMERGING, BILINGUAL AND AT RISK STUDENTS. THAT'S CURRENTLY THAT'S IN THE GENERAL BUDGET, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. THOSE ARE PROGRAM ALLOTMENTS FROM THE STATE.OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.
ANYONE ELSE FOR FIRST ROUND? TRUSTEE HENRY.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO THE SECOND ROUND.
TRUSTEE FOREMAN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU. SO LET'S, LET'S START WITH THE ESSER POSITIONS THAT WE'VE MOVED INTO THE GENERAL BUDGET.
I STRONGLY SUPPORT MOVING THE MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIANS INTO THE CENTRAL BUDGET.
BUT WHAT IS THAT STAFFING NUMBER AND THE AMOUNT? DO WE KNOW? AND IF WE DON'T KNOW, YOU CAN GET THAT TO US LATER.
I THOUGHT IT WAS LISTED ON ONE OF THOSE SLIDES.
SO THERE ARE 44 MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIANS, AND THE ESTIMATED BUDGET IS $4.3 MILLION.
AND THAT'S ACTUALLY ON SLIDE 20.
BUT ON SLIDE 20 AT THE VERY TOP, IT'S A 4.3 MILLION.
AND TRUSTEE FOREMAN. THOSE ARE ESSER FUNDED MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIANS.
SO THERE MORE TO THE GENERAL FUND.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THE NUMBER.
AND IN GENERAL, JUST A ROUGH ESTIMATE.
HOW MUCH DO WE RECEIVE IN GRANTS AND OTHER FUNDING? THAT WOULD BE TIDAL FUNDING INCLUDED.
SO FOR IN TITLE ONE FUNDING ABOUT $60 MILLION.
AND THEN WE RECEIVE SO THEIR TITLE GRANTS.
SO THERE'S TITLE ONE TITLE TWO.
TITLE THREE. TITLE FOUR. THERE'S A CLUSTER OF THEM.
AND THAT IS ANOTHER ABOUT $24 MILLION, I BELIEVE.
BUT AGAIN, I'LL VERIFY AND I CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
AND IS THAT PART OF THE BUDGET ASSUMPTION THAT IS NOT A PART OF THE BUDGET ASSUMPTIONS? BECAUSE THIS IS JUST FOCUSED ON GENERAL OPERATING.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS NOT LOSING IT.
THERE ARE THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT AND I'VE DISCUSSED SOME OF THEM THAT CONCERN ME WITH OUR BUDGETING PROCESS.
AND ONE OF THEM, ONE OF THEM IS, IS THAT WHEN WE SUPERINTENDENT WHEN WE DO THE BUDGET, WE DON'T LOOK AT AREAS THAT.
I KNOW WE'VE CUT SOME STAFF, BUT I WAS JUST GOING THROUGH A REQUEST THAT I MADE REGARDING MILEAGE.
AND WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT GET $4,000 A YEAR FOR MILEAGE.
SO WE'RE SPENDING PROBABLY WHAT WE'RE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE A NUMBER. WE'RE SPENDING SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS REGARDING THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S AN ISSUE WE SHOULD REALLY TAKE A STRONG LOOK AT.
I ALSO BELIEVE THAT OUR WHOLE PROCUREMENT PROCESS NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME INSTANCES WHERE WE CAN HOLD OFF ON PURCHASING.
AND YOU AND I'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION WHERE WE COULD HOLD OFF ON PURCHASING TO THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE.
SO THERE SHOULD BE A CUT OFF TIME REGARDING PROCUREMENT.
AND THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN TERMS OF HOW WE DO DO THOSE SITUATIONS.
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VENDORS. IT IS ENORMOUS.WE ARE A BIG OPERATION, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY DOLLAR POSSIBLE GOES DIRECTLY TO THE CAMPUSES TO ENSURE THAT THE STUDENTS ARE GETTING WHAT THEY NEED. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THAT KIND OF STUFF, THAT BOTHERS ME.
ANOTHER THING THAT I THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF BUDGETING IS, IS THAT WE IMPLEMENT PROGRAMS WITHOUT REALLY ASSESSING PROGRAMS. WE IMPLEMENT THEM. AND THEN SOMETIMES THERE'S 2 OR 3 YEARS BEFORE WE EVEN LOOK AT THAT PROGRAM.
SO WE'RE SPENDING LOTS OF MONEY ON PROGRAMS AND THEN WE SWITCH THE PROGRAM.
I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DOING THINGS.
AND THIS IS GOING TO BE SENSITIVE, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY IT ANYWAY.
WE BOUGHT A NEW BUILDING IN FAR NORTH DALLAS.
IS THAT WORKING TO OUR ADVANTAGE, OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT? BECAUSE WHAT WE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS SPEND MONEY AND DIRECT MONEY AWAY FROM KIDS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.
IF THAT'S NOT WORKING FOR US, WE MIGHT NEED TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT THAT.
I KNOW THAT'S SENSITIVE, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY IT ANYWAY.
I GOT A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO ADDRESS.
WHEN WE LOOK AT ADMINISTRATIVE CUTS.
ARE ANY OF THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE CUTS ON THE CAMPUS, OR ARE THEY ALL AT CENTRAL? THEY'RE AT BOTH.
OKAY, SO THEY'RE CAMPUS AND CENTRAL.
CORRECT. SO WHAT I WANT TO SEE IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE CUTS AT CENTRAL AS OPPOSED TO CAMPUS.
REMEMBER, MY PROCESS IS DRIVEN TOWARD CAMPUS, NOT CENTRAL.
AND AS WE CONTINUE TO LOSE STUDENTS, THEN WE NEED TO ADJUST TO THAT.
AND SO WHEN YOU TELL ME YOU'VE HAD ADMINISTRATIVE CUTS AND THEY'RE AT CAMPUS, THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT I RAISE IN TERMS OF WE DON'T WANT TO BE A TOP HEAVY ADMINISTRATOR, WE WANT TO BE AN EFFICIENT ADMINISTRATION.
AND SO I WOULD NEVER SAY CUT TO THE BONE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING ALL THAT WE CAN TO DRIVE EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN TO THE CAMPUSES.
AND YOU AND I'VE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS SUPERINTENDENT.
AND AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CORRECT TO RIGHT SIZE, MAYBE IT'S A BETTER STATEMENT IN TERMS OF OUR IT PROCESS.
YOU KNOW WHAT? I CAN'T EVEN GET INTO THE TRUSTEE TRACKER ANYMORE BECAUSE WE CHANGED.
I USED TO BE ABLE TO GO IN AND SEARCH FOR WHAT CAMILLE PUT IN.
AND SO SOMETIMES CHANGE IS NOT GOOD.
THAT'S THAT'S THIS TRUSTEE SPEAKING.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SEARCH THE TRUSTEE TRACKER LIKE I DO, BUT I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR INFORMATION TO TRY TO BE ABLE TO BE A BETTER TRUSTEE. BESIDES THE CLINICIANS, WHAT OTHER STAFF MEMBERS DID WE MOVE OVER FROM ESSER TO GENERAL FUND? ASIDE FROM THE CLINICIANS WE ALSO HAVE RESET CENTER STAFF.
FOR OUR RESET CENTER IMPLEMENTATION THAT IS COMING OVER FROM ESSER.
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AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR TUTORING.SO THOSE ARE THE THE COLLEGE ACCESS PROVIDERS THROUGH CONTRACTED SERVICES, I BELIEVE.
BUT WE WERE BUT THEY WERE COMING OUT OF ESSER DOLLARS.
OKAY. AND IS IT IS IT THE CONTRACTED SERVICES OR THE ADDITIONAL COUNSELORS THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET TO MAKE UP THAT 14 MILLION? NO, THE ADDITIONAL COUNSELORS, I THINK, ARE ADDED INTO THAT.
RIGHT. OR ADDED INTO THE 14.9.
THE 4040 PLUS THAT WE ADDED TO THE HIGH SCHOOLS PLUS THE COLLEGE ACCESS PROVIDERS.
SO IT'S A BOTH END. AND THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
SO NO ONE THINKS WE'RE REPLACING THESE ARE ACTUAL ADDITIONAL STAFF TEAM MEMBERS OKAY.
AND SO ACCESS PROVIDERS ALWAYS CAME OUT OF GENERAL FUND PRIOR TO ESSER.
THE EXPANSION TOOK PLACE WHEN ESSER CAME AND THAT'S WHEN AND I WAS NOT THE SUPERINTENDENT AT THE TIME, BUT THE BOARD DID APPROVE THE EXPANSION AND IT WAS LIKE AN ADDITIONAL 11 MILLION THAT YOU ALL DID APPROVE TO EXPAND INTO THE OTHER GRADE LEVELS.
I'M SORRY. MY HAND. TRUSTEE FOREMAN.
MAY I ASK ONE QUESTION? GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.
SO HOW MUCH REVENUE DO WE GENERATE FROM REAL PROPERTY LEASING? AND THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAM THAT I'M TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND.
TRUSTEE FOREMAN I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME.
THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT WE GENERATE FROM REAL PROPERTY LEASING.
SO IF YOU WOULD JUST GIVE TO THE BOARD, NOT JUST ME.
YES, MA'AM. A LISTING OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
THAT WOULD. I THINK THAT WOULD HELP ALL OF US.
ANYONE ELSE? TRUSTEE WEINBERG.
I HAVE A QUICK CLARIFYING QUESTION ON PAGES 18, 19, 20 AND 21 AND 22.
AND THIS AMOUNT IS WHAT'S IN THE 2024-2025 BUDGET CORRECT? YES. IS IT POSSIBLE TO JUST GOING JUST TO SEE LATER OR TO PUT THE TRACKER TO HAVE A COLUMN IN THERE THAT SAYS WHAT WAS IN THE 20 THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND WHAT BUCKET IT CAME OUT OF? OKAY. SO FOR EACH OF THESE THAT ARE LISTED HERE, JUST SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE WHAT THE WHERE WE'RE GOING FROM TO EXACTLY.
OKAY. BECAUSE BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S KIND OF A BLEND.
THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU.
WHEN YOU ANSWER THAT WE'RE MAKING BOTH ADMINISTRATIVE CUTS AT THE CAMPUSES AND CENTRAL STAFF.
IS THAT ACCURATE? 6.5 THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THEN THE 3 MILLION IS OTHER EXPENSES.
DEPARTMENT BUDGET SHRINKING ANYTHING CODED TO CENTRAL.
WE'RE PROPOSING THIS AND THAT.
WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE NEXT PART I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH IT.
WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED PROGRAMS AND WE DON'T REALLY FOLLOW THEM.
AND WE DO. WE HAVE A SERIOUS TEAM THAT DOES THAT GIANT BOOK OF PROGRAM EVALUATIONS.
AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT CLOSER TO EVALUATING OUR PROGRAMS IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR GOALS, WHICH IS WHAT THIS BOARD UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED AND SAID, THESE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS. AND SO I THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS WAS A LOT OF WORK TO GET INTO THIS.
I HEARD YOU MENTIONED, SO I LOOKED AT THE DOCUMENT HERE.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S DEFINITELY AN INVESTMENT DOCUMENT WE HAVE.
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DO YOU ALL HAVE SOMEWHERE THE DATA THAT SHOWS WHETHER THIS PROGRAM WORKED OR DIDN'T WORK OR IS UNCLEAR, ETC.? BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT ON THIS DOCUMENT.IT'S AN INTERNAL DOCUMENT THAT WE USE TO DETERMINE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
SO WE GAVE YOU A SNAPSHOT LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIANS.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING WE'RE WE'RE SHOWING YOU WHAT IMPLEMENTATION DATA HAVE WE SEEN.
WHAT ARE THE LONG AND SHORT OUTCOME GOALS.
IF THERE ARE SOME PIVOTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE IN ORDER TO HELP US MAKE THAT DECISION.
SO TO THE BOX AND THE FRAMEWORK THAT SAYS SUPPORTING EVIDENCE, CAN WE POINT TO CONCRETE EVIDENCE, EITHER FROM NATIONAL RESEARCH OR TRACK RECORD OF SUCCESS IN THE DISTRICT? AM I READING IT CORRECTLY TO BE THE BOTTOM BOX OF SHORT AND LONG TERM OUTCOME DATA? IS THE SUPPORTING EVIDENCE, OR IS THERE OTHER SUPPORTING EVIDENCE? WELL, THAT'S ONE. BUT THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE THERE'S SUPPORTING EVIDENCE THAT ARE HYPERLINKED IN THE BOTTOM BOX.
AND SO WE'RE BASICALLY AS BEST AS WE CAN SAYING THAT BASED ON OUR ANALYSIS, MENTAL HEALTH AND THE WORK THAT WE'VE ALREADY MADE BECAUSE WE'VE MADE LOCAL INVESTMENTS HERE ALREADY, HERE IS WHAT THE OUTCOMES WE'RE SEEING.
CORRECT. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IN THE TOP BOX WE HAVE THE MONTHLY CLINICIAN PRODUCTIVITY REPORT.
SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE EVIDENCE PIECES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
AND WE'RE REQUESTING THAT ALL OF THESE BE FUNDED IN THIS BUDGET OR ARE THERE SOME ON HERE THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING CUTS ON? YEAH, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT LISTS.
ONE IS THE THE LIST THAT HAS EVERYTHING ON THERE THAT WE JUST GAVE YOU THE SNAPSHOT OF THAT.
AND THEN IN OUR PRINTOUTS THESE ARE EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE ASKING TO TO KEEP TO KEEP.
YES. SO THERE ARE OTHER THINGS.
THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WE'RE NOT ASKING TO KEEP.
WELL. AND SOME OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY GOING.
IT GOES BACK TO QUESTION THAT TRUSTEE FOREMAN ASKED.
SOME OF THESE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO TITLE OR THEY'RE GOING TO.
SO WE'RE USING MULTIPLE SOURCES.
BUT SINCE THE BOARD APPROVES THE BUDGET FOR THE GENERAL OPERATING, THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING WHAT OF THAT ARE WE WANTING TO MOVE TO GENERAL OPERATING AND WHY. AND THEN THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T GET A RETURN ON INVESTMENT SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH FOR US TO EITHER BRING TO YOU IN GENERAL OPERATING OR TO FIND ANOTHER ONE OF OUR OTHER NON GENERAL OPERATING FUNDING STREAMS. CAN YOU PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS THAT WE LOOKED AT? WE TRIED OUR BEST. YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT EVEN HAVE HAD SOME GOOD IMPACT, BUT IT WASN'T WORTH IT.
AND WE'RE MAKING THE HARD DECISION TO CUT IT.
I THINK I CAN A COUPLE LIKE THE VIRTUAL SCHOOL SUPPORT WAS ONE THAT WE DECIDED TO CUT, AND SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE. WE ALSO HAVE THE SPED COMPENSATORY SERVICES AND SPED EDUCATION BACKLOG.
THOSE ARE.. TO ME, THAT'S WE DON'T NEED IT THOUGH VERSUS WE ARE CHOOSING NOT TO HAVE IT.
YEAH. THE FIRST ONE WAS WE DID HAVE DATA THAT SAID THIS WAS NOT A GOOD INVESTMENT.
AND AND WHEN WE SAY GOOD INVESTMENT IT WASN'T THE BEST RIGHT.
RIGHT. BECAUSE ALL OF THESE ARE GIVING IN GENERAL OR PROBABLY IMPROVING SOMETHING SOMEWHERE.
AND SO BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A DOCUMENT THAT HAS SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO AT LEAST GET YOU ALL TO GET A GLIMPSE OF WHAT IT IS THE TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING WITH AS THEY THEN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE BUDGET.
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IT'S THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR ME AS A BOARD MEMBER AND IN THAT CONTEXT OF THE BOARD ADOPTING THIS BUDGET TO KNOW THE THINGS THAT WE ARE CHOOSING NOT TO ADOPT A BUDGET IN AND WHY WE'RE CHOOSING NOT TO ADOPT IT.I'M NOT ASKING YOU NECESSARILY TO GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM HERE, BUT TO PROVIDE THOSE.
AND I CAN IMAGINE WHAT WOULD MAKE THIS CHART SUPER HELPFUL FOR ME WOULD BE TWO MORE COLUMNS HERE, ONE OF WHICH IS WHAT'S THE EVIDENCE SOURCE? IS IT JUST NATIONAL RESOURCE, NATIONAL RESEARCH? BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T TRIED IT IN OUR DISTRICT, BUT WE THINK IT'S A VIABLE THING.
OR IS IT LOCAL? HAVE WE TRIED SOMETHING LIKE MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIANS AND IT'S SHOWING WORK.
LIKE I THINK A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THIS LAST YEAR WAS WE'RE CHOOSING TO CUT SUMMER PROGRAMS, WHICH ARE DOING GOOD THINGS, AND PEOPLE REALLY APPRECIATE THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE BIGGEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK. WE'RE GOING TO INVEST IN READING INTERVENTIONISTS.
THAT'S A VERY CLEAR CASE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE WHEN PEOPLE LOSE THEIR SUMMER PROGRAMS THAT ARE REALLY MEANINGFUL, AND IT'D BE REALLY HELPFUL TO KNOW, OKAY, WHAT'S THE EVIDENCE THAT Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT? JUST A WORD, NATIONAL OR LOCAL OR BOTH? AND THEN WHAT'S THE PRIORITY? BASED ON THE DATA WE SEE HIGH PRIORITY POSITIVE MEDIUM NEGATIVE LIKE LOW LIKE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SCALE IS, BUT JUST TO KNOW AND SEE WHAT WE ARE CUTTING AND MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE THAT'S THE BUDGET.
ULTIMATELY WE HAVE TO ADOPT, AND ESPECIALLY GOING INTO NEXT YEAR WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CUT $186 MILLION UNLESS THE THE UNLIKELY SCENARIO OF GETTING A HUGE WINDFALL FROM THE STATE, WHICH PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN BE AN IMPACT YET.
BUT WE'LL SEE. THAT WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL IN THIS BECAUSE OTHERWISE THIS IS JUST A LIST OF INVESTMENTS FOR THE BOARD, EVEN THOUGH Y'ALL HAVE DONE THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT. SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONE PUSH HERE.
BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT THE DEEP AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE IN THIS.
AND IF YOU COULD SEND THE BACKGROUND, THAT'D BE HELPFUL.
LIKE, IF YOU HAVE THESE, I'D LOVE TO LOOK THROUGH THEM.
AND THEN I HAD A COMPENSATION QUESTION ON SLIDE 19.
SO, ROBERT, THIS MIGHT BE FOR YOU.
RAISING THE MINIMUM TEACHER SALARY.
DOES THAT MEAN HOW DOES THIS WORK WITH TEI? ARE YOU RAISING ALL BANDS UP A LITTLE BIT AND PEOPLE STILL FALL IN TEI OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? YEAH, IT WOULD HAVE SOME COMPRESSION FACTORS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ZERO TEACHER WE HIRE IN DOESN'T MAKE MORE THAN LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, A FIRST YEAR TEACHER THAT'S COMING BACK TO US. SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE COMPRESSION COSTS OF THOSE AS WELL.
ARE YOU COMPRESSING EVERY BAND OF TY UPWARDS? MOST OF THEM, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY ANYWHERE BETWEEN 1000 AND $1500 TO KEEP THAT THAT, THAT COMPRESSION EQUAL AS WE GO UP.
ARE THERE ANY BANDS THAT ARE NOT RECEIVING COMPRESSION? I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR MASTERS LEVEL, THEY GET THE MASTERS AND THEY CONTINUE TO GET THAT 2% ON TOP OF.
BUT THE ENTRY SALARY TOPS OFF AT THAT 100,000.
GOTCHA. SO THE ENTRY ISN'T CHANGING, BUT THE PERCENTAGE WOULD STILL CHANGE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL.
ON ON ON ON SLIDE 17 WELL ACTUALLY IT'S 17 AND THERE AND IT RELATES TO OTHERS WHEN IT'S ASKING AS FOR AS WHEN IT'S STATING STUDENTS SENSE OF BELONGING, IS THIS INFORMATION FROM SURVEYS OR HOW HOW IS HOW IS THAT GENERATED? TRUSTEE. YOU'RE RIGHT.
IT IS FROM SURVEYS FROM OUR STUDENT EXPERIENCES.
OKAY. AND THIS IS PART OF ONE OF OUR CONSTRAINTS OKAY.
AND AND SO THE SURVEYS THAT THE STUDENTS WERE GIVEN, OF COURSE, I'M SURE IT MAY HAVE JUST BEEN, YOU KNOW, CHECKED OFF AND NOT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.
OR IT COULD HAVE BEEN A COMBINATION OF BOTH.
WAS IT A COMBINATION OF BOTH WHERE THEY COULD ACTUALLY INPUT INFORMATION THAT THEY TRULY HAD CONCERNS ABOUT IT, OR WAS IT JUST SOMETHING SCRIPTED THAT THEY RECEIVED? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
OKAY. AND BECAUSE I DO HAVE, BUT I'LL ASK YOU ABOUT THAT LATER.
I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT I'M HEARING THAT SOME OF THE STUDENTS ARE ARE HAVING WITH SOME OF THE SITUATIONS OF CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE ON SOME OF THE CAMPUSES, AND I CAN GET THAT SURVEY FOR YOU.
SO YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE THE QUESTION.
IT'S ON SLIDE 19, NURSING, SPECIAL ED AND SPEECH THERAPY THERAPY INITIATIVES.
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I KNOW THAT WHAT THIS AMOUNT THAT'S LISTED HERE THE MILLION IS I KNOW WE HAVE SOME NURSES ON CAMPUS.IS THIS TO SUSTAIN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND ALSO DO SOME INCREASING AS WELL.
I MEAN, I KNOW EVERYTHING IS IS LUMPED ALL INTO ONE.
AND CAN WE HAVE THAT BROKEN OUT SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, NURSING SPECIAL ED AND SPEECH THERAPY.
SO WE'LL SEE HOW MUCH MONEY IS ACTUALLY ALLOCATED TO EACH ONE.
YES WE CAN WE CAN BREAK THAT OUT FOR YOU.
BUT THIS IS AN INCENTIVE THAT'S PROVIDED TO STAFF THOSE HARD TO FILL ROLES.
THAT'S WHAT THIS $1 MILLION IS SUPPORTING.
OKAY. SO SO BASICALLY THE ONES THAT WE OH SO IT IS TO RECRUIT.
SO IT IS SO AND I GUESS WHEN I, WHEN I'M ASKING ABOUT.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY JUST TO CLARIFY.
BUT WE'LL STAY WITHIN THAT CAP.
NO BECAUSE I AM CONCERNED I KNOW WE DID HAVE SOME NURSES THAT WERE DOING FLOATING AND SOME CAMPUSES.
APPARENTLY WE DID A FEW CHANGES THERE.
SO THAT'S I JUST WANT TO KNOW.
BASICALLY TO SUSTAIN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND ADD TO IT.
SO BUT THAT I THINK THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.
SO. SO FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THIS.
AND WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT ONE.
AND AS YOU DID DURING THE PRESENTATION AT THE AT THE MEETING IN HILLCREST, WHICH WAS REALLY GREAT AND SUPER WELL ATTENDED AND EVERYBODY DID A GREAT JOB. THE CHIEF IN PARTICULAR JUST JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO FOLKS AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE INPUT.
AND THOSE ARE SO GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL.
AND, AND ALSO WANT TO APPRECIATE KIND OF KIND OF GETTING A GLANCE BEHIND THE SCENES OF ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU ALL DO, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST LIKE ONE SHEET OUT OF, I'M SURE, HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF THEM.
AND I DON'T NEED TO SEE ALL OF THEM.
I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB AND DOING WHAT'S RIGHT FOR KIDS.
ON THE, LET'S SEE, PAGE 21 ON THE COLLEGE ACCESS PROVIDERS.
THE ONE THING THAT WE CAN ACCOUNT FOR THAT IN THAT IS THE OUTCOMES BASED FUNDING, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE CAN'T BUDGET NOW FOR SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACCESS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT THAT SHOULD PAY FOR THIS, SHOULDN'T IT? AT LEAST WE THINK WE HOPE IF WE DO THINGS RIGHT, WE SHOULD SEE AN INCREASE IN OUTCOMES BASED FUNDING.
YES, SIR. RIGHT. AND SO WHAT WHAT WHAT TO THE TUNE OF LIKE HOW MUCH? LET'S SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THE MAYBE I WOULD SAY FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK THIS PAST YEAR WE PROBABLY HAD ABOUT $4 MILLION I THINK WAS WHAT OUR OUTCOMES BASED FUNDING WAS.
AND WE EACH YEAR WE, WE TEND TO MOVE VERTICALLY LIKE WE NEED TO AND OBVIOUSLY NOT AS STEEP A SLOPE AS WE WANT TO, BUT I THINK OVER TIME WE SHOULD EXPECT TO SEE THE NUMBER CONTINUE TO CLIMB.
SO WHAT WOULD BE KIND OF THE I WAS GOING TO SAY HE DID SHOW ME.
HE'S BEING HE DOESN'T WANT TO HOLD.
HE WANT TO BE HELD UNDER PROMISE.
I KNOW, BUT YOU DID GIVE ME AN ESTIMATE WHEN WE LOOKED AT SOME DATA.
WHAT ARE WE ESTIMATING CONSERVATIVELY? BUT WHAT ARE WE ESTIMATING? BECAUSE THIS IS A TWO YEAR LAG, SO IT'S NOT A ONE YEAR LAG.
DO YOU REMEMBER THAT AMOUNT? I DO, YES, MA'AM.
I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT IT TODAY, SO I LOOK AT IT QUITE OFTEN.
BUT WE RIGHT NOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE MULTIPLE FACTORS.
AND THEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER COMPONENT, WHETHER THEY ENROLL IN COLLEGE OR GET A CERTIFICATE OR GET A CERTIFICATION, RIGHT, OR AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE, THOSE ARE ALL THE FACTORS. BUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT RIGHT NOW WHO ARE TSAI MET IS A LITTLE OVER $6 MILLION.
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AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, I WAS IN A SCHOOL TODAY.AND, YOU KNOW, OUR SENIORS ARE TAKING TSAI RIGHT NOW, THOSE WHO ARE NOT MET.
SO. SO THIS INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE MAKING, I MEAN, IT'S WHAT'S RIGHT FOR KIDS, FIRST OF ALL.
BUT THEN EVENTUALLY THE STATE'S GOING TO RECOGNIZE.
I MEAN, I EXPECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING SIGNIFICANTLY MORE OUTCOME BASED FUNDING.
THE PROBLEM IS IT DOESN'T SHOW UP IN OUR BUDGET, RIGHT.
IT WON'T FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS AN INVESTMENT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S RIGHT FOR KIDS AND WILL YIELD.
YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
I'M JUST USING THIS AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE IT'S AN EASY EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF BAKING INTO OUR BUDGET KNOWING THAT THAT COST IS GOING TO BE THERE MOVING OVER FROM ESSER.
DID I, DID I MISS IT? WAS IT IN THIS IN ANY OF THESE DOCUMENTS? NO, NO, NO IT WASN'T.
WHY NOT? BECAUSE. BECAUSE IT'S BOND MONEY.
SO. SO YOU KNOW OF COURSE IF WE DIDN'T WANT IT, WE COULD JUST SELL IT TO A CHARTER SCHOOL.
RIGHT. OR WE COULD JUST MAYBE SELL A PROPERTY IN, YOU KNOW, OLD, THE OLD.
BUT IT IS THE BUDGET BECAUSE IT WAS IT WAS RAISED EARLIER.
YOU KNOW, THE VOTERS OF NORTH DALLAS DID VOTE OVERWHELMINGLY IN FAVOR OF OF THE BOND AND THAT SCHOOL AND DISTRICT ONE AND TWO ARE THE HIGHEST VOTING DISTRICTS IN IN THE CITY. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BEAR IN MIND THAT WE MADE A PROMISE TO THE VOTERS, OKAY, THAT WE WOULD BUILD THAT SCHOOL.
ALL RIGHT. LET'S LET'S MOVE ON BUDGET WISE, WHEN THOSE STUDENTS COME AND WE INCREASE OUR AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE, WHICH IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE, OUR INCREASE OF AVERAGE DAILY.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO HEAR THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, DIFFER FROM THE TRUTH.
BUT WE INCREASE OUR AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE BY BRINGING IN NEW STUDENTS INTO A NEW SCHOOL.
THEN THAT WOULD INCREASE OUR BUDGET, WOULD IT NOT? YES. THANK YOU.
THAT'S IT, MR. PRESIDENT. OKAY, LET'S ENTER THE SECOND ROUND.
TRUSTEE JOHNSON WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT.
TRUSTEE HENRY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO, I HAVE MY QUESTIONS OFFLINE OR I HAVE SOME FOLLOWING THE MEETING.
SO THANK YOU, ADMINISTRATION, FOR DOING THAT.
AND I CAN'T TELL FROM THIS ANGLE OF TRUSTEE JOHNSON IS ONE OF THOSE BOXES UP THERE.
IS HE ON THE LINE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND CLARIFICATIONS.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ACCESS PROVIDERS AND IN THIS BUDGET, IS THIS BUDGET JUST MAINTAINING THE LEVEL OF ACCESS PROVIDERS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE 23-24 BUDGET, OR IS IT ADDING? TRUSTEE MICCICHE, IT IS MAINTAINING CURRENT STATE.
OKAY. AND IN TERMS OF AMPING UP THE AMOUNT OF CAREER ADVISING SERVICES AND COUNSELING SERVICES, WHAT WHAT IS THE DELTA FROM 23-24, MEANING THE CURRENT YEAR TO THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? WELL, WE'RE ADDING ABOUT $4 MILLION OVERALL.
WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE 2425 SCHOOL YEAR.
AND THEN JUST BIG PICTURE ON THE ESSER FUNDS.
WHAT IS THE, THE REDUCTION OR WHAT WAS THE ESSER FUND AMOUNT IN 23-24 AND IT, WILL IT DROP TO 0 IN 24-25 OR DO WE HAVE ARE WE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE EXTENSION PAST SEPTEMBER 1ST OF 2024.
SO FOR THIS YEAR ESSER BUDGET WAS $263 MILLION.
AND WE WILL HAVE EXPENDED ALL $263 MILLION BY JUNE 30TH.
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OKAY. THANK YOU.SO SO THAT IS A A HUGE REDUCTION IN FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR OUR DISTRICT THAT I DON'T THINK WE BROUGHT, BROUGHT OUT THE HOW BIG THAT THAT NUMBER IS.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF PROPOSED PROPOSED COMPENSATION INCREASES, AGAIN, BIG PICTURE IN THE AGGREGATE, NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GET THE SAME PERCENTAGE.
BUT WHAT IS THE AGGREGATE PERCENTAGE AGAIN? IT'S ABOUT 2%.
OKAY. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US, SURROUNDING DISTRICTS AND DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE ARE ARE DOING THINGS LIKE CLOSING SCHOOLS AND HAVING RIFTS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
AND NO, SCHOOLS ARE ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
OKAY. AND THEN I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
OKAY. THAT IS NOT THAT IS NOT A CONSIDERATION AT SOME POINT.
IF THE STATE DOES NOT DO SOMETHING.
AS I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE, THESE ARE VERY DIFFICULT DECISIONS.
THEY'RE VERY DIFFICULT RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE REALLY DO HAVE DIFFICULTY WALKING THROUGH THESE DECISIONS, AS I KNOW THIS BOARD DOES.
IF THE STATE DOES NOT IMPROVE.
AND AS WE SHOWED YOU, WE ALSO DON'T GET $6,160.
AND I WANT TO TAKE THIS MOMENT.
I KNOW I'M TAKING YOUR TIME, TRUSTEE MICCICHE, BUT THIS IS THE MOST ONE OF THE MOST INEQUITABLE PRACTICES THAT THE STATE COULD HAVE WITH PUBLIC SCHOOL FUNDING, BECAUSE THE STUDENT POPULATION THAT IS GOING TO HAVE THE LARGEST DIFFICULTY WITH HAVING GREAT ATTENDANCE ARE STUDENTS WHO HAVE THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
THEY HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE.
THEY HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ACCESS TO HEALTHY FOOD.
THEY HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION.
THEY HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ACCESS TO COMMUNITY PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORT THEM AFTER SCHOOL.
BUT THOSE ARE EXACTLY THE STUDENTS WHO NEED TO BENEFIT FROM THESE DOLLARS.
SO THIS IS WHY TEXAS IS ONLY ONE OF SIX STATES REMAINING IN THE ENTIRE UNION THAT STILL FUNDS PUBLIC SCHOOL ON ATTENDANCE, NOT ON ENROLLMENT.
I THINK IT IS A TRAVESTY, AND I REALLY WISH THAT WE WOULD GET BACK AT THE STATE LEVEL TO BEING STUDENT CENTERED ON FUNDING OUR SCHOOLS, AND SO WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS.
WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT CLASS SIZES IN THE FUTURE.
THEY HAVE TWO PLANNING PERIODS THAT IN AND OF ITSELF WOULD SAVE SOMEWHERE AROUND $28 MILLION.
BUT IT'S A GOOD INSTRUCTIONAL INVESTMENT.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO COME IN AND CUT EVERYTHING JUST AT ONCE, BECAUSE WE DO HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION AND SPECIFICALLY FOR PUBLIC SCHOOL FUNDING.
SORRY. ACTUALLY, I WAS GOING TO COMMERCIAL.
I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS ONE BY ONE.
BUT BUT THANK YOU FOR THE FOR THE LONG RESPONSE.
AND THE LAST THE LAST THING I WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR WAS IT'S ON PAGE 13, I THINK.
SO IF AND I KNOW THIS IS A COMPLICATED FORMULA, BUT IF PROPERTY VALUES GO UP 20%, WHAT'S THE EFFECT ON OUR BUDGET? OUR RECAPTURE RATE IS GOING TO INCREASE.
SO IT WILL BASICALLY ALL GO TO RECAPTURE.
IT'LL GO TO RECAPTURE WHEN OUR WHEN OUR CONSTITUENTS SEE THEIR TAX BILL GOING UP AS A RESULT OF A, AN INCREASE IN THEIR APPRAISAL VALUE IN APPRAISED VALUE.
IT'S BECAUSE RECAPTURE TAKES IT ALL AND WE DON'T GET IT.
AND THEN AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO RAISE THE TAX RATE ITSELF.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO GOING FOR ROUND THREE? ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY. ROUND THREE.
YEAH. I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION AND I WELL, A REQUEST AND IT'S ON SLIDE TEN.
THE INSERT THERE, ARE WE GOING TO GET THAT IN THE TRACKER OR HOW ARE WE GOING TO RECEIVE THAT.
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ARE YOU GOING TO GET WHICH DOCUMENT I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE TEN.YES. AND IT SAYS THE VERTICAL TEAM, THE THE SCHOOLS, THE ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS.
RIGHT. WE CAN RESEND THAT BACK IN THE TRACKER AND OKAY.
YES. AND YEAH THAT THAT IS DEFINITELY ONE.
AS IS AND ALSO BY DISTRICTS AS WELL SEPARATED OUT.
I JUST HAVE THE WHOLE THE WHOLE LIST.
OKAY. AND YEAH, THAT WAS THAT'S IT FOR ME.
I'M ON PAGE 12, AND THIS IS A ROBERT QUESTION.
AND I'M LOOKING AT CURRENT BUDGET.
I'M NOT SMART, BUT I'M NOT DUMB EITHER.
ROBERT. SO THE THIS IS THE LAST BULLET ON THE 2024, 2025 PLANNING COMPENSATION, INCREASED MINIMUM WAGE. 1650 AN HOUR, 2% OF MIDPOINT.
SO THAT USUALLY MEANS THE MIDPOINT OF WHATEVER THAT GRADE, THAT JOB LEVEL IS.
CORRECT? CORRECT. DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED COST ON HOW MUCH THAT WILL COST US? APPROXIMATELY $10.3 MILLION.
OKAY. AND IN THIS CURRENT 2023 2024 BUDGET HOW MUCH DID WE RAISE THE COMPENSATION ON OUR HOURLY EMPLOYEES? WE WENT FROM 15 TO $16.
I WOULD HAVE TO I HAVE TO LOOK THAT ONE.
CAN YOU LOOK IT UP? I'M JUST TRYING TO GET IN MY HEAD.
I'M NOT AGAINST IT, BUT I'M TRYING TO GET A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
AND THEN WHEN I WAS OFF THE BOARD, THEY INCREASED IT AGAIN TO 10,000.
SO I'D BE IN FAVOR OF REDUCING THAT.
THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND THAT TRUSTEE JOHNSON WAS ABLE TO JOIN US AND IS ON THE LINE.
SO, TRUSTEE JOHNSON, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU. AND I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO STAY ON LONG.
BUT I WAS LISTENING TO TRUSTEE FOREMAN AND I WAS LISTENING TO TRUSTEE EDWIN CONCERNING THE CAME IN ON, I THINK HE WAS SAYING ABOUT THE TRUSTEE BALANCE WITH 10,000.
I LOOKED AT THAT PARTICULAR DOCUMENTATION AND OR ACTUALLY POLICY AND IN THAT POLICY, UNLESS MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, IT DIDN'T HAVE NO PARTICULAR AMOUNT THAT TRUSTEES RECEIVED.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE $10,000 CAME FROM BECAUSE THE POLICY DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY 10,000.
HOWEVER, I AM AWARE THAT WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION TRAVELS AS NEEDED, THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO TRAVEL WITHOUT A PARTICULAR AMOUNT, SO THEY'RE ABLE TO TRAVEL AS NEEDED.
BUT WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT PROCESS? BECAUSE THE POLICY IS NOT SPECIFIC ON THE AMOUNT.
AND THESE TEACHERS AND SUPPORT STAFF, SO THAT THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME.
AND SO I'M AGAIN, I'M COMING IN ON THE TAIL END OF THINGS AS I'M TRAVELING.
AND I'LL GET WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT.
SHE WANTS TO ADDRESS THAT NOW WE'RE GOING TO, OF COURSE, SCHEDULE A TIME WHERE WE CAN ADDRESS THAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH TRUSTEE MICCICHE.
THANK YOU, TRUSTEE JOHNSON, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS NOT SPOKEN YET ON ROUND THREE? ALL RIGHT. THE TIME IS NOW 7:24, AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.