Jan 17, 2024 Board of Trustees and Superintendent's Workshop Agenda and Notice

THE TIME IS 5:32 P.M.

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GOOD EARLY EVENING, AND WELCOME TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND SUPERINTENDENT WORKSHOP OF THE DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

WE, ALREADY JUST DID A SALUTE TO THE FLAG AND A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

WE'RE GOING TO DISPENSE OF IT FOR THIS MEETING.

WE HAVE ALL TRUSTEES.

I'M NOT GOING TO NAME THEM PRESENT TODAY.

WE HAVE OUR SUPERINTENDENT AND MYSELF.

WE DO NOT HAVE A CLOSED SESSION.

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DR. ELIZALDE, IT'S ALL YOURS.

YES, SIR. AS REQUIRED, WE HAVE KATIE LONG, WHO WILL GIVE US OUR POST LEGISLATIVE UPDATE FROM THE 88TH TEXAS LEGISLATURE. GOOD EVENING, TRUSTEES.

TODAY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, THE 88TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

HERE'S A QUICK OVERVIEW.

WE'LL BRIEFLY DISCUSS AND REMIND EVERYONE ABOUT DALLAS ISD'S LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND AN OVERVIEW OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

MUCH OF THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU IN YOUR BOARD PACKET IN JUNE.

THAT WAS PREPARED BY LOU ANN MARTINEZ.

BUT TODAY WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON ACTUAL LEGISLATION PASSED.

AND MOST OF THAT LEGISLATION FALLS INTO THE CATEGORIES OF HEALTH AND SAFETY, PARENTS RIGHTS, STUDENTS AND EMPLOYEE ISSUES, SPECIAL EDUCATION, AND A SPECIAL BILL WITH RESPECT TO DYSLEXIA, ACCOUNTABILITY AND OPEN GOVERNMENT AND BUSINESS.

AND THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT LEGISLATION THAT IS EITHER SPECIFIC TO SCHOOLS OR PART OF THE LEGISLATION DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, DALLAS ISD HAD FIVE PRIMARY LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES SCHOOL SAFETY, ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO ADDRESS STUDENT LEARNING LOSS, TEACHER SHORTAGE AND COST OF INFLATION.

ACCOUNTABILITY TO ENSURE THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF TAX DOLLARS.

FOUR, TO PRESERVE LOCAL DECISION MAKING, AND FIVE, PRE-K FUNDING.

SCHOOL SAFETY.

THERE WERE VARIOUS MEASURES THAT PASSED.

TWO ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

THOSE FUNDING BILLS WERE DEAD AND DID NOT MAKE IT THROUGH EITHER THE REGULAR SESSION OR FOR SPECIAL SESSIONS.

THERE WERE SOME MEASURES TAKEN WITH RESPECT TO ACCOUNTABILITY, BUT WITH RESPECT TO LOCAL DECISION MAKING, MUCH OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION WAS ACTUALLY SPENT ON THINGS TAKING AWAY LOCAL CONTROL AND ADDING MANDATORY REPORTING REQUIREMENTS AND OTHER STATE SPECIFIED REQUIREMENTS FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

AND WITH RESPECT TO PRE-K FUNDING, THE ONLY LEGISLATION WITH RESPECT TO PRE-K FUNDING, WHICH WAS HB 1615, WHICH ESTABLISHED A PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM TO ASSIST ELIGIBLE PRE-K PROVIDERS IN PARTNERING WITH LOCAL PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND CHARTERS TO PROVIDE FREE PRE FREE PRE-K CLASSES AND THE SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM.

FUNDS ARE ANTICIPATED TO COME FROM THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION AND OR TEA, AND THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED.

THERE WERE NO OTHER ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR PRE-K FUNDING THAT CAME OUT OF THE 88TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

SO WITH RESPECT TO THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, AS YOU KNOW, ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE COMPTROLLER ANNOUNCED A $32.7 BILLION BUDGET SURPLUS THAT WAS THE LARGEST IN DECADES.

THAT BUDGET SURPLUS IS ACTUALLY LARGER THAN THE BUDGET OF 24 STATES IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND IT WAS UP TO THE LEGISLATURE TO DETERMINE HOW WE COULD SPEND IT.

AND NATURALLY, THE SCHOOLS WERE ASKING FOR MORE FUNDING FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS, INCLUDING TEACHER COMPENSATION.

THE 88TH SESSION, ONLY ROUGHLY 15% OF THE BILLS PASSED, AND THAT WAS SIMILAR TO THE 87TH SESSION.

HOWEVER, THERE WERE A LOT MORE BILLS IN THE 88TH SESSION THAN IN THE 87TH SESSION.

THE GENERAL LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES DIFFERED DEPENDING ON WHETHER IT WAS THE GOVERNOR, THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, THE LEGISLATURE ITSELF, OR SCHOOLS.

ULTIMATELY, SOME OF THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES WERE CUTTING PROPERTY TAXES, INCLUDING THE COMPRESSION OF SCHOOL DISTRICT TAX RATES, EXPANDING SCHOOL CHOICE VOUCHERS AND ESA'S, SCHOOL SAFETY, PARENTS RIGHTS, TEACHERS RIGHTS AND COMPENSATION, AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND ASSESSMENTS.

IN THE REGULAR SESSION, THERE WAS NO PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION THAT PASSED.

IT DID EVENTUALLY PASS IN SPECIAL SESSION.

THERE WAS NO VOUCHER BILLS THAT PASSED, AND THERE WAS NO COMPREHENSIVE SCHOOL FINANCE REFORM OR TEACHER SALARY INCREASE.

AFTER THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION CLOSED, THE GOVERNOR CALLED A FIRST SPECIAL SESSION AND IT ENDED UP HAVING FOUR DIFFERENT SPECIAL SESSIONS, ONE FROM MAY 29TH TO JUNE 27TH, WHERE THEY DEALT WITH PROPERTY TAXES BUT NO BILLS WERE PASSED.

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THEN IN THE THIRD AND FOURTH SPECIAL SESSIONS, THEY DISCUSSED VOUCHERS.

AND NO BILL ACTUALLY PASSED IN, THROUGH BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE ON VOUCHERS, BUT BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR WAS TYING SCHOOL FUNDING TO THE SUCCESSFUL PASSAGE OF ESA AND VOUCHERS, NO SCHOOL FUNDING BILLS PASSED EITHER.

SO WHAT WAS THE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF? THIS CAME FROM SENATE BILL TWO THREE AND HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION TWO.

IT PUT 12.6 TO 12.7 BILLION OF THE STATE'S BUDGET SURPLUS, OF THAT $32 BILLION SURPLUS TOWARD MAKING CUTS TO SCHOOL TAXES FOR ALL PROPERTY OWNERS.

AND, THE BILLS COMPRESS SCHOOL DISTRICT TAX RATES BY AN AVERAGE OF 10.7 CENTS, INCLUDING YOUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION TAX.

IT INCREASED THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FROM 40,000 TO $100,000, AND IT PROHIBITED SCHOOLS THAT HAVE AN OPTIONAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IN TAX YEAR 2022 FROM REPEALING OR REDUCING THAT EXEMPTION UNTIL 2028, AND IT INCLUDED SPECIFIC PROVISIONS THAT TO HOLD HARMLESS PROVISIONS WITH RESPECT TO M&O AND I&S TAXES.

IT CAPPED NON-HOMESTEAD PROPERTIES, SO COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AND OTHER THINGS WITH AN APPRAISAL VALUE OF $5 MILLION OF LESS THAN 20% FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. BUT THIS IS ONLY A THREE YEAR PILOT PROGRAM.

IT PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL CUTS FOR SENIORS AND PROPERTY OWNERS WITH DISABILITIES, AND IT INCREASED CURRENT FRANCHISE TAX ELIGIBILITY FROM 1 MILLION TO ALMOST $2.5 MILLION.

THE HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION TWO AUTHORIZED A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ELECTION IN NOVEMBER TO ALLOW FOR THE PROVISIONS OF SENATE BILL 2 TO BE IMPLEMENTED, AND THOSE WERE VOTED ON AT THE BALLOT BOX IN NOVEMBER.

IN THIS PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, HOWEVER, THERE IS NO NEW FUNDING TO SCHOOLS.

SO WHAT NEVER PASSED VOUCHERS, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES OF THE DISTRICT AND THAT DID NOT PASS.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, COMPREHENSIVE SCHOOL FINANCE DIDN'T PASS.

AND THAT WAS RELATED TO HB 100, WHICH WOULD HAVE INCLUDED INCREASES TO THE BASIC ALLOTMENT, IMPROVEMENTS TO SPECIAL EDUCATION, FUNDED AN UPDATED AND MODIFIED MINIMUM TEACHER SALARY SCHEDULE, SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THE TEACHER INCENTIVE ALLOTMENT TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR OUR HIGHLY QUALIFIED TEACHERS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS.

THERE WERE ALSO SOME OTHER SIGNIFICANT BILLS THAT NEVER PASSED.

THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF THEM, BUT SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES RELATE TO STUDENT TRANSFERS.

THERE WERE BILLS THAT WOULD HAVE PROHIBITED DISTRICTS FROM DENYING STUDENT TRANSFERS BETWEEN CAMPUSES AND DISTRICTS.

THERE WERE ALSO BILLS THAT WOULD HAVE RESTRICTED USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS BY POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS FOR LOBBYING ACTIVITIES.

THAT WHICH MEANS THAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS COULDN'T HIRE LOBBYISTS TO ACTUALLY ADVOCATE FOR THE PUBLIC SCHOOL'S INTERESTS, AND BOND ELECTIONS THAT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED THE BOND ELECTIONS TO BE HELD IN NOVEMBER, AND IT WOULD HAVE PROHIBITED DISTRICTS FROM PAYING OFF BONDS EARLY.

SO FOR PURPOSES OF YOUR INTEREST, THOSE BILLS DID NOT PASS.

AND SO THERE'S NOTHING IMPACTING THE TRANSFERS, LOBBYING OR BOND ELECTIONS FROM THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN THAT REGARD.

SO WHAT ACTUAL LEGISLATION DID PASS? FIRST, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY BILLS AND BECAUSE THIS IS FEBRUARY OF 20 OR JANUARY OF 2024, AFTER A LOT OF THESE WENT INTO EFFECT IN JUNE OF 23 OR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE 23-24 SCHOOL YEAR, YOU HAVE ALREADY, YOU AND YOUR ADMINISTRATION HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED AND IMPLEMENTED MANY OF THESE BILLS, AND MANY OF THE BOARD POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO BE ADOPTED HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED.

SO A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS DEFINITELY NOT NEW AND IS NOT SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE.

AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PIECES OF LEGISLATION IMPACTING SCHOOLS FROM THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION WAS HB THREE, WHICH DEALT WITH SECURITY, INCLUDING ARMED SECURITY GUARDS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS EITHER AN UNFUNDED OR UNDERFUNDED MANDATE FROM THE LEGISLATURE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR ALMOST ANY SCHOOL DISTRICT TO BE ABLE TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS.

BUT HB THREE DID STATE THAT AT LEAST ONE ARMED SECURITY GUARD MUST BE AT EVERY CAMPUS DURING REGULAR HOURS, AND THE NUMBER OF HOW MANY ARMED SECURITY GUARDS AND EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE DETERMINED BY GOOD, BY THE BOARD.

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BUT THEY MUST PRESENT AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN.

AND REALLY, FOR ANY SCHOOL DISTRICT OF ANY SIZE WHATSOEVER, THE COST OF PUTTING ONE SECURITY ARMED SECURITY GUARD AT EVERY CAMPUS IS ASTRONOMICAL, PARTICULARLY WHEN THERE IS NOT ASSOCIATED FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO COVER THOSE COSTS.

I DO KNOW, AND I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD FROM YOUR SECURITY PERSONNEL OR ADMINISTRATION THAT DALLAS ISD HAS BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS AND OTHER WAYS TO DEAL WITH ALTERNATIVE ARRANGEMENTS WITH RESPECT TO THIS.

NOW, THERE WAS AN INCREASED SAFETY ALLOTMENT TO $10 PER AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE AND PROVIDED $15,000 PER CAMPUS FOR SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT, BUT THAT DOESN'T BEGIN TO COVER THE COST OF THE ARMED SECURITY PERSONNEL.

HB 3 REQUIRED STAFF MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING FOR STAFF WHO REGULARLY INTERACT WITH STUDENTS, AND IT ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE REQUIRED USE OF BOND PROCEEDS TO DEAL WITH SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS BEFORE USED FOR OTHER AUTHORIZED PURPOSES.

HB 3 WENT INTO EFFECT IN SEPTEMBER 1ST OF 2023.

THERE ARE ALSO OTHER PROVISIONS OF HB 3 THAT ARE RELEVANT BOTH TO YOUR FACILITIES AND CONSTRUCTION PERSONNEL AND OTHER PARTS OF YOUR ADMINISTRATION, BUT BECAUSE IT REQUIRES VARIOUS THINGS WITH RESPECT TO HOW FACILITIES ARE CONSTRUCTED AND MAINTAINED, INCLUDING AUDITS THAT MUST BE DONE WITH RESPECT TO THOSE SAFETY AND SECURITY FACILITIES.

THERE'S A LOT IN THAT BILL, BUT THOSE WERE THE KEY POINTS FROM THE BILL.

AND YOUR ADMINISTRATION IS PROBABLY EFFECTUATING THE REMAINDER WITH RESPECT TO THE PARTICULAR DETAILS OF FACILITY CHANGES AND REQUIREMENTS.

THERE WAS ANOTHER SAFETY BILL THAT DOESN'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL THE BEGINNING OF THE 25-26 SCHOOL YEAR, AND THAT IS A PANIC ALERT DEVICE.

AND THAT WAS FROM SENATE BILL 838.

AND DISTRICTS AND CHARTER SCHOOLS MUST PROVIDE SILENT, PANIC ALERT TECHNOLOGY IN ALL CLASSROOMS. AND THIS IS, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, A RESPONSE TO ACTIVE SHOOTINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED AT TEXAS PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO TRY TO BE ABLE TO GET SECURITY PERSONNEL AND OTHER EMERGENCY SERVICES PERSONNEL TO SCHOOLS, IF NECESSARY, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

THERE ARE ALSO SOME TECHNOLOGY RELATED SCHOOL SAFETY ITEMS THAT CAME UP EFFECTIVE IN JUNE, OR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE 23-24 SCHOOL YEAR.

I THINK EVERYONE MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THE TIKTOK BAN ON CERTAIN DEVICES OWNED BY THE DISTRICT.

BUT THERE WAS ALSO ONE WITH RESPECT TO ADOPTING RULES GIVING PARENTS A ROLE IN THE STUDENT USE OF DEVICES AND THE TEA WAS GOING IS DEVELOPING STANDARDS FOR PERMISSIBLE DEVICES AND SOFTWARE THAT WILL BE GOVERNED BY HB 18.

THE MENTAL HEALTH BILL.

WITH RESPECT TO CHAPLAINS AND SCHOOLS.

I KNOW THE DISTRICT HAS THE BOARD HAS ALREADY VOTED.

SINCE THAT LEGISLATIVE REQUIREMENT WAS PERMISSIVE AND NOT MANDATORY, AND GAVE BOARDS THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHETHER TO ADOPT A POLICY AUTHORIZING THE EMPLOYMENT OF CHAPLAINS AS COUNSELORS.

AND I KNOW DALLAS ISD HAS ALREADY VOTED AND DECIDED NOT TO, HAVE THAT DISCRETIONARY REQUIREMENT.

THERE WERE ALSO SOME HEALTH MEASURES WITH RESPECT TO COVID.

WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVELY PRESCRIBED NOW BAN ON REQUIRING MASKS OR VACCINES FOR COVID 19, AND IT PROHIBITS GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES FROM ORDERING CLOSURE OF PRIVATE BUSINESSES OR SCHOOLS TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF COVID 19.

AND THAT WAS EFFECTIVE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS SCHOOL YEAR.

THERE'S ALSO VARIOUS, BILLS THAT DEAL WITH OPIOID AND THE OPIOID CRISIS IN THE COUNTRY.

BY JANUARY OF 2024, SCHOOLS WERE REQUIRED TO DEVELOP POLICIES AND TRAINING ABOUT ADMINISTERING OPIOID ANTAGONISTS AT GRADES 6 THROUGH 12 CAMPUSES.

FENTANYL AWARENESS MONTH IS IS GOING TO BE OCTOBER OF EVERY YEAR, AND HB 3908 REQUIRES DISTRICTS TO PROVIDE ANNUAL RESEARCH BASED INSTRUCTION RELATED TO FENTANYL ABUSE PREVENTION AND POISONING TO STUDENTS IN GRADES SIX THROUGH 12.

IT ALSO ADDS DUTIES TO YOUR SCHOOL HEALTH ADVISORY COUNCIL TO RECOMMEND CURRICULUM REGARDING THE DANGERS OF OPIOIDS, INCLUDING FENTANYL.

THERE ARE SOME OTHER SCHOOL HEALTH AND SAFETY BILLS THAT CAME ABOUT, MOST OF THEM RELATED TO OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SECURITY ISSUES THAT HAVE A TANGENTIAL RELATIONSHIP TO SCHOOLS, INCLUDING MISSING CHILDREN AND MISSING PERSONS, AND TIMELY NOTIFICATION.

IT REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING SIGNS THAT HAD TO BE PLACED IN GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS.

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ONE OF THE IMPORTANT, PIECES OF LEGISLATION RELATES TO YOUR BACKGROUND CHECKS OF OF CONTRACTORS, BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE DPS, BACKGROUND CHECK BEING ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE.

SO IT PUTS MORE IT REESTABLISHES A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR CONTRACTOR AND SCHOOL DISTRICT RELATIONSHIP REGARDING THE CONDUCTING OF BACKGROUND CHECKS, AS WELL AS THE MANAGEMENT AND TREATMENT OF SEIZURES AT SCHOOLS.

THOSE ARE PRETTY IN THE WEEDS, SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THOSE.

PARENTS RIGHTS WAS ANOTHER MAJOR ISSUE.

AND PROBABLY THE MOST, SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF PARENTS RIGHTS LEGISLATION THAT IS, IS SOMEWHAT CONTROVERSIAL.

AND I DO HAVE BREAKING NEWS ON THAT IS THE READER ACT, THE LIBRARY MATERIALS ACT FROM HB 900.

AND THIS REQUIRED THE TEXAS LIBRARY AND ARCHIVES COMMISSION TO DEVELOP STANDARDS FOR THE SCHOOL LIBRARY COLLECTION, TO BE DEVELOPED BY JANUARY 1ST. IT REQUIRED SCHOOL LIBRARY VENDORS, VENDORS THAT PROVIDE BOOKS FOR SCHOOL LIBRARIES TO RATE BOOKS AS SEXUALLY EXPLICIT OR SEXUALLY RELEVANT BY APRIL 1ST OF THIS YEAR.

SO IT WAS A MANDATED REQUIREMENT FOR VENDORS.

AND THEN WITH RESPECT TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THERE WOULD BE NO SEXUALLY EXPLICIT MATERIALS, AS THE LEGISLATURE HAS DEFINED THAT TERM.

AND THE DISTRICT CANNOT BUY FROM VENDORS WHO HAVE NOT ISSUED RATINGS FOR SEXUALLY EXPLICIT MATERIAL.

AND THEN WITH RESPECT TO SEXUALLY RELEVANT AS OPPOSED TO SEXUALLY EXPLICIT MATERIAL, A STUDENT CAN'T CHECK OUT SEXUALLY RELEVANT MATERIALS WITHOUT PARENT PERMISSION, AND THERE MUST BE A SCHOOL REVIEW OF SEXUALLY RELEVANT MATERIALS EVERY TWO YEARS TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE JANUARY 1ST, 2025, AND EVERY ODD NUMBERED YEAR AFTER THAT.

AND A SCHOOL MUST REPORT PUBLISH A REPORT REGARDING SEXUALLY RELEVANT MATERIAL ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WEBSITE OR AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING, AND THESE RULES APPLY TO CLASSROOM LIBRARIES.

HOWEVER, IN BOOK PEOPLE INC VERSUS WONG, A COURT CASE WENT TO WESTERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS, WHERE A VENDOR CHALLENGED THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THAT.

THE VENDOR PROVISIONS, JUST THE VENDOR PROVISIONS OF THE READER ACT, AND THE FIFTH AND THE DISTRICT COURT ENJOINED THE THAT LEGISLATION WITH RESPECT TO THE VENDORS, AND IT WAS APPEALED TO THE FIFTH CIRCUIT.

VERY RECENTLY, THE FIFTH CIRCUIT AFFIRMED THAT INJUNCTION.

WHAT THE FIFTH CIRCUIT FOUND IS BECAUSE IT'S REQUIRING VENDORS.

THEY SAID IT'S COMPELLING SPEECH IN VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT BY VENDORS TO MAKE THEM AND COMPEL THEM TO DESCRIBE THINGS AS SEXUALLY EXPLICIT OR SEXUALLY RELEVANT. AND WHILE IT'S ONLY THE VENDOR PROVISION THAT'S BEEN CHALLENGED AS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, IF THERE IS A INJUNCTION ENJOINING THE VENDORS FROM HAVING TO DESIGNATE MATERIALS AS SEXUALLY EXPLICIT OR SEXUALLY RELEVANT, A SCHOOL DISTRICT REALLY CAN'T MAKE THE TERMINATIONS BASED UPON THOSE THE BASED UPON THOSE DESIGNATIONS BY THE VENDOR.

THEREFORE, THIS CASE WHICH HAS THE INJUNCTION HAS BEEN AFFIRMED IN PART AND RETURNED BACK TO THE DISTRICT COURT FOR FURTHER PROCEEDINGS.

MEANS IT'S VERY HARD TO EFFECTUATE THOSE, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE, FOR A SCHOOL DISTRICT TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF THE READER ACT UNTIL IT PROCEEDS THROUGH THE COURT, AND THERE'S A FINAL DETERMINATION.

AND I WILL BE HONEST, THAT JUST CAME DOWN AND I HAVE NOT READ THE FIFTH CIRCUIT OPINION EXCEPT SKIMMING IT.

SO, THEN THE OTHER THING WITH PARENT PARENTAL RIGHTS RELATES TO BEHAVIORAL THREAT ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE CONDUCTED AT THE SCHOOL. A CAMPUS, HAS TO NOTIFY A PARENT BEFORE CONDUCTING A THREAT ASSESSMENT, GIVE THE PARENT AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ASSESSMENT, EITHER IN PERSON OR REMOTELY, AND SUBMIT INFORMATION TO THE TEAM ABOUT THE STUDENT.

AND IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT WHAT THE HOW THEY MUST KEEP THE PARENT INVOLVED THROUGHOUT THE THREAT ASSESSMENT PROCESS, INCLUDING THE INFORMATION THAT THEY MUST PROVIDE TO THE THREAT TO THE PARENTS REGARDING THE THREAT ASSESSMENT PROCESS AND FINDINGS, AND THAT APPLIED BEGINNING AT THIS SCHOOL YEAR.

ONE KIND OF ANCILLARY BILL TO THIS WAS SENATE BILL 1720 THAT STATES THAT AN EMPLOYEE WHO ACTUALLY REPORTS A POTENTIAL THREAT MAY ELECT TO KEEP THEIR IDENTITY CONFIDENTIAL AND NOT SUBJECT TO PUBLIC DISCLOSURE EXCEPT TO THE EXTENT NEEDED FOR THE TEAM, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR

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SO IT DOES PROVIDE A MEASURE OF CONFIDENTIALITY FOR DISTRICT EMPLOYEES TO HELP ENCOURAGE, REPORTS OF ANY FEARS OF THREATS OF THREATS.

THERE WERE SOME PROVISIONS WITH RESPECT TO PARENTS RIGHTS AS IT RELATES TO RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS, BECAUSE BOARDS MUST PROVIDE FOR ALTERNATIVE ASSESSMENT DATES FOR STUDENTS THAT ARE ABSENT TO OBSERVE A RELIGIOUS HOLY DAY OR OBSERVANCE, AND PARENT NOTES SHOULD BE ACCEPTABLE FOR DOCUMENTING EXCUSED ABSENCES FROM SCHOOL FOR A RELIGIOUS HOLIDAY OBSERVANCE.

THERE WERE PROVISIONS ADDED FOR PARENT REVIEW OF CURRICULUM, BUT WHAT TRIGGERS THAT REVIEW IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL.

THE BOARD MUST CONDUCT A REVIEW OF INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS IF ONE OR MORE PARENT REQUESTS THE REVIEW AND THE DISTRICT AGREES.

IF 20 OR IF 25 TO 50% OF PARENTS OF ENROLLED STUDENTS REQUEST THE REVIEW AND THE REQUIRED BOARD VOTE AGREES TO CONDUCT IT, OR YOU CAN BE KIND OF COMPELLED TO DO SO AT A DISTRICT IS IF MORE THAN 50% OF THE PARENTS OF ENROLLED STUDENTS REQUEST A CURRICULUM REVIEW.

SO IT DOES PROVIDE A PROCESS, BUT THE STANDARD IS PRETTY HIGH FOR REQUIRED CURRICULUM REVIEW.

THERE WERE SOME OTHER PARENTS RIGHTS DECISIONS WITH RESPECT TO TRANSFERS.

I'M SORRY, COULD I JUST ASK A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE LAST SLIDE? SURE. IT DOES SOUND LIKE A HIGH STANDARD, EXCEPT THAT FIRST BULLET POINT THAT SAID ONE OR MORE PARENT REQUESTS AND THE DISTRICT AGREES. YES.

OKAY. SO THE DISTRICT WOULD HAVE TO AGREE THAT THE GOING THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS.

YES. OKAY. IT WAS IT'S JUST NOT ONE PARENT BEING ABLE TO TRIGGER THE ENTIRE REVIEW.

CORRECT. IF THE PARENT RAISES AN ISSUE AND THE ONE PARENT RAISES AN ISSUE IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SAYS, YES, THIS IS AN ISSUE, YES, WE SHOULD DO A REVIEW THEN THAT ONE PARENT COULD TRIGGER, BUT THE DISTRICT WOULD HAVE TO AGREE.

A SINGLE PARENT COULD NOT TRIGGER A CURRICULUM.

THE FORMAL REVIEW BUT THE CORRECT THE DISTRICT WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IT WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE FULL BLOWN.

CORRECT. OKAY. SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

THANK YOU.

THERE WERE SOME, ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO TRANSFERS OF CHILDREN OF SERVICE MEMBERS IN PEACE OFFICERS.

AND THEY CAN REQUEST A MANDATORY TRANSFER TO ANOTHER CAMPUS OR DISTRICT WITH WHOM THE DISTRICT HAS AN INTERDISTRICT TRANSFER AGREEMENT.

THERE WERE SOME ALLOTMENTS FOR CAREER INVESTIGATION DAY ABSENCES.

AND THERE WERE ALSO A BILL WITH RESPECT TO SEXUALLY ORIENTED PERFORMANCES THAT JUST IMPACTS THE VIDEOS AND MOVIES YOU CAN PLAY IN THE CLASSROOM.

IT'S NOT.

IT'S OF MINIMAL IMPACT.

THERE WERE SOME STUDENT ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO STUDENT DISCIPLINE FOR VAPE DEVICES AND MARIJUANA.

POSSESSION OF E-CIGARETTES, WHICH IS ANY VAPE DEVICE, IS NOW A MANDATORY DAEP PLACEMENT.

BUT FELONY POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA, THC OR ALCOHOL IS NO LONGER A MANDATORY EXPULSION, AND THIS IS EFFECTIVE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR, SEPTEMBER 2024. THEN IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT SOME VARIOUS WAYS DAEP PLACEMENT COULD BE AFFECTED BY POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA, THC, OR ALCOHOL. IF DAEP IS ALREADY AT CAPACITY AT THE TIME, A STUDENT NEEDS TO BE PLACED INTO DAEP FOR THESE PURPOSES, THE DISTRICT MUST PLACE THE STUDENT IN ISS AND MOVE THE STUDENT TO DAEP WHEN SPACE BECOMES AVAILABLE.

AND THEN IF THE DISTRICT NEEDS TO PLACE A STUDENT IN DAEP FOR CERTAIN VIOLENT CONDUCT AND DAEP IS AT CAPACITY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT MAY REMOVE THE STUDENT WHO HAS BEEN PLACED THERE BECAUSE OF POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA, THC OR ALCOHOL TO ISS AND THEN MOVE THEM BACK TO DAEP WHEN SPACE BECOMES AVAILABLE.

THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES AND REQUIREMENTS TO HAZING POLICIES AND HARASSMENT POLICIES, BUT THEY'RE VERY MINOR.

REPORTS OF HAZING CAN BE ORAL.

NOW THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE IN WRITING.

AND WITH RESPECT TO HARASSMENT, THEY EXPANDED THE DEFINITION TO INCLUDE CONDUCT THAT'S CONDUCTED BY BURNER PHONES.

SO, ONE OF THE FINAL ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO STUDENTS ISSUES WAS THE STUDENT DRESS CODE, WHERE THE LEGISLATURE ACTUALLY ADOPTED THE CROWN ACT, WHICH SIMPLY PUTS INTO LEGISLATION WHAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN DETERMINED BY A COURT THAT PROHIBITS ANY STUDENT DRESS OR GROOMING POLICIES, INCLUDING FOR EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES.

AND IT PROHIBITS FROM DISCRIMINATION AGAINST A HAIR TEXTURE OR HAIRSTYLE COMMONLY OR HISTORICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH RACE, AND THAT WAS EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER OF 2023. WITH RESPECT TO EMPLOYEES.

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OF COURSE WE IT WAS VOTED IN NOVEMBER.

THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT WAS MADE FOR RETIRED TEACHERS, AND A ONE TIME 13TH CHECK WAS GIVEN TO CERTAIN RETIRED TEACHERS.

TRS IS NOW TO PROVIDE DENTAL AND VISION INSURANCE TO RETIREES AT AN ADDITIONAL COST.

AND ONE OF THE TEACHERS THING THAT WE PUT IN THE EMPLOYEES TEACHER'S RIGHTS ALSO IMPACTS ONE OF YOUR GOALS, WHICH IS HIGH QUALITY INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS, AND THAT IS HB 1605, WHICH TALKS ABOUT OPEN RESOURCES AND HIGH QUALITY INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS.

AND THIS IS WHERE TEA IS TO DEVELOP LESSON PLANS FOR USE BY TEACHERS AND TO CREATE AN OPEN RESOURCE INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIAL PROGRAM FOR TEACHER AND DISTRICT USE.

HOWEVER, THE COMMISSIONER IS NOT ALLOWED TO REQUIRE THE DISTRICT TO USE THOSE OPEN RESOURCE MATERIALS.

SO ONCE AGAIN, USE OF THOSE MATERIALS IS DISCRETIONARY BY THE DISTRICT AND CANNOT BE COMPELLED OR REQUIRED BY THE COMMISSIONER.

EMPLOYEES. THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO EMPLOYEES AND SUPPLEMENTAL DUTY AGREEMENTS REGARDING INITIAL LESSON PLAN DESIGN AND INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIAL SELECTION.

THE DISTRICT CAN ENTER INTO A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH THE TEACHER IF THE TEACHER AGREES TO PERFORM ANY DUTY RELATING TO INITIAL LESSON PLAN DESIGN, OR INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIAL SELECTION.

THAT IS NOT A DUTY THAT'S GENERALLY GOING TO BE PERFORMED DURING THE INSTRUCTIONAL DAY, OR ASSIGN TO ALL CLASSROOM TEACHERS OF THE SAME SUBJECT OR GRADE LEVEL UNDER THOSE TEACHERS EMPLOYMENT CONTRACTS.

SO IF IT DOESN'T MEET THOSE CRITERIA, THE DISTRICT CAN ENTER INTO A SUPPLEMENTAL DUTY AGREEMENT WITH THE TEACHER.

BUT YOU CANNOT REQUIRE A TEACHER FOR A FOUNDATIONAL CURRICULUM COURSE TO SPEND.

PLANNING AND PREPARATION TIME CREATING OR SELECTING INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS TO INITIALLY COVER THE APPLICABLE TEACHERS FOR THE COURSE, UNLESS THE TEACHER HAS ENTERED INTO THAT SUPPLEMENTAL DUTY AGREEMENT, AND THAT GOES INTO EFFECT NEXT SEPTEMBER.

SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE DISTRICT NEEDS TO CONSIDER, THEN YOU'LL HAVE.

I'M SURE YOUR HCM IS LOOKING INTO ANY NECESSARY SUPPLEMENTAL DUTY AGREEMENTS AND ARRANGEMENTS THAT ARE DEALT WITH UNDER THE REQUIREMENTS OF HOUSE BILL 1605 AND I THINK EVERYONE HAS HEARD ABOUT THE CHANGES FOR TEMPORARY TEACHING CERTIFICATES TO HONORABLY DISCHARGE A RETIRED U.S.

ARMED FORCES PERSONNEL AND FIRST RESPONDERS, AND THEY MAY SUBSTITUTE THEIR SERVICE FOR DEGREE REQUIREMENTS.

THERE'S ALSO ADDITIONAL LEAVE FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES PERSONNEL THAT WAS PLACED IN HB 471, AND THE AMOUNT OF LEAVE SHOULD BE COMMENSURATE WITH THE NATURE OF THE LINE OF DUTY, INJURY OR ILLNESS, AND IT SHOULD BE AT LEAST ONE YEAR, IF NECESSARY, THAT THE DISTRICT SHOULD PROVIDE, AND THERE'S OPENNESS TO EXTEND IT ANOTHER YEAR. SO THAT IS IT.

AS IT RELATES TO MILITARY AND EMERGENCY SERVICES PERSONNEL, A FEW OTHER MINOR THINGS.

THERE WAS A REVOCATION OF SBEC CERTIFICATION FOR DISPLAY OF HARMFUL MATERIALS, THE SCHOOL COUNSELOR BILL, WHICH MEETS THE CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.

YOU CANNOT REQUIRE CLASSROOM TEACHER EXPERIENCE EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2023, AND THE SCHOOL CANNOT PROHIBIT TEACHERS FROM DISPLAYING THE NATIONAL MOTTO IN GOD WE TRUST. SIGNS THAT COMPLY WITH PRIOR LAW BEGINNING THIS SCHOOL YEAR.

THERE'S QUITE A FEW BILLS WITH RESPECT TO SPECIAL EDUCATION.

MOST OF THEM ARE NOT BOARD, BUT ARE BEING DEALT WITH BY YOUR SPECIAL EDUCATION PERSONNEL.

YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE PACKET, AND I'M GOING TO, KIND OF GO QUICKLY THROUGH THIS.

ONE THING TO NOTE IS DYSLEXIA IS HAS BEEN FOUND TO BE AN EXAMPLE OF AND MEETS THE DEFINITION OF A SIGNIFICANT LEARNING DISABILITY UNDER THE IDEA.

WHICH EXPAND SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO WITH RESPECT TO IDEA COMPLIANCE FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS.

AND YOUR SCHOOL BOARD MUST ADOPT AND IMPLEMENT A POLICY THAT REQUIRES THE DISTRICT TO COMPLY WITH ALL RULES AND STANDARDS ADOPTED BY THE TEA INCLUDING THE DYSLEXIA HANDBOOK AND GUIDANCE PUBLISHED BY PUBLISHED BY THE COMMISSIONER.

THERE WERE QUITE A FEW OTHER SPECIAL EDUCATION BILLS THIS SESSION BUT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WITH RESPECT TO SPECIAL EDUCATION ACTUALLY OCCURRED OUTSIDE THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

AND THAT'S THE SCHOOL MEDICAID FUNDING.

AND THIS SHOULDN'T BE A SURPRISE TO ANYONE, BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNEW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN SOONER OR LATER.

AND THIS IS BECAUSE IN 2017, AN AUDIT FOUND THAT TEXAS HAD BEEN OVERCHARGING, OR OVER CODING AND IMPROPERLY CODING THINGS AS

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AND AS A RESULT OF A CHANGE IN A PROPER CODING AFTER THERE WERE NUMEROUS APPEALS, TEXAS SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO RECEIVE ABOUT $300 MILLION LESS A YEAR FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN SCHOOL MEDICAID FUNDING.

AND FOR DALLAS ISD, THE IMPACT WILL BE OF $11.7 MILLION ANNUALLY IN LESS FUND FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITH RESPECT TO SCHOOL MEDICAID FUNDING.

TRUSTEES. THAT'S THE SECTION OF THE PREVIOUS, WORKSHOP THAT YOU SAW [INAUDIBLE] THAT OUR CFO PRESENTED.

THAT'S THE 11.7 OR ALMOST 12 MILLION THAT WE'LL HAVE IN LESS OF REVENUE.

AND WITH RESPECT TO ACCOUNTABILITY.

THIS WAS A THERE ARE SOME PAPER TESTING.

IT ALLOWS UP TO 3% OF STUDENTS IN A DISTRICT TO TAKE STATE ASSESSMENTS IN PAPER FORMAT AT A PARENT'S REQUEST.

BUT THAT CAP DOESN'T INCLUDE, INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED TO TAKE A PAPER TEST BASED ON DETERMINATIONS OF AN ARD THAT'S EFFECTIVE THIS SCHOOL YEAR. IT ALSO REQUIRES, THERE'S AN ACCELERATED INSTRUCTION BILL THAT REQUIRES AT LEAST 15 HOURS OF ACCELERATED INSTRUCTION FOR STUDENTS WHO DO NOT ACHIEVE SATISFACTORY PERFORMANCE ON STATE ASSESSMENTS, OR AT LEAST 30 HOURS FOR STUDENTS PERFORMING SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW SATISFACTORY.

ANOTHER ISSUE THAT AROSE DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS WERE ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO ACCOUNTABILITY RATINGS, AND THERE WERE VARIOUS PROPOSALS THAT WERE DISCUSSED, PARTICULARLY IN THE THIRD AND FOURTH LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS.

AFTER THE A TO F ACCOUNTABILITY LAWSUIT WAS FILED AGAINST THE COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATION, BUT NO BILLS WERE PASSED FOR PURPOSES OF ACCOUNTABILITY RATINGS.

WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW IS TEA'S ACCOUNTABILITY MANUAL THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE APPLICABLE FOR, 2022 2023 RATINGS WAS PUBLISHED OR POSTED ON OCTOBER 31ST, 2023.

AND JUST LAST WEEK, TEA POSTED A 2023 ACCOUNTABILITY MANUAL ADDENDUM TO REPLACE A CHART REGARDING CAMPUS STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT DOMAIN CALCULATION.

SO THEY UPDATED, THE ACCOUNTABILITY MANUAL ONCE AGAIN, BUT IT'S JUST A BRIEF CHART.

THE A-F ACCOUNTABILITY LAWSUIT FILED BY SCHOOL DISTRICTS AGAINST THE COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATION REMAINS A PENDING AND IS ON APPEAL AT THE THIRD COURT OF APPEALS AT AUSTIN.

CURRENTLY, THE COMMISSIONER IS ENJOINED FROM ISSUING A TO F RATINGS BASED ON THE 2223 SCHOOL YEAR.

THERE'S A LOT OF THERE ARE SOME OPEN GOVERNMENT ISSUES, NOT TOO SIGNIFICANT.

YOUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER AND LEGAL SERVICES ARE AWARE OF THE SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS TO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT, INCLUDING HOW BUSINESS DAYS ARE CALCULATED AND VARIOUS REQUIREMENTS FOR SUBMITTING AND RESPONDING TO THE AG OPINION AND CERTAIN CHANGES TO WHAT MUST AND CAN BE WITHHELD FROM DISCLOSURE.

AND YOUR BUSINESS AND CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENTS ARE LIKELY AWARE OF A LITANY OF CONSTRUCTION RELATED BILLS, INCLUDING PRE-SUIT NOTICE OF CONSTRUCTION CLAIMS. BEFORE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SUE EITHER A SCHOOL DISTRICT OR A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.

ONE THING THAT MAY IMPACT BOARDS IS THE CHANGE ORDERS AND THE RIGHTS NOT TO PROCEED.

IF A CHANGE ORDER IS DIRECTED, THAT'S GREATER THAN 10% OF THE SCOPE OF THE WORK.

THE CONTRACTOR DOESN'T HAVE TO DO IT UNTIL THE BOARD HAS ACTUALLY APPROVED THE CHANGE ORDER AND SOME VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS WITH RESPECT TO PERMITTING AND LEASING PROPERTY.

THAT'S PROBABLY DEALT WITH, BY, YOUR FACILITIES AND CONSTRUCTION AND BUSINESS DEPARTMENTS.

THERE WAS THERE'S SOME BILLS WITH RESPECT TO CHARTER SCHOOLS, WITH RESPECT TO EQUAL TREATMENT OF CHARTER SCHOOLS, AS IT RELATES TO ZONING, LICENSING FEES, PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

BUT CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE STILL NOT CONSIDERED AN ISD FOR PURPOSES OF COLLECTION OF IMPACT FEES OR AND THEY STILL DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO USE EMINENT DOMAIN. BUT A CHARTER SCHOOL MAY NOW PROVIDE NOTICE OF THE EXPANSION OR OPENING UP TO 36 MONTHS BEFORE THE ANTICIPATED CAMPUS EXPANSION OR OPENING.

AND I TRIED TO GO QUICKLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT WE SAW AS LEGISLATIVE UPDATE?

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WE HAVE TWO MORE AGENDA ITEMS. NEXT IS THE TEAM BUILDING.

SO WE'LL ASK KATHY AND KAY.

YOU'LL JOIN US AT THE FRONT.

AND THEN, AFTER THAT, WE HAVE.

[INAUDIBLE] THANKS.

[INAUDIBLE].

[INAUDIBLE] JUST IN CASE YOU FORGOT.

I'M SENDING YOU BACK YOUR OWN FORMS. [INAUDIBLE] . SO I CAN PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT AND THEN WE CAN BEGIN THAT WORK FOR YOU.

SO THIS IS PART OF OUR MANDATORY TRAINING.

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WE HAVE THIS BOARD WORKSHOP.

AND THEN WE HAVE THIS TEAM BUILDING ACTIVITY.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE FACE PRESENTATION.

I'M GLAD WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS, ACTUALLY.

PART OF OUR JOB AS THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS TO SIT IN THE ROLE OF GOVERNANCE ON THE DISTRICT.

BUT WE'RE REALLY THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN GOVERN OURSELVES AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE RIGHT THINGS.

SO MY HOPE IS THAT THROUGH THIS, WE BECOME A BETTER BOARD.

AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

WE HAVE TWO GREAT TRAINERS.

I'M SURE MOST OF YOU HAVE SAT THROUGH, ONE OR MORE OF YOUR TRAINING.

SO WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO COME DOWN HERE AND JOIN US TOGETHER AS A TEAM AND HELP US BECOME A BETTER BOARD.

SO I MISS THAT BOARD.

A TEAM OF TEN BOARD PLUS SUPERINTENDENT.

EXCUSE ME. SO WHY DON'T YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? THEY KNOW ME. [INAUDIBLE]. DON'T WE HAVE SOME NEW ONES? OH, I'M KAY DOUGLAS.

I'M WITH TASB.

I WAS A BOARD MEMBER FOR 16 YEARS IN HUNTSVILLE, SO I'VE DONE MY TIME.

AND IF I COULD SURVIVE IT, YOU CAN TOO.

AND I'M KATHY MINCBERG.

I'VE BEEN FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE CENTER FOR REFORM OF SCHOOL SYSTEMS. JUST RECENTLY, WE HAVE CLOSED THE CENTER AND TURNED OVER ALL THE CONTENT TO THE HOLDSWORTH FOUNDATION IN AUSTIN.

AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO ADD BOARD MEMBERS TO THEIR TRAINING, OUTLOOK OR STRATEGY? BECAUSE IF BOARDS DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, THEN WHAT GOOD DOES IT DO TO HAVE A SUPERINTENDENT OR PRINCIPALS WHO ARE WELL TRAINED IN THINGS THAT BOARDS MAY NOT EVEN BE ACQUAINTED WITH? SO WE'RE THRILLED.

THAT MEANS THE CONTENT WILL GET TO LIVE FOREVER, AND YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE IT.

THEY ARE GOING TO BRING BACK THE SUMMER INSTITUTE NEXT SUMMER, WHICH WILL BE GREAT.

WE IN THE SUMMER INSTITUTE'S FRESHMAN AND SOPHOMORE BOARD MEMBERS AND BASICALLY BOARD MEMBERS WHO'VE NEVER BEEN BEFORE HAVE A CHANCE TO GO.

THIS WILL PROBABLY BE IN AUSTIN, SINCE THEY NOW OWN A FACILITY THERE AND A CHANCE TO STUDY WITH 25 TO 40 OF YOUR COLLEAGUES FROM ACROSS THE STATE.

IT'S OVER A WEEKEND.

IT'S A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE.

CONNECTS YOU WITH AROUND THE STATE.

PLUS REALLY HELPS YOU THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS YOUR ROLE.

HOW ARE YOU DOING IT? HOW DOES IT WORK? WHAT ARE THE LEVERS OF CHANGE TO PULL.

SO IT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.

SO WE THANK YOU FOR HAVING US BACK.

YOU HAVE BEEN VERY NICE TO FILL OUT A SURVEY.

THERE'S NO MAGIC TO THIS.

THE MAGIC IS THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE FROM THIS POINT ON.

AND SO I'M BETWEEN KAY AND MYSELF.

WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF BOUNCE BACK WITH OUR THOUGHTS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.

FEEL FREE TO NOT SPEAK IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO ADD ON SOMETHING, OR IF YOU WANT TO CLARIFY WHY YOU'VE CHOSEN A PARTICULAR ANSWER, THAT'S FINE TOO. EVERYONE FILL THIS OUT EXCEPT ONE PERSON, AND EVERY NOW AND THEN SOMEBODY SKIPPED A QUESTION.

SO THE NUMBERS DON'T ALWAYS EQUAL NINE PEOPLE.

BUT THE PERSON WHO DIDN'T FILL IT OUT, FEEL FREE TO ADD IN AS WE GO ALONG.

I'LL MARK IT IN HERE.

THE ONLY WAY TO DO THIS IS JUST SORT OF START WITH NUMBER ONE AND WE'LL GIVE SOME OBSERVATIONS.

FOR EXAMPLE, IN NUMBER ONE, ONE PERSON SELECTED NOT PRESENT, ONE PERSON SELECTED PARTLY PRESENT, AND SEVEN SELECTED FULLY PRESENT, WHICH SAYS TO ME THAT MOST OF THE BOARD AGREE THAT BOARD MEMBERS VIEW ALL CHILDREN AS ACHIEVING AT HIGH LEVELS THEIR THAT IS THEIR PRIORITY.

SO YOU HAVE A PRETTY GOOD UNDERSTANDING ON THE BOARD OF THAT CONCEPT.

AND YOU ALL AGREE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES OF OPINION, AND FEEL FREE TO RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO TALK ABOUT THOSE.

OR WE CAN SAY THERE'S PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT AND WE CAN MOVE ON.

SO YOU GUYS STOP ME OR I'LL JUST TALK ALL THIS TIME AND WHICH PROBABLY WON'T BE AS HELPFUL TO YOU.

SO NUMBER TWO, THE BOARD HAS APPROVED CORE BELIEFS AND COMMITMENTS FOR STUDENT HIGH STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT.

I'VE GOT SEVEN, TWO PARTIES AND SEVEN FOLLIES.

SO AGAIN, THERE'S PRETTY GOOD UNDERSTANDING AMONGST THE BOARD THAT THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON, THAT YOU GUYS ARE SETTING BIG DIRECTION AND YOU'RE FOCUSED ON STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT.

ANY THOUGHTS OR DISAGREEMENT? NUMBER THREE, THE BOARD HAS STATED CLEAR THEORY OF ACTION THAT PROVIDES THE OVERARCHING STRATEGY FOR ACHIEVING ITS GOALS AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE NEW BOARD

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OH YES. OKAY.

TO EDUCATION.

A THEORY OF ACTION IS YOU GOT TO, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.

NOW, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN? AND THAT'S YOUR THEORY OF ACTION.

I'VE GOT THREE PARTIES AND SIX FULLY.

SO THEY'RE NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE THEORY OF ACTION IS.

NOT EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

ANY THOUGHTS? OKAY, I HAVE.

PLEASE. I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT.

OKAY. I FEEL.

I FEEL THAT, SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD SO LONG THAT THEY AUTOMATICALLY JUST GEL, AND BECAUSE OF THE EXPERIENCE, THEY AUTOMATICALLY KNOW.

OR THEY MAY THINK THEY KNOW, OR THEY HAVE AN IDEAL OF WHAT THEY FEEL THE DIRECTION WE SHOULD BE GOING.

BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE, IT'S NOT CONVEYED.

WHEN IT COMES TO I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE.

I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF.

I JUST FEEL LIKE IT WASN'T IT WASN'T REALLY CONVEYED AS FAR AS, HOW WE WERE GOING TO OBTAIN, SOME OF THE GOALS AND WHERE WE WANTED TO GET TO. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, WE HAVE A HUGE STAFF AND THEY BRING THINGS TO US.

BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN WE GET THE BUDGET, IT'S BASICALLY ALREADY DONE.

WE'RE JUST LOOKING OVER IT AND SAYING, OKAY, YES, WE APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE, BUT, I JUST FEEL LIKE EVEN THE TRAINING, SOME OF THE TRAINING THAT I WENT THROUGH WITH TASB, A LOT OF THE INFORMATION WASN'T PROVIDED THAT NEW BOARD MEMBERS, SHOULD HAVE HAD.

AND. YEAH.

THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

LET ME JUST ADD BECAUSE THAT'S A GOOD OBSERVATION IF THAT'S HOW YOU'RE EXPERIENCING IT, THAT ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT BOARDS ACTUALLY DO OTHER THAN PASS TAX RATES AND BUY PROPERTY.

AND THIS IS NEW, THIS IS NOT THE WAY IT USED TO BE, AND THAT IS THAT YOU SET THE BIG DIRECTION OF THE DISTRICT AND YOU SET THE BIG GOALS.

A THEORY OF ACTION IS NOW WE'VE GOT A GOAL.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO TURN THAT IN AND MAKE IT ACTUALLY HAPPEN? HOW DO WE TURN IT INTO ACTION AND THAT SHOULD BE CLEAR BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT CLEAR TO YOU, THEN MAYBE IT'S NOT CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL.

SO I THINK THAT'S A WORTHY DISCUSSION TO VISIT WHEN YOU GET TO THE SESSION THAT YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR GOALS AND WHAT KIND OF METRICS YOU'RE GOING TO USE TO MEASURE THEM AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO HOLD THE ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE, AND WHAT DO THEY THINK IS POSSIBLE, AND HOW DO YOU HOLD YOURSELF ACCOUNTABLE? OKAY. AND THAT IS EXACTLY, MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT AS FAR AS, LIKE I SAID, A HUGE STAFF, THEY BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, BRING THINGS.

BUT AS A BOARD, I DON'T FEEL WE DISCUSS HOW WE'RE GOING TO, HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.

YES. WHEN YOU SAY PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE, WHAT PEOPLE DO YOU MEAN OTHER BOARD MEMBERS? STAFF? YEAH.

WELL. WELL, YEAH, DEFINITELY.

WE SHOULD PROBABLY HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE.

BUT STAFF. BECAUSE IF SOMEONE COMES AND THEY SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THIS IS WHERE OUR NUMBERS ARE.

THIS IS WHERE MY FOCUS IS TO GET OUR NUMBERS.

BUT, YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE A CLEAR NOW I HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW, YOU KNOW, I FEEL IT SHOULD BE, BUT IT'S NOT COMMUNICATED AS FAR AS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT DONE.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE ANALOGY WHEN YOU'RE ASKED, I THINK WHEN ONE IN THE PSYCHOLOGY BOOKS WHERE YOU'RE ASKED TO BUILD A SWING AND WHEN YOU SEE ONE PICTURE AND SOMEBODY ELSE HAS A TOTAL DIFFERENT CONCEPT OF HOW THE SWING ACTUALLY LOOKS.

SO WHEN YOU SEE THE PICTURE, IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM JUST TWO STRAIGHT, YOU KNOW, CHAINS OR ROPE AND A SEAT TO SIT ON.

SO YEAH. RIGHT.

WELL THAT IS THE ONUS ON THE IS ON THE BOARD TO SAY I WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN SETTING THE BIG DIRECTION, SETTING THE GOALS AND DETERMINING HOW YOU MEASURE THOSE GOALS.

IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A GOAL, BUT IF YOU CAN'T SAY WE'RE GOING TO MEASURE IT, THEN YOU REALLY HAVE NO WAY OF HOLDING ANYBODY ACCOUNTABLE.

AND THAT'S THE MOMENT IN WHICH YOU SHOULD RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO HOLD THE ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE? AND USUALLY WE ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO TELL US WHAT DO THEY THINK THEY CAN GET DONE IN THIS GOAL, BECAUSE THERE'S NO NEED TO GIVE THEM A FOOLISH GOAL THAT THEY CAN NEVER REACH. SO IT'S A DIALOG.

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AND WITH REFERENCE TO HOLDING THE STAFF ACCOUNTABLE, THE BOARD ONLY HAS ONE EMPLOYEE AND SHE'S SITTING RIGHT THERE.

THE OTHER EMPLOYEES ARE HER EMPLOYEES, THE DISTRICT'S EMPLOYEES.

SO THE QUESTION BECOMES MISS SUPERINTENDENT, HOW CAN WE HAVE INFORMATION? WHEN WILL WE GET INFORMATION ABOUT THIS GOAL? HOW WILL WE KNOW IF IT'S BEEN MET? SO IT'S NOT AS THOUGH YOU'RE HOLDING THE HUGE STAFF ACCOUNTABLE.

YOU'RE HOLDING YOUR ONE EMPLOYEE ACCOUNTABLE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

GOOD QUESTION.

SO I'LL JUST ADD ON TO THAT.

AND I'M ONE WHO PUT FULLY PRESENT FOR EACH OF THESE.

BUT I DO THINK IT'S REALLY INTERESTING, SEEING A TIGHTER ALIGNMENT OF ONE, ONE AND SEVEN, THEN KIND OF GETTING FURTHER AND FURTHER FROM IT, LIKE ONE, TWO AND 7 OR 2, TWO AND SEVEN, AND NOW THREE AND SIX AS WE GET MORE AND MORE CONCRETE, WHICH IS INTERESTING. I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK, AT LEAST IN MY EXPERIENCE TO TRUSTEE WHITE'S POINT, YOU KNOW, TAKING FOR GRANTED THAT I'VE BEEN HERE FOR FOUR YEARS NOW, AND SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES FOR FAR LONGER HAVE SAT THROUGH THE GOAL PROCESS.

AND WE'RE COMING VERY CLOSELY.

I MEAN, IT'S IN OUR LOCAL, THE GOALS AND THE GUARDRAILS, THE SPECIFICS ON HOW WE MEASURE IT.

WE HAVE A EVERY MONTH WE MONITOR PROGRESS TO AT LEAST ONE OF THEM.

THE THEORY OF ACTION IS IN THERE.

BUT IT'S TRUE THAT THIS BOARD IS COMING UP ON A TIME WHEN OUR GOALS WILL EXPIRE.

YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH THE COMMUNITY TO RESET THOSE GOALS AND SAY WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE, WHAT NEEDS TO STAY THE SAME AND GO FORWARD THAT I THINK THIS CONVERSATION HIGHLIGHTS.

AND ESPECIALLY WITH THAT, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THEN SET THE GOALS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

EXACTLY. I SERVED ON THE HOUSTON SCHOOL BOARD FOR 14 YEARS.

WE NEVER SET A GOAL.

THAT WAS NO DISCUSSION OF GOALS.

SUPERINTENDENT JUST BROUGHT STUFF TO THE BOARD AND WE VOTED ON IT.

SO YOU'RE IN A VERY DIFFERENT SPACE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE LEGISLATURE EXPECTS, WHAT YOU CAN DO, WHERE YOUR REAL POWER LIES.

AND IT'S SETTING THOSE BIG GOALS AND THE METRICS TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.

SO GOOD QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. SO I HAVE A COMMENT.

SO WHEN I JOINED THE BOARD, MY ORIENTATION CONSISTED OF ME SITTING IN A ROOM WITH LIKE ALL THE CHIEFS AND A BINDER.

I THINK THE BEST TRAINING I WENT TO WAS ACTUALLY THE SANTA FE TRAINING.

I THINK THE ORGANIZATION YOU DESCRIBED GAVE US.

SO, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS TO YOU ALL USING, YOU KNOW, THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE IS WHAT DO OTHER BOARDS DO FOR NEW TRUSTEES IN REGARDS TO GOALS OR WHAT THE THEORY OF ACTION IS THAT A DISTRICT RESPONSIBILITY TO TRAIN INCOMING TRUSTEES OR MAKE THEM AWARE OF WHAT THE CURRENT GOALS WITH THE CURRENT BOARDS.

ABSOLUTELY. OR IS THAT A THE BOARD SHOULD BE ORGANIZING? WELL, SOME PLACES THE BOARD ORGANIZES TO IN-SERVICE A NEW TRUSTEE ON WHAT THEY THINK YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT HOW THE BOARD OPERATES WHEN WE MEET, HOW DO YOU GET SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA? WHAT'S SORT OF THE COMMON COURTESY ABOUT? HOW WE ADDRESS EACH OTHER AND WHAT ARE THE GOALS OF THE DISTRICT? HOW DID WE SET THEM? WHEN DID WE DO IT? THEN THERE'S THE ADMINISTRATION, WHO'S GOING TO TALK A LOT ABOUT KIND OF HOW WE'RE SET UP TO GET THE WORK DONE.

BUT IF YOU DON'T COVER GOALS, THEY SHOULD COVER IT.

IT SHOULD BE THE TOP OF THE LIST FOR WHOMEVER IS DOING AN IN AN ORIENTATION FOR NEW BOARD MEMBERS.

BUT EVERY DISTRICT DOES IT DIFFERENTLY.

THEY'RE USED TO ACTUALLY BE NO STATUTE THAT TALKED ABOUT NEW, TRUSTEE ORIENTATION AT ALL, AND NOW IT'S ACTUALLY DELINEATED.

BUT EVERY DISTRICT DOES IT DIFFERENTLY.

FOR SOME DISTRICTS, IT'S JUST YOU AND THE CHIEFS.

FOR SOME DISTRICTS, IT'S THE ENTIRE BOARD.

SOMETIMES IT'S THE BOARD SUPERINTENDENT AND THE NEW TRUSTEES.

EVERY DISTRICT GETS TO DO IT DIFFERENTLY.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S THERE'S AN ADVANTAGE FOR SITTING TRUSTEES, A COUPLE WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, GETTING INTO TOO MANY PEOPLE PRESENT SITTING DOWN BECAUSE THEN AS A NEW BOARD MEMBER, YOU HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS.

I DIDN'T HAVE ANY ORIENTATION THE FIRST THING I DO, KNEW, I WAS SITTING HERE AND THERE WERE CAMERA LIGHTS ON AND I'M A NEW TRUSTEE.

I HAD NO IDEA WHAT I DID OR WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

SO ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO EASE THEIR WAY IN REMEMBERING YOUR OWN EXPERIENCES? SUPER HELPFUL.

I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A NEW TRUSTEE IF SOMEBODY TELLS YOU, OH, OUR THEORY OF ACTION IS WE'RE MANAGED CONSTRUCTION WITH EARNED EMPOWERMENT, THOSE WORDS DON'T MEAN ANYTHING.

CORRECT. RIGHT. UNLESS YOU KNOW THE CONTEXT IN WHICH THEY'RE PLACED.

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WELL. SO BEFORE YOU CAN TELL THEM THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TELL THEM WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS AND SEND THEM TO THE SUMMER INSTITUTE, WHICH WILL HELP A LOT. HELP A LOT.

LET'S LOOK AT NUMBER FOUR.

THE BOARD ALL ANNUALLY EVALUATES A SUPERINTENDENT BASED ON THOSE GOALS AND THE PERFORMANCE OF THE DISTRICT.

I HAVE ONE NOT PRESENT AND SEVEN FULLY PRESENT.

SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THE NEXT TIME YOU'RE IN THAT SPACE TO CALL ATTENTION TO IT AND SAY, THIS IS THE MOMENT WHEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE GOALS AND WE'RE GOING TO JUDGE HOW WELL WE DID WITH THEM.

YEAH. AND I WOULD JUST ADD, I MEAN, AND I KNOW THIS BECAUSE WE SAT ON THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE FOR THOSE WHO DID, BUT THE BOARD ADOPTED SOMETHING.

AND 88% OF OUR EVALUATION IS DIRECTLY TIED TO THE GOALS AND THE, SORRY, 83% GOALS AND THE CONSTRAINTS.

EXCELLENT. TEXAS.

SO 60% OF THAT IS GOALS.

SO, THAT'S AN INTERESTING ONE THAT WE HAVE A NOT PRESENT.

SO FIVE THE BOARD MONITORS THE DISTRICT STRATEGIC PLAN, ENSURES THAT THE PLAN AND THE SUPERINTENDENT'S EVALUATION INSTRUMENT ARE ALIGNED.

SO THE POINT BEING WE SHOULD BE EVALUATING THE SUPERINTENDENT BASED ON THE PERFORMANCE OF THE DISTRICT THAT WE HAVE MUTUALLY AGREED UPON.

AND IT HAS TO BE MUTUAL, BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN GET TO THE GOALS THAT YOU'RE SETTING.

SO I'VE GOT ONE NOT PRESENT, ONE PARTLY AND SEVEN FULLY PRESENT.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.

AS A NEW TRUSTEE, I PUT PARTLY BECAUSE STRATEGIC PLAN TO ME IS KIND OF A LITERAL PERSON, LIKE THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THE STRATEGIC PLAN MEAN THEORY OF ACTION.

DO WE HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN? THEORY OF ACTION IS JUST ONE OF THE MOVING PIECES INSIDE A STRATEGIC PLAN.

OKAY. AND THEN SO I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I WAS THE PARTLY PRESENT PERSON, BECAUSE I WAS VERY LITERAL AND DIDN'T.

SO NO PROBLEM.

BUT, THERE SHOULD BE A STRATEGIC PLAN.

SOMETIMES THEY'RE SUPER DETAILED AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE PRETTY GENERAL.

IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU ALL NEED TO DO AND HOW YOU OPERATE.

THE PANDEMIC THREW A HUGE MONKEY WRENCH IN ALL OF THAT.

SO WELL ARE THE ACTUAL GOALS.

I MEAN, IS THAT THROUGH? IS THAT == IS THE PLAN IS THE GOALS YOU SET? THE PLAN IS THE SUPERINTENDENT'S GAME PLAN ON HOW TO MAKE REACH THOSE GOALS.

SO IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT YOU CAN SEE PROBABLY POSTED ON YOUR WEBSITE, BUT IT BELONGS TO THE SUPERINTENDENT.

OKAY, SO JUST ONE LAST QUESTION THEN WHERE DO THE WHERE DO THE PRIORITIES FIT, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR BUDGET CONVERSATION, WHICH ARE PRIORITIES.

IS THAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN? I PERSONALLY WOULD PUT IT IN AS A GOAL THAT YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ABOUT BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

AND THEN UNDERNEATH THAT YOU WOULD SAY, OKAY, WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES AND HOW DO THEY FIT WITH THE REST OF THOSE GOALS FISCALLY? THAT'S A CONSTRAINT. SO WE JUST HAVE A LOT I GUESS IT'S TERMS OF ART THAT I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S WHAT.

SO I THINK ANYWAY, TO YOUR POINT, STRATEGIC PLAN I THINK WE GENERALLY HAVE ONE.

I JUST NOT SURE WHAT WE CALL IT I DON'T KNOW.

DO YOU HAVE ONE.

YEAH. WELL, WE HAVE THE DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

OKAY. THAT WE WOULD ALIGN.

AND THEN FROM THERE, OF COURSE, THEN CAMPUSES CREATE THEIR IMPROVEMENT PLANS.

BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO REITERATE I MEAN I'M TAKING NOTES.

THIS IS LEARNING FOR ME IN TERMS OF LIKE WHAT ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO PRESENT IN THAT ARE CONNECTING THOSE DOTS? BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE HAVE DOTS OUT THERE, BUT I'M NOT DOING A GOOD ENOUGH JOB OF LIKE BRINGING THIS IS THIS.

AND HERE'S HOW THEY'RE CONNECTED.

NOW LET'S HAVE CONVERSATION AROUND THAT SO THAT YEAH, I MEAN IT'S A HIERARCHY AND THE STATE HAS MADE IT CLEARER AND CLEARER.

IT USED TO NOT BE CLEAR AT ALL.

YOU JUST EVALUATED THE SUPERINTENDENT.

SO NOW THE STATE HAS SAID THE BOARD OWNS SETTING THOSE BIG DIRECTIONS.

AND IF YOU'RE SMART YOU'LL PUT METRICS IN THERE SO YOU'LL KNOW WHETHER OR NOT YOU ACHIEVE THOSE BIG DIRECTIONS.

AND THEN YOU HAND IT OFF TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, WHO THEN GOES AND DEVELOPS A PLAN.

AND AT THE END, YOU EVALUATE THE SUPERINTENDENT BASED ON HOW WELL THE SUPERINTENDENT AND ADMINISTRATION REACHED THE METRICS SET IN.

THE PLAN IS THAT.

PARDON? CAN YOU PUNCH YOUR BUTTON? THAT INFORM THE GOALS THAT WE SET ABOVE THE STRATEGIC PLAN? EXACTLY. AND THE CLEARER YOU CAN BE WITH IT, THE BETTER IT IS FOR THE STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GO DO.

WE'VE DECIDED EVERY CHILD SHOULD PLAY A CLASSICAL INSTRUMENT.

OKAY, NOW WE GET TO TALK TO THE COMMUNITY.

DO THEY LIKE THAT IDEA? DO THEY THINK THAT'LL MAKE A DIFFERENCE?

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I DON'T COME BACK WITH SOME SOMETHING ELSE.

OKAY. NUMBER SIX, THE BOARD HAS ADOPTED A COMPREHENSIVE AND ALIGNED DISTRICT CURRICULUM AND MONITORS ITS SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATION.

ONE NOT PRESENT AND EIGHT FULLY PRESENT.

SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY IF SOMEONE BELIEVES THAT THEY DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ALIGNED TO HAVE A SIT DOWN, BECAUSE MY IMPRESSION IS YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON CURRICULUM.

ARE YOU ALIGNED VERTICALLY AND HORIZONTALLY? BOTH. AND THAT MAY NOT MEAN ANYTHING TO A NEW BOARD MEMBER, BUT IT'S SOMETHING YOU WILL GET TO HEAR ABOUT WHEN YOU SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THE CURRICULUM.

AND KATHY, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AS A NEW BOARD MEMBER, NOT PRESENT COULD MEAN THE BOARD COULD BE DOING THIS.

I JUST DON'T KNOW IT.

CORRECT. RIGHT. OKAY. CORRECT.

THAT WASN'T ME.

YEAH. THEN YOU'RE RIGHT WHERE YOU SHOULD BE.

OKAY. NUMBER SEVEN, THE BOARD MONITORS STUDENT PERFORMANCE DATA BY GRADE AND SCHOOL, AND IT'S BEEN DISAGGREGATED BY RACE AND SOCIOECONOMIC BACKGROUND AND SPECIAL ED AND LANGUAGE.

SO ONE PARTLY AND EIGHT FULLY PRESENT.

SO YOU GUYS ARE CLEARLY DISAGGREGATING DATA AND THE BOARD IS SEEING IT.

ANY DISAGREEMENT WITH THAT.

WHAT WERE THE RESPONSES, AGAIN? I'M SORRY 8, FULLY PRESENT.

WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? ONE PARTLY GOT IT.

AND EIGHT FULLY NUMBER EIGHT, THE BOARD IS ACTIVE IN POLICY DEVELOPMENT, ENSURES THAT ITS REFORM POLICIES ARE CODIFIED IN A REFORM PRIORITIES ARE CODIFIED IN POLICY GOT FIVE PARTLY AND THREE FULLY.

SO THAT SAYS WE DON'T REALLY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK UP WHAT IS A SCHOOL BOARD DO, IT'LL TELL YOU THEY WRITE POLICY AND IT'S ACTUALLY NOT REALLY TRUE.

YOU ARE PROVIDING GUIDANCE FOR POLICY THAT'S OFTEN WRITTEN BY THE STAFF, BECAUSE WHEN BOARD MEMBERS WRITE POLICY, IT USUALLY GOES SIDEWAYS BECAUSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THE INTERCONNECTEDNESS AND YOU GET UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

BUT YOU ARE THE ORIGIN.

AND YOU CAN SAY TO THE STAFF, WHEN I WAS WORKED IN PORTLAND AS THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, THE BOARD SAID, WE WANT A WELLNESS POLICY. AND THEY STUDIED IT FOR A FULL YEAR.

THEY HAD COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THEY HAD STAFF, AND THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY WRITE IT, BUT THE STAFF DID, BUT THEY GAVE DIRECTION.

WE WANTED TO INCLUDE THIS, THIS AND THIS.

ONLY AFTER STUDYING WERE THEY ABLE TO GIVE SOME PARAMETERS ON WHAT THE WELLNESS POLICY SHOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND THEY HAVE ONE OF THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY BECAUSE THEY REALLY PUT SOME TIME AND ENERGY INTO IT.

AND SO THAT'S HOW BOARDS CONTRIBUTE TO POLICY WITHOUT PICKING UP A PENCIL.

YEAH, I'LL JUST NOTE I HAD DIFFICULTY MARKING THIS ONE, AND I PUT PARTLY PRESENT AND MAINLY BECAUSE FULLY PRESENT SAID THE BOARD SPENDS MOST OF ITS TIME DEVELOPING AND OVERSEEING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF POLICIES.

WHEREAS IN MY TAKE TO YOUR POINT AROUND IF WE'RE SPENDING MOST OF OUR TIME DEVELOPING POLICIES AND IMPLEMENTING POLICIES, THAT FEELS OFTENTIMES COUNTER BECAUSE, AS YOU NOTED, AND I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF WHEN I WRITE POLICIES, I'M NOT THE EXPERT, AND I START WRITING THINGS THAT ACTUALLY CONSTRAIN THE SUPERINTENDENT IN A WAY THAT I MIGHT NOT INTEND TO, BUT IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT HARDER TO DO THAT.

WHEREAS WHEN WE SPEND TIME AND WHEN I SPEND TIME ON MONITORING PROGRESS, ARE WE ACHIEVING OUR GOALS AND USING POLICY TO CLARIFY WHAT'S INBOUNDS AND WHAT'S OUT OF BOUNDS? THEN THAT'S WHERE I FEEL LIKE WE CAN HAVE THE HIGHEST LEVERAGE IN TERMS OF ARE WE MAKING PROGRESS TOWARDS OUR GOALS, YES OR NO? AND USING POLICY AS A USEFUL AND NECESSARY TOOL TO CLARIFY THAT AND POLICY MAY REQUIRE THAT YOU SPEND THE TIME AND ENERGY TO DO THAT.

AND SO BY DOING IT, YOU ARE ACTUALLY WORKING ON POLICY.

SORRY ABOUT THE WORD.

THE WORDSMITHING MAY BE A LITTLE CLUMSY, BUT YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

WHAT WE'RE REALLY SPENDING OUR TIME AND ENERGY DOING IS SAYING, HOW IS IT GOING? SO, THE DISTRICT HAS POLICIES AND THEY HAVE REGULATIONS.

REGULATIONS ARE NOT APPROVED BY THIS BOARD.

CORRECT? THEY ARE APPROVED BY THE ADMINISTRATION.

YES. AND SO THERE IS A SEPARATION.

AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT POLICY, YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE SEPARATION OF THE TWO.

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YES, NOT POLICY.

AND SO THERE HAS TO BE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING AND A CLEAR DELINEATION BETWEEN THE TWO.

AND AT ONE POINT, THE BOARD DID ALSO ADOPT REGULATION.

BUT THE BOARD BEFORE I GOT ON IT, MOVED FROM A REGULATION TO JUST POLICY AND ALLOWED THE ADMINISTRATION TO DO REGULATION, AND THEY OVERLAP.

THANK YOU. THAT'S A GOOD EXPLANATION.

AND IF THE BOARD ACTUALLY APPROVED REGULATIONS EVERY TIME YOU NEEDED TO CHANGE A REGULATION, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD, WHICH IS WHY WE DON'T RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD ACTUALLY OVERSEE REGULATIONS TIMES THERE IS A CONFLICT BETWEEN POLICY AND REGULATION THAT NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED. THE POLICY NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED BASED ON THE REGULATIONS.

SO WHILE YOU MIGHT NOT RECOMMEND IT, THERE IS ALSO THAT NEED FOR THE BOARD TO UNDERSTAND THE CHANGES IN REGULATION.

YES, EXACTLY.

NUMBER TEN, THE BOARD MAKES DECISIONS BASED ON RELEVANT DATA AND RESEARCH WE'RE ON.

OH SO SORRY. NUMBER NINE.

THE BOARD IS DILIGENT ABOUT MONITORING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ITS POLICIES TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE ACHIEVING THEIR OBJECTIVES.

THREE PARTIES AND SIX FOLEY'S.

THIS IS A FUNNY LINE.

WHEN YOU PUT AND YOU'RE GOING TO PASS A BUNCH OF POLICIES BECAUSE THE STATE CHANGED SOMETHING OR, YOU KNOW, LAWS CHANGED AND YOU JUST HAVE TO DO IT.

YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE BIG MEASURING MACHINE HERE TO DO STUFF THAT IS REALLY NOT PART OF THE BIG OVERARCHING STRATEGY OF THE DISTRICT THAT'S REALLY CHANGING ADULTS BEHAVIOR AND CHILDREN'S BEHAVIOR.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THIS, WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE VERY IMPORTANT POLICIES.

WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD IN HOUSTON, WE COMPLETELY CHANGED THE CURRICULUM.

IT WAS MASSIVE, $20 MILLION SPENT.

WE DIDN'T PUT IT IN POLICY.

WE GOT A NEW CAO AND IT WAS GONE IN FIVE MINUTES.

GONE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT POLICY DOES, IT SLOWS THINGS DOWN.

SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION BEFORE THINGS JUST DISAPPEAR.

SO THINK POLICY IS USEFUL IN MANY WAYS.

IT MAKES YOU THINK IT FORCES A CONVERSATION AS YOU DEVELOP THE POLICY.

AND WHEN SOMETHING COMES UP AGAINST THE POLICY, YOU GET TO HAVE MORE DEEP CONVERSATION.

HERE WE HAVE THREE PARTLY'S AND SIX FOLEY'S.

OKAY. NUMBER TEN.

THE BOARD MAKES DECISIONS BASED ON RELEVANT DATA AND RESEARCH.

THREE PARTLY'S AND SIX FOLEY'S.

SO ANYBODY WHO'S UNCERTAIN, IS THERE MORE DATA YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IN A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, EXPRESS IN A DIFFERENT WAY? THERE IS MORE DATA I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

BECAUSE, OF COURSE, BEING A BOARD AND OUR SIZE, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT IS THROWN AT US.

AND I AM OFTEN WONDERING, FIND MYSELF WONDERING, WHY ARE WE DOING DOING THIS? AND I AM GUILTY OF, ONE OF MY FELLOW TRUSTEES SAID SOMETHING AT ONE OF OUR LAST MEETINGS, AND I HAD TO STOP AND TAKE OWNERSHIP BECAUSE, THERE WERE SEVERAL FACTORS THAT THAT PUT ME IN THE MINDSET WHERE I WAS BECAUSE I FELT LIKE, I IF YOU ASK THE QUESTIONS AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, TO WHETHER IT'S, WHOMEVER AND YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE INFORMATION YOU NEED.

SO THERE ARE SOME BOARD MEMBERS WHO WANT TO SEE SUMMARY DATA, AND THERE ARE OTHERS.

I WAS ONE OF THOSE THAT WANTS TO SEE ALL THE BACKUP BEHIND IT.

I WANT TO DIG DOWN AND UNDERSTAND THE PERCENTAGES.

SO IF YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR PREFERENCE ON HOW YOU LIKE TO SEE DATA, TALK TO THE SUPERINTENDENT ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU COULD GET MORE, NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE ALL OF THAT.

IT WOULD DRIVE THEM NUTS.

SO YOU LET THE ADMINISTRATION KNOW HOW YOU LIKE TO GO, HOW DEEP YOU WANT TO GO.

AND LOOKING IT BACK UP TO THAT SUMMARY DATA.

OKAY. LET'S DO I WANTED TO I WAS ONE OF THE PARTLY PRESENTS.

I THINK BEING MADE A POINT TO THIS EARLIER, BUT, IT'S REALLY HELPFUL BEING TO MAKE DECISIONS, ESPECIALLY FINANCE WISE, AND KNOWING HOW IT TIES TO OUR

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THE MORE THAT IT'S CONNECTED TO WHAT OUR GOALS ARE, THE MORE HELPFUL IT IS FOR ME TO MAKE A DECISION, AND THE LESS, THEN IT MAKES IT MORE OF A GUESSING GAME.

WONDERFUL OBSERVATION.

AND SO MANY BOARD MEMBERS DO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THAT.

THEY VOTE ON THE BUDGET AND THEY HAVE GOALS AND THEY NEVER CONNECT THOSE DOTS.

AND SO WE'RE PUTTING OUR MONEY INTO THIS GOOFY THING OVER HERE.

AND THIS IS WHAT WE VALUE.

SO MAKING THAT CONNECTION REALLY IMPORTANT.

SO IT WAS A FEW QUESTIONS BEFORE.

SURE, BUT THEY'RE NOT PRESENT.

PARTLY PRESENT, FULLY PRESENT.

I THINK I PUT PARTLY PRESENT ON ONE OF THEM, BUT I DON'T.

THE WAY I READ SOME OF THIS IS LIKE PARTLY PRESENT WASN'T NECESSARILY A BAD THING.

GIVEN THE QUESTION.

RIGHT. SO, I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT IN. AND A LOT OF TIMES YOU'RE NOT PRESENT EITHER, BUT YOU'RE WORKING ON THINGS.

SO SOME OF THOSE ARE JUST MAYBE JUST DISAGREE WITH, IN THE SENSE LIKE, YES, WE'RE POLICY MAKERS OR APPROVERS OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO FRAME IT.

BUT AS A TRUSTEE, I DON'T THINK I ENVISIONED MY TIME SPENT MOST ON SITTING AND THINKING AND DRAFTING AND GOING TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND FIGURING OUT POLICY.

SO I THINK I WAS ONE OF THE PARTLY PRESIDENTS ON THAT ONE, TOO, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS A.

THE CONVERSATION I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.

I WANT TO KNOW WHY PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT INFORMS US BOARDS.

WE KNOW OUR COLLEAGUES A BIT BETTER AND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM, AS OPPOSED TO WHETHER THERE'S A RIGHT ANSWER OR A WRONG ANSWER IN THOSE THREE.

I'M ALSO CURIOUS AS TO WHY THERE'S A GAP CLEARLY ON THIS BOARD WHERE THERE'S SEVEN IN THE ONE, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT.

THERE'S OFTEN LIKE SEVEN AND THEN NON PRESENT SEVEN AND NON PRESENT.

SO THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING I'M CURIOUS ABOUT.

AND I THINK YOUR BABY BOARD MEMBER SAID THAT SOMETIMES AND I'M SORRY I CALLED NEW BOARD MEMBERS.

BABY BOARD MEMBERS.

IT'S AN ENDEARMENT.

BUT SHE WAS SAYING THAT ON SOME THINGS, SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER IT WAS HAPPENING OR NOT.

NOT THAT SHE WAS REALLY.

THERE WASN'T A SPACE FOR HER TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS IS HAPPENING.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO IT WASN'T THE GAP WASN'T BECAUSE SHE DISAGREED.

IT WAS BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T DOESN'T KNOW YET.

SO MAYBE WE ALL NEED TO DO BETTER AT ONBOARDING AND TRAINING AND ETC., BUT I TELL PEOPLE THAT IT TAKES A FULL TERM BEFORE YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

WHETHER YOU WERE AN ADMINISTRATOR, WHETHER YOU WERE A TEACHER, WHATEVER YOUR ROLE WAS, BECAUSE THERE REALLY IT'S DIFFERENT ON THAT SIDE OF THE DAIS.

SO EVEN IF YOU, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO TO HAVE A DRINK FROM A FIRE HOSE, THERE JUST SOME THINGS SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO SEE THE SEASONS OF.

WHEN DO WE SET GOALS, WHEN DO WE TALK ABOUT POLICIES, WHEN DO WE DO THAT.

SO IT'S NOT A FAILURE ON ANYBODY'S PART.

IT'S JUST THE WAY THINGS HAVE TO HAPPEN.

EVEN IF YOU GO TO THE WEEK, THE WEEKEND WITH HOLZWORTH, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED AS A NEW BOARD MEMBER.

SO IT'S NOT FAILURE.

IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T LEARN TO TIE YOUR SHOES WHEN YOU'RE AN INFANT UNLESS YOU'RE A GENIUS.

BUT MY GRANDSON.

YEAH. WELL, I STILL CAN'T TIE MY SHOES.

NUMBER 11, CAN WE STAY ON NUMBER TEN FOR JUST.

PLEASE? THE BOARD MAKES DECISIONS BASED ON RELEVANT RESEARCH AND DATA.

SOMETIMES. AND I'M THE NON-TURNING, BUT I'VE GOT MINE RIGHT HERE.

I ALREADY FEELTHAT.

OKAY. I PUT PARTLY PRESENT, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THERE ARE ITEMS PUT ON THE AGENDA THAT IS ONLY ON THE AGENDA FOR THAT ONE BOARD MEETING.

AND YOU'VE GOT TO RESPOND TO THAT.

THAT IS, WITHOUT RESEARCH OR DATA, THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES ITEMS ARE PUT ON THE AGENDA, THAT YOU HAVE TO ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON.

IT MIGHT COME TO THE BOARD BRIEFING AND THEN IT'S VOTED ON AT THE BOARD MEETING.

AND YOU'VE GOT TO ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THAT.

AND SOMETIMES THERE IS NOT THE DATA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

A SPECIFIC ITEM MIGHT BE THE SELLING OF A PROPERTY.

THAT YOU THAT IS BOUGHT TO THE BOARD, AND THE BOARD IS SUPPOSED TO VOTE ON THAT BASED ON, I'LL JUST USE A FOR INSTANCE, WHICH INFURIATED ME IN THE PAST WHEN WE, SOLD SOME PROPERTY.

IS THAT, THERE WAS ONLY THE PRICE WAS ONLY PUT BASED ON THE LAND, NOT ON THE STRUCTURE.

AND SO THE BOARD HAD TO MAKE A RUSH DECISION BASED ON THAT.

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SO THERE ARE TIMES WHEN DECISIONS ARE ASKED TO BE MADE THAT THE BOARD DOESN'T HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.

THE REAL KEY IS TRY TO GET YOUR QUESTION TO THE ADMINISTRATION AS SOON AS YOU SEE THE ITEM.

DON'T WAIT FOR THE REVIEW OR DON'T EVEN CLEARLY DON'T WAIT FOR THE BOARD MEETING BECAUSE THEN IT'LL BE TOO LATE.

WELL, THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT I'M PROBABLY THE ONE THAT ASKED THE MOST QUESTIONS, SO I DO GET MY ITEMS TO THEM.

RIGHT? BUT AT TIMES THERE IS NOT TIME TO GET ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT THERE ARE TIMES THAT WE DO NOT.

OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT.

NUMBER 11 BOARD MEETINGS ARE EFFICIENT.

[INAUDIBLE] I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF GO BACK TO JUSTIN'S POINT AND KIND OF TO THE CONVERSATION WE HAD ABOUT THE BUDGET, AND THIS IS MY FIRST CYCLE THROUGH.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, WITH THE PARTLY PRESENT ON, MAKING DATA BASED DECISIONS, I THINK THAT WE'RE HEADED TOWARD, WHICH I'M EXCITED ABOUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S HAPPENED BEFORE IS SORT OF TYING, LIKE JUSTIN SAID, SORT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE TO GOALS, BUT ALSO TO EFFICACIOUSNESS LIKE THE ROI CONVERSATION.

WHAT ARE WHAT IS THE RETURN ON WHAT WE ARE DOING SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND NOT ONLY WHAT IS IT TIE TO, BUT IS IT EFFICACIOUS OR NOT? SO JUST AS A PIECE OF THAT WILL REALLY HELP, I THINK FOR ME, WHO PARTLY PRESIDENT PRESENTED SOME OF THIS TO FULL CIRCLE, UNDERSTAND BETTER THE DISCUSSION OF AN ROI HAS BEEN IN THE PAST ANATHEMA.

YOU WOULD BE CURSED OUT.

EVERYBODY WOULD ASSUME YOU HATE CHILDREN.

SO THIS IS A NEW CONVERSATION THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING TO.

IF I'M GOING TO SPEND A MILLION HERE OR A MILLION THERE, WHICH 1 A.M.

I GOING TO GET MORE BENEFIT FOR MORE PEOPLE? THAT'S A NEW CONVERSATION THAT BOARD MEMBERS AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE HAVING, AND THEY'VE BEEN, LAMBASTED FOR DOING IT IN THE PAST.

SO YOU'RE KIND OF ON THE CUTTING EDGE WHEN YOU REALLY TALK ABOUT, ARE WE GETTING THE RETURN WE NEED FOR THIS KIND OF AN INVESTMENT? BUT I REALLY APPRECIATED HEARING THE SUPERINTENDENT SAY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOOK AT THE GENERAL ROI, BUT WHAT'S THE RETURN ON THIS PARTICULAR THING? BECAUSE THE RESEARCH SAYS WE SHOULD BE GETTING THIS, BUT WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT.

SO I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE HEADED IN THAT DIRECTION, BUT NOT THERE YET.

YEAH. IT'S A YOU KNOW, EDUCATORS DON'T NORMALLY THINK IN THOSE TERMS. SO YOU'RE KIND OF AT THE CUTTING EDGE TALKING ABOUT ROI'S NUMBER 11 BOARD MEETINGS ARE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE, FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT.

ONE NOT PRESENT, THREE PARTIES, FIVE FOLIES.

SO COULD THINGS BE IMPROVED? I WOULD JUST AS SOMEONE WHO SAID, PARTLY PRESENT.

THE REASON I DID THIS IS I THINK WE'VE DEFINITELY IMPROVED THIS SUBSTANTIALLY.

I GUESS MY GENERAL THOUGHT IS WE SHOULD SPEND THE MAJORITY OF TIME THAT WE MEET ON THE THINGS WE SAY THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT, SPECIFICALLY THESE GOALS.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE SPENDING A MAJORITY OF TIME JUST SIMPLY BY THE NUMBERS.

IF YOU WERE TO COUNT THE MINUTES THAT WE SPEND IN MEETINGS AND YOU WERE TO LOOK AT WHAT AMOUNT OF MINUTES ARE FOCUSED TALKING ABOUT HOW KIDS ARE DOING ON THESE GOALS OR THESE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE'VE SAID.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE QUITE THERE AT 50%, IF THAT'S WHAT WE SAID IS THE MAJORITY.

THAT'S NOT TO SAY THE OTHER THINGS AREN'T IMPORTANT.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF MY BAR AND HOW I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS AND THAT.

AS WE CONTINUE TO DEEPEN OUR FOCUS AND WE ALIGN OUR BUDGET TO THE ROI ON ITS IMPACT ON THIRD GRADE READING OR EARLY LEARNING OR COLLEGE CAREER READINESS OR WHATEVER THEY HAPPEN TO BE, THAT THAT CONTINUES TO GROW AND BECOME A CENTRAL PART OF THIS BOARD.

I THINK THERE ARE OTHER ASPECTS THAT THE BOARD HAS TO CONSIDER.

WE ARE HERE AS COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES, AND SO WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH COMMUNITY ISSUES AS THEY COME ABOUT.

AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS HAPPEN.

WE'RE HERE TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MONIES THAT WE SPEND.

THAT IS A PART OF THE REASON WE'RE ELECTED.

YES. THE SUPERINTENDENT CAN MAKE A MOVE ON THE MONEY WITHOUT US AND SO WE HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS AND CONSCIOUS OF THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES.

ALL OF THOSE TIE IN WITH OUR ULTIMATE GOAL OF TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT IS WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE.

BUT WE ALSO NEED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE DISPARITIES THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT AND I HAVE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IN TERMS OF EDUCATION OF CHILDREN, IN PARTICULAR BLACK CHILDREN IN THIS DISTRICT.

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I WANT TO SPEND TIME ON MAKING SURE THAT THOSE CHILDREN, ALONG WITH OTHER CHILDREN, OUR SPECIAL ED CHILDREN, OUR ESL CHILDREN, ALL OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO COME TO US WITH THESE SPECIAL PROBLEMS, WE AS A BOARD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE SPECIFIC ISSUES.

WE CAN WE. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS ITEM IS TALKING ABOUT.

WE CAN SPEND ALL OF OUR TIME WANTING TO TALK ABOUT, THE METRICS THAT WE PUT FORWARD.

BUT WE HAVE TO ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN BOARD MEETINGS AS WE GO FORWARD.

GOOD. BY THE WAY, YOU MIGHT CONSIDER HAVING SOMEONE TRACK YOU FOR A WHILE.

THEY PROBABLY ARE ALREADY.

BUT TO BE COGNIZANT OF IT AND TO REVIEW IT, OH, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT.

BUT ALL THOSE THINGS YOU WERE TALKING, BUT THOSE THINGS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ARE THE ISSUES THAT COUNT.

THEY ALL COUNT.

OKAY. NUMBER 12 BOARD MEMBERS REGULARLY ATTEND SCHEDULED BOARD MEETINGS AND BECOME INFORMED ABOUT THE ITEMS THEY'RE GOING TO PRESENT.

I HAVE TWO PARTIES AND SEVEN FOLIES.

NO THOUGHTS.

OKAY. NUMBER 13, BOARD MEMBERS TAKE NO PRIVATE ACTION THAT COMPROMISES THE BOARD OR DISTRICT AND RESPECT THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF WHAT IS PRIVILEGED UNDER LAW. AND THAT MEANS LIKE CLOSED SESSION.

GOT ONE NOT PRESENT FOR PARTIES FOUR FOLLIES.

SO THAT'S A PRETTY BIG 144.

THIS IS WHERE EVERYBODY BREAKS EYE CONTACT.

I DIDN'T.

AND THIS IS WHERE I WANT TO STRESS WITHOUT MENTIONING ANY NAMES AND NOT VOLUNTEERING, THAT YOU'RE THE PERSON.

HOW CAN THE BOARD.

FEEL MORE LIKE YOU ARE NOT COMPROMISING THE DISTRICT AND NOT REVEALING THINGS THAT ARE CONFIDENTIAL.

SO A FEW LIGHTS CAME ON.

TRUSTEES, I THINK YOU ALMOST SAID SOMETHING LAST TIME.

JUST GO AHEAD AND SPEAK.

JUST WHOEVER.

I'M NOT GOING TO CALL ON FOLKS.

WELL, I THINK IT'S GOTTEN, BETTER.

BUT WE STILL NEED TO WORK ON SOME THINGS.

AND I THINK IT'S MORE, I DON'T KNOW, HOW CAN YOU THAT'S A QUALITY THAT'S BASICALLY WITHIN YOURSELF.

I WOULD SAY I CAN'T GOVERN ANYONE BUT MYSELF.

BUT SO TRUE.

I DEFINITELY TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT I DO WHAT I KNOW, IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE HERE FOR THE CHILDREN.

AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN WE WHEN I THINK WE'RE GETTING OFF TOPIC OF THAT, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S I THINK WE'RE SPENDING MONEY HERE, WHAT WE COULD PUT IT IN THE CLASSROOM OR.

BUT THE THAT CONFIDENTIALITY PART.

YES. YEAH.

YEAH, YEAH.

WE NEED TO I THINK WE LIKE I SAID IT'S IMPROVED BUT WE STILL NEED TO DO SOME WORK ON IT.

AND THOSE HARD CONVERSATIONS ARE BEST.

HAD ONE ON ONE AND NOT OUT AT THE BOARD TABLE.

SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE VIOLATING CONFIDENTIALITY AND DON'T EVEN REALIZE IT.

AND ONE OF THE FUN PARTS ABOUT BEING THE BOARD PRESIDENT IS SOMETIMES YOU'RE THE ONE WHO GETS TO HAVE A PRIVATE CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY WHO SEEMS TO BE LIKE, A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA, TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN CLOSED SESSION.

YOU KNOW, YOU JUST A PRIVATE CONVERSATION IS THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THIS KIND OF STUFF.

SO I HAVE HAD SOME OF THESE CONVERSATIONS.

THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE IS THAT ONE TRUSTEE WHITE WHAT YOU SAID, LIKE WE ALL CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE KIDS IN THE DISTRICT AND THE 140,000 OR SO KIDS WE HAVE IN OUR DISTRICT.

I THINK WHEN THOSE THINGS HAPPEN, I THINK THE INTENT WAS ALWAYS GOOD.

LIKE, PEOPLE FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

THIS IS VOLUNTEER. YOU TALK ABOUT ATTENDING OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED BOARD MEETINGS LIKE WE DON'T GET PAID TO BE HERE, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WE SIGNED UP AND VOLUNTEERED TO DO BECAUSE WE LOVE OUR KIDS.

BUT JUST BEING REMINDED THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A BOARD OF NINE AND WHAT ONE PERSON SAYS WHEN THEY DO THIS IMPACTS ALL NINE OF US IN THE SUPERINTENDENT AND ALL THOSE

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SO, I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT.

BUT JUST BEING CONSTANTLY REMINDED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OUT THERE DOING WHAT WE DO.

WE'RE REALLY A BODY OF NINE, AND OTHER PEOPLE WILL BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED SOMETIMES BY SOME OF THAT.

SO JUST THAT'S THE, ONLY COMMENT I'D HAVE ON THAT, PARTICULAR ITEM AND JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS, LIKE THERE IS A TENSION BECAUSE WE ALL WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.

WE SAY WE WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT, BUT THERE'S THINGS THAT BY LAW YOU ARE PROHIBITED FROM REVEALING.

AND THEN THERE ARE THINGS THAT EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT PROHIBITED BY LAW, IT WILL NEEDLESSLY HURT THE DISTRICT.

IF YOU REVEAL IT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PERSONNEL ITEM, HOW DOES THAT STAFF MEMBER FEEL WHEN THEY HEAR SOMETHING THAT CAME OUT OF A BOARD DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, OUT ON THE STREET.

SO IT HELPS TO TO DEAL WITH THE LOYALTY OF STAFF AND STAFF, KNOWING THAT YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF THEM.

AND THE OTHER THING THAT I SEE IS WHEN I WAS ON BOARDS, IF SOMEONE ACTUALLY SAID SOMETHING THAT THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO SAY REVEALED SOMETHING AND EVERYBODY ELSE WAS WAS TRYING TO RESPECT THAT, YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU SAY, WELL, IF SHE'S GOING TO TELL EVERYTHING, WHY AM I BEING SO QUIET? SO IT KIND OF BECOMES LIKE A DOMINO EFFECT.

AS YOU SAID, EVERYTHING YOU DO AFFECTS ALL OF YOU.

SO WHEN I VIOLATED, I'M BASICALLY GIVING OTHER PEOPLE PERMISSION TO DO IT.

AND IF YOU'RE A BRAND NEW BOARD MEMBER COMES ON AND SEES THAT WE'RE NOT KEEPING THE CONFIDENTIALITY, SHE'S GOING TO GO, WELL THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT A REAL RULE.

SO IT'S JUST IT ALL WORKS TOGETHER.

AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES, AS YOU SAID, PEOPLE REVEAL THINGS THAT THEY DON'T EVEN REALIZE THEY'RE REVEALING.

BUT WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO IS AGREE TO HOLD EACH OTHER MUTUALLY ACCOUNTABLE.

AND YES, I KNOW YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS SUPPOSED TO GO AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BUT I SHOULD HAVE THE KIND OF RELATIONSHIP, OR I WOULD WANT THE KIND OF RELATIONSHIP WITH CAMILLE THAT IF CAMILLE SAW ME DO SOMETHING THAT WAS VIOLATING IT, SHE COULD SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I KNOW YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T MEAN THIS, BUT.

SO IT'S NOT ALL THE PRESIDENT AND GOD FORBID, IT MIGHT BE JUSTIN WHO'S DOING IT.

AND WE SHOULD HAVE THE KIND OF RELATIONSHIP WHERE YOU CAN GO AND SAY, WHEN YOU SAID THIS IS WHAT I THOUGHT, AND AGREE TO BE MUTUALLY HELD ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE I DON'T MIND HOLDING YOU ACCOUNTABLE.

BUT I HAVE TO AGREE TO HAVE YOU HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE.

AND YOU CANNOT IMAGINE HOW THAT CHANGES THE TENOR OF A BOARD AND THE TENOR OF A DISTRICT, AND THE TENOR OF A COMMUNITY.

IF WE AGREE TO BE ABLE TO, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL GOING TO MAKE MISTAKES.

THERE'S NOT ONE OF YOU UP THERE, NOT ONE OF US IN THIS ROOM, THAT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE A MISTAKE, BUT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO MY ATTENTION.

I'M SORRY. AND THIS IS HOW I'LL DO IT DIFFERENTLY.

MAKES A HUGE IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

EVEN IN A DISTRICT THIS LARGE [INAUDIBLE] ONE MORE THING? THE. I'M TRYING TO SPEAK, GENERAL, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION TO BE IN GENERAL THE, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DECISIONS WE MAKE THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT.

I THINK ONE IS HIRING THE SUPERINTENDENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF US WERE HERE AND, DOING STUFF LIKE THAT.

CAN I LIKE THE SUPERINTENDENT? I'M PRETTY TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT.

THINK SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB. I LIKE HER AS IT RELATES TO OUR STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS [INAUDIBLE] HAVE TO BE FRIENDS.

BUT YOU RISK GETTING A CERTAIN TYPE OF LEADER WHEN YOU DO THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

WE ENDED UP WHERE WE ARE.

THANKFULLY, WE COULD HAVE EASILY GONE ANOTHER DIRECTION.

BASED ON.

PLAYING AROUND WITH THAT NUMBER 13.

SO, I THINK IT'S JUST REALLY CRITICAL WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, THAT WE KNOW WE'RE IMPACTING THE WHOLE SYSTEM.

NOT ONLY THAT, YOU'RE ENCOURAGING BAD BEHAVIOR BY OTHERS.

I WATCHED HOUSTON GO THROUGH A SUPERINTENDENT.

THE BOARD WAS MISBEHAVING, SO THE SUPERINTENDENT JOINED IN AND STARTED OFFERING REWARDS AND PUNISHMENTS TO.

IT WAS A TERRIBLE SITUATION.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ONLY.

AS MY MOTHER SAID, THE ONLY PERSON'S BEHAVIOR YOU CAN CONTROL IS YOUR OWN.

SO WE HAVE TO EACH INDIVIDUALLY PLEDGE THAT EVEN IF IT'S HARD, I'M GOING TO RESPECT WHAT WE'VE SAID.

OKAY. LET'S I THINK THIS IS A GOOD DIALOG.

TRUSTEE WHITE SAID SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ACCOUNTABLE TO OURSELVES FIRST RIGHT BEFORE WE'RE ACCOUNTABLE TO OTHERS.

SO WE GOVERN OURSELVES.

I MEAN, THIS GUY HERE HAS HAD COUNTLESS LATE NIGHT CONVERSATIONS.

I'M TALKING ABOUT FIRE AND BRIMSTONE AT TIMES.

BECAUSE I'M A PASTOR, BUT ALSO I'M AN ACTIVIST.

SO IF I SEE THAT I'VE BROUGHT THINGS TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HISTORY NOW, HISTORY OF COMMUNITIES, BLACK COMMUNITIES BEING UNDERFUNDED,

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AND THIS HAS BEEN A PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR.

AND SO AFTER SO MANY TIMES OF SEEING THIS, YOUR PATIENCE RUNS THIN.

RIGHT? AND SO THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, AS A COMMUNITY ACTIVIST, YOU'RE THERE WITH THE ORGANIZERS, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO YOU ONE WAY, THEY'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND TELL PEOPLE, UNDERSTAND THAT BLACK KIDS MATTER NOW.

ALL KIDS MATTER.

BUT IF WE TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HISTORY, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY HAS BEEN UNDERFUNDED AND JUST IGNORED.

RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I RAN FOR SCHOOL BOARD, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR KIDS HAD RESOURCES.

WE HAD MORE OBSTACLES THAN OPPORTUNITIES.

AND SO TO SEE NOW, THINGS DIFFERENTLY AND A BOARD THAT UNDERSTAND WHAT REALLY RACIAL EQUITY IS, HAS, HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE.

BUT I'M THAT GUY. AND WHEN I SAY THAT BECAUSE HE SAYS, MAN, THIS DON'T LOOK GOOD.

AND I'M SAYING, YOU'RE SAYING MY ACTIONS DON'T LOOK GOOD, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EFFECT.

YOU'RE NOT DEALING WITH THE CAUSE.

SO THE CAUSE IS THIS IS WHY THIS HAS HAPPENED.

AND SO WE HAVE THOSE DIALOGS AND SOMETIMES IT'S NOT ABOUT COMING TO A PLACE OF AGREEMENT, BUT IT'S UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE'RE FROM. RIGHT.

WE'RE UNDERSTANDING THAT.

I MAY DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR WHY.

SOMETIMES PEOPLE DO THINGS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A WHY.

AND I FEEL LIKE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A WHY, THEN YOU HAVE NO END GOAL AND IT JUST CONTINUES TO BE CHAOTIC.

RIGHT. SO, FROM THAT LENS, I DIDN'T GET HERE BY BEING QUIET.

I DIDN'T GET HERE BY TURNING MY HEAD AND IGNORING.

I DON'T EVEN BELIEVE IN THAT.

I BELIEVE THAT, YOU TRY TO GO THROUGH THE PROTOCOL, YOU TRY TO GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM, YOU TRY TO WORK IT.

IF THE SYSTEM CONTINUES TO IGNORE THE REALITY OF WHAT'S GOING ON, THEN WE MUST SPEAK LOUDLY ABOUT IT.

IF THAT MEANS THAT WE LOOK BAD, THEN THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.

OKAY, AGAIN, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS BOARD, I LOOK AT A BOARD NOW THAT SAYS, HEY, WE DON'T HAVE TO BE LOUD ABOUT EVERYTHING. WHY? BECAUSE ONE THING, OUR PRESIDENT SAYS TO ME OVER AND OVER, HEY, TRUST YOUR BOARD.

AND AS WE BEGIN TO DO THAT, I'VE SEEN THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BE AS LOUD BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE A BOARD AND A SUPERINTENDENT THAT UNDERSTANDS IF WE TALK ABOUT THE SUPERINTENDENT.

SHE UNDERSTOOD A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE WAS GOING THROUGH BECAUSE SHE WHEN I CALLED HER, SHE WAS OUT THERE BEFORE I BECAME A TRUSTEE.

SO WHEN YOU HAD SOMEONE, SHE I THINK SHE WAS, I FORGOT YOUR CHIEF OF SCHOOL.

SHE HAD SO MANY HATS.

ONE OF THOSE OTHER TITLES, CHIEF OF SCHOOLS.

SO SHE SAW THOSE THINGS.

SO NOW, I DON'T HAVE TO BE AS LOUD.

I DON'T THINK I'M REALLY LOUD LIKE I USED TO BE, BECAUSE I CAN GO TO MY BOARD.

I CAN GO TO THE SUPERINTENDENT AND SAY, HERE'S THE ISSUES THAT'S GOING ON.

THAT'S VERY WISE.

AND SO BUT THAT CAME THROUGH RELATIONSHIP, THAT CAME THROUGH SOMEONE UNDERSTANDING.

AND I JUST TURNED A DEAF EAR AND SAY, OH, THAT'S JUST A LOUD [INAUDIBLE] NO, THIS IS THIS IS REALLY WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND COMING OUT THERE AND SAYING, THEY'RE NOT JUST BEING LOUD, THIS IS WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON.

AND SO THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

WHAT IS YOUR GOAL IN THAT CONVERSATION? THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT KIDS, ALL KIDS ARE TAKEN CARE OF, THAT NO ONE IS MISTREATED BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN OR THE ZIP CODE THEY LIVE IN.

AND YOU'RE NOT THERE JUST TO TELL PEOPLE, RIGHT? YOU'RE THERE TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.

AND THE ONLY WAY TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM IS TO GET THESE PEOPLE TO GO ALONG.

AND SO ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO GET THEM INSIDE THE UNDERSTANDING IS INCREDIBLY POWERFUL, BECAUSE THEY WILL YOU GOT TO GET FIVE VOTES TO MAKE THINGS DIFFERENT.

AND THIS BOARD HAS DONE THAT.

AND AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO THOSE LATE CONVERSATIONS WHERE, TRUSTEE HENRY'S I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU COME FROM.

HEY, TRUST YOUR BOARD. TRUST YOUR BOARD, TRUST YOUR BOARD.

AND SO WHEN AGAIN, WHEN YOU BUILD THAT TRUST, I'VE CONTACTED TRUSTEE BEN AT LIKE NIGHTTIME, THAT'S WHEN I STUDY AND AT TIMES WE HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE IS MAKING SURE THAT EVERY KID GETS THE RESOURCE THAT THEY NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

RIGHT. AND SO, YOU CAN SAY PARTIALLY, BUT THOSE THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES THAT WAS IT MADE THEM LOOK GOOD.

IT DIDN'T FEEL GOOD. BUT. WAS NECESSARY.

I THINK JOHN LEWIS CALLED IT GOOD TROUBLE.

NECESSARY TROUBLE.

AND SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT AGAIN, LOOK AT THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN THIS DISTRICT.

IT'S TREMENDOUS, NOT JUST IN DISTRICT FIVE, BUT ACROSS THIS BOARD WHERE WE UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER AND DON'T AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THE WHYS.

AND THAT MAKES THE TRUTH THAT TO ME, THAT'S MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE EXAMPLE ABOUT HOW THIS BOARD ACTS.

WE GIVE PERMISSION TO THE ORGANIZATION TO ACT.

I CAN SIT UP HERE AND SAY THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I'M SPEAKING FOR MY COMMUNITY, AND MY COMMUNITY IS LISTENING, AND SOME PEOPLE ARE, BUT THE WIDER COMMUNITY IS NOT PAYING

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NO, THEY'RE BUSY.

THIS MEETING IS, MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, A STAFF CULTURAL COMMUNICATION TOOL.

WHAT WE SPEND TIME ON DR.

ELIZALDE, ALL THE FOLKS SITTING IN THE FRONT ROW AND SITTING IN THOSE OFFICES ARE LOOKING AT PRIN-.

AS A FORMER PRINCIPAL, I DEFINITELY TUNED INTO BOARD MEETINGS.

THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE PAYING ATTENTION TO SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

RIGHT. AND HOW I RESPOND AS A SENIOR LEADER OR A CLASSROOM TEACHER OR A PRINCIPAL WAS VERY DIFFERENT.

IF THE BOARD WAS ALL UNITED AND SAYING, HOW ARE THOSE GAPS CLOSING BETWEEN OUR AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENTS AND A MORE AFFLUENT STUDENTS? HOW ARE WE THINKING ABOUT COUNSELING VERSUS ANYTHING ELSE THAT IT COULD BE OPERATIONAL WISE OR WHAT? WHAT IS COMING UP ABOUT BUSSES? NOT TO SAY AGAIN, THOSE ARE NOT IMPORTANT, BUT IT IS A VERY DIFFERENT REACTION.

AND THAT'S I JUST APPRECIATE THAT EXAMPLE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

LET'S LOOK AT NUMBER 14.

BOARD MEMBERS TREAT EACH OTHER IN THE SUPERINTENDENT AND STAFF WITH RESPECT IN PUBLIC I'VE GOT SIX PARTLY'S AND THREE FOLIES.

ANYBODY WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT ONE? SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS AN AREA THAT NEEDS SOME WORK.

MAXIE? WELL, YEAH. BREAK EYE CONTACT.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, BEN, IF YOU DON'T MIND IF I CALL YOU BY YOUR FIRST NAMES.

I'M KATHY.

THIS IS KAY.

BEN. WITH WHAT YOU SAID IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

IF YOU BEAT UP ON THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE STAFF SEES IT, WHAT'S THE STAFF LIKELY TO DO? BEAT RIGHT UP ON THE PEOPLE THAT THEY NEED TO GET RESPONSES FOR.

YEP. THEY UNDERSTAND.

AND TO LOSE RESPECT FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT WHO'S GETTING BEATEN UP ON.

YEAH. SO IT'S A VICIOUS CYCLE IF YOU ALL DEMONSTRATE COMMON COURTESY CARING, GOOD DEBATE.

UNDER GROWING UNDERSTANDING, THE STAFF WILL DO THE EXACT SAME THING.

AND IF THEY'RE IF YOU'RE BEATING UP ON THE STAFF, THEY'LL GO HOME AND THEY'LL BEAT UP ON THE PEOPLE UNDERNEATH THEM.

AND PRETTY SOON IT GETS DOWN TO THE CLASSROOM.

SO YOUR BEHAVIOR IS UNBELIEVABLY IMPORTANT.

UNBELIEVABLE. YOU REALLY MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN HOW YOU TREAT EACH OTHER.

AND THAT TRANSLATES DOWN.

I THINK THAT, I WON'T SOUND LIKE A PREACHER, BUT I TEACH YOU GET THE RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU BUILD.

EXACTLY. RECENTLY WE HAD A DISCUSSION, IN THE BACK, AND I HAD FIVE MINUTES TO GET AN ANSWER FROM MY SUPERINTENDENT, AND I CAME HERE AND GOT BACK IN CLOSED SESSION.

YES. AND I GOT AN ANSWER THAT WAS NEEDED IN TWO MINUTES.

AND SO IT WASN'T ALLOWED.

AND I WAS SUCCESSFUL.

AND SHE UNDERSTOOD.

IT WAS A VERY QUICK DIALOG.

AND IT'S COMPLETE.

IT'S DONE. THAT'S RELATIONSHIP RIGHT? YEAH. IT WASN'T A BEAT UP SESSION.

OH NO IT'S YOU'RE RIGHT.

I GOT IT.

DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

LET'S GO FORWARD.

THAT'S SIMPLE.

THAT'S HOW WE BUILD TRUST BY WORKING WITH EACH OTHER AND BEING TRUSTWORTHY.

LET'S DO NUMBER 15.

THE BOARD IS GENERALLY COHESIVE, RENDERING DECISIONS BASED ON AVAILABLE FACTS AND INDEPENDENT JUDGMENT, AND DOES NOT SURRENDER THAT JUDGMENT TO OTHER INDIVIDUALS OR SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS. ONE NOT PRESENT FOR PARTLY FOR FULLY.

HOW CAN WE DO BETTER IN THIS AREA? I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER IN THIS AREA IF WE, REMEMBER WHY WE'RE HERE, AND.

SET ASIDE WHAT WE FEEL IS OUR OWN SELF-INTEREST.

I MEAN, LET'S JUST GET REALISTIC.

THIS IS THE URBAN SCHOOL AREA.

WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER COMPETING INTERESTS.

WHETHER IT'S BUSINESS OR OTHER ENTITIES THAT ARE IN THE SAME BUSINESS THAT WE'RE IN.

AND I JUST THINK THAT IS KEY.

YOUR LOYALTY LIES HERE BEFORE IT DOES.

ANYWHERE ELSE. AT LEAST THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT.

YEAH, IT MAKES SENSE.

IT'S VERY EASY TO HAVE GROUPS COME AND BEAT UP ON YOU, BECAUSE THEY THINK YOU'LL BE THE PERSON WHO WILL LISTEN TO THEM.

AND WHEN PEOPLE BEGIN TO BELIEVE THAT YOU'LL CRATER, THEY'LL BE LINED UP OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE AND DOWN THE STREET TO BEAT UP ON YOU, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'LL CRATER.

ON THE OTHER HAND, SOMETIMES THEY COME AND BEAT UP ON YOU, AND YOU DON'T.

BUT YOUR COLLEAGUES MIGHT THINK YOU'RE CONTROLLED BY X, Y, AND Z.

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OKAY. NUMBER 16.

SORRY, I'M TALKING A LOT, BUT THE BOARD MAINTAINS A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH OF TRUST WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AND STRIVES TO FACILITATE HER SUCCESS.

I'VE GOT SEVEN PARTIES AND TWO FOLLIES.

ANY THOUGHT ON HOW WE COULD DO BETTER THERE? NOW I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ON ALL OF THESE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO KEEP.

GO RIGHT AHEAD.

PILE ON. I PUT PARTLY PRESENT FOR THAT ONE.

I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHY.

YOU CAN TALK ABOUT CONCERNS AND HANDLE DISCREETLY AND CONSTRUCTIVELY.

I DON'T THINK THAT ALWAYS OCCURS.

I THINK THERE'S BEEN MOMENTS WHERE, WE COULD HAVE HAD CONSTRUCTIVE MOMENTS OR EVEN BACK UP BEFORE WE EVEN GET DESTRUCTIVE MOMENTS OF COMMENT CONVERSATIONS TO GAIN UNDERSTANDING, JUST UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GOING ON.

I THINK THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHERE WE HAVE, NOT HANDLE CONCERNS DISCREETLY.

AND I DON'T, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T HELP US.

GET TO WHERE WE'RE GOING.

I THINK, TRYING TO BE GENERAL.

HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN AN EMPLOYEE? OKAY. AND DO YOU LIKE TO BE EVALUATED OUT IN PUBLIC? DO YOU LIKE YOUR BOSS TO YELL AT YOU ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S AN EVALUATION? NO. SO THINK ABOUT HOW YOU, AS THE EMPLOYEE, WHETHER IT'S A SUPERINTENDENT OF THE STAFF UP HERE, HOW YOU WANT TO BE TREATED.

YOU KNOW, LIKE MAXIE SAID, IF I GO OUT AND BEAT UP ON PEOPLE, CHANCES ARE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO ALONG WITH ME.

BUT IF I CAN, IF I CAN FORM A RELATIONSHIP AND TRUST AND, YOU KNOW, PRESENT MY ARGUMENT AND BE AVAILABLE TO CONVINCE THEM.

CHANCES ARE I CAN MOVE THEM.

YOU CAN MOVE PEOPLE.

SO IT'S THE SAME WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT.

PUBLIC HUMILIATION IS JUST NEVER BEEN AN EFFECTIVE WAY OF CHANGING SOMEONE'S BEHAVIOR.

SO THINK ABOUT HOW YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THOSE LITTLE CRACKS ARE IN THIS AND HOW YOU CAN HELP PLUG THEM? PART OF IT IS JUST DISCUSSING THIS AMONGST YOURSELVES.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU NOTICE SOMETHING.

TALK TO THE SUPER.

TALK TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT ABOUT IT.

I THINK WE COULD DO BETTER ON X, Y, OR Z.

AND I THINK THE, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW HOW SOMEONE TAKES A SUPERINTENDENT JOB, TO HAVE NINE BOSSES.

ONE IS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT.

NINE BOSSES THAT ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS, IS A WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL.

BUT, YOU KNOW, KEEPING GOOD PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE SYSTEM.

ONE OF THE THINGS I AM PROUD OF THIS BOARD IS, I THINK WHEN PEOPLE FROM THE STAFF COME BEFORE THIS BOARD NOW, THEY'RE WILLING TO PUSH BACK.

THEY'RE WILLING TO, DISAGREE.

AND I THINK WE'RE HER BOSSES.

AND IF THERE'S NOT A LEVEL OF TRUST AND SHE'S GOING TO GET CRITICIZED FAIRLY, UNFAIRLY WITHOUT TRYING TO GO TO HER FIRST.

IT MAKES IT REALLY HARD TO KEEP GOOD PEOPLE.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE SYSTEM.

WHY WOULD I SIT AT THAT TABLE? AND TAKE THAT TYPE OF PUNISHMENT OR KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING ON THE SIDE AND HELP TO SUPPORT YOU.

THEN YOU PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE PUBLICLY LATER.

I THINK THIS IS THE ONLY ONE OF THE FEW ORGANIZATIONS I COULD SEE WHERE THAT TYPE OF STUFF HAPPENS.

EVERYONE ELSE, WHEN YOU HAVE DISCUSSIONS LIKE YOU DESCRIBED WITH YOUR PLACE WHERE YOU WORK, IT'S NOTHING LIKE THIS.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY DAMAGING, FOR THE SYSTEM.

WHEN I SAY SYSTEM, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE KIDS.

ULTIMATELY, YEAH.

TO LOSE TRUST IN THAT WAY OR TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO DO AND PERFORM THEIR JOBS AT A HIGH LEVEL.

AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU PUT SO MUCH FEAR IN SOMEONE, WHEN THEY FEEL LIKE THEY JUST HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU OR APPEASE YOU OR WHATEVER, YOU DON'T GET THE RIGHT ANSWER.

IT JUST NEEDS TO BE A FREE SPACE WHERE YOU CAN AGREE, DISAGREE, DEBATE, DECIDE, AND AT SOME POINT COMMIT.

AND I THINK THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHERE SCHOOL BOARDS ARE SO OPPRESSIVE ON THE SYSTEM THAT PEOPLE JUST SAYING WHAT THEY THINK THE BOARD WANTS TO HEAR.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO FAIL OUR KIDS IF WE DO THAT, EVEN AMONG THE BOARD, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DISAGREE.

AND I THINK WE DO. AND THEN THEY GO BACK BEHIND AND DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

SO YOU'RE NOT CHANGING ANYONE'S BEHAVIOR JUST BECAUSE YOU MADE THEM HUMILIATE THEM.

AND I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MAYBE OTHER FOLKS DON'T HAVE.

FIRST OF ALL, YOUR SINGLE MEMBER.

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THESE ARE WHO I REPRESENT.

THIS IS WHO I NEED TO RESPOND TO.

YOU ARE REPRESENTING YOU ARE WORKING ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE STUDENTS OF DISD.

AND THE OTHER THING IS, Y'ALL ARE UNDER INTENSE SCRUTINY FROM MEDIA.

YOU GOT NEWSPAPERS, YOU GOT RADIOS, YOU GOT TELEVISION STATIONS.

AND SO IT MAKES A HEIGHTENED SENSE.

AND SOMETIMES I THINK WHEN YOU'RE ON THE BOARD AND YOU REPRESENT A CERTAIN GROUP, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, THEY GOT TO HEAR ME SAY THIS AND THEY GOT TO HEAR ME REPRESENTING ON THIS.

BUT WE DON'T REALIZE SOMETIMES THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL HAVE SMOOTHED THINGS OUT, BUT SOMETIMES WE CAN RILE PEOPLE UP AND THAT DISTRUST CONTINUES.

SO WHEN YOU NEED TO HAVE A BOND OR WHEN YOU NEED TO GET SUPPORT FOR SOMETHING, IT'S NOT THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL DIVIDED, BECAUSE THEY THINK YOU'RE DIVIDED.

SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO FIGURE OUT, HOW DO I ACCOMPLISH ALL THE THINGS I WANT FOR ALL OF THE STUDENTS AND YET KEEP THE TRUST OF THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY'RE YOU ALL KNOW THAT THERE IS AN ATTACK ON PUBLIC ED.

AND IF THEY CAN FIND A CRACK IN THE NINE BOARD MEMBERS AND THE SUPERINTENDENT OR SOME STAFF MEMBER, THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO EXPLOIT IT.

SO IT'S JUST HARD TO TO FIGURE OUT, AS YOU SAID, KEEP OUR, KEEP WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER WHY WE'RE HERE.

BECAUSE SOMETIMES I DO SOMETHING WELL INTENTIONED.

AND THEN THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF CONSEQUENCES THAT I DIDN'T CONSIDER THAT HAPPENED AS A RESULT OF IT.

AND IT'S HARD TO, YOU KNOW, PUT THE TOOTHPASTE BACK IN THE TUBE ONCE YOU SQUEEZE.

IT OUT. SO JUST REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID IS REMEMBER WHY WE'RE HERE AND REMEMBER WHAT THE LONG GOAL IS.

BECAUSE I MIGHT DO SOMETHING THAT FEELS GOOD IN THE MOMENT, AND IT SOMEHOW DERAILS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO SIX MONTHS FROM NOW AND A YEAR FROM NOW.

AND YOU KNOW, MY HAT IS OFF TO YOU.

MY HAT IS ABSOLUTELY OFF TO YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE WORKING IN INCREDIBLE CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT YOU'RE HERE FOR A REASON, AND EACH ONE OF YOU BRINGS SOMETHING.

AND IF YOU CAN JUST CONTINUE EVERY DAY TO SAY, HOW DO I MAKE THIS TEAM BETTER? BECAUSE I ALWAYS DO THE ANALOGY OF IT'S LIKE ROWING IN A BOAT AND CREW.

IF EVERYBODY DOESN'T ROW IN THE SAME DIRECTION AT THE SAME TIME, THE BOAT JUST SPINS AROUND.

AND WHEN YOU LOSE THE RACE, NOBODY SAYS, OH, BUT YOU ROWED SO CREATIVELY.

THAT WAS SO NICE.

AND WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING A SESSION WHERE WE TALK ABOUT NOT ONLY DO WE MAKE SURE WE'RE ROWING, BUT MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT POKING HOLES IN OUR OWN BOAT.

AND IF WE DO, HOW DO WE PLUG THOSE HOLES UP? BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DROWN.

THEN NOBODY SAYS, OH, Y'ALL WERE REALLY GOOD TRUSTEES, BUT Y'ALL WEREN'T.

IT'S A TEAM.

AND TOGETHER THE TEAM EITHER WINS OR LOSES.

IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY COWBOY JOKES.

I'M JUST GOING TO YEAH, TEXANS AND THE PLAYOFFS.

BUT JUST SAYING.

SO WHILE WE ARE A TEAM OF TEN, WE ALL COME INDIVIDUALLY AND I THINK THAT HAS TO BE RESPECTED.

I KNOW I HEAR PEOPLE ALL THE TIME SAY, WELL, YOU JUST ONE BIG BOARD AND YOU GOT TO JUST ALL DO EVERYTHING THE SAME WAY.

THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS.

THAT'S NOT LIFE.

THAT'S NOT LIFE, PERIOD.

WHAT I DO BELIEVE IS THAT, THERE HAS TO BE RESPECT BETWEEN THE BOARD AND THE SUPERINTENDENT.

THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS TO SHOW THE BOARD MEMBERS THE SAME LEVEL OF RESPECT THAT'S ASKED OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, SO THAT THERE IS A MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING.

THIS IS A $2 BILLION OPERATION, AND PEOPLE WANT TO JUST RELEGATE IT DOWN TO IT'S A SCHOOL BOARD, RIGHT? IT'S A $2 BILLION OPERATION WITH 20,000 EMPLOYEES, 20,000 EMPLOYEES.

YOU'RE ONE OF THE LARGEST EMPLOYERS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WE KNOW. YEAH, I KNOW, AND THAT'S WHY I'M MAKING THE POINT WHERE IT A SMALLER DISTRICT DON'T HAVE ALL OF THOSE SAME IMPLICATIONS THAT THIS DISTRICT HAS.

AND YES, WE ARE COVERED BY MEDIA GOOD AND BAD.

AND THAT'S JUST A PART OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS SITUATION.

I THINK THAT MUTUAL RESPECT HAS TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

WHILE THIS CONVERSATION HAS BEEN JUST ABOUT THE BOARD HAS TO RESPECT THE STAFF AND THE SUPERINTENDENT, THE STAFF AND THE SUPERINTENDENT ALSO HAS TO RESPECT THE BOARD.

SO IT'S A GIVE AND TAKE AFFAIR, AND IT'S GOING TO BE MORE THAN JUST DELINEATED ON 1 OR 2 ITEMS. THIS IS A BIG OPERATION AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE DISAGREEMENTS.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON ONE SIDE AND PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

THEY'RE EVEN GOING TO BE BOARD MEMBERS THAT DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER.

YES. THAT HAPPENS HERE.

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WE NEED TO JUST BE HONEST.

ALL THIS TIPTOEING AROUND AND TIPPING AND ALL THAT, NO, THERE'S GOING TO BE THAT.

BUT AT THE END, IF EVERYBODY IS HERE FOR CHILDREN, YOU FIGURE OUT A WAY TO COME TOGETHER.

GOOD. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT NUMBER 17.

THE BOARD ENSURES OPPORTUNITIES FOR DIVERSE RANGE OF VIEWS FROM THE COMMUNITY.

ONE NOT PRESENT.

TWO. PARTLY.

SIX. FULLY.

NOW I DON'T FEEL WE DO A GOOD JOB AS IN ENGAGING WITH OUR COMMUNITY AS WE SHOULD.

OTHER THAN THE TRADITIONAL WAYS THAT YOU DO AT BOARD MEETINGS.

EXACTLY. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THINGS THAT SHOULD BE GOING ON IN, ON THE CAMPUS.

I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE, HERE RECENTLY, I KNOW THAT OUR, WE'RE HAVING, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT EVENTS ON THE CAMPUS.

AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND WHEN COVID CAME, THERE WAS CHANGES THAT WE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND BEFORE COVID HAPPENED, PARENTS WERE NOT, INVITED ONTO THE CAMPUS.

LIKE, I FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN, BUT IT REALLY GOT WORSE, AFTER COVID.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING I FEEL WE NEED TO WORK ON.

AND, OUR DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE A DEPARTMENT OF, FAMILY AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, MY QUESTIONS ARE ALWAYS, HOW ARE THE PARENTS BEING INVOLVED IN THEIR CHILD'S LIVES? AND I'M CONSTANTLY REMINDED THAT, OH, THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE FACT THAT IT'S IT JUST BECAUSE IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S NOT A PART OF THE CONVERSATION WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, CAREERS.

FOR WHAT CAREER? COLLEGE AND CAREER READINESS IS FOR FOR STUDENTS.

HOW ARE THE PARENTS BEING EDUCATED SO THAT THEY CAN ASSIST THEIR KIDS? YOU KNOW, THAT HASN'T BEEN ON OUR AGENDA.

IT NEEDS TO BE ON THE AGENDA.

WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

SO THINK ABOUT HOW YOU GET THINGS DONE ON THIS BOARD.

AND TALKING ABOUT THEM FRANKLY DOESN'T DO IT.

YOU CAN TILL YOU'RE BLUE IN THE FACE.

YOU JUST TALK AND EVERYBODY YOU KNOW MOVES ON TO THE NEXT THING.

SO ONE OF THE WAYS TO GET THINGS DONE IS TO ASK THE SUPERINTENDENT AS A GROUP TO DO SOMETHING.

AND IF YOU, IF THE GROUP BELIEVES THAT THERE'S A ANALYSIS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, YOU CAN ASK THE SUPERINTENDENT.

BUT AS YOU KNOW, WE ONLY HAVE POWER AS A GROUP, NOT INDIVIDUALLY.

SO, YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON CAN'T JUST ASK, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT A PARTICULAR BOARD MEMBER IS WORRIED ABOUT.

A PARTICULAR THING CAN BEGIN TO EDUCATE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT THE PROBLEM.

AND EVENTUALLY THE GROUP ASKED THE SUPERINTENDENT FOR MORE INFORMATION OR A MORE, DATA DRIVEN LOOK AT THE PROBLEM RATHER THAN JUST TALKING ABOUT THE PROBLEM.

BUT THERE ARE WAYS TO DO IT, BUT YOU NEED THE ALLIANCE OF PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY.

AND I AM DEFINITELY AWARE OF THE ALLIANCE THAT'S NEEDED ON THE BOARD.

YES, I'M DEFINITELY AWARE OF IT.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

OKAY, I WOULD I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR LIGHT WAS ON.

YES. GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I SEE, I READ THIS ACTUALLY NOT ABOUT WHAT THE SUPERINTENDENT OR THE STAFF OR THE FAMILY OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DOES.

THIS IS ABOUT THE BOARD.

WE'RE ELECTED TO BE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE VISION AND VALUES OF THE COMMUNITY ON THIS BOARD.

THIS IS ABOUT US OWNING THIS ENGAGEMENT AND US AND NOT ME GOING TO MY COMMUNITY AND HAVING A CAMPAIGN EVENT BECAUSE MY THOUGHT IS, IF I'M ONE INDIVIDUAL, EVEN IF I'M GETTING FEEDBACK IN MY TRUSTEE DISTRICT, THAT'S A CAMPAIGN EVENT AS MUCH AS IT IS ANYTHING ELSE, BECAUSE THERE'S A BENEFIT TO ME IN THAT.

HOW IS THIS BOARD CREATING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HEAR FROM OUR WIDER DALLAS COMMUNITY? I KNOW TRUSTEE FOREMAN AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS, AND HOPEFULLY AS WE GO THROUGH AND RESET OUR GOALS OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR SO, HOW ARE WE TRULY GETTING ENGAGEMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY AS A BOARD, NOT ASKING SUPERINTENDENT TO GO DO THIS, BUT DOING THAT WORK OURSELVES SO WE CAN SET AN INFORMED GOALS AND GUARDRAILS.

AND THAT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE BECAUSE EACH OF YOU HAS A SPHERE OF INFLUENCE OUT HERE, AND YOU CAN BE A GREAT COMMUNICATOR IN AND OUT OF THAT SPHERE OF INFLUENCE.

EDWIN? SEE, THE WAY I READ THIS I WAS MORE, YOU KNOW, FOCUSED ON, YOU KNOW, MY COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN MY COMMUNITY ENGAGE WITH ME SO THAT I CAN GET THE INPUT SO THAT THEN I CAN BRING IT TO THE BOARD TABLE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO I MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE, ACCESSIBLE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE REACHING OUT TO ME AND SO THAT I CAN GET

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I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU HOST COMMUNITY FORUMS, I HAVE A THING ON FENTANYL.

YOU INITIATE IT. SO IT JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE OUT THERE AND VISIBLE AND ACCESSIBLE.

WELL, FOR MOST OF MY 14 YEARS, EVERY MONTH I MET WITH A GROUP OF THE PTA.

TWO PRESIDENTS FROM EVERY SCHOOL, AND I WOULD TELL THEM WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE DISTRICT, AND THEY WOULD TELL ME WHAT THEY WERE HEARING IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, OR THEY WOULD REACT TO WHAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO.

AND DID THAT MAKE SENSE OR NOT? BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH TEN PHONE CALLS, I COULD GET INFORMATION OUT TO 200,000 PEOPLE AND BACK REAL QUICKLY.

BUT YOU'VE GOT TO BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND KEEP THEM UP.

IT'S NOT A ONE TIME GET TOGETHER.

NEXT NUMBER 18.

THE BOARD ENSURES EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION OF ITS GOALS, PLANS AND POLICIES TO THE COMMUNITY TO BUILD PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING.

ONE NOT PRESENT FOR PARTLY'S FIVE FOLIES.

THIS IS A VERY, VERY HARD THING TO DO.

VERY VERY HARD.

YOU GUYS ARE THINKING AHEAD.

YOU'RE MAKING BIG PLANS AND THE COMMUNITY IS BUSY.

THEY'RE WORKING.

THEY'VE GOT 2 OR 3 JOBS, THEY GOT KIDS.

THEY GOT NATIONAL POLITICS SCREAMING AT THEM ALL THE TIME.

VERY HARD FOR THEM TO HEAR YOU.

SO YOU HAVE TO FIND A WAY.

AND IT'S NOT REALLY THE JOB OF THE ADMINISTRATION, ONLY IT REALLY IS INCUMBENT UPON US AS TRUSTEES.

HOW CAN I COMMUNICATE WITH MY COMMUNITY? I WAS ELECTED SINGLE MEMBER, SO I NEED TO FOCUS THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT AS WE DO THINGS, AS WE'RE ABOUT TO SET GOALS, AS WE'VE GOT PLANS, THAT THEY AS A GROUP ARE BEGINNING TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE COULD BE A BETTER JOB, RIGHT? I THINK IT'S EXCUSE ME, IT'S THE BOARD, BUT IT'S ALSO THE HELP OF THE ADMINISTRATION.

FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, YOU WANT THE ADMINISTRATION THERE, AND THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN WILLING TO GO TO MEETINGS TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES. THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING WITH A PARTICULAR SCHOOL.

YOU ALSO NEED THE ADMINISTRATION TO ASSIST YOU IN THAT.

THE ADMINISTRATION ASSISTS THE TRUSTEES IN, PUTTING OUT, ARTICLES IN NEWSPAPERS TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES.

VERY ACTIVE ON SOCIAL MEDIA TO BE ABLE TO PUT OUT SOME OF THOSE.

SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF FOR ME, IT'S A COMBINATION OF TRUSTEES AND THE ADMINISTRATION WORKING TOGETHER TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE TRUSTEES CAN'T DO THAT BY THEMSELVES.

COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WE PROBABLY STUMBLE OVER A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF, THAT THE ADMINISTRATION COULD EASILY EXPLAIN TO THE COMMUNITY.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? AND IF BOTH SIDES ARE THERE, IT SHOWS THAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP.

NUMBER 19, BOARD MEMBERS UNDERSTAND THEIR ROLE IS TO GOVERN, NOT MANAGE AND ACT ACCORDINGLY.

I HAVE ONE NOT PRESENT.

I HAVE, EIGHT PARTLY AND ONE FOLEY.

SO YOU GUYS ARE PERFECTLY NORMAL.

THERE'S A TEMPTATION TO HELP THE SUPERINTENDENT DO HER JOB.

ANY THOUGHTS HOW THAT COULD BE BETTER? SOMEBODY SAID IT EARLIER.

THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN MAKE THIS WORK IS PRACTICING SELF-DISCIPLINE.

SO YOU HAVE TO POLICE YOURSELF.

I TRIED TO MICROMANAGE A SUPERINTENDENT PERIODICALLY.

I HAD THOUGHTS ABOUT STUPID DECISION THAT WAS BEING MADE.

IT WAS VERY HARD TO KEEP MY FINGERS OUT.

SO THE BEST WAY TO DO IT IS TO JUST CALL MYSELF ON IT.

AND THE OTHER PART IS, IF YOU DO STEP OVER THAT LINE, YOU DO MICROMANAGE, THEN YOU DON'T GET TO HOLD HER RESPONSIBLE, BECAUSE UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO STAY IN YOUR LANE AND GIVE THE ADVICE THAT YOU NEED TO AND GIVE THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BRINGING SOMETHING TO HER ATTENTION AND TELLING HER HOW TO FIX IT.

SO I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE TERMINOLOGY MICROMANAGE BECAUSE FROM A SCHOOL DISTRICT PERSPECTIVE

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I MIGHT GO TO THE PRINCIPAL AND TALK TO THE PRINCIPAL.

NOT YOUR PRINCIPAL. YOU THAT IS YOUR EMPLOYEE.

AND SHE NEEDS TO HEAR THAT BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT KNOW THAT 15 OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THERE AHEAD OF YOU AND COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT CUSTODIAN AT THAT SCHOOL.

AND IF YOU GO TO THE PRINCIPAL, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS AS A DIRECT ORDER.

SUPERINTENDENT, GO TO THE SUPERINTENDENT.

SHE'LL DEAL WITH HOW TO GET THAT TO THE RIGHT INFORMATION, TO THE RIGHT PERSON.

DON'T. IF YOU GO TO THE EMPLOYEE YOU'RE MICROMANAGING, YOU'RE TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO.

EVEN IF YOU SAY, I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THERE'S A PROBLEM.

THEY UNDERSTAND THE UNSPOKEN WORD, WHICH IS YOU ARE TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO.

SO FEEL FREE. SHE WORKS FOR YOU.

SHE NEEDS TO KNOW.

OKAY? NUMBER 20.

WAIT, JUSTIN, I THINK THAT'S. YEAH.

THAT'S JUST, YOU SEE, IT'S EIGHT PARTLY PRESIDENT.

IT'S GOING TO BE THE HIGHEST OUT OF ALL OF THEM BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALL AWARE THAT IT OCCURS.

IF WE'RE HONEST WITH OURSELVES, WE PROBABLY ALL KNOW WE DO IT TOO.

I JUST ASKED MY DAUGHTER'S CHROMEBOOK DIED YESTERDAY.

SUPERINTENDENT, YOU KILLED IT.

I TALKED TO CHIEF HUBERT ABOUT IT, WHICH I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE.

I DON'T KNOW, RIGHT.

BUT BUT I CAN GIVE YOU A LIST OF OTHER THINGS, BUT I THINK IT'S.

I JUST WANT TO NAME AND FLAG AND HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT WE, AS A BOARD, ALMOST ALL PUT PARTLY PRESENT.

AND I THINK WE HAVE TO DO BETTER.

THAT'S WONDERFUL. THAT MEANS YOU RECOGNIZE IT? YEAH. WE'RE ON THIS BOARD. I THINK THIS IS VERY GOOD.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE CUT THE SUPERINTENDENT OUT OF THE LOOP, WE GET WE TAKE AWAY HER ABILITY TO HANDLE THE PROBLEMS. AND I KNOW A LOT OF BOARD MEMBERS FEEL LIKE THEY'RE.

OH, SHE'S BUSY.

I DON'T WANT TO BOTHER HER, YOU KNOW.

OH, THIS IS A SMALL THING.

I'LL JUST GO TELL THE PRINCIPAL OR I'LL JUST, SHE NEEDS TO KNOW ALL THESE PROBLEMS THAT ARE BUBBLING UP TO YOUR LEVEL SO SHE CAN DEVELOP A SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE THAT PROBLEM DOESN'T HAPPEN ANYMORE.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE JUST FIXING ONE PROBLEM AT A TIME, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP POPPING UP LIKE MOLES IN THAT, THAT WHACK A MOLE GAME.

SO SHE'S LOOKING ALWAYS FOR SYSTEMIC IMPROVEMENT.

HOW, THIS PROBLEM.

OH THEY'RE CONNECTED.

THAT MEANS WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SYSTEM.

SO GIVE HER THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIX THE SYSTEM.

SO NUMBER 20 BOARD MEMBERS PROVIDE NECESSARY CONSTITUENT SERVICE WITHOUT ATTEMPTING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS ONE.

NOT PRESENT SIX PARTLY TWO FULLY.

SO WHEN A CONSTITUENT COMES TO YOU, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE PROBLEM? WHEN A CONSTITUENT COMES TO ME WITH A PROBLEM, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THAT PROBLEM IS.

IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING ON THAT CAMPUS, I'M TALKING TO THE PRINCIPAL BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE PRINCIPAL.

SEE, NOW THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS NO IDEA THERE'S A PROBLEM ON THAT CAMPUS, BUT IN ALL ACTUALITY, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE CHAIN OF COMMAND THAT HAPPENS ON A CAMPUS, IT'S THE, IF IT'S WITH A TEACHER AND A STUDENT, THE PARENT SHOULD BE SPEAKING WITH THE TEACHER. IF THE TEACHER DOESN'T GIVE THEM THE SATISFACTION, THEN THE PARENT GOES TO THE PRINCIPAL.

IF THE PRINCIPAL DOESN'T, THEN THEY GO TO THE ED.

THE LAST CHAIN OF COMMAND FROM WHAT I HAD BEEN TRAINED ON WOULD BE THE SUPERINTENDENT.

SO I FIGURE IF I'M DIRECTING THE PARENT IN THE WAY INTO WHICH THEY SHOULD GO, WHICH IS BACK TO THE CAMPUS TO SOLVE IT, THAT'S PERFECT.

YOU'RE DIRECT, YOU'RE HELPING THEM UNDERSTAND THE CHAIN.

THAT'S PERFECT. BUT FOR ME, JUST TO COME TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, YOU KNOW, HEY, TRY TO GET THE MATTER OF FACT, IF, FOR INSTANCE, I GOT A CALL, ABOUT STUDENTS GOING INTO A COMMUNITY, BEHIND ONE OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS, AND THEY'RE JUST CAUSING WREAKING HAVOC. THEY'RE SKIPPING.

THEY'RE BRINGING BLANKETS AND JUST DOING THINGS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WAS LIKE, WE CAN HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING AT THE SCHOOL AND INVITE IN THE ISD SECURITY AND, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER CITY'S SECURITY THAT'S IN THE AREA.

BUT WHAT? THE LADY HADN'T GOT BACK WITH ME.

SHE BASICALLY STOOD ME UP.

SO AND I MADE SEVERAL CALLS I'VE DONE.

I FEEL LIKE I'VE DONE EVERYTHING THAT I SHOULD BE DOING, BUT I DEFINITELY WAS GOING TO MENTION THAT TO, THE PRINCIPAL TO LET HER KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.

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BECAUSE SHE CAN HOLD THE PRINCIPAL ACCOUNTABLE, YOU HONESTLY CAN'T BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT THEIR BOSS.

BUT SHE ABSOLUTELY COULD MOVE THAT PRINCIPAL TOMORROW.

SHE WILL HAVE THEIR ATTENTION IF THEY GET A PHONE CALL.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S YOUR JOB TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW THERE'S A PROBLEM.

KUDOS TO YOU FOR FINDING THAT OUT.

NOW GET IT TO SOMEBODY WHO CAN ACTUALLY FIX IT.

WHERE I'M HEARING THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS CONNECTING A PERSON, A PARENT THAT COMES AND SAID, I'M SUPER UPSET ABOUT THIS.

MY KIDS GRADE IS WRONG.

THEY'RE AGAINST MY KID.

AND YOU ASK THEM IF THEY'VE SPOKEN TO THE TEACHER.

THEY SAY, NO, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONNECTING THAT PARENT.

WELL, LET ME CONNECT YOU TO THE PRINCIPAL WHO WILL GET YOU CONNECTED TO THE TEACHER, VERSUS I'M GOING TO GO DOWN AND TALK TO THE PRINCIPAL.

OF COURSE. BIG DIFFERENCE.

THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENCE.

AND TO THE POINT ABOUT THE SUPERINTENDENT.

LIKE IF THERE'S A PROBLEM AND IT'S MY ANSWER IS NOT TO GO TRY TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM WITH THE PRINCIPAL, BUT IT IS MINE TO DIRECT THAT PERSON ABSOLUTELY TO THE PERSON WHO CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM. YOU CAN OFTEN HELP SOMEBODY WHO JUST DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THIS BIG SYSTEM.

YOU KNOW, MY KID DIDN'T GET PICKED UP ON THE BUS.

I'M GOING TO GO COMPLAIN TO A TEACHER.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

YOU CAN GET THEM TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE FOR THE PROBLEM, AND THEY REALLY ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE.

IF YOU CAN SHOW THEM HOW TO WORK INSIDE THIS BIG ORGANIZATION.

YES. OKAY.

NUMBER 21, WE'RE COMING DOWN TO THE END.

THE BOARD EXERCISES ITS MANAGEMENT OVERSIGHT RESPONSIBILITIES THROUGH AUDITS, WORKSHOPS, REPORTS.

I'VE GOT FIVE PARTLY'S AND FOUR FOLLIES.

SO I THINK SOMETIMES WE DON'T REALIZE WE'RE ACTUALLY OVERSEEING THE MANAGEMENT OF THE DISTRICT.

WHEN YOU GET A REPORT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS SAYING, HOW WELL IS THE MANAGEMENT DOING HERE? AND SO ALL THOSE REPORTS YOU GET, SOME OF THEM MAY SEEM VERY BORING, BUT THEY'RE ALLOWING YOU TO PEEK INSIDE AND SAY, ARE WE BEING WELL MANAGED? IS THIS ORGANIZATION RUNNING WELL? SO ALL THAT DATA THAT YOU GET, THAT'S HOW YOU KNOW WHETHER THE ORGANIZATION'S MOVING.

IT'S NOT THE REPORT YOU GET AT THE END.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOALS, IT'S ALL THAT STUFF YOU GET ALONG THE WAY.

OKAY, NUMBER 22.

THE BOARD ADOPTS A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE BUDGET BASED ON THE DISTRICT'S GOALS AND MONITORS THE FISCAL HEALTH OF THE DISTRICT. I'VE GOT NINE FOLLIES WHO.

THAT FEELS REALLY GOOD.

MIC DROP. YEAH.

NUMBER 23. THE BOARD STRIVES TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE RESOURCES AND ALLOCATE THEM EQUITABLY.

I HAVE EIGHT FULLY AND ONE NOT PRESENT.

NO THOUGHTS.

OKAY. NUMBER 24.

THE BOARD ANNUALLY EVALUATES ITS OWN EFFECTIVENESS TO NOT PRESENT THREE PARTIES FOUR FOLLIES.

YOU CAN NOW MARK THEM ALL FULLY.

YES. YOU HAVE NOW EVALUATED YOUR PERFORMANCE.

NUMBER 25. THE BOARD ADHERES TO ITS OWN OPERATING PROCEDURES AND GOVERNANCE POLICIES.

I'VE GOT SEVEN PARTIES AND TWO FOLLIES.

AND THOSE OPERATING PROCEDURES ARE YOUR RULES ON HOW YOU GOVERN YOURSELVES.

A QUICK QUESTION. WHAT WAS THE NUMBERS ON 24? I'M SORRY. 24? 234. THANK YOU.

ANY FINAL THOUGHTS? OKAY. YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE HARDEST, MOST IMPORTANT ELECTED OFFICIAL JOB IN THE COUNTRY.

IGNORE WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, THE STATE LEVEL.

THIS IS WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD.

AND WE'VE BOTH BEEN THERE.

WE ARE INCREDIBLY IMPRESSED THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THIS.

IT'S ALMOST THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY.

I'LL BE ON A LOCAL SCHOOL BOARD, BUT IT'S JUST SUCH A VALUABLE JOB.

AND I THINK EACH ONE OF YOU IS HERE FOR THE RIGHT REASONS.

IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE AS A GROUP.

YES. YOU MAY NOT LOVE EACH OTHER.

THAT'S OKAY. YOU HAVE DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT STYLES, DIFFERENT INTERACTION STYLES, DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.

BUT YOU SEEM TO BE ALL HERE FOR THE RIGHT REASONS.

JUSTIN, WE WILL KICK IT BACK TO YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

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IT'S HARD TO GET ALL NINE OF US IN A ROOM, SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WORK, SO I'M GLAD WE'RE ABLE TO DO IT.

I THINK WE ALL TOOK NOTES.

ALLOW US TO GROW INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY AS A BOARD.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR DRIVING DOWN HERE.

HOPE WE MAKE IT BACK SAFELY.

THANK YOU FOR DRIVING.

I'M SORRY ABOUT THE LAST TIME.

BUT THANKS AGAIN. WE ACTUALLY DRIVE UP HERE? YES. NOW WE'LL DRIVE BACK DOWN THERE.

YEAH. THE TRUSTEES HAVE ANYTHING? DR.

ELIZALDE NO ONE. WELL, I'M JUST REALLY QUICK.

I DO APPRECIATE, WHAT? YOU GUYS DID IT.

THIS WORKSHOP.

I FOUND IT, ENLIGHTENING.

AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO BE WORKING ON MYSELF, SO, YEAH, I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT NOT ONLY DID YOU GUYS BOTH HAVE EXPERIENCE, YOU'VE BEEN HERE.

YOU WALKED IN OUR SHOES. SO YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND.

IT'S NOT YOU'RE DISAGREEING JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU WANT TO.

IT'S BECAUSE YOU'VE LIVED IT.

SO THAT MAKES THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

AND, WELL, FEEL FREE TO CALL US IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

BOTH OF US WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GIVE YOU OUR $0.02.

OKAY, ON THE PHONE OR IN A EMAIL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT.

ANYTIME. BUT THE CONVERSATION IS WHAT MATTERED HERE TODAY.

YES. AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SPEAK UP AND AGREE AND DISAGREE.

BECAUSE IF ALL OF Y'ALL THOUGHT EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, WE'D ONLY NEED ONE BOARD MEMBER.

IT'S YOUR JOB TO BRING YOUR EXPERIENCE AND BRING YOUR STUFF.

AND YOU DID. AND THANK YOU.

[INAUDIBLE] VERY GOOD.

I THINK DR. ELIZALDE HAS SOMETHING I JUST WANTED TO SAY.

I WANTED TO THANK THE BOARD.

CERTAINLY WANTED TO THANK KAY AND KATHY.

I ALWAYS LEARN ON AREAS THAT I CAN IMPROVE, THAT CAN HELP WITH THE COMMUNICATION.

I THINK WE SAW SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT, OUR TEAM AS THE LEADERSHIP TEAM FROM THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE CAN CERTAINLY WORK ON SUPPORTING AND IMPROVING, COMMUNICATION EXPECTATIONS, WHETHER IT'S THEORY OF ACTION OR WHETHER IT'S SUPPORTING COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

BUT I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT OF JUST PRIVILEGE, HAVING WORKED FOR ANOTHER BOARD IN ANOTHER DISTRICT, IT'S ALWAYS EASY TO LOOK AT A STEM, AND SOMETIMES ONLY SEE THE THORNS AND NOT SEE THE ROSE.

AND I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY AN EDUCATOR'S JOB TO LOOK FOR THE ROSE FIRST AND RECOGNIZE THE BEAUTY THAT IS HERE SERVING OUR STUDENTS.

AND I AM VERY, VERY PRIVILEGED TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THIS BOARD AND TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.

AND I THANK YOU ALL.

I'VE LEARNED A LOT THIS EVENING.

DAN? I'M SORRY.

JUST ONE ONE LAST QUESTION AND THIS MAY BE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF YOUR TRAINING, BUT, LIKE, IF AN ISSUE COMES UP AND ONE OF US HAS A QUESTION ON, YOU KNOW, HOW'S THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE IT, AND THEY WANT TO REACH OUT TO YOU.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE OPEN TO? [INAUDIBLE] SAME HERE.

FEEL FREE TO CALL ME.

YEAH. WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER OUT TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE.

OKAY, I DON'T CARE.

EVERYBODY HAS IT. YEAH.

ALRIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU BOTH.

I KNOW YOU'RE DRIVING BACK TODAY, SO SAFE TRAVELS, AND WE'LL LET YOU GET ON THE ROAD.

FAYE?

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FOR THE RECORD, I'M FAYE MATTHEWS BRIDGES.

I'M AN ASSISTANT ASSOCIATE ASSISTANT GENERAL COUNSEL HERE AT THE DISTRICT, AND I SERVE AS YOUR BOARD'S PARLIAMENTARIAN.

AND I'VE BEEN ASKED TO CONDUCT A PARLIAMENTARIAN TRAINING FOR YOU THIS EVENING.

SO I WANT TO MAKE THIS FUN AND INTERACTIVE.

SO YOU MAY WANT TO PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TODAY, BECAUSE ONCE WE GET DONE WITH THE FORMAL TRAINING, THOSE LITTLE CLAPPERS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR HANDS, WE'RE GOING TO BE USING THOSE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SPLIT INTO TEAMS AND PLAY A GAME OF FRIENDLY FEUD TO SEE WHAT YOU RETAIN FROM THE TRAINING.

OKAY. SO AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER HOW WE'LL USE THOSE CLAPPERS.

BUT I WANT TO GET STARTED AND HELP YOU TO GET THROUGH THIS TRAINING.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY, SO I PROMISE THAT THIS FORMAL TRAINING WILL NOT TAKE LONG, AND I HOPE THAT THE FRIENDLY FEUD GAME WILL BE INTERESTING AND FUN FOR YOU ALL, AS WELL AS EDUCATIONAL.

SO TODAY WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS TWO BASIC CONCEPTS.

WE'RE GOING TO FIRST TALK ABOUT KEYS TO AN EFFECTIVE BOARD MEETING.

NOW THERE MAY BE LOTS OF KEYS AND YOU ALL MAY COME UP WITH SOME THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I AM GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT TONIGHT.

BUT BASED ON TIME AND THINGS, WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ONLY ON EIGHT OF THOSE PARTICULAR KEYS.

SECOND, WE WILL TALK ABOUT BASIC CONCEPTS OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

WE'RE GOING TO START TONIGHT WITH WHAT I FIND TO BE ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS THAT I BELIEVE YOU NEED TO HAVE IN ORDER TO HAVE AN EFFECTIVE MEETING.

THAT BEING.

THE RULES OF AN ORGANIZATION.

ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER STATES THAT AN ORGANIZED SOCIETY REQUIRES CERTAIN RULES TO ESTABLISH ITS BASIC STRUCTURE AND MANNER OF OPERATION.

SO YOU NEED THAT.

SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT KEY IN ALL TEXAS.

SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE GUIDED BY A HIERARCHY OF RULES, STARTING WITH YOUR LEGAL POLICIES.

YOUR LEGAL POLICIES ARE THOSE THAT ARE DERIVED FROM THE US CONSTITUTION, THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION, FEDERAL STATUTES, STATE STATUTES INCLUDING LIKE OUR EDUCATION CODE, ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINIONS, AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE, ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINIONS.

SO THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOUR LOCAL BOARD POLICIES ARE THOSE POLICIES THAT YOU ALL HAVE CONTROL OVER AND THAT YOU IMPLEMENT, AND YOU HAVE THOSE ARE YOU ADOPTING THEM AS A BOARD AND YOU HAVE THAT CONTROL THROUGH THE EDUCATION CODE SECTION 11.151.

NEXT, WE HAVE SPECIAL RULES OF ORDER.

THOSE ARE ORGANIZATIONAL RULES THAT VARY THE RULES OF YOUR ADOPTED PARLIAMENTARIAN AUTHORITY.

THIS BOARD HAS ADOPTED ROBERT'S RULES OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER AND NEWLY REVISED.

WE'RE IN THE 12TH EDITION RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE USING AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE USED.

SO WHEN WE SAY SPECIAL RULES, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN IN ITSELF THOUGH? SO SPECIAL RULES ARE THOSE THINGS WHERE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER MAY REQUIRE THAT YOU HAVE A TWO THIRDS VOTE IN SOMETHING, FOR INSTANCE, AND THAT COULD BE FOR YOU TO SUSPEND YOUR RULES, CALL FOR THE PREVIOUS QUESTION, MODIFY YOUR DEBATE.

CLOSE NOMINATIONS OBJECT TO THE CONSIDERATION OF A QUESTION.

HOWEVER, THE EDUCATION CODE 11.051, A1 STATES THAT THE BOARD MAY ACT ONLY BY A MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS PRESENT AT A MEETING HELD IN CONJUNCTION, HELD IN COMPLIANCE.

I'M SORRY, WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, AT WHICH A QUORUM OF THE BOARD IS PRESENT AND VOTING.

A MAJORITY VOTE IS GENERALLY DETERMINED FROM A MAJORITY OF THOSE PRESENT, AND VOTING EXCLUDING ABSTENTIONS AND ASSUMING A QUORUM IS PRESENT.

THERE'S ALSO A OPINIONS THAT SUPPORT THIS COMMON LAW DOCTRINE THAT A BOARD MAY NOT ADOPT PROCEDURAL RULES THAT IMPOSES A SUPERMAJORITY VOTING REQUIREMENT UNLESS MANDATED THROUGH TEXAS STATUTE OR THE THROUGH STATUTE OR TEXAS CONSTITUTION THAT IT ITSELF IMPOSES A SUPERMAJORITY REQUIREMENT.

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SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THESE TYPES OF SPECIAL RULES, IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT, THEY ALSO REFLECT UPON THE LEGAL POLICIES AND THE RULES AFFECTED.

WITH LEGAL NOW STANDING RULES.

THOSE ARE THE RULES THAT RELATE TO THIS BOARD AND HOW YOU OPERATE WHEN YOU MEET, HOW YOU MEET THE TIMES, THE LOCATIONS, THOSE THINGS. STANDING RULES ARE ADDRESSED FOR THIS BOARD IN BE LOCAL.

AND SO THOSE ARE MORE ALIGNED WITH YOUR LOCAL POLICIES, AND YOU CAN THINK OF THEM THAT WAY.

AGAIN, OUR RULES OF ORDER IN THE HIERARCHY OF THIS CHAIN OF COMMAND IS ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

SO EVEN THOUGH WE CALL IT ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER AND THAT WE SAY WE'RE GOVERNED BY THAT IN THE CHAIN AND THE HIERARCHY, ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER IS REALLY WAY DOWN THE CHAIN.

AND A LOT OF GOVERNMENTAL INSTITUTIONS, OTHER ENTITIES, THEY DON'T USE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER BECAUSE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER REALLY WASN'T DEVELOPED FOR GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES.

OKAY? IT WAS MADE ORIGINALLY FOR A TEA PARTY TYPE THINGS.

SO WE USE IT.

BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND, EVEN WHEN WE DO USE IT, THERE ARE A WHOLE BUNCH OF POLICIES, INCLUDING THE LEGAL, LOCAL OR SPECIAL RULES AND STANDING RULES THAT TRUMP THAT PARTICULAR, ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

THEN WE ALSO HAVE WHAT'S KNOWN AS OUR PRACTICES AND CUSTOMS. WE HAVE THEM.

WE DO THINGS THAT WE JUST THAT'S THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THINGS, LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE.

A SWEARING IN CEREMONY FORMERLY HERE FOR EVERYONE HERE.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO.

THERE'S NO RULE THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO DO THAT.

THAT'S JUST SOMETHING. IT'S A CUSTOM THAT WE'VE DONE FOR A LONG TIME.

SO JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THERE'S A HIERARCHY.

AND TO KNOW THAT HIERARCHY HELPS YOU TO KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN A MEETING AND WHY THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE.

NEXT, AS ANOTHER KEY, I BELIEVE, IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO ACTUALLY RUN YOUR MEETING.

OKAY. THAT COULD BE YOUR BOARD PRESIDENT, COULD BE A PRESIDING OFFICER, BUT YOU NEED SOMEONE THAT'S THERE TO ACTUALLY START THE MEETING AND BE THE AA LOCAL SETS OUT 16 DUTIES OF YOUR BOARD PRESIDENT.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO FOCUS ON ALL THE 16.

BUT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT HERE THE ONES THAT ARE IMPORTANT AND THAT YOU MAY SEE LATER ON TONIGHT.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ALL OF YOUR DUTIES OF YOUR OFFICERS ARE OUTLINED IN BDAA BUT HERE, YOUR BOARD PRESIDENT, THEY PRESIDE AT YOUR MEETING.

IN THIS INSTANCE, TRUSTEE HENRY ALLOWED TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

HE SIGNS LEGAL DOCUMENTS ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD.

HE CAN APPOINT COMMITTEES.

HE MAY CAUSE SPECIAL CALLED BOARD MEETINGS SUCH AS THIS WORKSHOP.

HE GETS TO DECIDE QUESTIONS OF ORDER.

AND ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE A PARLIAMENTARIAN, HE ACTUALLY IS THE ONE THAT DECIDES WHAT THE ACTUAL RULE IS.

IF THERE IS A DISAGREEMENT ABOUT A PARLIAMENTARIAN QUESTION, AND IF YOU DISAGREE, YOU CAN APPEAL THAT DECISION TO THE FULL BOARD.

HE DELIVERS ADVICE OF ATTORNEYS, AND HE HAS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT A QUORUM IS PRESENT TO START THE MEETING, AND HE SHOULD BE LOOKING TO ENSURE THAT A QUORUM IS MAINTAINED THROUGHOUT THE MEETING.

SO THAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND IF YOUR BOARD PRESIDENT ISN'T AVAILABLE TO START A MEETING, THEN THE NEXT RANKING OFFICER WOULD ACTUALLY FILL IN.

AND BDAA OUTLINES ALL THOSE DUTIES.

FOR IN CASE SOMEONE IS ABSENT WHO STEPS IN THE ORDER THAT THEY STEP IN.

NOW, WE TALKED ABOUT A QUORUM.

AND QUICKLY.

JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, A QUORUM IS THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF MEMBERS WHO MUST BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN ORDER THAT WE CAN TRANSACT BUSINESS.

NOW, THE NUMBER FOR THIS BOARD ON A NINE MEMBER BOARD IS FIVE.

BUT I WANT YOU TO KEEP IN MIND THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A MAJORITY VOTE.

SO IF WE ONLY HAVE FIVE MEMBERS THAT SHOW UP AT A MEETING AND THE BOARD GOES AHEAD AND MEETS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, THREE MEMBERS OF THE

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SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND.

YOU ALSO CAN HAVE VIDEO CONFERENCE CALLS, AND UNDER THE NEW RULES, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS YOU CAN HAVE THE VIDEO CONFERENCE CALL, BUT A PHYSICAL QUORUM HAS TO BE PRESENT AT THE PHYSICAL PRESENT, PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT THE LOCATION OF THE MEETING.

SO SOME, IN ORDER TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER THE QUORUM AT THE PHYSICAL LOCATION HAS TO BE FIVE.

AND WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING, AND THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT WHEN IT COMES TO VOTING, IF YOU ARE ON THE VIDEO CONFERENCE CALL, YOUR FACE MUST BE VISIBLE. YOUR VOICE MUST BE AUDIBLE TO EACH MEMBER AND THE PUBLIC IN ORDER FOR YOUR VOTE TO COUNT.

SO YOU'RE NOT EVEN COUNTED AS BEING PRESENT.

AND THAT'S WHY SOMETIMES WE WILL BE TEXTING PEOPLE AND SAYING, TURN ON YOUR PHONE, TURN ON YOUR PHONE, TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.

THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT SO THAT YOUR VOICE CAN BE HEARD AND THAT YOU CAN BE COUNTED AND NOT MARKED ABSENT DURING THAT TIME.

ANOTHER KEY TO AN EFFECTIVE.

SO IN SAYING THAT, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT ENOUGH MEMBERS PRESENT SO THAT WE CAN EVEN CONDUCT OUR MEETING.

AND SO THAT'S WHY A QUORUM IS IMPORTANT AND A KEY TO AN EFFECTIVE BOARD MEETING.

NEXT, WE HAVE AN AGENDA.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE AN AGENDA BECAUSE THE BOARD, AS WE PREVIOUSLY NOTED, THE BOARD PRESIDENT APPROVES THE AGENDA.

HE WORKS WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT IN CREATING THE AGENDA.

BUT YOUR AGENDA IS WHAT GIVES YOU THE STRUCTURE FOR THE MEETING ITSELF.

IT GIVES THE PUBLIC NOTICE OF WHAT WILL BE DISCUSSED.

AND IT ALSO IS A REQUIREMENT BY LAW.

SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT REQUIRES THE BOARD TO GIVE WRITTEN NOTICE OF THE DATE, HOUR, PLACE AND SUBJECT OF EACH MEETING. NOW NOTICE AND AGENDA SOMETIMES HAVE BEEN BLENDED TOGETHER.

A LOT OF TIMES WE, HOWEVER, POST SEPARATELY OUR NOTICE.

WE HAVE A NOTICE AND WE HAVE AN AGENDA FOR OUR MEETINGS.

SOME BOARDS DO NOT, THEY JUST COMBINE IT IN ONE DOCUMENT.

BUT YOU HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC.

IT MUST BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

SO WE POST OUR MEETINGS NOT ONLY ON OUR WEBSITE, BUT AT 9400 WE HAVE A PHYSICAL, AGENDA POSTED, AND IT'S AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE.

IT HAS TO BE SPECIFIC ENOUGH TO TELL THE PUBLIC, WHAT ARE THE SUBJECTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING OR ACTING UPON.

YOU HAVE TO LET THEM KNOW THOSE THINGS.

OUR LOCAL RULES PERTAINING TO DEADLINES ASSOCIATED WITH ITEMS GOING ON AN AGENDA IN PREPARATION OF THAT AGENDA ARE OUTLINED IN BE LOCAL. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE COMBINATIONS WHEN WE LOOK AT SPECIAL RULES AND OUR LOCAL RULES, BECAUSE THERE IS A COMBINATION BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENT UNDER THE NOTICE UNDER THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

SO IN THE HIERARCHY YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW THAT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

NEXT. OUR NEXT KEY IS FOR YOU TO BE PREPARED.

WE WANT YOU TO REVIEW YOUR MATERIAL IN ADVANCE AND EXCEPT FOR AN EMERGENCY, THE AGENDA SHOULD BE POSTED 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF A MEETING.

THIS NOT ONLY GIVES THE PUBLIC INFORMATION AS TO WHEN THE ITEMS WILL BE COMING FORWARD, BUT THE BOARD ITSELF SO THAT THEY CAN PREPARE FOR THE ITEMS. GENERALLY, THE AGENDA AND SUPPORTING MATERIALS FOR BOTH THE BOARD BRIEFING AND MONTHLY BOARD MEETING ARE POSTED SIX DAYS BEFORE A BOARD BRIEFING. RARELY DO SUPPORTING MATERIALS POSTED TO AN AGENDA TO THE ORIGINAL MONTHLY MEETING AGENDA DIFFER FROM THE INITIAL POSTING WITH THE BOARD BRIEFING AGENDA UNTIL THE DATE OF THE MONTHLY BOARD MEETING.

SO THIS GIVES YOU ACTUALLY ABOUT THREE WEEKS TO ASK QUESTIONS TO REVIEW THAT MATERIAL AND PRIOR TO HAVING TO ACT UPON IT.

BEING PREPARED AND REVIEWING MATERIALS IN ADVANCE PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO FORMULATE AND ASK QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING, AND INCREASE YOUR LIKELIHOOD OF RECEIVING RESPONSES TO YOUR QUESTIONS WELL IN ADVANCE OF HAVING TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON AN ITEM.

REVIEWING MATERIALS ALSO WILL HELP YOU TO BE OBJECTIVE AND YOU MAY BE ABLE TO HELP.

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SO IF YOU'RE PREPARED, THEN YOU HAVE CAN FORMULATE STRONG ARGUMENTS FOR WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO DO AND BE AND ACT.

AND WE WANT YOU TO BE OBJECTIVE.

SO WHAT DO WE MEAN WHEN I SAY I WANT YOU TO BE OBJECTIVE, WHICH IS OUR NEXT KEY? WE WANT YOU TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS BASED ON FACTS.

AND HOW DO YOU DO THAT? BY REVIEWING YOUR MATERIALS IN ADVANCE.

YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR EMOTIONS OUT OF YOUR DECISION MAKING, AND YOU ALL JUST HAD A MEETING WHERE YOU TALKED ABOUT IT.

YOU ALL HAVE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.

YOU HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS.

PEOPLE COME TO YOU WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT ARE COMING ON.

SO IT IS HARD SOMETIMES TO KEEP EMOTIONS OUT OF THINGS, BUT YOU WANT TO DO THAT AND TRY TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON FACTS RATHER THAN EMOTIONS.

BUT I KNOW THAT'S A HARD THING TO DO.

YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE THINGS PERSONAL, SO YOU DON'T WANT TO HOLD GRUDGES AGAINST EACH OTHER.

WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS, YOU WANT TO VOTE ON THE ITEM AND NOT AGAINST THE PERSON OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS.

THEY SHOULD BE UNBIASED.

TRY TO LISTEN AND UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU CAN GET ALL THE INFORMATION SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE A SOUND, INFORMED DECISION.

HAVE AN OPEN MINDSET WHEN YOU APPROACH NEW THINGS, LISTEN AND IT'S IMPORTANT AND I JUST LISTENED TO THE MEETING EARLIER AND IT WAS INTERESTING TO HEAR WHEN PEOPLE SAID, I JUST DON'T KNOW.

AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ADMITTING THAT.

YOU JUST DON'T KNOW.

YOU CAN LEARN BY JUST SAYING THAT.

AND IT ALSO HELPS OTHER PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND AND BE NOT AFRAID TO SAY THE SAME THING.

SO IF YOU'RE OBJECTIVE, YOU CAN MAYBE LEARN SOMETHING BY JUST LISTENING.

I WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO CONSIDER ALL ANGLES AND CONSTRUCT LOGICAL ARGUMENTS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE MEAN BY BEING OBJECTIVE.

OUR NEXT SLIDE IS NUMBER SEVEN OF OUR EIGHT KEYS TO AN EFFECTIVE MEETING.

AND THAT IS YOU WANT TO DISCUSS ONE ITEM AT A TIME.

THE BASIC PRINCIPLES.

THE BASIC PRINCIPLE OF DECISION IN A DELIBERATIVE ASSEMBLY IS THAT TO BECOME THE ACT OR CHOICE OF THE BODY, A PROPOSITION MUST BE ADOPTED BY A MAJORITY VOTE, THAT IS, DIRECT APPROVAL, IMPLYING ASSUMPTION OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ACT.

THAT STATEMENT IS TAKEN FROM ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, AND SO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS ONE ITEM AT A TIME.

HOW DO YOU DO THAT? WE DO THAT THROUGH OUR MAIN MOTION.

YOU'LL HEAR THE BOARD PRESIDENT ASK FOR A MOTION.

ANOTHER TRUSTEE WILL SECOND THAT MOTION, YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND YOU ALL DISCUSS THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TAKE ACTION, AND YOU HAVE DEBATE ON THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS YOU HAVE ON ONLY ONE ITEM AT A TIME SHOULD BE ONE.

ONE MOTION. I SHOULD SAY MAIN MOTION SHOULD BE BEFORE THE ASSEMBLY FOR ACTION AT A TIME THAT LETS EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE VOTING ON, AND SO THAT THEY'RE CLEAR AS TO WHAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN THE MEETING.

NOW, OUR LAST KEY TO AN EFFECTIVE BOARD MEETING THAT I'VE CHOSEN FOR THE GROUP IS THE MEETING LOCATION.

AND YOU MIGHT SAY, WHY WOULD YOU CHOOSE SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WELL, HOW IS THAT A KEY TO MAKING AN EFFECTIVE MEETING LEAD TO AN EFFECTIVE BOARD MEETING? WELL, GENERALLY, BOARD MEETINGS ARE HELD HERE AT 5100 OR 5151 SAMUEL BOULEVARD, BUT NOT ALWAYS.

WE'VE HAD MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE'VE MOVED AROUND, MEETINGS HAVE CHANGED WITH THE DATES AND THETIMES.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE MEETINGS AT 9400.

SO IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE, WE'RE HAVING A BOARD MEETING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE AT THIS BUILDING.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT SO THAT WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN FIND THIS OUT THROUGH THE NOTICE AND YOUR AGENDA, WHERE THE MEETING IS GOING TO BE HELD AND WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE HELD.

THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS HELPS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM THAT'S AVAILABLE.

ANOTHER ONE OF OUR EFFECTIVE KEYS OR KEYS TO AN EFFECTIVE MEETING IS TO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.

SO IF YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND YOU ARRIVE ON TIME, THAT HELPS TO ENSURE THAT THOSE THINGS HAPPEN SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND FINISH THOSE THINGS OUT AND START THE MEETING TIMELY. USING THE EIGHT KEYS WE JUST DISCUSSED WILL HELP YOU LEAD TO AN EFFECTIVE MEETING.

AND OF COURSE, I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE PLENTY MORE THAT YOU COULD ADD TO THIS CONVERSATION, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, WE'RE GOING TO STICK TO THESE TODAY.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON AND I HOPE YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION.

PART B BASIC CONCEPTS OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

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AND SO HERE WE'RE GOING TO GO.

YOU SHOULD UNDER BASIC CONCEPTS OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT LIMITED TO THESE.

YOU CONSIDER ONE MATTER AT A TIME, SUCH AS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AS BEING EVEN A KEY TO AN EFFECTIVE MEETING.

YOU NEED TO RECOGNIZE THE RIGHT OF THE MAJORITY TO RULE.

RECOGNIZE THE RIGHT OF THE MINORITY TO BE HEARD.

THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

PROTECT THE RIGHT OF ABSENT MEMBERS.

SO SINCE WE HAVE A FULL BOARD, THIS IS IMPORTANT.

I'VE BEEN ON WORKING WITH THE BOARD FOR A LONG TIME, AND WE DON'T USUALLY HAVE TOO MANY MEMBERS WHO ARE ABSENT WHEN WE HAVE NOMINATIONS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IF YOU'RE ABSENT, THAT SOMETIMES I'VE SEEN SOMEBODY NOMINATED FOR A POSITION WHERE WE'VE HAD TO COME BACK AND VOTE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T REALLY WANT THAT POSITION.

BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO PROTECT THE RIGHT OF ABSENT MEMBERS AS WELL.

SO YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET A POSITION, BUT IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE, THEN YOU CAN DENY IT OR DECLINE IT RIGHT ON THE SPOT.

BUT THOSE ARE THINGS TO CONSIDER.

BUT THE OTHER MEMBERS WHO ARE NOMINATING YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU WANT THAT POSITION BEFORE YOU GET IT AS WELL.

WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS AND ACT JUDICIOUSLY.

BE OPEN, AS WE TALKED ABOUT JUST PREVIOUSLY, TO DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS.

THAT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND, LISTEN AND TO BE HEARD.

ALLOW FREE AND IMPARTIAL DEBATE.

IT DOESN'T REALLY HELP WHEN YOU GET MAD AT EACH OTHER AND SPEAK TO EACH OTHER, AND IT BECOMES AN ARGUMENT AS OPPOSED TO HAVING LISTENING AND GETTING THAT IMPARTIAL DEBATE.

AND IF IT DOES GET KIND OF PERSONAL, THAT'S WHAT YOUR BOARD PRESIDENT IS FOR.

YOU NEED TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT, AND THEN HE CAN HANDLE THOSE PARTICULAR ISSUES.

YOU WANT TO. IF YOU USE THESE KEYS, YOU CAN HAVE CONDUCT BUSINESS IN A REASONABLE LENGTH OF TIME AND MAKE DECISIONS WITH JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS.

THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING.

BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH YOU DO HAVE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS, YOU REPRESENT THE ENTIRE SCHOOL DISTRICT, ALL 141 PLUS STUDENTS.

SO YOU WANT TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE FAIR TO ALL STUDENTS AND AT ALL TIMES.

YOU SHOULD BE COURTEOUS TO EACH OTHER AND THAT WILL HELP LEAD TO USING THESE CONCEPTS WILL NOT ONLY HELP LEAD TO EFFECTIVE BOARD MEETINGS, BUT EFFICIENT BOARD MEETINGS.

SO THAT IS CONCLUDES MY FORMAL PRESENTATION.

I HOPE YOU ALL LIKE THAT PART.

AND YOU WERE PAYING ATTENTION.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

NOW I PROMISE THAT WOULD NOT TAKE LONG BECAUSE I WANT TO GET TO THE GAME.

SO EVERYTHING THAT I TOLD YOU IN THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE GAME.

SO WE ARE GOING TO SPLIT INTO TWO TEAMS, AND I'M GOING TO READ THIS OFF REAL QUICK FOR YOU ALL SO YOU'LL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

TO CONSERVE TIME, WE'VE NAMED YOUR TEAM'S PRESIDENT, HENRY.

YOU HAVE THE GOVERNMENTAL KNIGHTS AND EVERYBODY TO THE RIGHT OF YOU, DR.

ELIZALDE. YOU'RE THE ACADEMIC WARRIORS AND EVERYBODY TO THE LEFT OF YOU ARE ACADEMIC WARRIORS.

OKAY? YOU ALL HAVE CLAPPERS IN FRONT OF YOU THAT YOU WILL BE USING.

OKAY, NOW, I HOPE EVERYONE'S FAMILIAR WITH THE OLD FAMILY FEUD GAME.

SO OUR FRIENDLY FEUD GAME WILL BE MUCH LIKE THAT.

FOR YOUR SAFETY, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO STAY ON THE DAIS.

I DON'T WANT PEOPLE COMING DOWN.

WE DON'T WANT ANY OF THAT.

THE FIRST TWO PLAYERS.

HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK? TRUSTEE HENRY AND DR.

ELIZALDE, YOU WILL BE COMPETING FOR THE FIRST QUESTION.

THE FIRST PERSON WITH THE HIGHEST ANSWER CAN DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANT TO PASS OR PLAY, RIGHT.

IF YOU DON'T GET THE HIGHEST ANSWER, THE OTHER TEAM WILL GET AN OPPORTUNITY, AND THEN THEY CAN DECIDE WHETHER THEY PASS OR PLAY.

IF YOU DECIDE TO PLAY, WE WILL MOVE ON THROUGH EACH QUESTION, SO EACH TEAM MEMBER WILL GET A CHANCE TO ANSWER A QUESTION, AND THEN YOU WILL IF YOU GET THREE STRIKES, THEN THE OTHER TEAM GETS AN OPPORTUNITY TO STEAL OKAY.

AND SO YOUR CLAPPER WILL BE USED AS YOUR IN THE OLD GAME THE BUZZER.

AND THAT'S HOW WE'LL DO IT.

AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET STARTED.

[INAUDIBLE] I'M SORRY? [INUDIBLE] EVERYBODY HAVE THEIR CLAPPER.

EVERYBODY GOT THEIR CLAPPER.

ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO GET STARTED.

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IT'S TIME FOR THE FRIENDLY FEUD, INTRODUCING THE GOVERNMENTAL KNIGHTS WITH TRUSTEE HENRY, TRUSTEE JOHNSON, TRUSTEE FLORES, TRUSTEE MACKEY AND TRUSTEE FOREMAN.

READY FOR ACTION.

AND ON THE OPPOSING SIDE, THE ACADEMIC WARRIORS WITH DR.

ELIZALDE, TRUSTEE MICCICHE .

TRUSTEE WEINBERG.

TRUSTEE WHITE AND TRUSTEE CARREÓN.

LET'S START THE FRIENDLY FEUD WITH YOUR HOST, FAYE MATTHEWS BRIDGES.

HELLO, HELLO, HELLO.

ALL RIGHT. ARE WE READY TO PLAY? WE'RE READY. ALL RIGHT.

YOU TWO WILL BE THE FIRST.

TRUSTEE HENRY.

DR. ELIZALDE, ARE YOU READY FOR THE FIRST QUESTION? 100 PEOPLE SURVEYED.

TOP EIGHT ANSWERS ON THE BOARD.

NAME KEYS TO AN EFFECTIVE MEETING? DR. ELIZALDE.

AN AGENDA. AN AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT. NUMBER FOUR.

TRUSTEE HENRY.

NO, NOT AT THIS POINT.

NOW, I GOTTA TELL YOU, YOU GOT 10S ON THE CLOCK.

IF YOU DON'T, THAT'S A STRIKE.

[INAUDIBLE] WE'RE GOING TO PLAY. [IMAUDIBLE] ALL RIGHT, ACADEMIC WARRIORS.

ALL RIGHT. TRUSTEE MICCICHE.

WE'VE GOT SEVEN ANSWERS ON THE BOARD.

CAN YOU NAME A KEY TO AN EFFECTIVE MEETING? BE PREPARED.

BE PREPARED.

IS THAT THERE? ALL RIGHT.

NOW, NEXT.

TRUSTEE WEINBERG. YES, IT'S YOUR TURN.

CAN YOU NAME A KEY TO AN EFFECTIVE MEETING? MEETING LOCATION.

KNOW THE LOCATION. KNOW THE MEETING LOCATION.

[INAUDIBLE].

OH, NO, YOU CANNOT CHEAT.

OH, THAT WASN'T STATED AT THE BEGINNING.

YOU GUYS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE PAYING ATTENTION.

ALL RIGHT, SHE GOT THE MEETING LOCATION.

TRUSTEE WHITE.

CAN YOU NAME KEYS TO AN EFFECTIVE MEETING? [INAUDIBLE] ON THE SHOW, RIGHT? SOME. OKAY.

KEYS TO EFFECTIVE LOCATION IS, BE PREPARED.

BE PREPARED.

IT'S ALREADY THERE.

BUMP! ALL RIGHT.

I THINK I ONLY HAVE ONE. OH.

TWO AXES. NO, 1X1.

THEY ONLY HAVE ONE X.

ALL RIGHT. TRUSTEE CARREÓN.

CAN YOU. YOU GOT ONE STRIKE.

ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT FIVE ANSWERS LEFT ON THE BOARD.

CAN YOU GIVE US A KEY TO AN EFFECTIVE MEETING? I WANT TO GO WITH.

DISCUSS ONE THING AT A TIME.

DISCUSS ONE ITEM AT A TIME.

HELLO. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT, WE'RE BACK, DR.

ELIZALDE. ALL RIGHT.

ONE STRIKE FOR ANSWERS ON THE BOARD.

CAN YOU NAME A KEY TO AN EFFECTIVE MEETING? LISTEN CAREFULLY.

LISTEN CAREFULLY.

I WARNED Y'ALL.

TRUSTEE MICCICHE.

WE HAVE TWO STRIKES FOUR ANSWERS ON THE BOARD.

A QUORUM. A QUORUM, IS THAT QUORUM UP THERE? ALL RIGHT.

GREAT POINT OF ORDER.

YES, SIR. THEY ALREADY HAVE THREE STRIKES.

NO THEY DIDN'T.

SARAH? BUILDING TRUST. I'MA GIVE YOU ONE CHANCE TO BUILD TRUST.

[INAUDIBLE] BE OBJECTIVE.

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STAY ON TOPIC.

STAY ON TOPIC.

IT'S UP THERE.

QUIT PLAYING WITH ME. ALL RIGHT.

GOVERNMENTAL KNIGHT. YOU GOT A CHANCE TO STEAL.

I AM THE WEAKEST LINK.

Y'ALL GOTTA ANSWER? [INAUDIBLE] KNOW THE HIERARCHY.

KNOW THE HIERARCHY.

THE HIERARCHY OF RULES.

GIVE US OUR POINT THAT'S IT.

OH, KNOW THE RULES.

ALL RIGHT, SO THE GOVERNMENTAL KNIGHTS WON THAT ROUND.

ALL RIGHT. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO NAME BOARD PRESIDENT.

HOLD ON. WE'RE GOING TO SHOW THE OTHER THE ANSWER THAT WAS THERE.

NUMBER TWO. PRESIDENT, YOUR PRESIDING OFFICER.

CAN YOU SEE? AM I IN YOUR WAY? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO THE GOVERNMENTAL KNIGHTS WON THAT ROUND.

NEXT QUESTION.

THIS IS BETWEEN TRUSTEE JOHNSON AND TRUSTEE MICCICHE.

YOU GOT YOUR CLAPPERS.

READY? ALL RIGHT.

WHO CAN NAME THE DUTIES OF A PRESIDENT? ALRIGHT. SET THE AGENDA.

IT'S A GOOD ANSWER.

IT MIGHT JUST MADE THE OUR KEY. REVIEW THE AGENDA.

OUR KEY. AND WE SAY SET THE AGENDA.

I THINK WE'LL GIVE HIM THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE SAME THING AS APPROVING THE AGENDA.

SO WE'LL, GIVE IT TO HIM.

WE LET TRUSTEE WEINBERG LOOK AT HER PAPER.

NOT PRESIDE THE SECOND ONE.

OKAY. THEY JUST GAVE YOU GUYS ONE.

ALL RIGHT. YOU WANT TO PASS OR PLAY? GO AHEAD AND PLAY. I GOT A FEW PRESIDENTS HAVE BEEN SITTING OVER HERE, Y'ALL BETTER BE ABLE TO ANSWER . IS THERE A QUESTION? YES.

THE NEXT QUESTION IS TRUSTEE FLORES.

NAME? DUTIES OF THE PRESIDENT.

[INAUDIBLE] DECIDE THE RULES.

RULES OF ORDER.

WAIT A MINUTE. YOU BETTER STOP TALKING.

ALL RIGHT. DECIDE QUESTIONS OF ORDER.

ALL RIGHT, I JUST HAVE TO GET ONE.

TRUSTEE MACKEY, DISSEMINATE THE LEGAL OPINION.

DISSEMINATE LEGAL OPINIONS.

HOLD ON A MINUTE. THAT'S NUMBER SIX, GUYS.

ALL RIGHT. TRUSTEE FOREMAN.

HERE'S THE AGENDA.

APPROVE THE AGENDA.

I'M SORRY, BUT THAT ONE'S ALREADY THERE.

STRIKE! ALL RIGHT.

TWO STRIKES.

FIRST STRIKE. OH, NO! IT'S ONE STRIKE. THANK YOU.

SORRY, PEOPLE.

ALL RIGHT, TRUSTEE HENRY, CAN YOU NAME THE DUTIES OF A PRESIDENT? YEAH. SET COMMITTEE CHAIRS? APPROVE COMMITTEES? WHAT ABOUT COMMITTEES? I'M SORRY APPROVED COMMITTEE CHAIRS? SET COMMITTEES? SOME WORD COMMITTEE CHAIRS.

SOME WORD. APPROVE COMMITTEES.

ALL RIGHT.

TRUSTEE JOHNSON SIGN LEGAL DOCUMENTS.

ALL RIGHT. TRUSTEE FLORES, CALL A SPECIAL MEETING.

ALL RIGHT.

THE GOVERNMENTAL KNIGHTS WON THAT ROUND.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

EXCUSE ME, HOST A POINT OF ORDER.

YES, MA'AM. THEY SHOULD NOT RECEIVE ALL OF THOSE POINTS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY KIND OF FLIPPED OVER SOME THINGS AHEAD OF TIME.

JUST SAYING.

GOOD THING WE GOT THE PRESIDENT WHO CAN PRESIDE OVER THIS MEETING AND.

OVERRULE TRUSTEE.

HOW BOUT WE GO TO THE NEXT QUESTION? ALL RIGHT. ARE WE READY NOW? THIS IS BETWEEN TRUSTEE FLORES.

TRUSTEE WEINBERG.

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WHO CAN NAME THE HIERARCHY RULES IN A DALLAS ISD BOARD MEETING? OOH, THAT WAS CLOSE.

GO AHEAD LEGAL.

ALL RIGHT. YOU GUYS GOING TO PASS OR PLAY, ACADEMIC WARRIORS? THEY'RE GOING TO PLAY. THE ACADEMIC WARRIORS ARE GOING TO PLAY.

ALL RIGHT. HUNDRED PEOPLE SURVEYED.

WE'VE GOT FOUR ANSWERS LEFT ON THE BOARD.

TRUSTEE? HERE. CAN YOU NAME THE HIERARCHY OF RULES IN THE DALLAS ISD BOARD MEETING? OH, THE OTHER ONE WAS STATE POLICY.

IT'S NOT THE MOTION.

IT'S NOT THE ORDER OF THE MOTION.

IT WAS, ITS POLICY.

STATE POLICY.

ROBERTS WHEN YOU SAY STATE, I WAS THINKING LEGAL.

SO WE ALREADY GOT LEGAL.

ONE STRIKE.

TRUSTEE CARREÓN.

I PROMISE YOU, I'M GONNA GO WITH LOCAL POLICY.

LOCAL POLICIES.

ALL RIGHT.

DR. ELIZALDE, WE'RE BACK TO YOU.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO I KNEW.

ALL RIGHT.

100 PEOPLE SURVEYED.

TOP 100 QUESTIONS ON THE BOARD.

THREE ANSWERS LEFT WITH ONE STRIKE.

YES, THERE'S ONE STRIKE.

ONE STRIKE. ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

ALL RIGHT, TRUSTEE MICCICHE, YOU'RE UP NEXT.

CAN YOU NAME THE HIERARCHY OF RULES IN THE DALLAS ISD BOARD MEETING? CUSTOM AND PRACTICE.

CUSTOMS AND PRACTICE.

IT'S A BUMP.. THAT'S A GOOD ANSWER.

BUT WE ONLY HAD FIVE AND SO IT DIDN'T MAKE OUR LISTING.

OKAY SO THAT'S A GREAT ANSWER.

SO OUT OF THE 100 IT DIDN'T MAKE OUR SURVEY.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

TRUSTEE WEINBERG, CAN YOU NAME THE HIERARCHY OF RULES IN A DALLAS ISD BOARD MEETING? WE'VE GOT TWO STRIKES AND TWO ANSWERS LEFT ON THE BOARD.

THAT'S A BUZZ.

YOU JUST DID THE TEN MINUTE CLOCK, SO GIVE US ANOTHER STRIKE.

ALL RIGHT. IS THAT OUR THREE STRIKES? ALL RIGHT, GOVERNMENTAL KNIGHTS, YOU GOT A CHANCE TO STEAL.

SPECIAL RULES.

SPECIAL RULES.

ALL RIGHT, SO THE GOVERNMENTAL KNIGHTS TAKE THAT ROUND.

ALL RIGHT. ARE WE'VE ALREADY WON THREE OUT OF FIVE.

THAT'S THE END OF THE GAME.

NEXT QUESTION.

YES. STANDING STANDING RULES WAS THE NEXT THE LAST ONE.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW NEXT QUESTION.

THIS WILL BE BETWEEN TRUSTEE MACKEY AND TRUSTEE WHITE.

OH. ALL RIGHT.

YOU ALL READY? WHO CAN NAME THE BASIC CONCEPTS OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER 100 PEOPLE SURVEYED? [INAUDIBLE] THE BASIC CONCEPTS OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER A MOTION.

A MOTION.

SINGLE MOTION.

I FEEL LIKE THAT IS NUMBER ONE.

HOLD ON. OH! MAN. ALRIGHT, THIS SIDE.

ANYBODY WANT TO PICK? [INAUDIBLE] OH, YEAH.

I'M SORRY. ONE MOTION AT A TIME.

ONE MOTION AT A TIME.

ALL RIGHT. PASS OR PLAY.

PASS IT. ALL RIGHT.

OH! WHAT IS IT? YEAH. HERE WE GO.

HERE NOW. OKAY.

100 PEOPLE SURVEYED.

TOP FIVE ANSWERS ON THE BOARD.

TRUSTEE CARREÓN.

CAN YOU NAME A BASIC CONCEPT OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER? BUT TOP FIVE, [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT? RIGHT. ISN'T IT, WHERE THEY ORDER THEM AND GAVE IT TO US ON THAT? YEAH. BE COURTEOUS.

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OKAY. DR.

ELIZALDE, 100 PEOPLE SURVEYED.

TOP FIVE ANSWERS ON THE BOARD.

THREE LEFT, ONE STRIKE.

MAKE, FAIR OR UNBIASED DECISIONS.

MAKE UNBIASED DECISIONS.

YES. ALL RIGHT.

TRUSTEE MICCICHE.

TWO ANSWERS LEFT ON THE BOARD.

EFFICIENCY. EFFICIENCY.

WHAT IS HE GOING FOR? THE X SCORE.

GOOD ANSWER,JUST DIDN'T MAKE THE CUT.

OKAY. NO PRESSURE.

TRUSTEE WEINBERG.

TWO STRIKES.

AND CAN YOU NAME TWO ANSWERS LEFT ON THE BOARD? SO CAN YOU NAME A BASIC CONCEPT OF ROBERT'S RULE OF ORDER.

BASIC CONCEPT OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER IS I THINK IT'S ME.

PRESIDENT PRESIDES.

PRESIDENT PRESIDES.

ALL RIGHT. THE GOVERNMENTAL KNIGHT YOU GOT A CHANCE TO STEAL.

ALL RIGHT. NOW.

YEAH. RECOGNIZE THE RIGHTS OF THE MINORITY.

RECOGNIZE TO BE HEARD.

RIGHTS OF THE MINORITY.

[INAUDIBLE] WELL, THEN WE DON'T KNOW.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S SEE WHAT THEY ARE.

ACADEMIC WARRIORS TOOK THAT ROUND.

LET'S SEE. NUMBER TWO, ALLOW DEBATE NUMBER FOUR.

DISCUSSION DEBATE DISCUSSION.

REASONABLE LENGTH OF MEETINGS.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW NEXT WE HAVE OUR LIGHTNING ROUND.

IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN THE LIGHTNING ROUND.

YOU'RE GOING TO COMPETE ALL EVERYBODY AGAINST EACH OTHER OKAY.

THIS IS OUR LAST ROUND.

SO GET YOUR FLAPPERS READY AND WE WILL BEGIN.

NOW, THESE ARE SOME QUESTIONS THAT REALLY WEREN'T COVERED NECESSARILY IN THE TRAINING.

BUT BECAUSE YOU SIT ON THE BOARD, YOU SHOULD KNOW THESE ANSWERS.

[INAUDIBLE] YOU MIGHT DO BETTER IN THE LIGHTNING ROUND.

[INAUDIBLE] UTAH, ARE WE READY? WHAT IS THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF THIS BOARD THAT MUST BE PRESENT TO BEGIN A MEETING? FIVE. ALL RIGHT, MISS FOREMAN.

SHE WAS LAST FIVE.

ALL RIGHT, MISS FOREMAN.

GOT THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT, NEXT QUESTION.

BLANKS ARE PREPARED TO RECORD WHAT OCCURRED IN A MEETING.

MINUTES. ALL RIGHT.

THAT WAS EASY.

OKAY. YEAH.

[INAUDIBLE]. THIRD QUESTION.

BLANK SETS THE ORDER OF BUSINESS IN A MEETING AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT QUESTION.

THE EASY ONES. WHAT VOTE IS REQUIRED TO CONDUCT BUSINESS? [INAUDIBLE].

WHAT DID YOU SAY? MAJORITY IS CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT.

AND NEXT AND FINAL QUESTION.

IF YOU DISAGREE WITH A RULING BY THE CHAIR YOU CAN DO WHAT? APPEAL. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR PLAYING THE GAME.

I HOPE YOU ALL ENJOYED THIS.

[MUSIC], [INAUDIBLE].

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.