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[00:00:04]

IT'S 4:04 P.M..

WE HAVE A QUORUM AND THIS MEETING HAS BEEN DULY POSTED.

GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

EXCUSE ME. AND SUPERINTENDENT BUDGET WORKSHOP WITH THE DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES, IF YOU WILL, PLEASE STAND AND JOIN US FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE SALUTE TO THE TEXAS FLAG.

[PLEDGES] ALL RIGHT. THE FOLLOWING TRUSTEES ARE PHYSICALLY PRESENT AND A QOURUM OF THE BOARD IS PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT THIS LOCATION.

DISTRICT ONE TRUSTEE EDWIN FLORES.

DISTRICT TWO TRUSTEE SARAH WEINBERG.

DISTRICT THREE TRUSTEE DAN MICCICHE.

DISTRICT FOUR TRUSTEE CAMILLE WHITE [INAUDIBLE] CAMILLE WHITE.

EXCUSE ME. DISTRICT FIVE TRUSTEE MACKEY JOHNSON.

DISTRICT SIX TRUSTEE JOYCE FOREMAN.

DISTRICT SEVEN TRUSTEE BEN MACKEY.

DISTRICT EIGHT TRUSTEE JOE CORREON.

OUR SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS DR.

STEPHANIE ELIZALDE JOINS US.

AND I'M JUSTIN HENRY, BOARD PRESIDENT.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY.

OH, OKAY. TRUSTEES, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE DISCUSSION ITEMS.

[3. Discussion Item]

THE FIRST ONE IS THE 2024-2025 BUDGET PLANNING COMMITTEE.

DR. ELIZALDE I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT HENRY.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO DR.

ALFORD STEPHENS, OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

GOOD EVENING. PRESIDENT HENRY, TRUSTEES, DR.

ELIZALDE. THIS EVENING, WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THE 2024-25 BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS.

AND I'M GOING TO START WITH, THE AGENDA FOR TODAY.

I'LL BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS AND KIND OF EXPLAIN TO YOU ALL HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS.

AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO THE GENERAL FUND CONSIDERATIONS FOR 24-25, WHICH IS WHAT TODAY'S FOCUS WILL BE ON.

AND THEN WE HAVE AN ACTIVITY THAT WILL GO INTO, KIND OF BREAK UP ME TALKING AS MUCH AND TO ENGAGE WITH YOU ALL IN SOME OF THE PLANNING DISCUSSION.

AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE OUT FINALLY WITH NEXT STEPS AS WE PREPARE TO PLAN FOR THE 24-25 SCHOOL YEAR.

FIRST, LET ME BEGIN BY REMINDING US ALL THAT THE WORK THAT WE DO, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IS SO IMPORTANT.

AND AS WE DISCUSS THIS BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS, KEEP IN MIND THAT WE'RE GOING TO ANCHOR OUR PURPOSE AROUND OUR BELIEFS, WHICH IS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE ARE ALLOCATING RESOURCES TO SUPPORT EFFECTIVE INSTRUCTION, OF COURSE, PROVIDE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO ALL OF OUR OUR LEARNERS, AND, OF COURSE, UPHOLD THE EXCELLENCE THAT WE ARE ALREADY MAINTAINING.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON SEVERAL PRIORITIES, BUT SOME OF THE KEY PRIORITIES THAT WILL BE CONTINUE TO BE LIFTED UP ARE THOSE THAT ARE THAT ARE LISTED THERE, THAT WE ARE ALL, OF COURSE, FAMILIAR WITH.

AS I TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS, I WANT US TO FIRST THINK ABOUT WHEN WE ARE PLANNING A BUDGET AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT, WE'RE REALLY OPERATING IN THREE DIFFERENT BUDGET CYCLES, IF I CAN SAY IT THAT WAY.

AND SO WE ARE CLOSING OUT ONE SCHOOL YEAR.

WE'RE EXISTING IN A CURRENT YEAR, AND THEN WE'RE ALWAYS PLANNING FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

AND THEN ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, WE ARE ALSO FORECASTING AND PLANNING 3, 4 OR 5 YEARS OUT SO THAT WE HAVE SOME LONG TERM PLANNING IN PLACE AND ARE ABLE TO MAKE THE NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS ALONG THE WAY.

ALSO, AS WE THINK ABOUT THE BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS, SOME OF THE MAJOR VARIABLES THAT ARE HEAVY IN THE CONVERSATIONS STAND AROUND ENROLLMENT.

AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ENROLLMENT AS I PROCEED THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.

AND OF COURSE, CALCULATING OUR REVENUE, BECAUSE UNDERSTANDING THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT WE MUST MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE ARE EFFECTIVELY SUPPORTING, IN COMBINATION WITH THE PROJECTED REVENUE THAT WE ARE SCHEDULED TO RECEIVE ALWAYS IN, INTO US DETERMINING HOW OUR PRIORITIES WILL BE ANALYZED.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, AS I'VE SAID A MOMENT AGO, WE HAVE OUR PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE TO DISCUSS AND DETERMINE WHAT THEY ARE AND THEN IDENTIFYING WHAT THOSE CAMPUS NEEDS ARE AND THE NON CAMPUS NEEDS.

SO WE HAVE EACH OF THESE THINGS ARE NOT HAPPENING IN ISOLATION OR ONE AT A TIME.

THERE'S THIS ONGOING OVERLAP BETWEEN ALL OF THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT MUST TAKE PLACE ANYTIME YOU HAVE A PROCESS THAT YOU'RE FOLLOWING.

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AND THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK.

WE'VE LISTENED AND TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THE IMPORTANCE OF MOVING THE DISCUSSION E ARLIER IN THE YEAR, IN RESPONSE TO WHAT WAS SHARED AND COMMUNICATED LAST YEAR.

AND SO THUS WE HAVE OUR FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP HERE TODAY.

AND THEN AS WE CLOSE OUT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OTHER SCHEDULED MEETINGS THAT ARE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.

FROM TODAY'S MEETING, WE'LL ALSO HAVE, AS A PART OF THE PROCESS TO PROVIDE TRAINING ON WHAT THE SPRING BUDGET PROCESS LOOKS LIKE.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'LL HOST A SERIES OF COMMUNITY BUDGET MEETINGS, AND THEN WE'LL BEGIN TO DETERMINE AND FINALIZE OUR CAMPUS AND DEPARTMENTAL BUDGETS AND COMMUNICATE THOSE ASSUMPTIONS AND CONSIDERATIONS BACK TO YOU ALL AND TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, AT THE END OF THIS COMPLETE PROCESS, WE MUST HAVE A BUDGET IN PLACE PRIOR TO JULY 1ST, SO THE BOARD MUST ADOPT A BUDGET ON OR BEFORE JUNE 30TH.

NOW, AS I'VE SAID, THIS IS AN ONGOING AND RECURSIVE PROCESS, AND IN THE SPRING IS WHEN IT WHAT I CALL WHAT I USUALLY SAY, IT CATCHES ON FIRE.

BUT IN ACTUALITY, WE'RE BUDGETING AND PLANNING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR.

SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU LIKE A BROAD OVERVIEW OF WHAT THAT PLANNING PROCESS LOOKS LIKE.

NOW, I STARTED A MOMENT AGO TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ENROLLMENT AND HOW THAT IS A DRIVER IN DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAVE AS IT RELATES TO PLANNING AND FORECASTING FOR EACH YEAR.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE TREND DATA THAT'S SHOWN HERE ON THE SCREEN, YOU SEE THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED SOME ENROLLMENT DECLINE, THROUGHOUT MULTIPLE YEARS NOW.

BUT IF I JUST GO BACK TO COVID, THE COVID YEAR, I SHOULD SAY 19-20, WHERE WE HAVE THAT PEIMS SNAPSHOT, 153,861 STUDENTS.

AND THEN IN THE [INAUDIBLE] 20-21 SCHOOL YEAR, WE HAD THE DROP TO 145,000, JUST OVER 145,000 STUDENTS. AND SO THAT'S THAT LOSS IS JUST OVER ABOUT 8,700 KIDS.

AND SO WE ALL KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING DURING THOSE TIMES.

SO WE'VE BEEN STRATEGICALLY, TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO BUILD OUR ENROLLMENT BACK UP.

BUT NONETHELESS, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE TREND DATA THAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A PATTERN FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT.

IT APPEARS AS THOUGH ABOUT 1% OF OUR STUDENTS WERE LOSING, I SHOULD SAY, ABOUT 1% OF OUR TOTAL STUDENT ENROLLMENT IN COMPARISON TO THE PRIOR YEAR.

NOW I JUST WANT TO PAUSE FOR A MOMENT SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF QUANTIFY WHAT THAT IMPACT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS WE PLAN FOR THE 24-25 SCHOOL YEAR.

SO, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'VE HAD A VERY INTERESTING LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

AND OF COURSE, WE DID NOT GARNER ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO SUPPORT SCHOOLS, NOT IN THE FORM OF A BASIC ALLOTMENT.

AND SO THE BASIC ALLOTMENT CONTINUES TO BE $6,160.

AND IF I GO BACK FOR ONE MOMENT, YOU'LL SEE THAT FOR 23-24, WHICH IS THE CURRENT SCHOOL YEAR THAT WE ARE IN.

PEIMS SNAPSHOT IS ALWAYS IN OCTOBER AND IN PEIMS AND PEIMS SNAPSHOT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT IS THE SNAPSHOT DATE WHERE THE STATE LOOKS AT OUR ENROLLMENT AND THEY DETERMINE WHAT OUR NEXT YEAR'S FUNDING IS GOING TO BE BASED ON THAT COUNT OF STUDENTS.

SO THAT'S WHY PEIMS SNAPSHOT IS AN IMPORTANT DAY.

EVERY DAY IS IMPORTANT AS FAR AS STUDENTS COMING TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY, BECAUSE AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE ALSO IS A VARIABLE IN US GENERATING THAT FULL $6,160. BUT FOR THE SAKE OF THIS CONVERSATION, I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND FROM AN ENROLLMENT STANDPOINT WHAT THAT NUMBER MEANS.

SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT 139,305 KIDS AT THAT OCTOBER SNAPSHOT DATE, WE'RE NOW AS WE'RE FORECASTING FOR 24-25, WE'RE PROJECTING TO HAVE JUST OVER 137,000 KIDS OR STUDENTS.

AND SO THAT'S ABOUT A 1.3 OR 4% DECLINE, BECAUSE THE TREND DATA IS SHOWING US THAT WE ARE LOSING ABOUT 1% OF OUR STUDENT ENROLLMENT EACH YEAR AND SO IF WE HAD TO QUANTIFY THAT FOR A MOMENT, JUST IN SIMPLE MATH TERMS, IF YOU TAKE THAT $6,160 AND YOU MULTIPLY IT BY THAT 1,776, WHICH IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE $139,305 AND THE $137,529, THAT TELLS US THAT ABOUT $10.9 MILLION, IS THE IMPACT.

SO THAT MEANS THAT'S MONEY THAT WE WOULD NOT BE GETTING FROM THE STATE IF THIS ENROLLMENT PROJECTION HOLDS TRUE FOR THE 24-25 SCHOOL YEAR.

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OKAY. ANOTHER PART OF THE CONVERSATION WHEN WE'RE BUDGETING AND PLANNING BEYOND ENROLLMENT, AS YOU HEARD ME SAY A MOMENT AGO, IS LOOKING AT OUR REVENUE AND FORECASTING WHAT OUR REVENUE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

AND OF COURSE, PROPERTY VALUES AND LEVYING A TAX RATE AS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THAT CONVERSATION AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT OUR TAXABLE VALUES ARE. SO JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU YEAR OVER YEAR WHAT OUR VALUES HAVE LOOKED LIKE, FROM AN INCREASE STANDPOINT.

SO IF I JUST GO BACK TO 2019 AGAIN, WE HAD [INAUDIBLE] 8.29% TAXABLE VALUE INCREASE.

WE USUALLY FORECAST BETWEEN 4 AND 5%.

SO WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE EXCEEDED THAT PROJECTION AND I USE THE WORD PROJECTION VERY CONSIDERABLY BECAUSE FROM YEAR TO YEAR YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHAT THAT TAXABLE VALUE INCREASE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

AND OF COURSE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX RATE, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE LOWERED OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX RATE.

THOUGH OUR TAXES, OUR TAXABLE VALUES HAVE GONE UP, THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX RATE HAS GONE DOWN.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT IN THIS CONVERSATION.

AND OF COURSE, WITH THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WE WERE COMPRESSED DOWN TO A NEW MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX RATE.

SO LET ME EXPLAIN EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS.

SO FOR THE 2023 YEAR YOU SEE THAT 7.09%.

SO OUR VALUES INCREASED 7% IN COMPARISON TO 2022 IN 2022 THEY INCREASED JUST OVER 14%.

SO NOT AS MUCH, BUT THEY STILL INCREASED, AND AT FOR 2023, WE LEVIED A TAX RATE OF THAT 0.7718%.

THAT'S WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

WHEN WE ADOPTED THE BUDGET ORIGINALLY, IT WAS A HIGHER MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX RATE BECAUSE WE WERE UNDER OLD LAW.

THE LAW CHANGED IT COMPRESSED OUR TAX RATE DOWN EVEN FURTHER.

AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT MEANS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GENERATE LESS DOLLARS LOCALLY.

NOW THE STATE DOES MAKE UP FOR THAT LOSS, BUT WE DON'T GET ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY.

SO YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THE CUP IS STILL THE CUP RIGHT.

SO THE CUP DIDN'T GET BIGGER.

IT'S JUST THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOW MUCH WE ARE GENERATING ON THE LOCAL SIDE BASED ON OUR TAXABLE VALUES AND OUR TAX RATE IN COMPARISON TO WHAT THE STATE IS GOING TO MAKE UP FOR.

NOW, WE HAVE SEEN, AN IMPROVEMENT, IF I CAN SAY IT THAT WAY, AND WHAT OUR PROJECTED RECAPTURE PAYMENT WOULD BE.

IF YOU CAN RECALL FROM THE START OF THIS SCHOOL YEAR, WE WERE PROJECTED TO PAY JUST OVER $220 MILLION FOR RECAPTURE. BUT BECAUSE OUR TAX RATE WAS COMPRESSED DOWN AND WE'RE GOING TO GENERATE LESS, OUR RECAPTURE PAYMENT GOES DOWN AS WELL.

SO NOW WE'RE FORECASTING FOR 2024, OUR RECAPTURE PAYMENT TO BE JUST OVER $70 MILLION.

SO STILL RECAPTURE STILL PAYING MONEY BACK TO THE STATE.

BUT THE DEGREE TO WHICH WE ARE PAYING MONEY BACK TO THE STATE, IS LESSENED, BUT WE'RE STILL NOT GENERATING ANY ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FROM THE STATE TO SUPPORT NOT ONLY OUR ONGOING NEEDS, BUT THE NEW AND EMERGING NEEDS.

YOU ALL KNOW THAT GOODS AND SERVICES ARE MORE EXPENSIVE, THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

INFLATION IS STILL, HIGH.

AND WE HAVEN'T GENERATED WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FROM THE STATE TO HELP US SUPPORT THAT.

STATE AND FEDERAL REVENUE.

REAL QUICK HERE AGAIN, WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IN THE CONVERSATION THAT, WE'RE PROJECTED TO RECEIVE MORE STATE REVENUE.

REMEMBER, BECAUSE OUR TAX RATE WE'VE BEEN COMPRESSED DOWN.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GENERATE LESS LOCALLY, BUT WE'LL GET MORE FROM THE STATE.

BUT ALSO THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT AS WELL AS THAT, REMEMBER I SAID A MOMENT AGO, WE'RE STILL PROJECTED TO GET LESS STATE REVENUE BECAUSE OF OUR ENROLLMENT DECREASE. SO IF YOU HAVE FEWER STUDENTS, YOU GET LESS MONEY BASED BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING ALLOCATED BASED ON YOUR STUDENT ENROLLMENT.

ON THE FEDERAL REVENUE SIDE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE ESSER.

AND SO THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'VE SET ASIDE FUNDS TO HELP US, WITH THE ESSER CLIFF, BUT WE KNOW THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE GOING AWAY, AND THIS IS THE LAST YEAR OF THAT PARTICULAR FUNDING SOURCE.

AND ANYTIME YOU HAVE A FEDERAL FUNDING SOURCE, I SHOULDN'T SAY ANYTIME.

MOST TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE A FEDERAL FUNDING SOURCE, THERE'S INDIRECT COSTS THAT YOU CAN GENERATE FROM THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS.

SO BETWEEN ESSER GOING AWAY AND THE INDIRECT COSTS THAT WE WERE GENERATING FROM THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS, THAT RESULTS IN A LOSS OF

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REVENUE, OR I SHOULD SAY A DECREASE IN REVENUE.

AND THEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHANGES, AND YOU MAY HAVE READ ABOUT THIS, IT WAS I THINK IT GOT SOME MEDIA ATTENTION LAST WEEK.

THE DECREASE IN STUDENT HEALTH AND RELATED SERVICES, THE SHARS PROGRAM.

SO LAST YEAR, LATE SUMMER, WE WERE WE FOUND OUT OR NOT JUST DALLAS ISD, BUT DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE WERE MADE AWARE THAT THERE WERE GOING TO BE SOME PROGRAMMATIC CHANGES TO THE SHARS PROGRAM THAT IMPACTED THE WAY THAT WE COULD REIMBURSE, GET REIMBURSED FOR CERTAIN EXPENDITURES.

SO NEEDLESS TO SAY THAT DECLINE IN OR THAT PROGRAM CHANGE, I SHOULD SAY, DOES HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON THE REVENUE THAT WE WERE GETTING FROM THAT PROGRAM.

SO WE'VE HAD WE HAVE TO MAKE THE NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.

SO AS WE THINK ABOUT THE 24-25 SCHOOL YEAR, YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THAT THE CUP IS STILL THE CUP.

AND SO IN CONSIDERING THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT WE'RE PROJECTING TO HAVE AND LOOKING AT OUR OUR TAXABLE VALUES, IF YOU CAN ALSO RECALL THAT OUR BRIEFING LAST WEEK, THE TAX ROLL WAS ON THERE.

WE'VE GOTTEN OUR VALUES FROM DCAD SO THAT WE ARE ALL AWARE OF WHAT OUR OUR TOTAL TAX ROLL IS PROJECTED TO BE.

YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT ACROSS ALL FUNDING SOURCES IN OUR GENERAL FUND, THIS CONVERSATION IS JUST FOCUSED ON THE GENERAL FUND.

YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ARE PROJECTING TO GENERATE JUST OVER $1.7 BILLION.

SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT A BUDGET, YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE AS YOU START TO PLAN FOR YOUR EXPENDITURES.

WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT PLANNING FOR A BUDGET, THE GOAL SHOULD BE THAT YOUR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU HAVE COMING IN SHOULD BE GREATER THAN OR LESS THAN THE EXPENDITURES THAT YOU HAVE GOING OUT.

SO KEEPING THAT IN MIND, BEFORE WE MOVE INTO A FEW ACTIVITIES, RIGHT NOW WE'RE PLANNING AS THOUGH WE HAVE AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE EARLY PHASES OF THE PLANNING PROCESS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE I REITERATE THAT THIS IS JANUARY.

WE'RE JUST NOW REALLY GETTING STARTED WITH REALLY MAKING CERTAIN THAT WE'RE USING, THE BEST PROJECTIONS, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THIS IMPACTS DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE. BUT UNDERSTANDING WHERE OUR REVENUE IS, LEADS INTO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT TOTAL EXPENDITURES.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT IN PREVIOUS YEARS, USUALLY OUR REVENUE IS LESS THAN OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES.

AND WE'VE USED FUND BALANCE UNDER SOME OCCASIONS TO BALANCE THE BUDGET.

BUT AT THE END OF THE YEAR, ESPECIALLY IN THESE TIMES THAT WE'VE HAD ESSER, WE'VE HAD UNDERSPENDING AND ESSER TO HELP US OFFSET SOME OF THE TOTAL EXPENDITURES. AND AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE END UP, YOU KNOW, IN THE IN THE GREEN OR WE END UP IN THE BLACK, I SHOULD SAY, WHERE, THERE IS NO DEFICIT WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUDGET. AND SO, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE THINK ABOUT BUDGET PLANNING.

NOW, HOW IS A DOLLAR SPENT IN DALLAS ISD? THAT'S WHERE I WANT YOU TO PUT YOUR THINKING HATS ON FOR A MOMENT.

AND, JUST THINK ABOUT I HAVE THREE PICTURES HERE FOR YOU.

AND I JUST WANT YOU TO TAKE A MOMENT TO LOOK AT DOLLAR A, B, C, AND D, AND WHICH ONE DO YOU THINK IS IS CORRECT, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW WE ARE SPENDING OUR MONEY HERE IN DALLAS ISD? I SEE TWO RESPONSES BY HAND, BY SHOW OF HAND.

OKAY, WELL, I THINK Y'ALL GOT IT RIGHT.

YOU'VE SEEN ENOUGH OF THE BUDGET TO KNOW THAT SALARIES ARE A LARGE PART OF OUR EXPENDITURES.

AND IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT DOLLAR A AND DOLLAR C, THEY ARE LITERALLY THE SAME LIKE VERY SIMILAR.

BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE THOSE LINES ARE DRAWN.

YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 50% ON PERSONNEL AND 80% ON PERSONNEL, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE TO QUANTIFY THOSE, THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS.

AND SO THIS THIS IS HOW THAT DOLLAR BREAKS DOWN WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING AND PLANNING FOR 24-25 AND WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THIS YEAR.

AND SO OF COURSE, 80% OF OUR BUDGET IS IN OUR PEOPLE AND MAKING CERTAIN THAT, WE ARE SUPPORTING THEM IN THE BEST MEANS POSSIBLE. AND THEN JUST UNDER PAYROLL OR CONTRACTED SERVICES, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE RECAPTURE.

SO THE RECAPTURE PAYMENT OR ESTIMATED RECAPTURE BUDGET AMOUNT IS A PART OF THAT $222 MILLION.

AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS AND OTHER OPERATING COSTS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE PERCENT'S THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THOSE DIFFERENT, BUCKETS AS IT RELATES TO A BUDGET.

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NOW FOR A QUICK ACTIVITY.

OH, BEFORE WE GET THERE, I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF.

I THINK I'M GETTING EXCITED.

OKAY, SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT PLANNING FOR A BUDGET, RIGHT.

I'VE ALREADY SHARED WITH YOU WHAT OUR PROJECTED REVENUE IS.

IT'S THE NUMBER IN GREEN.

IT'S THE $1.7 BILLION.

RIGHT.

NOW I HAVE TAKEN THE LIBERTY OF ACCOUNTING FOR PAYROLL JUST AS IT IS TODAY, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE PAYROLL OBLIGATION IS MET. LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ANY WIGGLE ROOM THERE.

RIGHT. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE REQUIRED ITEMS, LET'S LET'S TALK ABOUT REQUIRED ITEMS FOR A MOMENT.

AND WHEN I SAY REQUIRED, I'M TALKING ABOUT, AREAS THAT WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR IN OUR BUDGET BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T EXIST WITHOUT THESE THINGS.

RECAPTURE, THE STATE HAS DEFINED THAT WE HAVE, WE ARE A RECAPTURE DISTRICT.

WE ARE A PROPERTY WEALTHY DISTRICT.

AS SUCH, WE HAVE A FINANCIAL OBLIGATION UNDER CURRENT LAW TO REPAY THOSE THOSE DOLLARS OR THEY REDUCE IT FROM OUR ALLOCATION.

SO IT'S GOING TO COME WHETHER WE PAY IT OR NOT.

UTILITIES. SO YES, WE HAVE TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON, THE WATER, THE GAS, ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE KNOW ARE IMPORTANT TO ANY OPERATING FACILITY.

INSURANCE.

WE HAVE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT ALL OF OUR PROPERTY IS EFFECTIVELY INSURED, JUST LIKE YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE.

WE ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE, ENSURING OUR, OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR FACILITIES.

AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT, DALLAS OR I SHOULD SAY TEXAS AND THE WACKY WEATHER THAT WE HAVE HERE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT OUR FACILITIES ARE ADEQUATELY MAINTAINED.

FUEL. WE'VE GOT TO GET OUR STUDENTS TO SCHOOL NON-NEGOTIABLE.

THEY ARE OUR WHY.

THEY ARE OUR PURPOSE. AND WE HAVE TO MAKE CERTAIN WE GET THEM HERE.

AND THEN WE HAVE, OF COURSE, DALLAS COUNTY.

THEY CONDUCT OUR APPRAISALS AND THEN I WANT TO I SHOULD HAVE PUT EXTERNAL AUDITORS THERE BECAUSE THAT SAYS AUDITORS, BUT THAT'S EXTERNAL AUDITORS.

SO ANYTIME WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE, WE HAVE, WEAVER AND TIDWELL THAT DOES OUR FINANCIAL AUDITS, WE HAVE E-RATE AUDITS, WE HAVE DIFFERENT AUDITS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO CONDUCT AS A PUBLIC INSTITUTION.

SO THOSE ARE NON-NEGOTIABLES.

SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE TOTAL REVENUE THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE PROJECTING TO HAVE, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT PAYROLL JUST SUSTAINING WHERE WE ARE, THAT'S NOT RAISES.

THAT'S NOT ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S MAINTAINING THE CURRENT PAYROLL THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

AND WHEN YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE AREAS THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH NON-NEGOTIABLE, WHEN YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL OF THAT, WE'RE LEFT WITH ABOUT $142 MILLION, OR 8% OF THE REVENUE OF OUR TOTAL REVENUE, BECAUSE THE OTHER 92% IS I'M GOING TO USE THE WORDS ACCOUNTED FOR.

OKAY. CAN YOU HELP ME REAL QUICK? CAN YOU PASS OUT THE SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET AN ENVELOPE.

WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE RIGHT HERE.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET AN ENVELOPE BECAUSE I NEED YOU TO HELP ME BALANCE THIS BUDGET.

CAN Y'ALL HELP ME DO THAT? Y'ALL ARE QUIET.

SO WE'VE TALKED A MOMENT, OR I'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ABOUT $142 MILLION, JUST OVER $142 MILLION REMAINING.

AND WHILE THESE ARE NOT ALL OF OUR PRIORITIES, THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE MAJOR ACTIVITIES AND INITIATIVES AND PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE.

SO IF YOU'LL OPEN UP YOUR ENVELOPE, YOU HAVE 10 $1 BILLS.

AND EACH OF THOSE $1 BILLS HAS AN ACTIVITY OR A PROGRAM LISTED ON THEM, YA'LL SEE THEM.

YOU GOT I SEE YOU TRUSTEE FLORES I SEE YOU.

SO I WANT YOU TO TAKE YOUR YOUR 10 $1 BILLS AND JUST FOR A MOMENT AND TEAM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO.

I WANT YOU TO JUST LOOK AT EACH OF THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES.

I DIDN'T GIVE YOU A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON PURPOSE FOR THIS FIRST ITERATION.

SO KEEPING KIDS IN MIND, OKAY BECAUSE I HAVE THEM COVERING UP SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT I DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE YET.

I JUST WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON THE PROGRAMS AND THE ACTIVITIES, AND I JUST WANT YOU TO PUT THEM IN AN ORDER.

HOW WOULD YOU ORDER THEM IF YOU ONLY HAVE $142 MILLION? JUST OVER $142 MILLION AND YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THESE TEN THINGS.

SO JUST ORDER THEM.

YES, SIR.

I'M MISSING A KEY COMPONENT, WHICH IS ANY EVALUATION ON THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT OF THESE, I UNDERSTAND.

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BUT FOR THIS CONVERSATION I'M NOT GOING TO PUT ROI.

I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE THE ROI INFORMATION FOR YOU AT THE MOMENT.

JUST KNOW THAT THESE ARE IMPORTANT AREAS THAT ARE NEEDED TO SUPPORT OUR LEARNING.

YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE.

I'M JUST SAYING IT'S A VERY CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THIS ACTIVITY.

POINT TAKEN. YES, SIR.

AND AS YOU THINK THROUGH THESE, I KNOW YOU AS TRUSTEE MACKEY JUST RAISED IN THE CONVERSATION TO REALLY KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO TRULY ORDER THESE, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S THE IMPACT? WHAT'S THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT? VERY CLEAR POINT MADE, BUT JUST THINKING THROUGH THESE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES AS PRESENTED.

MY WONDERING IS, OUR WONDERING IS HOW YOU WOULD ORDER THESE THINGS? SO ONCE YOU HAVE THEM, YOU KNOW, IN AN ORDER THAT YOU COULD LIVE WITH FOR THIS PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STEP WHEN EVERYBODY KIND OF LOOKS UP.

SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME TIME.

OKAY. SO NOW I'M GOING TO PUT JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A WHAMMY IN THERE.

SO NOW I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE ORDER IN WHICH YOU JUST [INAUDIBLE] PLACED EACH OF THESE $1 BILLS AND RECOGNIZING THAT YOU HAVE JUST OVER $142 MILLION.

BUT NOW I'M SAYING, OH, BUT WE HAVE A REVENUE SHORTFALL OF JUST OVER $80 MILLION.

I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE ORDER THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE AND THINK ABOUT IF YOU WOULD CHANGE IT, IF YOU WOULD CHANGE ANY OF THE ORDERING THAT YOU HAVE CURRENTLY. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HIGH QUALITY INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS ARE AT THE MOMENT.

YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH CYBER SECURITY IS AT THE MOMENT, BUT IF YOU KNEW YOU HAD A DEFICIT, WOULD THAT CHANGE THE WAY YOU'VE ORDERED THE PRIORITIES? AND THEN FINALLY THESE ARE THE ESTIMATED COST OF AGAIN, JUST SOME OF THE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE HERE.

SO NOW THAT YOU SEE THOSE ESTIMATED COST, WOULD YOU CHANGE THE ORDER THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE? THAT'S THE WONDERING AND I ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AS A TEAM WHEN WE'RE BUDGETING AND PLANNING AND TRYING TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THE CHALLENGES OF HAVING A REVENUE SHORTFALL.

BUT WE HAVE IMPORTANT PRIORITIES THAT HAVE A TRUE RETURN ON INVESTMENT, AND WE KNOW THAT EACH OF THESE AREAS ARE IMPORTANT. THEN HOW DO WE DETERMINE HOW WE PRIORITIZE THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO RECEIVE FUNDING TO THE DEGREE THAT WE CAN? ANY THOUGHTS? I HAVE A QUESTION.

ABSOLUTELY. ARE THESE THE ONLY LEVERS? NO, THESE ARE JUST THESE ARE THE TEN FOR THIS CONVERSATION TODAY.

SO THESE ARE, THE LEVERS THAT WE ARE MANY WE ARE CURRENTLY FUNDING, AND THEY HAVE PROVEN TO BE A PRIORITY FOR OUR DISTRICT.

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AND IF WE WANT TO SUSTAIN THEM.

BUT THERE ARE OTHERS THAT, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T MAKE THIS LIST JUST BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO KEEP IT, AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE HIGH QUALITY INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS.

YES, MA'AM. DO WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, THE BUDGET THAT WE HAD THE PREVIOUS YEAR FOR HIGH QUALITY INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIAL? YES, MA'AM. WE DO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE BUDGET WE HAD FOR THE PRIOR YEAR DO WE TRY TO MATCH THAT SAME BUDGET OR ARE WE DOING IT BASED ON NEED? SO NO, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MATCH THAT SAME BUDGET.

IN FACT, THIS NUMBER THAT'S PRESENTED HERE IS LESS THAN WHAT WE HAD IN PREVIOUS YEARS, BECAUSE WHEN WE SINCE WE'VE BEEN PURCHASING HIGH QUALITY INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS, WE'VE WANTED THE NEW HIGH QUALITY INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS THAT WE'VE PURCHASED WE USE ESSER TO HELP SUPPORT THAT NEED IN THE BEGINNING.

SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE, BUT THEN THERE ARE SOME CONSUMABLE ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SUSTAIN AND MAINTAIN YEAR OVER YEAR.

AND SO ANYTIME YOU HAVE A NEW CURRICULUM ADOPTION, THERE'S OF COURSE SOME COSTS THAT ARE AT THE BEGINNING THAT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO SUSTAIN, BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHERS THAT YOU DO HAVE TO MAINTAIN.

SO THIS DOES TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE NEEDS, THE THE NEW AND EXISTING, THE CURRENT NEEDS AND THE NEW NEEDS THAT WE NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR IN THE UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR. HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE NEW NEEDS WILL BE BASED ON WHAT? I'M GOING TO ASK OUR CHIEF OF ACADEMICS TO COME AND HELP ME WITH THAT PARTICULAR QUESTION, SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW WE HAVE IDENTIFIED NEEDS FOR HIGH QUALITY INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS. TRUSTEE FOREMAN.

YES. THE WAY WE DIFFERENTIATED YEAR ONE VERSUS YEAR TWO REALLY YEAR ONE, A LOT OF THE MATERIALS WERE FOR TEACHERS AND WE HAVE THAT.

OUR SUSTAINABILITY FOR YEAR TWO WILL LOOK DIFFERENT BECAUSE A LOT OF IT IS THE CONSUMABLES FOR THE STUDENTS, WHICH RIGHT NOW ROUGHLY IS ABOUT HALF OF WHAT WE STARTED WITH YEAR ONE.

AND THEN FOR YEAR THREE AND YEAR FOUR WE'LL DIFFERENTIATE THAT BASED AROUND MATERIALS, INVENTORY SUPPLY AND THEN AND THEN WHAT EXACTLY WE NEED FOR THOSE YEARS. AND I GUESS THE BIG QUESTION FOR ME IS, IS THAT WE CONTINUE TO LOSE STUDENTS AND ARE WE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE DROP IN THE STUDENT NUMBER? YES, MA'AM. WE DO ALL OF OUR, THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD QUESTION, BECAUSE WHEN WE WHEN WE BUDGET TO BUY THE MATERIALS AND SEND IT TO THE CAMPUSES, BY THE TIME KIDS SHOW UP IN AUGUST, THEY MIGHT BE IN DIFFERENT PLACES OR THE NUMBERS MIGHT HAVE BEEN OFF.

AND SO FOR THAT, WE HAVE A TEAM THAT REALLY MAKES SURE THAT WE INVENTORY, WE MOVE THINGS AROUND, AND THEN WHATEVER WE DON'T HAVE, WE HAVE A SURPLUS THAT WE DON'T NEED TO CONTINUE TO BUY IN THE FUTURE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION NEEDS.

YES, MA'AM. SO WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE'RE BUDGETING FOR ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONAL NEEDS, IS, IS THAT PROJECTION BASED ON JUST WHAT WE KNOW WE NEED, OR IS THAT PROJECTION BASED ON WHAT WE THINK MIGHT HAPPEN? BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE HAVE THOSE UNEXPECTED THINGS HAPPEN.

SO HOW IS THAT DONE? IT'S A COMBINATION OF LOOKING AT OUR, OF COURSE, PLANNING FOR EMERGING OR NEW NEEDS, BUT ALSO IT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION THAT WE'VE DEFERRED SOME MAINTENANCE. AND BECAUSE NOT ALL BOND PROJECTS ARE PAID FOR, NOT ALL MAINTENANCE PROJECTS ARE BOND FUNDED.

AND SO, WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT NEW NEEDS COULD EMERGE, THERE'S A THERE'S AN AMOUNT TRUSTEE FOREMAN THAT WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT PIECE OF THAT PARTICULAR BUDGET.

BUT ALSO WE'VE LOOKED AT IF WE'VE DEFERRED NOT DOING SOMETHING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND IF I CAN JUST I'LL USE POOLS AS AN EXAMPLE.

I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND ME TRUSTEE, BUT HE'S NOT EVEN HERE.

AND SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT POOLS.

RIGHT. AND, THE COST TO MAINTAIN SOME OF OUR SWIMMING POOLS, SOME OF THOSE COSTS, CAN WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT EVERY YEAR BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE ARE AGING FACILITIES.

AND SO WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO MAINTAIN THOSE.

AND SOMETIMES THERE'S DEFERRED MAINTENANCE THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE ON SOME OF THOSE ON PROJECTS SUCH AS THAT.

SO YES, THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING COST THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE UNTIL, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT PARTICULAR ITEM IS REPLACED.

SO THERE'S AN ASSESSMENT THAT HAS TO, YOU KNOW, BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AGE OF THE FACILITIES AND WE HAVE WE STILL HAVE STEAM BOILERS IN SOME PLACES.

AND SO AGAIN, WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED [INAUDIBLE] THROUGH SOME CONTRACTED SERVICES IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR TEAM CANNOT DIRECTLY TAKE CARE OF.

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BUT WE DO HAVE TO PLAN FOR THOSE UNEXPECTED EVENTS THAT MAY ARISE AS WELL.

THE REASON I ASK THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SOME OF OUR MAINTENANCE NEEDS ARE ARE TAKEN CARE OF BY BOND FUNDS.

YES, MA'AM. AND SO HOW ARE WE IDENTIFYING THE TWO DIFFERENT ONES? I KNOW I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO ANSWER THAT NOW, THAT'S A QUESTION.

YES, MA'AM, THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF BUDGETING.

THANK YOU. AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS IN REGARDS TO EARLY LEARNING.

EARLY LEARNING HAS BEEN A STRATEGIC, PRIORITY THAT WE'VE HAD AT LEAST FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS.

HOW DO WE DO ASSESSMENTS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING? HAVE WE LOOKED AT, AND THAT'S NOT JUST EARLY LEARNING, THAT'S ANY OF THE PRIORITIES.

I JUST HAPPEN TO PICK THAT ONE OUT BECAUSE IT'S HERE.

BUT HAVE WE DONE AN ASSESSMENT TO LOOK AT THAT, TO MAKE SURE THAT I THINK IT'S LIKE $3 MILLION WE WERE GIVING EACH YEAR EXTRA TO EARLY LEARNING OR SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT AMOUNT.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING ASSESSMENTS TO ENSURE, THAT THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME OF THESE SAME STRATEGIC INITIATIVES FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, AND IT MIGHT BE TIME FOR A CHANGE ON SOME OF THEM.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION CONCERNING SCHOOL SAFETY.

YES, MA'AM. I KNOW THAT IT WAS MANDATED THAT WE HAVE A EITHER A POLICE OFFICER OR A SECURITY OFFICER ON EVERY CAMPUS.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE DID RECEIVE SOME FUNDS FROM THE STATE.

IS THAT FUNDING GOING TO CONTINUE, OR WAS THAT A ONE TIME INITIATION BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD WE HAD TO HAVE IT? SO IT'S A MANDATE THAT'S UNDERFUNDED.

SO WE WILL RECEIVE THE ALLOCATION THAT THE STATE WILL GIVE US.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S NOT ANYWHERE NEAR [INAUDIBLE] $25 MILLION, WHICH IS WHAT THE INITIATIVE TRULY COSTS.

WE'RE JUST OUR PLAN HAS A SCALE IN IT OVER, OVER A FEW YEARS.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT'S AN UNDERFUNDED MANDATE.

SO WE ARE GETTING SOME FUNDS, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO PAY A FULL ONE, A FULL OFFICER OR ARMED GUARD SALARY.

SO AS REQUIRED.

SO IN ESSENCE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TO ANSWER MY QUESTION IS THAT WE WILL RECEIVE WE WILL CONTINUE TO RECEIVE THAT FUNDING.

IT WASN'T A ONE TIME.

IT'S FOR THE BIENNIUM, THE TWO YEARS, FOR TWO YEARS.

AND SO BASICALLY, IS THIS PROGRAM SUPPOSED TO RUN FOR TWO YEARS OR IS IT GOING TO BE EXTENDED PAST THAT TWO, WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ABSORB THE FULL COST AFTER THE TWO? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE EXPECTATION IS THAT WE IMPLEMENT THIS AND IT'S IN PLACE FOR FOREVERMORE, NOT JUST FOR TWO YEARS. OKAY.

AND ALSO, CONCERNING THE TECHNOLOGY AND CYBERSECURITY, DOES THAT INCLUDE DOES THIS TECHNOLOGY PORTION INCLUDE THE EQUIPMENT NEEDED FOR THE STUDENTS, SUCH AS LAPTOPS? YES, MA'AM.

OKAY. SO, CURRENTLY, ARE WE PURCHASING BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY IS EVER SO EVOLVING EVERY DAY ARE WE PURCHASING? I'M QUITE SURE WE ARE PURCHASING SOME EVERY YEAR BECAUSE SOME OF THEM HAVE TO BE REPLACED BECAUSE OUR BLESSINGS ARE DOING WHAT THEY DO, MEANING NOT TAKING CARE OF IT PROPERLY.

SO, ARE WE HAVE WE CONSIDERED, ARE THERE ANY PROGRAMS THAT WE CAN LEASE VERSUS DOING AN OUTRIGHT PURCHASE THAT WOULD SAVE US SOME MONEY? I HAVEN'T PERSONALLY, MY TEAM AND I HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO, THE LEASING OPTION, I CAN I CAN FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND GET SOME FEEDBACK.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT AS IT RELATES TO TECHNOLOGY, WE OUR CURRICULUM, MUCH OF OUR CURRICULUM IS, IS, YOU KNOW, ONLINE.

AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STUDENTS HAVE, YOU KNOW, A DEVICE IN HAND.

AND AS YOU MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN INVENTORY OF THE DEVICES AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE CAMPUSES ARE ABLE TO TO PROVIDE OUR STUDENTS WITH WHAT THEY NEED AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

AND ALSO, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT, I MEAN, JUST YOU PUT THIS ONE.

WELL, I'M NOT SAYING YOU, BUT YOU PROVIDED US WITH THESE WONDERFUL BOOKS WITH THIS, ONE ESSER ESSER FUNDING WAS USED FOR A IT SAVED US.

I FEEL MY PERSONAL OPINION BECAUSE, IT WAS ALMOST LIKE IT WAS.

WELL, I DON'T WANT TO USE THE TERMINOLOGY OF SURPLUS, AND IT WAS RAINING MONEY ON THE STREETS FOR US, BUT WE DID HAVE A LOT OF MONEY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THINGS WITH.

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AND I NOTICED THAT YOU ONLY HAVE TWO ITEMS ON HERE, CONCERNING THE ESSER FUNDS.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION CONCERNING THE ESSER FUNDS, I KNOW SOME THINGS WE PURCHASED OUTRIGHT.

SO, THERE IS NO THAT THAT'S IT.

LIKE WE PURCHASED THE WI-FI TOWERS OR SOME TYPE OF TOWERS, COMMUNICATION TOWERS WE PURCHASED, WITH ESSER FUNDS.

SO ARE THERE ANY ESSER FUNDS THAT WE HAD A CASH OUTLAY OF THAT WE PURCHASED THAT WE WILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN OTHER THAN THE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED HERE.

OKAY. SO LET ME LET ME BE CLEAR ON TO MAKE SURE I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION TRUSTEE WHITE, THOSE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED THERE, THOSE ARE JUST EXAMPLES OF ESSER FUNDED ACTIVITIES, THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ESSER FUNDED ACTIVITIES THAT EQUAL THAT $36.5 MILLION THAT'S NOTED THERE.

I LISTED THOSE TWO AS EXAMPLES JUST SO YOU CAN HAVE SOME CONTEXT AS IT RELATES TO OR EXAMPLES OF SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY, FUNDING WITH ESSER.

SO I BELIEVE YOUR QUESTION IS, ARE THERE SOME ESSER ACTIVITIES THAT WE WANT TO SUSTAIN? AND, AND THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS, IS YES.

AND ALSO KEEP IN MIND WE DID SET ASIDE SOME FUNDS IN OUR FUND BALANCE TO HELP US SUSTAIN SOME OF THOSE INITIATIVES AND ACTIVITIES. ALSO, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH A RETURN ON INVESTMENT PROCESS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT AND EVALUATING OUR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, AND THIS IS STUFF EARLY PART OF THE BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS.

SO WHILE WE MAY NOT HAVE ALL OF THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN THIS MOMENT, THIS IS THE TIME OF THE YEAR WHERE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT EVERYTHING SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET INSTEAD OF COMING IN MARCH, AS WE'VE DONE IN PREVIOUS YEARS, AND KIND OF SHARED OUR ASSUMPTIONS AND WHATNOT. THIS IS, AGAIN, AN EFFORT TO SHOW YOU ALL WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT IN THE PLANNING PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S EARLY, IT'S JANUARY, AND, GET SOME FEEDBACK SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE PROCESS THAT THE TEAM WILL BE GOING THROUGH TO MAKE THESE IMPORTANT DECISIONS SO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE ASSUMPTIONS AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE CONTAINED IN THE BUDGET, YOU'LL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE THIS AS YOUR FOREFRONT.

YOU'LL REMEMBER THIS FROM THE JANUARY CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD.

DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION TRUSTEE WHITE.

SOMEWHAT. OKAY.

IF I CAN PROVIDE ANY MORE CLARITY, PLEASE RE-ASK AND I WILL DEFINITELY DO MY BEST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

THANK YOU. YES, I WANT TO.

EXCUSE ME. LOOKING AT SCHOOL SAFETY, I SEE, I THINK, WHAT, $5.2.

YES, SIR. WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL? LIKE, WHAT'S THE BREAKDOWN OF $5.2? IS THAT THAT CANNOT BE THE ENTIRE BUDGET, CORRECT? OR IS IT? SO THAT $5.2 TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION THE POSITIONS THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO ADD? IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE WHOLE PLAN, THERE'S LIKE A $25 MILLION PLAN THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

SO IT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION THE PERSONNEL, FOR THIS UPCOMING THIS SINGLE YEAR, THE 24-25 SCHOOL YEAR ONLY, THE PERSONNEL, THE NECESSARY SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS THAT THE ARMED GUARDS OR OFFICERS MUST HAVE, THE TRAINING THAT MUST TAKE PLACE WHEN WE ONBOARD THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND ANY OTHER SAFETY AND SECURITY NEEDS THAT FALL UNDER THERE.

BUT THE MAJOR PIECES TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, TRUSTEE JOHNSON, ARE THE PERSONNEL AND THE SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, WITH THE PERSONNEL AND THE TRAINING.

OKAY. WILL WE RECEIVE OR CAN YOU GIVE US A BREAKDOWN OF THAT? ABSOLUTELY. LIKE THE WHOLE SAFETY AND SECURITY WHERE EACH DOLLAR GOES, I KNOW SALARIES AND ETC.

OR THE RESOURCES THAT COME WITH THAT, BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SAFETY AND SECURITY, SCHOOL SAFETY, THAT'S THAT'S A VERY, VERY BROAD SUBJECT MATTER.

SURE. AND EVERYBODY LOOKS AT SAFETY AND SECURITY FROM DIFFERENT LENSES.

RIGHT. WHAT'S WHAT'S THEIR WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEIR MANDATORY REQUIREMENTS ARE ON THIS COMMUNITY VERSUS OTHER COMMUNITY SCHOOL VERSUS ANOTHER SCHOOL.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, A VERY BROAD ALSO, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE SAME THING WHEN IT COMES TO RACIAL EQUITY.

I KNOW IT SAID ONGOING RACIAL EQUITY AND PUBLIC SCHOOL CHOICE INITIATIVES.

SO TO ME, RACIAL EQUITY AND PUBLIC SCHOOL CHOICE, THAT'S SEPARATE ITEMS FOR ME.

OF COURSE. SO WHAT IS THE BUDGET FOR RACIAL EQUITY? IS IT STILL $3.6, $3.2? IT'S ACTUALLY JUST OVER $6 MILLION.

BUT I CAN GET THE I CAN SHARE THE BREAKOUT.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT FOR THOSE RESOURCES THAT THAT COMES ALONG WITH THAT.

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SO THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WELL AS, I'M GETTING ALL OF MINE OUT RIGHT NOW, AS WELL AS, EARLY LEARNING.

I'M A BIG COMPONENT OF EARLY LEARNING.

AND YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT MAKES UP THE EARLY LEARNING BUDGET? YES. AND WHAT AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

LIKE ITEMIZE IT. WHAT THAT LOOK LIKE? I KNOW SALARIES, BUT WHAT RESOURCE IS GOING TO THAT? WHAT ARE WE DOING THE BUDGET, THE MONETARY VALUE AND ALL THAT.

I GOT IT COOL. THANK YOU.

I HAVE JUST A COUPLE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.

ARE THESE NUMBERS AS THEY'RE SHOWN ONE IS THERE A WAY TO SHOW THEM IN THE FUTURE THESE SORT OF MARGINAL THINGS AS FIXED OR VARIABLE? SO THINGS THAT WILL BE RECURRING COSTS VERSUS THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE JUST ONE TIME OR ONE OFF.

THAT'S ONE SO THAT YOU CAN SEE KIND OF WHAT THE IMPACT IS IN THE 3 TO 5 YEARS AS WELL AS JUST THE NEXT YEAR.

AND THEN SECONDLY, WITH RESPECT TO KIND OF EACH OF THE INITIATIVES, FOR EXAMPLE, MAYBE HIGH QUALITY INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS OR TECHNOLOGY AND CYBER SECURITY, ARE THESE, GROSS OR NET NUMBERS WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME INCENTIVE, DOLLARS THAT MIGHT COME BACK TO, TO REDUCE THE COSTS, LIKE E-RATE OR, YOU KNOW, FROM TEA.

THIS IS GROSS.

THESE ARE GROSS NUMBERS.

IS THERE I GUESS IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW IF THERE IS SOME, REVENUE THAT MIGHT OFFSET, YOU KNOW, FROM SOME OF THOSE OTHER AREAS, I GUESS THOSE THAT MIGHT BE A LEVER THAT I WAS THINKING OF T HAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD IMPACT, THE CONVERSATION.

SURE. IF THEY'RE, IF THERE'S AN OFFSETTING REVENUE, WE CAN ADD THAT.

BUT FROM WHAT'S LISTED HERE, THESE ARE THINGS OR THESE ARE THE COSTS THAT WE ARE PROJECTING THAT THE GENERAL FUND WILL HAVE TO ASSUME WITHOUT ANY OFFSETTING FROM A GRANT OR E-RATE, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN PRESENTING IT HERE.

SO THESE ARE THE NET NUMBERS.

THESE ARE WITH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, I'M GOING TO SAY TECHNOLOGY AND CYBERSECURITY, BECAUSE THERE IS A NEW OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CAPITALIZE ON ADDITIONAL E-RATE DOLLARS THAT WE LEARNED ABOUT THIS YEAR.

AND OUR OUR AMAZING CTO HAS MADE ME AWARE OF.

AND SO IF WE ARE ABLE TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT, THEN THAT'S A HAPPY SURPRISE FOR US, RIGHT? GOT IT. BUT IN PLANNING AND FORECASTING FOR THIS MOMENT IN TIME, THAT'S WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.

AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IS NET BUT EYES ON THE PRIZE THAT HOPEFULLY THERE COULD BE SOME OFFSETTING REVENUE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

TRUSTEE FOREMAN. OKAY.

THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME TO GET BACK TO SOME OF MY QUESTIONS AND LET ME CLARIFY THE EARLY LEARNING PIECE SO THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT MY POSITION ON EARLY LEARNING. PROBABLY THE TRUSTEE THAT'S FOUGHT THE HARDEST ON THIS BOARD FOR EARLY LEARNING.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE $14 MILLION, IN FACT, INCLUDES SOME OF OUR PARTNERSHIPS, THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH FOR YEARS TO TRY TO MAKE EARLY LEARNING WORK BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ONGOING CONCERNS ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIPS, AND WE HIRED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN EARLY LEARNING.

AND SUPERINTENDENT, YOU KNOW, THIS, THAT WERE REALLY NOT DOING A LOT OF STUFF.

AND WE ENDED UP DEPLOYING THEM TO SOME OF THE SCHOOLS, WHICH WAS GOOD.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T MAKE THOSE SAME MISTAKES JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT MONEY IN THE, IN THE POT.

ON THE RACIAL EQUITY PIECE, AND THE PUBLIC SCHOOL CHOICE.

THAT'S A NEW.

THE PUBLIC SCHOOL CHOICE INITIATIVE IS KIND OF NEW TO OUR BUDGET, SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT INITIATIVE LOOKS LIKE AND AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING WITH THAT INITIATIVE.

BECAUSE IN MY MIND, DALLAS ISD HAS SO MANY CHOICES FOR OUR STUDENTS, WHICH IS WONDERFUL. BUT WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY STUDENTS THAT WE CONTINUE TO JUST MOVE FROM PROGRAM TO PROGRAM. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST STILL CREATING ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS. I'M TALKING TO THE SUPERINTENDENT ON THIS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU CAN'T DO ANY THING, DR.

ALFORD STEPHENS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT CONTINUING TO CREATE MORE NEW PROGRAMS THAT'S COSTING US MORE MONEY WHERE WE COULD PUT SOME OF THAT MONEY INTO SOME OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF CHOICES.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE, I'LL STOP WITH THIS ONE, IN REGARDS TO STRATEGIC COMPENSATION AND STAFF RAISES, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE COMPONENT OF THIS THAT'S FOR OUR TEACHERS AND OUR PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING IN THE

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SCHOOLS, RATHER THAN INCLUDING ALL OF THAT WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE SALARIES AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF.

I WANT TO KNOW DIRECTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S GOING TO THE SCHOOLS.

CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT? YES, I'LL MAKE SURE TO GET THAT INFORMATION.

BUT I DO WANT TO PROVIDE A POINT OF CLARITY ON THE STRATEGIC COMPENSATION AND STAFF RAISES.

THE NUMBER THAT'S REFLECTED THERE, TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT WE DID FOR THIS CURRENT SCHOOL YEAR.

SO WE INCREASED THE HOURLY RATE TO $16 AN HOUR.

AND I THINK ONCE WE WE INCREASED THE STARTING TEACHER PAY.

AND THEN WE ALSO I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE RAISE AMOUNT WAS EQUIVALENT FOR TEACHERS, TO ABOUT 2 AND A HALF, 3%, PLEASE I HOPE I'M NOT MESSING THAT UP TOO MUCH, BUT I WANTED US TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT'S BASED ON WHAT WE DID FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR, NOT FORECASTING FOR, THIS IS JUST THE CURRENT YEAR. IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR.

I THINK IT ALSO INCLUDED THE ADJUSTMENT, FROM FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM TRUSTEES REGARDING TEACHERS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN HERE TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T HAVE SOME OF THE REPEAT OF NEW TEACHERS, THAT AS WE INCREASE AS YOU RECALL, CHIEF ABEL MADE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS.

BUT WE CAN ADD ALL OF THE ALL OF THE THIS IS EXACTLY I HOPE THE BOARD RECEIVES THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU ALL, SO THAT WE CAN THEN CREATE THE NEXT LAYER OF RESPONSES TO THESE QUESTIONS.

AND I APOLOGIZE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ANSWERS TO EVERYTHING.

MOST OF THIS WAS JUST TO GET OUR OUR THOUGHTS FLOWING.

EARLY ON I DO WANT TO SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL CHOICE JUST AS A OVERVIEW AND AGAIN, WE'LL GET THE SPECIFICS TRUSTEE FOREMAN AND OTHER TRUSTEES WITH THAT QUESTION. BUT SOME OF THIS WAS TO GO TO ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS AND FOR THEM TO HAVE THAT WAS THAT CONVERSATION WE HAD ABOUT WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS.

SO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL CHOICE ALSO NOW BEGAN TO INCLUDE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS IN A MANNER FOR THEM TO REBRAND AND TO HAVE DOLLARS TO ALSO MARKET, BECAUSE, AS YOU RECALL, YOU ALL BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT WE WERE PUTTING DOLLARS IN FOR MARKETING FOR SOME OF OUR, APPLICATION SCHOOLS, BE THEM ACADEMIC REQUIREMENTS OR OTHERS.

SO BUT AGAIN, TO EVERY TRUSTEES POINT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DELINEATE THIS IS HOW MUCH IS HERE AND THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD BE GOING TO ACTUALLY, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY CONVERSATION AT ALL ABOUT EXPANDING ANY OF OUR CURRENT, EXISTING CHOICE SCHOOLS THAT WE CONSIDER CHOICE THAT REQUIRE AN APPLICATION.

THAT IS NOT PART OF THOSE DOLLARS, BUT WE WILL GIVE YOU THE SPECIFICS.

THANK YOU.

TRUSTEE MICCICHE.

TRUSTEE MACKEY. YES.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BRINGING THIS TO US.

JUST A FEW CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.

FIRST, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO SLIDE FOUR, I THINK IT WAS IT'S WAY BACK.

I'LL TELL YOU WHEN TO STOP RIGHT THERE ACTUALLY.

NEVER MIND. IT'S 13.

SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT BUDGET OF FISCAL YEAR 2024, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

AND THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY SPENDING ON ESSER.

CORRECT? THIS BUDGET DOES INCLUDE.

OKAY, $50 MILLION THAT WE KNOW WILL BE RECLASSED TO ESSER.

SO I GOT YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE.

BUT THIS INCLUDES THE FUNDING THAT WOULD BE CLASSIFIED TO ESSER.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL $50 MILLION THAT MAY CHANGE THIS AMOUNT.

THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT, THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL.

AND IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS YEAR WHEN WE ADOPTED THIS BUDGET, WE ADOPTED APPROXIMATELY $180 MILLION DEFICIT BUDGET, $186, $186 PLUS A $40 $50 MILLION ON ESSER.

SO SO THE $186 INCLUDES ESSER, INCLUDES ESSER.

GOTCHA. OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW, IF WE CAN GO FORWARD, FORWARD, FORWARD TO, RIGHT A CTUALLY RIGHT THERE.

SOME CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ON THIS THEN.

SO IF IN THE WORLD IN WHICH WE ADOPT AND WE'RE RIGHT ON ALL THESE PROJECTIONS AND WE ADOPT EXACTLY A BALANCED BUDGET OF $1.76 BILLION, THAT WOULD THEN ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATE THAT DEFICIT, RIGHT? ESSENTIALLY, YES. OKAY.

AND I GUESS I HAVE TWO GENERAL QUESTIONS THEN BEFORE WE GET TO THE SPECIFICS.

THE WAY YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT IT.

I APPRECIATE THE EXERCISE TO BE ABLE TO LIKE, LOOK THROUGH SOME OF THE BIGGEST ROCKS WITH SOME REAL NUMBERS HERE THAT YOU ALL ARE ENGAGING IN THE CONVERSATIONS AROUND.

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IT'S SUPER HELPFUL FOR US TO PUT THAT FORWARD.

MY FIRST QUESTION IS THAT PAYROLL PROJECTION NUMBER IS NOT IN THESE TEN ROCKS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UP HERE, THESE $10 BILLS.

NO, BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR IT.

YOU'VE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR IT. ASSUMING EVERYTHING STAYS STATUS QUO.

YES. AND IS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION'S RECOMMENDATION CURRENTLY THAT EVERYTHING WILL STAY STATUS QUO? NO. OKAY. SO THEN THERE MAY BE SOME GIVE AND TAKE THAT COMES BECAUSE I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT LOOKING AT PROGRAMS OR WHATNOT.

AND THAT'S TO BE CLEAR, THAT'S NOT A RIFF, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

YOU CAN CLOSE POSITIONS THAT ARE EMPTY AND VACANT.

[INAUDIBLE] BUT SO THEN OKAY THAT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW.

SO THAT $1.47 NUMBER IS IF EVERYTHING STAYED EXACTLY AS IT IS TODAY WITHOUT ANY CHANGES.

BUT YOU ALL ARE EXPLORING OPTIONS IN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT DOES THAT NEED TO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE IT DOES TODAY? YES, JUST AS WE DID THIS YEAR.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHEN WE ADOPTED THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, WE REDUCED OUR PAYROLL EXPENDITURES BASED ON SOME, YOU KNOW, DECISIONS THAT WE MADE.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.

SUPER HELPFUL. SUPERINTENDENT, DID YOU? I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE ADDED THIS FROM THE BEGINNING, THE NONE OF THIS IS WE'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS.

WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO IS MODEL SOME OF THE THE STRUGGLES THAT WE START OFF WITH.

AND SO IF WE DO NOTHING, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE.

AND THEN WE ALL HAVE TO SIT AROUND AND GOING, OKAY, WELL, WE'RE WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT OF THE $1.477, DO ALL OF THOSE POSITIONS NEED TO EXIST, AND IF NOT, WHICH ONES DON'T? AND WHAT DATA ARE WE USING TO INFORM THE DECISION ABOUT WHICH POSITIONS STAY AND WHICH POSITIONS NEED TO NOT, YOU KNOW, STAY AND SO ON.

SO MORE THAN ANYTHING, IT WAS TO TO MODEL THE PROCESSES THAT WE AS A TEAM AND RATHER THAN WAITING AND NOT SHARING WHAT WE GO THROUGH, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND THEN BRING YOU STARTING IN MARCH, WE WANTED TO ACTUALLY BEGIN.

SO I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, WE ARE NOT AT ALL RECOMMENDING THAT WE WOULD KEEP ALL THOSE TEN, OR THAT THEY WOULD STAY AT THE SAME AMOUNTS, OR THAT WE WOULD KEEP THIS.

THIS WAS SIMPLY JUST WHERE WE STARTED.

GOTCHA. OKAY.

AND THEN IF WE CAN GO TO THE TEN AND I APPRECIATE, GIVEN THAT FRAMING AND CONTEXT AND LOOKING AT, I THINK TWO MORE SLIDES, ONE MORE SLIDE.

OH, I SAID, YOU SAID THE TEN THOSE TEN.

OKAY. I DIDN'T EVEN COUNT.

ETC.. AND MY GENERAL THOUGHT, I THINK I MENTIONED THIS EARLIER WAS, I MEAN, I CAN SIT UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT WHICH ONES I LIKE OR WHICH ONES I THINK ARE GOOD, OR I'M A SUPPORTER OF, MY ONLY FEEDBACK AT THIS STAGE WOULD BE WE HAVE GOALS AND GUARDRAILS THAT WE SET, AND IT'S WHATEVER OF THOSE MOVE THIS AND MOVE THESE NUMBERS IS WHAT I WOULD WANT TO SEE AND WANT.

AND I'M GLAD YOU ALL ARE DOING THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND THAT WILL BE A HUGE COMPONENT.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IN MY MIND, WE HIRED THE SUPERINTENDENT.

WE GOT SHE GOT THIS GREAT TEAM THAT'S HERE.

ALL THE FOLKS ON CAMPUS IS DOING THIS WORK.

WHATEVER'S GOING TO HELP US MOVE THE NEEDLE FOR KIDS IS WHAT I WANT TO SEE.

AND, YOU KNOW, YALL ARE THE EXPERTS TO BRING THAT FORWARD.

AND OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND ASK THE QUESTIONS.

BUT THAT'S WHERE MY MIND IS WITH THESE TEN.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND EFFORT IN THIS.

THANK YOU. I'M GONNA TAKE A POINT OF PRIVILEGE.

[INAUDIBLE] I APPRECIATE THAT, TRUSTEE MICCICHE.

AND SO IF I CAN ALSO ADD IN PART OF THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT AS WE BEGIN TO LOOK AT THESE, THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT THAT WE HAVE TO UTILIZE THE DATA, BECAUSE WE KNOW VERY WELL THAT SOMETIMES, ESPECIALLY IF THIS WAS AN INITIATIVE THAT YOU WERE ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF, YOU MAY BE LIKE, I AM TOTALLY IN SUPPORT OF X, Y, AND Z, AND WE HAVE TO GET PAST OUR BIASES, WHICH ARE NORMAL IN ORDER TO GET TO WHAT ARE THE DATA TELLING US ABOUT HOW THIS IS AFFECTING THESE STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS.

AND SO EARLY LEARNING I THINK IS OVERALL, THE RESEARCH SAYS EARLY LEARNING IS IMPACTFUL FOR STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS, BUT IS THE WAY WE'RE UTILIZING THOSE ADDITIONAL $14 MILLION GETTING US THOSE OUTCOMES WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE ONE THAT'S NOT ON HERE ANYMORE, BECAUSE WE DID USE THE DATA, EVEN THOUGH EVEN THOUGH RESEARCH SAYS THAT EXTENDED SCHOOL YEAR GENERALLY SHOWS IMPROVED STUDENT OUTCOMES.

BUT THE WAY IN WHICH WE WERE IMPLEMENTING IT DID NOT SHOW THAT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN FOR US, AND WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THERE WERE A LOT OF FACTORS AFFECTING IT, BUT

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WERE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUT DOLLARS INTO THAT? THE ANSWER WAS NO, BECAUSE WE WEREN'T SEEING THE CONNECTION TO THOSE STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS.

SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL THE CONVERSATION, AND WE HAVE TO DO A GOOD JOB.

AS WE COME BACK TO YOU ON THE NEXT ITERATION OF HERE'S THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

AND WHEN WE DEFINE RETURN ON INVESTMENT, WE SHOULD BE ABLE AND I KNOW OUR TEAM IS LOOKING AT ME NOW GOING, YES, I JUST TOLD US WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT AS IT CONNECTS TO A SPECIFIC OUTCOME GOAL, NOT JUST STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS, BUT WHETHER THAT'S GOAL ONE OR WHETHER THAT'S GOAL TWO. WHAT IS IT SPECIFICALLY CONNECTED TO SO THAT IT WILL HELP YOU UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE MAKING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND THEN YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SAME DATA WE ARE.

AND AGAIN WE WOULD BE IN UNISON AND WE'RE ALLOWING DATA TO DRIVE OUR DECISIONS.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE OUR HEAD HAS TO DRIVE THE DECISION, NOT OUR HEARTS.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

I THINK IT REALLY DID HELP DEFINE THE CHALLENGES AHEAD.

AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG TIME WHERE WE WE HAVE THIS BIG OF A GAP IN TERMS OF FUNDING.

AND I WAS ACTUALLY CONCERNED THAT THE THE GAP WAS EVEN LARGER.

I BELIEVE IT'S SLIDE TEN WHERE WE, LOOK AT THE, $6,160 FOR THE BASIC ALLOTMENT. OH, JUST FOR THE ENROLLMENT LOSS.

YEAH, YEAH.

SO ACTUALLY, WHEN WE WE LOSE A STUDENT, WE LOSE THE $6,160 FOR THE BASIC ALLOTMENT.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE OTHER WEIGHTS THAT A LOT OF OUR STUDENTS HAVE.

SO IT MAY BE THAT, YOU KNOW, ON AVERAGE, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A, A DROP OF ALMOST 2,000 STUDENTS IN ENROLLMENT THAT WE'RE LOSING MAYBE $7,500 A STUDENT OR SOMETHING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO, SO THE THE WHOLE MIGHT, MIGHT EVEN EVEN BE DEEPER.

BUT BUT I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE WAY, YOU'VE YOU'VE GIVEN US THESE DOLLARS AND YOU'VE DONE THE CHARTS AND YEAH, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THE UPCOMING YEAR UNLESS THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A SPECIAL SESSION WHERE THE STATE SHARES SOME OF THAT SURPLUS WITH THE DISTRICTS.

THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO DO NEXT YEAR.

WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THIS YEAR BY BY DRAWING DOWN ON, OUR FUND BALANCE.

THE OTHER THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, I KNOW THAT WE JUST RECENTLY PASSED AN AMENDMENT TO BOARD POLICY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR, OUR RESERVES WOULD BE EQUAL TO THREE MONTHS OF OPERATIONAL COSTS AND THAT THAT APPROXIMATES $500 MILLION.

SO I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S, ENOUGH EXCESS FUND BALANCE OVER THE $500 MILLION WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DRAW ON SOME OF THAT TO TIDE US THROUGH THE STATE FUNDING CRISIS.

BECAUSE WE'RE IN WE'RE IN A LOT BETTER SHAPE THAN MOST DISTRICTS THAT I THAT I KNOW OF.

I KNOW SEVERAL DISTRICTS WHERE TRUSTEES ARE HAVING MEETINGS WHERE THEY'RE JUST DRASTIC CUTS GOING ON, YOU KNOW, BEING CONSIDERED.

RIGHT, RIGHT NOW.

AND SO IF, IF THERE'S ANY, BUDGET SURPLUS ABOVE THE, THE THREE MONTHS ABOVE THE $500 MILLION THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DRAW ON TO TO GET US THROUGH THE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE EVENTUALLY THE STATE WILL HAVE TO START, FUNDING PUBLIC EDUCATION AGAIN.

THE THIS THE THIS IS SORT OF INSANE THAT WE HAVE A $33 BILLION STATE SURPLUS, A LARGE PART OF THAT DUE TO INFLATION.

AND THE STATE HOLDS ON TO THAT MONEY INSTEAD OF PASSING DOWN AT LEAST AN INFLATION ADJUSTMENT TO OUR TO OUR OUR LOCAL DISTRICTS.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT THAT SITUATION WILL BE SUSTAINABLE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.

SO, SO I'M I GUESS WHAT I'M JUST PUTTING OUT THERE IS THAT MAYBE WE HAVE SOME SURPLUS ABOVE THE $500 MILLION THAT WE CAN DRAW ON FOR THE NEXT YEAR, AND THEN WE MIGHT GET SOME SANITY BACK TO STATE, THE STATE BUDGETING PROCESS.

THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE NOTE OF? I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO.

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AND IT'S TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE COMMUNITY BUDGET MEETINGS THAT WE, ARE PREPARING FOR.

AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK, LAST YEAR WE HAD THESE ITERATIONS OR THESE MEETINGS, I SHOULD SAY, IN APRIL.

AND SO IN AN ATTEMPT TO, BE RESPONSIVE AND MAKE CERTAIN THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE TIME TO HOST THESE, THESE MEETINGS PRIOR TO THEN, THIS IS OUR PROPOSED SCHEDULE.

SO IF YOU ALL WOULD TAKE SOME TIME, TO LOOK THROUGH THAT, THOSE DATES, DATES AND TIMES AND HOW WE HAVE, HAVE PAIRED YOU ALL AND PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SHARE FEEDBACK WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT, DR.

LEAR MYSELF, IF YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDED CHANGES AS IT RELATES TO THE COMMUNITY BUDGET MEETINGS, THOSE MEETINGS WILL INCLUDE MUCH OF THIS PRESENTATION GOING THROUGH AN ITERATION, VERY SIMILAR, NOT EXACTLY THE SAME, BUT IT WILL SHARE MUCH OF THE INFORMATION THAT I SHARED WITH YOU ALL TODAY. THAT WILL BE THE FOCUS OF THOSE THOSE MEETINGS.

THANK YOU. I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO I DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEYOND WHAT I HEARD BEFORE, BUT THE THE TIMELINE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE ASSUMPTIONS.

IF YOU COULD SHARE THAT WITH THE TRUSTEES, INCLUDING THAT SCHEDULE WHENEVER WE FINALIZE IT.

JUST SO PEOPLE GET AN IDEA THAT THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING, THESE ARE THE OTHER ITERATIONS, AND ULTIMATELY WE'RE GOING TO GET THESE ASSUMPTIONS, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS SO WE CAN GET THE WHOLE TIMELINE FOR THE TRUSTEES.

THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

I REITERATE, TRUSTEES, IT'S MY FIRST TIME SEEING THIS TOO.

SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, IF WE CAN GET THAT TO PAM OFFLINE BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER TRAINING AT 5.

SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY PRESSING QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO WRAP THIS MEETING UP.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME PUTTING THIS TOGETHER IN THE PRESENTATION.

WE APPRECIATE IT. I'M GLAD WE'RE DOING THESE.

I'M GLAD THAT THE TRUSTEES THAT REACHED OUT TO YOU ALL TO MAKE SURE WE START DOING THIS AGAIN.

WE USED TO HAVE A CITIZEN BUDGET REVIEW COMMISSION BACK IN THE DAY, BUT, THE TIME IS NOW 5:11 P.M., AND THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.