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[1. Notice and Return]

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THE TIME IS 2:08 P.M.

WE HAVE A QUORUM AND THIS MEETING HAS BEEN DULY POSTED.

GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THE CALLED BOARD MEETING OF THE DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

WE'LL DISPENSE WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND A SALUTE TO THE TEXAS FLAG, AND WE'LL DO THAT AT OUR NIGHT MEETING.

THE FOLLOWING TRUSTEES ARE EITHER PHYSICALLY PRESENT OR PARTICIPATING SIMULTANEOUSLY BY VIDEO CONFERENCE. A QUORUM OF THE BOARD IS PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT THIS LOCATION.

DISTRICT ONE EDWIN FLORES IS NOT HERE YET.

DISTRICT TWO DUSTIN MARSHALL DISTRICT THREE DAN MICCICHE IS NOT HERE YET.

DISTRICT FOUR KARLA GARCIA IS NOT HERE YET.

DISTRICT FIVE MAXIE JOHNSON, DISTRICT SIX, JOYCE FOREMAN, DISTRICT SEVEN, BEN MACKEY, DISTRICT EIGHT JOE CARREÓN AND DISTRICT NINE JUSTIN HENRY OUR SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS MICHAEL HINOJOSA JOINS US AND I AM BEN MACKEY, BOARD PRESIDENT.

THIS MEETING WILL BE AVAILABLE SIMULTANEOUSLY IN SPANISH ON SOCIAL MEDIA THROUGH DALLAS ISD EN ESPANOL, ON FACEBOOK AND THROUGH THE DISTRICT'S WEBSITE.

[SPANISH] OUR AGENDA NOW CALLS FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT SEGMENT OF OUR MEETING.

HOWEVER, I WAS INFORMED THAT NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

[A. Discussion of the Selection of a Search Firm to Assist the District in the Hiring of the Superintendent of Schools, Including Presentations by Prospective Search Firms]

SO THEREFORE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR DISCUSSION ITEM SO TRUSTEES.

THIS MEETING HAS BEEN CALLED TO DISCUSS THE SELECTION OF A SEARCH FIRM TO ASSIST THE DISTRICT IN HIRING OF THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS, INCLUDING PRESENTATIONS BY PROSPECTIVE FIRMS. EACH PRESENTER WILL HAVE TWENTY FIVE TOTAL MINUTES FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.

THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF OUR MEETING THAT WE HAD IN JANUARY WHERE WE HEARD FOUR OTHER FIRMS. WE HAD FOR SUBMIT TO BE HERE TODAY.

SO THE FIRST PRESENTATION WILL BE BY MCPHERSON AND JACOBSON LLC, BOARD PRESIDENT.

THEY WERE NON RESPONSIVE.

SO WE'LL MOVE TO THE SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL MOVE TO THE SECOND PRESENTATION, WHICH WILL BE WALSH GALLEGOS.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

YOU CAN START WHEN YOU'RE READY, WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP THE PRESENTATION PORTION TO 10 TO 12 MINUTES AND WE'LL RESERVE THE REMAINING TIME FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, PRESIDENT MACKEY. APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON, PRESIDENT MACKEY DR.

HINOJOSA SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS, I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND MY TEAM APPRECIATES THE TIME FOR [INAUDIBLE] TO US THIS AFTERNOON TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO OUR SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH SERVICES.

IN ADDITION TO THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED TO THE BOARD IN RESPONSE TO THE REQUEST, AGAIN, MY NAME IS LAURA RODRIGUEZ MCLEAN.

I WAS NOT TOO LONG AGO THAT I WAS BEFORE THE BOARD WITH ME.

TODAY I BRING WESLEY NUTE ALSO FROM OUR IRVING OFFICE, AS WELL AS MY COLLEAGUE PAIGE KYLE, WHO IS FROM OUR SAN ANTONIO OFFICE AND HEADS UP OUR SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH SERVICES FOR THE FIRM.

AND I'M VERY PLEASED TO INTRODUCE DR.

ANN DIXON, WHO IS THE EDUCATIONAL CONSULTANT THAT WORKS WITH OUR FIRM WITH REGARD TO SUPERINTENDENT SEARCHES. BOARD MEMBERS, I KNOW THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE FACT THAT OUR LAW FIRM IS A LOCAL LAW FIRM HERE IN IRVING, TEXAS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL ARE AWARE AS TO THE BREADTH AND REACH OF OUR LAW FIRM.

WE HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 38 YEARS, DEDICATED, DEDICATED SOLELY TO THE REPRESENTATION OF PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN TEXAS AND NEW MEXICO.

WE HAVE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE AND THE PLEASURE OF REPRESENTING OVER FIVE HUNDRED SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN BOTH OF THOSE STATES, WITH FIFTY EIGHT ATTORNEYS AND SEVEN OFFICES IN BOTH OF THOSE STATES.

I SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO STRESS THAT THE DEPTH OF OUR EXPERIENCE, AS WELL AS THE TIES THAT WE, AS ATTORNEYS HAVE MANAGED TO CREATE BECAUSE OF THESE OFFICES AND BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT WE DO ON BEHALF OF PUBLIC EDUCATION, ALL CONTRIBUTE TO THE SUCCESSES THAT WE HAVE HAD IN FINDING THE BEST QUALIFIED AND BEST SUITED CANDIDATES FOR THOSE DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF CONDUCTING SUPERINTENDENT SEARCHES.

I SPEAK RIGHT NOW A LITTLE BIT TO OUR METHODOLOGY AND REALLY AT THE END, WHAT REALLY SETS US APART FROM OTHER SEARCH FIRMS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT AND CONSIDERING AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT OUR METHODOLOGY IS THAT THE BOARD DRIVES THE SEARCH. CERTAINLY, THERE ARE PROCESSES AND PRACTICES THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE

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BOARD CONSIDER AND UTILIZE IN FINDING THE BEST CANDIDATES.

BUT WE ALSO WILL ADVISE THE BOARD ON THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS THAT IT MUST FOLLOW.

BUT FOLLOWING THAT, WE ARE GOING TO BE SEEKING FROM THE BOARD INFORMATION, INFORMATION AND INPUT IN TERMS OF TAILORING THIS PROCESS AND SEARCH TO YOUR BOARD AND TO FINDING THE BEST CANDIDATE TO TAKE OVER AS SUPERINTENDENT FOR DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

SO BY WAY OF EXAMPLE, WE WILL SOLICIT BOARD INPUT ON STAKEHOLDERS AND THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WILL BE HAD WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS AND WHAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS LOOK LIKE.

WE WILL ALSO SEEK OUT INPUT WITH REGARD TO ADVERTISING THE POSITION, EMPHASIZING THAT WE WILL TAKE ON THE PAPERWORK, THE ORGANIZATION AND THE PROCESSES THAT UNDERTAKE ALL OF THOSE ENDEAVORS.

AND THEN FINALLY, WE WILL GO OUT AND NOT ONLY LOOK FOR THE BEST CANDIDATES, BUT TO THE EXTENT, AND THAT THIS BOARD'S REQUEST, IF THERE ARE PARTICULAR CANDIDATES THAT THE BOARD WANTS US TO SEEK OUT, WE WILL GLADLY DO SO.

I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE WESLEY NOW? THANK YOU, LAURA, AND THANK YOU TO THE BOARD FOR HAVING US.

IT'S GREAT TO BE BEFORE THE BOARD YET AGAIN.

SO JUST WANTED TO START OFF BY REITERATING WHAT LAURA SAID, AND THAT IS THAT THIS PROCESS IS INDEED ADAPTABLE.

FURTHERMORE, WE ARE LOCAL.

WE HAVE THE OFFICE IN IRVING AND WE ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU BECAUSE OF THAT.

BUT OUR REACH IS NO DOUBT BROAD.

ALSO, WE HAVE DONE OVER 50 SUPERINTENDENT SEARCHES IN TEXAS FOR ALL SIDES DISTRICTS.

WE HAVE COMPLETED FIFTY FOUR AND THERE ARE THREE CURRENTLY IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

JUST TO ONCE AGAIN EMPHASIZE THE THE IDEA OF A NATIONAL SEARCH, IT IS NATIONAL IN THE SENSE THAT YOU WANT TO SEEK OUT AND ENCOURAGE APPLICANTS FROM WITHIN THE STATE AND THROUGHOUT THE NATION TO APPLY.

WE ARE EXCEEDINGLY CAPABLE OF PERFORMING THIS NATIONAL SEARCH, AND WE ARE SURELY CAPABLE OF DRAWING OUT THE BEST CANDIDATES AND TALENT HERE IN TEXAS AS WELL.

THAT IS A PART OF OUR OUR CONNECTIONS AND OUR RELATIONSHIPS HERE IN TEXAS.

WE KNOW TEXAS SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND WE HAVE DEDICATED OUR LIVES AND CAREERS TO SERVING THEM. AS STATED EARLIER, OUR LAW FIRM SERVES OVER 500 SCHOOL DISTRICTS, CLIENTS ACROSS TEXAS AND NEW MEXICO RANGING IN SIZE.

AND DR. DIXON HAS PERSONALLY SERVED MANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS AS AN ADMINISTRATOR AND AS A CONSULTANT.

AS A TEAM OUR COLLECTIVE PASSION AND ENTHUSIASM FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION IN THIS STATE ENSURES NOT ONLY THAT WE WILL WORK OUR HARDEST TO BRING YOU THE BEST CANDIDATES, BUT THAT WHAT STUDENTS AND WHAT STUDENTS ESSENTIALLY GET, WHAT THEY DESERVE AND WHAT THEY NEED A LEADER THAT IS CAPABLE OF DRIVING DALLAS ISD FORWARD.

THANK YOU. AND OUR SEARCHES.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU JUST A COUPLE.

I'M [INAUDIBLE], WHO LAURA INTRODUCED EARLIER.

LET ME TURN THIS ON. OH, THAT'LL HELP.

I'M PAIGE KYLE, AND I WANT TO JUST GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF HOW WE WOULD SEEK THE BOARD'S INPUT ON THE SEARCH.

WHAT SETS US APART FROM OTHER SEARCH FIRMS IS WE DON'T HAVE A COOKIE CUTTER SET WAY THAT YOUR SEARCH WILL BE CONDUCTED.

WE ARE GOING TO NEED YOUR INPUT BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOUR COMMUNITY AND AND WHAT WILL WORK BEST FOR DALLAS ISD.

AND SO SOME EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT WE WILL WORK WITH YOU ABOUT, BUT GET YOUR DIRECTION ON IS THE TYPE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WE HAVE IN DOING FIFTY FOUR SEARCHES HAD USED MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EXAMPLES THAT WE CAN DISCUSS WITH THE BOARD GET YOUR INPUT.

AND SO THAT'S ONE WAY THAT IT WILL BE A CONCRETE WAY THAT YOU WILL HAVE INPUT ON THIS SEARCH. THE OTHER WAY IS YOU WILL TELL US WHAT TIMELINE YOU'D LIKE TO WORK FROM.

WE ALWAYS, WHEN WE SUBMIT A PROPOSAL, WE'LL GIVE A SAMPLE TIMELINE JUST SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND SEE WHAT THE STEPS ARE ALONG THE WAY.

AND THERE'S ONE IN YOUR FOLDER, YOUR YELLOW FOLDER THERE AT YOUR DESK.

ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU'LL SEE JUST A SAMPLE OF WHAT THE TIMELINE WOULD LOOK LIKE.

BUT AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT THE TIMELINE IS.

YOU'RE GOING TO TELL US WHAT THE TIMELINE IS THAT WORKS BEST FOR YOUR BOARD.

THE OTHER THING THAT SETS US APART FROM OTHER SEARCH FIRMS IS WE DON'T REPRESENT SUPERINTENDENTS. OUR LAW FIRM, AS LAURA MENTIONED, AND WESLEY ONLY REPRESENTS SCHOOL DISTRICTS. AND THAT DISTINGUISHES US FROM SOME OTHER FIRMS, INCLUDING NOT ONLY LAW FIRMS, BUT SEARCH FIRMS. SOME SEARCH FIRMS MAY WORK NOT ONLY WITH BOARDS WHO ARE LOOKING FOR SUPERINTENDENTS, BUT THEY MAY WORK WITH SUPERINTENDENTS WHO ARE LOOKING FOR JOBS.

AND WE HAVE JUST MADE A DECISION AS A FIRM THAT WE CONSIDER THAT TO BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. AND THAT'S THE REASON WE DON'T REPRESENT SUPERINTENDENTS ALSO LEGALLY.

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THE OTHER WAY THAT WE'RE DIFFERENT FROM MANY OTHER SEARCH FIRMS IS BECAUSE WE ARE A LAW FIRM. WE CAN PROVIDE THE LEGAL SERVICES THAT WE THINK ARE REALLY IMPORTANT ALONG THE WAY.

WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE HIRING A NEW SUPERINTENDENT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE AGENDA LANGUAGE, WE PROVIDE ALL OF THAT SO THAT IT'S ALL YOUR MEETINGS ALONG DURING THE SEARCH PROCESS ARE PROPERLY POSTED.

AND THEN THERE IS SOME BACKGROUND CHECKING WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT MORE IN DEPTH AND A LITTLE BIT THAT THERE ARE SOME LEGAL PIECES AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE ATTORNEYS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO A CERTAIN TYPE OF CREDIT HISTORY, THERE ARE LEGAL NOTICES THAT HAVE TO GO OUT TO APPLICANTS, DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THOSE.

AND WE HAVE THAT EXPERTISE BECAUSE WE ARE A LAW FIRM ALSO.

AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT IN THIS, I'LL JUST LEAVE THIS PIECE OF ADVICE. WHICHEVER FIRM YOU USE, YOU WILL.

SOME SEARCH FIRMS WILL TELL YOU THAT THE TWENTY ONE DAY WAITING PERIOD IS THE BEST TIME TO NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT.

AND CERTAINLY SOME FINISHING TOUCHES CAN BE PUT ON DURING THAT WAITING PERIOD.

BUT WE REALLY RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD BE PROACTIVE IN SAYING HERE IS THE CONTRACT FORMAT THE DALLAS ISD BOARD IS GOING TO BE OFFERING TO TO ALL OF YOUR FINALISTS SO THAT BEFORE YOU EVER NAME YOUR YOUR FINALIST, YOU WILL HAVE THEIR INPUT IF THE TERMS OF THE CONTRAC TS ARE ACCEPTABLE AND EVEN THE THE FILLING IN THE BLANK, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, THE LENGTH OF THE CONTRACT. WE THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WHEN WHEN YOU GO TO NAME A FINALIST THAT YOU HAVE SOME MEETING OF THE MINDS WITH YOUR APPLICANT BEFORE YOU POST THEM PUBLICLY.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE BUILD INTO OUR SEARCHES THAT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM OTHER FIRMS. AND THEN THE OTHER I THINK THE OTHER THING I I SAY THAT SETS US APART FROM OTHER SEARCH FIRMS IS OUR GOAL WHEN YOU NAME A FINALIST IS THAT YOU NOT HEAR ANYTHING THAT SURPRISES YOU. WE DON'T WANT YOU TO BE EMBARRASSED OR, YOU KNOW, DISAPPOINTED IN THE NAME IS POSTED IS BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT WE HAVEN'T ALREADY BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

AND SO WE HAVE THIS SECRET WEAPON NEXT TO ME.

DR. DICKSON IS LIKE A SLEUTH.

SHE IS AN EXTREME VETTOR OF AND SCREENER OF APPLICANTS.

AND THE OTHER THING WE OFFER AND OUR LAW FIRM USES THIS TOO, I'M SURE YOUR COMPANIES DO.

WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY VENDOR CALLED AMERICAN DATABANK THAT DOES A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF BACKGROUND CHECKING, IN ADDITION TO JUST THE THE PERSONAL ONES THAT THAT ANN WILL DO. AND THEY HAVE A MEMO IN THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF YOUR FOLDER.

IT HAS JUST A MENU PRICING OF ALL THE KIND OF BACKGROUND CHECKS THAT THEY OFFER.

AND MANY OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT CLIENTS, WHEN THEY'RE HIRING A SUPERINTENDENT, WANT TO RUN A CREDIT HISTORY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE HANDLING LARGE, LARGE BUDGETS AND A CRIMINAL CRIMINAL BACKGROUND THAT'S MORE THOROUGH THAN THE ONES THAT SCHOOL DISTRICTS RUN. AND THEN ALSO VERIFYING DEGREES.

AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ANN SO SHE CAN TELL YOU WHAT SHE DOES IN HER, HER PART OF THE SEARCH. HELLO.

HI, DR. HINOJOSA, OLD FRIEND.

MY NAME IS ANN DICKSON.

I GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE AT 19 YEARS OLD AND WENT STRAIGHT TO THE WHITE EAGLE INDIAN RESERVATION TO TEACH.

FIFTY TWO YEARS LATER, HERE I AM.

I LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT.

I'VE BEEN A SUPERINTENDENT FOR THIRTY ONE YEARS AND I'VE SERVED AS AN INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT IN TWENTY THREE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND I ACTUALLY SERVED ON THE NORTHEAST INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR EIGHT YEARS.

THOSE ARE MY NUMBERS, BUT YOUR NUMBERS ARE MORE INTERESTING.

A ONE POINT SEVEN BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET, ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND KIDS TWENTY TWO THOUSAND EMPLOYEES, THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR SQUARE MILES, TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY SCHOOLS.

IT JUST IN SIXTEEN CITIES, NINE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS.

BUT I'M HERE FOR ONE.

YOU ONLY HAVE ONE SUPERINTENDENT AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.

WALSH IS DIFFERENT.

WALSH IS A TURNKEY PROCESS.

FROM THE DAY YOU HIRE US TO THE DAY, THE CONTRACT IN THE PARTY HAPPENS.

THERE'S NO FINGER POINTING.

WE'RE IN IT AND AND WE TRY TO RELY AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE INTERNALLY.

OUR MODEL IS CONSTANTLY CHANGING.

WE LEARN BEST PRACTICES FROM EVERYWHERE WE GO.

I AM FREQUENTLY ASKED TO SPEAK AT THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF LATINO ADMINISTRATORS AND SUPERINTENDENTS. AND I'VE DONE SEVERAL ACADEMIES FOR THE TEXAS ALLIANCE OF BLACK SCHOOL EDUCATORS. OUR COMMUNITY OPTIONS ARE BASED ON WHAT YOU WANT.

WE DO DO SOME RECRUITING.

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WE TALK ABOUT THAT IF SELECTED AS A FIRM.

I DO VET AND I DON'T JUST VET THE PERSON.

I VET THEIR PERFORMANCE.

WHAT ARE THEIR STUDENT OUTCOMES? WHAT ARE THEIR STUDENT BACKGROUNDS? WHAT, WHAT HAVE THEY NOT WHAT THEY TELL ME THEY'VE DONE.

MY MOTHER USED TO HAVE A SAYING, DON'T TELL ME WHO YOU ARE.

DON'T TELL ME WHAT YOU'LL DO.

SHOW ME WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND I WILL KNOW YOU.

AND THAT'S MY MODEL.

I LOOK TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.

WE PRESENT ALL OF THE APPLICANTS TO YOU.

YOU WILL SEE ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS AND THEN GIVE US GUIDANCE AND HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO EITHER PAIR THAT DOWN OR SEE THEM ALL AND JUDGE THAT FROM THERE.

I'M ALSO EXTREMELY PROUD OF THE DIVERSITY OF MY PLACEMENT.

WALSH HAS DONE, I THINK, FIFTY FOUR OR MORE.

I'VE DONE THIRTY FOUR SEARCHES MYSELF.

AND OF THOSE THIRTY FOUR I'VE PLACED SIX LATINOS, NINE AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND FIFTEEN FEMALES. SO WE FAR EXCEED THE NATIONAL AVERAGE OF EXECUTIVE PLACEMENTS IN OUR SEARCHES, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT.

WE WOULD LOVE TO COME AND SERVE YOUR COMMUNITY.

I WAS JOKING WHEN WE DO ONE OF THESE SEARCHES.

I DIG IN AND RESEARCH YOU AND I LOOKED AT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR HIGH SCHOOL SITES, AND I LIKE TO SEE YOUR MASCOTS IN THE COLORS, AND I WANT TO GO TO GILLIAN HIGH SCHOOL SO I CAN BE A STAR.

I SAID, I'VE NEVER SEEN A MASCOT BE A STAR BEFORE AND I WANT TO BE A STAR.

SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF SCHOOL DISTRICT MASCOTS I DON'T WANT TO BE, BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO ASK ME THAT PRIVATELY SO.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING US COME, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

TRUSTEES WILL NOW TAKE QUESTIONS FOR WALSH GALLEGOS.

TRUSTEE FOREMAN. GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.

GOOD TO SEE YOU. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND I'LL JUST START WITH HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY? BOARD MEMBER FOREMAN, THIS IS LAURA.

WE WERE INVITED TO APPLY FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH PROCESS TO PRESENT.

INVITED BY THROUGH IT, IT WAS THROUGH ADMINISTRATION, THROUGH ADMINISTRATION, THROUGH WHO IN ADMINISTRATION WAS IT THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT TRYING TO JUST LORI.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

AND I WANT TO TELL YOU, I CAN'T RECALL WHO SPECIFICALLY, IT WAS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT I HAD PERSONALLY NOT INTERACTED WITH BEFORE.

I CAN SAY THAT. OK? YEAH, BECAUSE I'M AND I'LL BE ASKING THIS VERY SAME QUESTION OF THE OTHERS BECAUSE I HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE PROCESS.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THAT PARTICULAR QUESTION.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ALWAYS STAY ABREAST OF IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND I HEARD YOU SAY THAT FROM THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STANDPOINT, YOU WOULD BE LETTING THE BOARD KIND OF DIRECT YOU IN REGARDS TO THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

WELL, IF YOU'VE GOT NINE MEMBERS, ALL OF THEM SEE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT, I WOULD THINK.

AND SO IF YOU HAD A SCENARIO WHERE SOME BOARD MEMBERS WANTED TO LIMIT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND OTHERS WANTED TO ENHANCE IT, HOW WOULD YOU HANDLE THAT? TO DO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

AND BY THE TIME WE TALK THROUGH AND WE CAN DO SOME OF THIS AS AN ATTORNEY CONSULTATION BECAUSE IT'S PROPERLY ENCLOSED MEETING BY THE TIME WE TALK THROUGH WITH THE BOARD, I CAN THINK OF ONE RECENT EXAMPLE.

HERE'S THE PROS AND CONS OF HOW TO DO IT, WHAT TO DO, WHO TO BE THE FOREFRONT, WHAT FORMAT TO USE, WHAT QUESTIONS TO ASK, WHAT STRUCTURE TO USE THAT THAT BOARD.

ALTHOUGH THEY WEREN'T 100 PERCENT IN AGREEMENT, THEY HAD A STRONG MAJORITY.

BY THE TIME WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION, WANTING TO DO A PARTICULAR THING, THAT PARTICULAR BOARD DECIDED THEY WANTED TO LEAD IN INDIVIDUAL LISTENING SESSIONS WITHIN THEIR DISTRICTS AS AN EXAMPLE. BUT IT'S IT'S OFTEN A ROBUST DISCUSSION.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

BUT WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO COME COME TO A CONSENSUS AMONG THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS. THANK YOU.

ONE STATEMENT THAT REALLY CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WAS THE STATEMENT ABOUT NOT REPRESENTING

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SUPERINTENDENTS, AND THAT'S WHAT SETS YOU APART IN TERMS OF A SEARCH, COULD SOMEBODY JUST EXPAND ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE SO I CAN GET SOME CLARITY.

AS LAURA MENTIONED, WE'VE WORKED IN THIS AREA FOR 38 YEARS, AND SO EVEN BEFORE WE STARTED DOING FORMAL SEARCHES, WHICH WAS IN 2013, WE WORKED WITH MANY SCHOOL BOARDS WHEN THEY WERE USING OTHER SEARCH FIRMS. AND WHAT WE COMMONLY HEAR AND WE HEAR IT FROM APPLICANTS IS IF A PARTICULAR SEARCH FIRM IS DOING A SEARCH, I MIGHT AS WELL NOT APPLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE PARTICULAR APPLICANTS THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING OUT FOR OR TRYING TO GET A JOB.

YOU HEAR THE RUMOR AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE.

BUT WE HEAR IT PRETTY OFTEN THAT THERE'S A PARTICULAR SEARCH FOR WHO MIGHT HAVE A STABLE OF SUPERINTENDENTS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND PLACEMENTS FOR.

SOME SEARCH FIRMS EVEN WORK WITH SUPERINTENDENT APPLICANTS TO HELP THEM BE READY TO APPLY FOR JOBS THAT MAY COME OPEN.

OK, THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING DYNAMICS FOR ME IS BECAUSE IT SETS YOU SOMEWHAT INDEPENDENT FROM THE SUPERINTENDENT.

SURE. AND TRYING TO FIND A PARTICULAR PERSON TO FIT THE SLOT.

YOU ALSO MENTIONED ABOUT THROUGH THE PROCESS.

THERE MIGHT BE SOME LEGAL SERVICES THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE FOR THE DISTRICT.

SO THAT IS A PART OF YOUR PROPOSAL, AS YOU DO THE PROPOSAL, THOSE LEGAL SERVICES.

YES, YES. BOARD MEMBER FOREMAN, WE AGAIN WE WILL LOOK TO THE BOARD AS TO WHAT THE SCOPE OF THAT WORK WOULD BE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE DISTRICT FULLY HAS A GENERAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE WITH SOME GREAT ATTORNEYS IN IT.

THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, A SPECIAL PROJECT.

AND SO IF THE BOARD'S DESIRE WERE TO SAY, WE DON'T WANT GENERAL COUNSEL TO HANDLE THIS, THAT WE WANT TO TAKE THIS TO OUTSIDE COUNSEL.

THAT IS THE EXPERTISE THAT WE BRING.

AND FURTHER, YOU CAN DEFINE THE BOARD CAN SAY WE JUST NEED THE SERVICES ON LEGAL UP TO A POINT. WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THE SUPERINTENDENT CONTRACT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT PAIGE HERE HAD EXPLAINED EARLIER AS TO THE NUANCES TO THAT.

AND SO WE ALLOW THE BOARD TO DEFINE THE SCOPE OF THAT LEGAL WORK.

AND THE LAST QUESTION FOR NOW IS, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THIS AREA OF THE METROPLEX IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS IN ITS TOTALITY.

SO WHAT SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE YOU REPRESENTED WITHIN THE METROPLEX AND HELPED THEM TO EITHER FIND INTERIM OR SUPERINTENDENTS? I HAVE SERVED I DID THE WAXAHACHIE, MIDLOTHIAN, RED OAK, CEDAR HILL, DECATUR, COMMUNITY IN VANORNY IN THIS AREA AND I'VE SERVED AS AN INTERIM IN CEDAR HILL, RED OAK, DECATUR, VAN ALSTYNE. YEAH.

I DON'T CALL VAN ALSTYNE IN THIS AREA, BUT THAT'S OK.

[LAUGHTER] WELL, [INAUDIBLE] I WOULD FLY INTO HERE, SO.

I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT WE JUST COMPLETED, DR.

DIXON WAS NOT THE CONSULTANT ON THIS ONE, BUT LEWISVILLE ISD.

IT'S COMPLETED LEWISVILLE.

COMPLETED. OK, I DO CALL THEM, AND LAKE DALLAS ISD.

I CALL THEM TOO. OK.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

TRUSTEE FOREMAN. TRUSTEE GARCIA.

HI. GOOD AFTERNOON. GREAT TO SEE FAMILIAR FACES.

A QUESTION FOR YOU REALLY QUICKLY ON YOUR TIMELINE.

I SEE YOU'VE GOT A PROJECTED TIMELINE THAT BEGINS AS EARLY AS MONDAY.

NEXT MONDAY, THE 21ST.

AND THEN CONCLUDES SOMETIME AROUND MID-MAY.

I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS OF OUR SIZE AND OUR SCOPE.

HAS THIS TIMELINE BEEN, HAVE YOU HAD A TIMELINE LIKE THIS BEFORE? I KNOW THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMEONE BY THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.

BUT TELL ME ABOUT [INAUDIBLE].

HOW YOU'VE GUIDED OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN MAKING DECISIONS THIS IMPORTANT IN THIS TIME FRAME THAT YOU'VE GOT HERE IN FRONT OF US.

I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT.

AND AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS JUST PURELY A SAMPLE BECAUSE WE WOULD NEED, OF COURSE, YOUR INPUT, THE BOARD'S INPUT ON THE TIMELINE YOU WOULD LIKE.

BUT WE HAVE CERTAINLY FOUND SUPERINTENDENTS IN THIS AMOUNT OF TIME FOR VERY LARGE DISTRICTS NOT AS LARGE AS YOU, BUT THAT WE'VE REPRESENTED THAT WORKED WITH DISTRICTS THAT WERE IN THE FIFTY THOUSAND STUDENTS RANGE AND COMPLETED THEM IN THIS TIMELINE OR SHORTER.

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AND HOW WE DO THAT IS THERE'S SOME BASIC INFORMATION THAT WE BELIEVE YOU, ELECTED BOARD MEMBERS ARE IN A GOOD POSITION TO SET SOME MINIMUM JOB REQUIREMENTS.

AND THOSE MINIMUM JOB REQUIREMENTS IS WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED TO POST THE POSITION.

AND SO OFTEN IF THIS IS THE BOARD'S DESIRE, WE MIGHT START WITH A JOB POSTING.

AND WHILE IT'S POSTED RUNNING AT THE SAME TIME, FOCUS OUR ATTENTION ON THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SO THAT WHEN THE APPLICANTS COME TO YOU, YOU HAVE THAT INPUT FROM YOUR COMMUNITY AND DECIDING WHO ALL YOU MAY WANT TO INTERVIEW.

AND SO THAT'S ONE WAY THAT WE CAN MAKE IT IN THIS KIND OF TIME FRAME IS RUNNING BOTH OF THOSE THINGS AT THE SAME TIME, WHILE THE JOB IS OPEN, ALSO FOCUSING ON THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DURING THAT TIME.

OKAY, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY MY SECOND QUESTION, WHICH IS I'D LIKE TO KNOW AN EXAMPLE OF SORT OF THE MOST EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY PROCESS YOU'VE SEEN IN ANOTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND MAYBE COMPARE THAT TO ONE THAT WAS MAYBE DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH.

AND I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW BECAUSE LOOKING AT THIS TIMELINE, IT'S ROUGHLY THREE MONTHS.

AND IF THERE'S ONE THING THAT I KNOW HAPPENED DURING OUR REDISTRICTING PROCESS IS THERE WERE MEETINGS THAT TOOK PLACE WITHIN DISTRICTS WITH OUR WITHIN OUR OWN DISTRICTS.

THEY WAS VIRTUAL.

AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT COULD WE FIT IN THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE IN THIS TIMELINE AGAIN, YOU MENTIONED IT'S A SAMPLE TIMELINE, BUT IF WE WERE TO STICK TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE COMING FROM YOUR FIRM? SO ANALOGOUS, YOU MENTIONED THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS, I THINK, AND COUPLED WITH WHAT PAIGE JUST DESCRIBED IN TERMS OF POSTING AND BEING ON AN AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE, THERE IS OPPORTUNITY AS WE DID MUCH AGGRESSIVELY ON THE REDISTRICTING BUILDING IN THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS OR TOWN HALLS WITH REGARDS TO EACH INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER AND HAVING AND RECEIVING INPUT, I KNOW THERE WERE SOME BOARD MEMBERS THAT PREFERRED DOING IN PERSON.

THAT'S FEASIBLE AS WE ARE, HAVE A LOCAL OFFICE, AS YOU ALL KNOW.

AND SO WE WOULD HAVE THE STAFFING TO BE THERE FOR THOSE PURPOSES.

BUT WE WOULD ALSO HAVE THE STAFFING TO COVER AND AID BOARD MEMBERS WITH RESPECT TO VIDEO OR ZOOM TOWN HALL MEETINGS IN ORDER TO SEEK OUT INPUT.

I THINK THERE'S ALSO A COMPONENT HERE WITH REGARDS TO MUCH LIKE WHAT WE DID IN REDISTRICTING IS GOING OUT AND SEEKING USING THE TECHNOLOGY SERVICES.

WE ARE HAPPY TO TAKE ON THOSE SERVICES, BUT WE ARE ALSO HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE DISTRICT IN TERMS OF GETTING THE WORD OUT AND INVITING INPUT.

WE ARE RECOGNIZING OF THE FACT THAT BECAUSE OF OUR DEMOGRAPHICS IN DISD, THAT THE INTERNET IS NOT THE END ALL AND BE ALL THAT SOMETIMES WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND GET THE INPUT FROM THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF HAVING RELIABLE INTERNET SERVICES OR BECAUSE OF WORK AND JOBS DO NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AVAILABLE DURING THE DAY AND TO BUILD IN TIME IN THE EVENINGS IN ORDER TO GET THAT INPUT FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

GREAT. THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR. AND THEN LAST QUESTION ON MY END IS WHAT LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY HAVE YOU HAD IN THE PAST IN THE SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH? AND I'M ASKING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THE REDISTRICTING WE HAD A WEB PAGE, THINGS WERE POSTED ON THAT WEB PAGE.

THEY WERE AVAILABLE IN SPANISH AND ENGLISH, AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE ACCESSIBILITY THAT YOU WERE WILLING TO TAKE ON AND HAVE DONE IN THE PAST AND COULD DO FOR DISD. I'M HAPPY TO.

THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY FOLLOW YOUR DIRECTION.

WE CAN DO THAT.

WE HAVE NOT HAD A SEPARATE WEBSITE AT THE FIRM FOR A PARTICULAR SEARCH, BUT WE HAVE CERTAINLY POSTED THINGS ABOUT OUR SEARCHES ON THE DISTRICT WEBSITE WHERE PROBABLY YOUR COMMUNITY WOULD BE MORE LIKELY TO BE LOOKING.

AND WE ARE VERY TRANSPARENT.

THE ONE THING THAT WE DON'T RECOMMEND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS YOUR QUESTION, BUT I THINK IT'S GOOD TO SAY IS WE DON'T RECOMMEND SHARING THE NAMES OF MULTIPLE FINALIST OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL BOARD.

BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE APPLYING FOR YOUR JOB HAVE GREAT JOBS NOW.

AND WE DON'T RECOMMEND THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO JEOPARDIZE THEIR POSITION IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE YOUR FINALIST.

AND SO WE WOULD TAKE YOUR DIRECTION ON THAT.

BUT THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND NOT SHARING UNTIL YOU NAME THE PERSON AS A FINALIST. AND THAT IS ASKED WITH THE SPIRIT OF IF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ISN'T, SAY DIRECTLY. I WOULD LIKE A COMMUNITY MEMBER TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE ALONG THE PROCESS AT ANY GIVEN TIME. SURE. WHETHER THAT'S A WEBSITE, THEY TUNE INTO A MEETING IF THEY CAN DO DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THANKS FOR YOUR RESPONSE.

ABSOLUTELY. THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE GARCIA.

TRUSTEES, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HERE? TRUSTEE MARSHALL. THANK YOU.

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MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.

I'M JUST LOOKING THROUGH YOUR LIST OF SUPERINTENDENT SEARCHES THAT YOU'VE DONE AND YOU MENTIONED SOME IN THE AREA.

IT STRIKES ME THAT MOST OF THESE DISTRICTS, IN FACT, MAYBE 100 PERCENT OF THEM ARE ALL SUBSTANTIALLY SMALLER THAN WE ARE.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE LARGEST DISTRICT THAT YOU'VE EVER DONE A SEARCH FOR IS? THE TWO LARGEST ARE EL PASO ISD AND LEWISVILLE, WHICH ARE IN THE 50,000 STUDENT RANGE, SO YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER THAN DALLAS.

SO HOW DO YOU THINK THAT A SEARCH FOR A DISTRICT OF OUR SIZE WOULD VARY OR IN WHAT REGARDS WOULD IT BE DIFFERENT FROM THE SEARCHES THAT YOU'VE COMPLETED ON THIS LIST? IT WOULD VARY IN THAT YOU HAVE NINE BOARD MEMBERS, ALTHOUGH WE DID ONE SEARCH FOR SOUTH TEXAS ISD THAT HAD 24 BOARD MEMBERS.

YEAH, THEY HAVE. THAT SOUNDS FUN. YEAH. THEY HAVE A REALLY UNUSUAL SCHOOL DISTRICT DOWN SOUTH. BUT IT WOULD BE MORE TIME INTENSIVE BECAUSE THERE ARE NINE OF YOU COMPARED TO SEVEN OF YOU, NINE DISTRICTS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO FOCUS OUR ATTENTION ON YOUR DISTRICTS.

BUT I THINK THE SKILLS AND THE PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE UTILIZED IN THOSE OTHER DISTRICTS WOULD TRANSLATE WELL TO DALLAS ISD.

DID YOU GUYS INTERVIEW FOR THE RECENT SUPERINTENDENT SEARCHES IN HOUSTON OR AUSTIN OR SAN ANTONIO OR ANY OTHER LARGE URBAN DISTRICTS? NOT HOUSTON OR AUSTIN? WE DID INTERVIEW IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT JUST BECAUSE I'M THERE LOCALLY IN SAN ANTONIO.

OKAY. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

MAY I JUST ADD.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD THIS PROCESS IS CERTAINLY SCALABLE.

AND I THINK THAT THE WORK THROUGH REDISTRICTING ALSO SHOWS THE COLLABORATIVE APPROACH THAT WOULD ALLOW THIS PROCESS TO FIT A LARGER DISTRICT LIKE DALLAS ISD.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT PART.

THANK YOU. I WOULD AGREE, AND I'M NOT IMPLYING THAT YOU'RE NOT QUALIFIED.

IN FACT, I THINK YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB WITH REDISTRICTING, SO DON'T INTERPRET THAT AS ANYTHING NEGATIVE.

I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW YOU THINK IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEE MARSHALL. TRUSTEE MICCICHE.

I THINK I SAW DR.

HINOJOSA ALMOST HAVE A HEART ATTACK WHEN HE HEARD 24 BOARD MEMBERS.

[LAUGHTER] AND I ASSUME THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION IS THAT IT DEPENDS AND IT VARIES.

BUT WHAT'S INVOLVED WHEN YOU HAVE INTERNAL CANDIDATES AS WELL AS EXTERNAL CANDIDATES AND YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE RECOMMENDED ROLE FOR YOU? WAS IT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU ONLY LOOK AT THE EXTERNAL ONES? DO YOU LOOK AT THE INTERNAL ONES, COMPARE, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS? I MEAN, JUST HOW DOES IT WORK WHEN YOU HAVE CREDIBLE INTERNAL CANDIDATES? HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

I TREAT THEM ALL EXACTLY THE SAME.

THEY GET THE SAME INFORMATION FROM ME.

I MAKE MY PRESCREEN CALL TO THEM.

THEY HAVE MY NUMBER.

THEY CAN CALL ME WITH ANY QUESTIONS.

THAT SOME DISTRICTS DO IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY AT THE BOARD LEVEL.

THEY LIKE, PREFER TO LOOK AT INTERNAL FIRST AND THEN OPEN IT TO OUT.

I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT FROM THIS GROUP, BUT THERE'S DIFFERENT MODELS TO DO THAT.

BUT AS THE SEARCH CONSULTANT AND THE SEARCH FIRM, LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

OK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE MICCICHE.

TRUSTEES ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS HERE? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

OF COURSE.

WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR SECOND PRESENTATION TODAY, WHICH IS O'HANLON, DEMERATH, & CASTILLO PC.

. THANK YOU. HI.

HELLO, WELCOME.

SO WHENEVER YOU ALL ARE READY, YOU MAY BEGIN.

WE'VE GOT ABOUT TWENTY FIVE MINUTES FOR THE ENTIRE THING, IF YOU COULD PRESERVE LIKE DO THE PRESENTATION ABOUT 10 TO 12 MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL RESERVE THE REMAINING TIME FOR QUESTIONS. SOUNDS GOOD.

WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO PRESENT BEFORE THIS BODY.

IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE. IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE.

IT'S AN HONOR TO TO MEET DR.

HINOJOSA AS WELL. HE'S A LEGEND IN THIS FIELD.

SO NICE TO MEET YOU, SIR.

MY NAME IS BENJAMIN CASTILLO.

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THIS IS EDEN RAMIREZ.

AND THIS IS NICK MADDOX.

AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO OF OUR CONSULTANTS VIA ZOOM, DR.

ABE SAAVEDRA AND DR.

DANIEL KING. THEY WORK AS OUR CONSULTANTS IN OUR SEARCHES.

MR. RAMIREZ HERE WILL GO AHEAD AND DO OUR PRESENTATION FOR US.

SOUNDS GOOD. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND GOOD AFTERNOON TO EVERYONE.

IT REALLY IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU ALL TODAY, AND WE WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO WE ARE, WHAT WE DO AND WHY WE THINK WE'LL BE A GREAT FIT FOR DALLAS ISD AS YOU MOVE ON INTO YOUR NEXT SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH FOR YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.

A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT SOME SEARCH FIRMS TALK ABOUT IS THE TRADITIONAL STUFF, RIGHT? HOW WELL WE VETTED CANDIDATES, WHAT WE DO AND EVERYTHING.

BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS ON WHAT WE DO, AND WHAT REALLY SETS US APART.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR FIRM REALLY TAKES PRIDE IN IS THAT OUR SEARCH PROCESS IS ACTUALLY YOUR SEARCH PROCESS.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT WE CONSIDER OURSELVES TO BE A FACILITATOR TO THE BOARD IN THE SEARCH, IN THE SEARCH FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT.

THAT MEANS THAT EVERYTHING WE DO IS ACTUALLY BRANDED THROUGH DALLAS ISD.

IT'S NOT BRANDED THROUGH OUR FIRMS. WE'RE NOT HERE TO PROMOTE OUR LOGOS OR DO ANYTHING.

WE'RE HERE TO EMPOWER THE BOARD TO DO THE SEARCH AND BE PART OF THE SEARCH AND WHY WE'RE HERE. THE OPPORTUNITY WE GET TO WORK WITH YOU SPECIFICALLY TO ASSIST YOU, TO EMPOWER YOU, TO ENGAGE YOU AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AS A LAW FIRM THAT GENERALLY WORKS AROUND SCHOOL DISTRICTS, WE HAVE A LOT OF INSIGHT IN HOW WE WORK AND HOW SUPERINTENDENTS SEARCH PROCESSES LOOK LIKE AND SPECIFICALLY THE LEGALITY THAT SURROUND IT AND WHAT WE DO WITH IT.

AND SO WE DO THINK WE BRING A VERY UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE TO YOU AS A LAW FIRM.

WHAT WE DO? WE'RE THE KIND OF SEARCH FIRM THAT'S HERE WITH YOU EVERY STEP OF THE WAY FROM START TO FINISH. THAT MEANS FROM THE FIRST BOARD MEETING WE HAVE WITH YOU AND A WORKSHOP STYLE TO DEVELOP WHAT OUR SEARCH WILL LOOK LIKE, ALL THE WAY UNTIL WE HAVE A NEGOTIATED CONTRACT EXECUTED AND SIGNED.

THAT'S EVERYTHING WE DO AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.

NOW WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT MEANS THAT WE DON'T EVEN BEGIN THE SEARCH.

WE DON'T BEGIN OUR TIMELINE.

WE DON'T BEGIN ANYTHING UNTIL WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT WITH YOU TO DEVELOP THAT.

WHEN WE SIT WITH YOU FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER WHAT OUR TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE. WE'RE GOING TO GET YOUR EXPECTATIONS, WE'RE GOING TO GET YOUR GOALS.

WE'RE GOING TO GET WHAT YOU WANT FROM YOUR SEARCH, HOW YOU WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAILOR THE SEARCH AROUND EXACTLY THAT.

THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT COMING WITH YOU ALREADY WITH A PRE-MADE MOLD FROM OTHER SEARCHES. WE'RE COMING TO YOU TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT AND HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS SEARCH ABOUT YOU AND HOW YOU DO THINGS.

AND THE BEAUTIFUL PART IS THAT YOU HAVE A ONE STOP SHOP WITH US IN EVERYTHING WE DO.

THIS MEANS WE FACILITATE YOUR TOWN HALL MEETINGS, WE FACILITATE YOUR FOCUS GROUPS, WE WORK WITH YOUR EMPLOYEE AND STUDENT SURVEYS, AND WE DO EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.

AND I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW.

OUR ROOTS, THOUGH, ARE DEEP IN EDUCATION LAW AND IN SEARCHES.

SINCE 1994 THAT WE'VE BEEN A LAW FIRM, WE'VE BEEN CONDUCTING THESE SORT OF WE'VE BEEN FACILITATING SUPERINTENDENT SEARCHES FOR SCHOOL BOARDS AND WE HAVE AN EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH THEM.

SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE DO.

JUST, YOU KNOW, ONCE IN A WHILE, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WE DIVE INTO JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE TAKE SERIOUS AND WORK REALLY HARD IN DOING TO MAKE SURE WE RENDER REALLY GOOD CANDIDATES FOR OUR CLIENTS.

AND WE TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN DOING THAT BECAUSE ALL THE CANDIDATES WE'VE RECRUITED, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK REALLY WELL WITH IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

AND I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS BROUGHT UP FOR CLARIFICATION WAS THAT, LIST AND YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION OF THAT OF THE SPECIFIC ONES IN YOUR PACKETS THAT WE PASSED OUT IN THE INFORMATION THAT WE SUBMITTED TO ANSWER.

AND SO OUR METHOD IS SIMPLE.

LIKE I SAID, THIS SEARCH BELONGS TO YOU.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT YOU BRING TO YOUR COMMUNITY.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMMUNITY BETTER THAN WE DO, AND EVERY SCHOOL BOARD IN TEXAS IS DIFFERENT AND DALLAS ISD IS PARTICULARLY DIFFERENT.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ONE OF THE PREMIER URBAN SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE NATION, AND WE TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY WITH Y'ALL.

AND WE KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU STRIVE FOR IS TO MAINTAIN THAT.

AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE BIG SHOES TO FILL AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT, IT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A COMPETENT SEARCH FIRM THAT'S GOING TO ASSIST YOU IN FINDING JUST THAT.

AND WE DO THINK WE CAN PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU.

BECAUSE WHEN WE DO OUR SEARCH, WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE.

DOES YOUR COMMUNITY WANT TO SEE TOWN HALLS? DO THEY WANT TO SEE TOWN HALLS IN ESPAÑOL, IN ENGLISH, OR ANOTHER LANGUAGE? DO THEY WANT TO HAVE COMMUNITY SURVEYS THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM EMPLOYEES, STUDENTS, AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

DO YOU WANT TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL FOCUS GROUPS WITH SCHOOL LEADERSHIP AND PRINCIPALS? ANYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT YOU THINK YOU NEED FOR INPUT FROM YOUR COMMUNITY, OUR SEARCH FIRM CAN DO AND DOES IT VERY WELL IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES, AND WE TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN THAT.

ADDITIONALLY, BEYOND THAT, RIGHT IS DEVELOPING THE PROFILE, AND WE USE A LOT OF THAT FROM THE INPUTS WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM YOUR COMMUNITY MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AND THEN CREATING THE SUPERINTENDENT PROFILE THAT'S GOING TO MATCH YOUR NEEDS.

ALL THAT PROCESS IS DONE WITH YOU ALONG THE WAY, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE TAKE FOR

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GRANTED OURSELVES.

SO THE COMMUNITY INPUT, RIGHT? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WE THINK THAT'S A HUGE STEP.

IF IT'S A STEP THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD WANTS TO TAKE, SOME SCHOOL BOARDS ARE MORE RESERVED.

OTHERS ARE MORE OPEN.

OTHERS REALLY WANT FULL ENGAGEMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY.

AND THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO FOR YOU AS A SEARCH FIRM.

BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THESE PLATFORMS AND PROVIDE THESE INPUT OPPORTUNITIES, WE TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN THAT.

WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR TEAM, RIGHT, BENJAMIN, INTRODUCED HIMSELF RIGHT NOW, MYSELF, DR.

ABE SAAVEDRA AND DANIEL KING.

WE REALLY ASSEMBLED TOGETHER A TEAM OF BOTH ATTORNEYS AND FORMER EDUCATORS.

BOTH DR. SAAVEDRA AND DR.

DANIEL KING WERE FORMER SUPERINTENDENTS AT VERY INNOVATIVE AND VERY FORWARD THINKING SCHOOL DISTRICTS LIKE THE PHARR-SAN JUAN-ALAMO SCHOOL DISTRICT AND DR.

SAAVEDRA IN HOUSTON ISD.

SO WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE URBAN SETTINGS AND WHAT THEY REQUIRE WHEN WE'RE CONDUCTING A SEARCH. AND SO OUR TEAM TOGETHER HAS OVER ONE HUNDRED YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN EDUCATION.

NOW EVERYONE PLAYS A DIFFERENT ROLE IN THE SEARCH FIRM IN THE SEARCH PROCESS, RIGHT? I WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH DEVELOPING AND PROVIDING THE INPUT TO CREATING THE PROFILE.

BEN WORKS VERY CAREFULLY WHEN IT COMES TO DOING THE VETTING AND EVALUATION.

DR. KING AND DR. SAAVEDRA, BEING THE EDUCATION EXPERTS, REALLY GO IN AND FOCUS LASER IN WHEN WE'RE VETTING THESE CANDIDATES.

NOW THERE'S NOTHING THAT ANY OTHER SEARCH FIRM DOES WITH RESPECT TO VETTING CANDIDATES THAT WE DON'T DO.

WE DO EVERYTHING FROM CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECKS.

WE DO EVERYTHING FROM CREDIT CHECKS.

WE WORK WITH OURSELVES.

WE WORK WITH THIRD PARTIES.

WE CONDUCT TEAMS THAT HELP US SOCIAL MEDIA VET.

WE MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO SURPRISES TO YOU WITH ANY CANDIDATE YOU PICK.

BY THE TIME A CANDIDATE COMES BEFORE YOU FOR AN INTERVIEW, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE READY TO ASK QUESTIONS FOR.

AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THE POINT IN THAT OTHER THAN JUST SAYING THAT WE DO ALL OF THAT, AND YOU PROBABLY HEARD THAT FROM ALL THE FIRMS YOU'VE INTERVIEWED BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY, A PRACTICE THAT EVERYBODY DOES.

BUT DR. SAAVEDRA AND DR.

KING REALLY HELPED US ZERO IN ON THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY GOOGLE THE REPUTATION OF A FORMER EDUCATOR FROM THOSE COMMUNITIES AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR COMMUNITY THOUGHT ABOUT THEM NECESSARILY UNLESS THERE WAS AN ARTICLE OR SOMETHING. SO WE WORK VERY CLOSELY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW THE CANDIDATES BETTER AND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

AND SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT A TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE, WE DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE GIVING YOU DATES FOR A TIMELINE, SAYING THIS IS WHEN THIS HAPPENS OR THAT'S WHEN THAT HAPPENS, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THE BOARD WANTS IT TO HAPPEN, NOT WHEN WE WANT IT TO HAPPEN.

AND SO IN OUR TIMELINE, WE JUST PROVIDED A GENERAL PROCESS OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, RIGHT? THE FIRST PART OF CONDUCTING A SEARCH IS GETTING COMMUNITY INPUT, DOING ALL THE INPUTS FOR WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW FOR A CANDIDATE.

RIGHT. TALKING ABOUT ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY, CONDUCTING, LISTENING AND LEARNING TOURS BY THE BOARD. WE TAKE YOU ON THE ROAD IF YOU WANT AND WE WORK WITH YOU TO MEET WITH THE FOCUS GROUPS SO YOU CAN LEARN WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

NOW YOU WORK WITH OVER A DOZEN CITIES, RIGHT, SOME UNINCORPORATED AREAS.

YOU HAVE A LARGE POPULATION THAT'S VERY DIVERSE AND WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU MAKE SURE YOU MEET THE NEEDS OF THIS DIVERSE COMMUNITY WHEN CONDUCTING YOUR SEARCH.

AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR TOTALITY OF THING, THIS REALLY IS A SEARCH PROCESS THAT ENGAGES, EMPOWERS AND BELONGS TO DALLAS ISD.

WE'RE NOT HERE TO PUT OUR LOGO IN FRONT OF ANYTHING.

WE'RE NOT HERE TO SAY THAT WE'RE DOING THIS OR WE'RE DOING THAT.

WE'RE HERE TO WORK SERIOUSLY WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR PROCESS IS ONE YOU CAN BE PROUD OF AND A PROCESS THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO TAKE TO YOUR COMMUNITY AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH YOU.

NOT SOMETHING THAT A SEARCH FIRM IS COMING TO YOU TO DO AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT THIS WAY, AND WE TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN THAT, AND WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL WITH THAT IN OUR PREVIOUS SEARCHES.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE I'M WITH TIME, BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

TRUSTEES WE WILL TAKE QUESTIONS.

TRUSTEE FOREMAN, GOOD AFTERNOON.

SO I'LL ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION THAT I ASKED THE PREVIOUS COMPANY.

HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THIS SOLICITATION? WE WERE EMAILED.

YOU WERE EMAILED? YES, MA'AM, WE WERE EMAILED AND INVITED TO SUBMIT OUR PROPOSAL.

AND WERE YOU GIVEN ANY PARAMETERS? YEAH, KIND OF JUST YOU GUYS NEEDED A PROPOSAL AND BE READY TO PRESENT.

[LAUGHTER] AND YOU HAD.

CAN YOU TALK INTO THE MIC? I'M SORRY, TRUSTEE.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU. I'M SORRY.

YOU CAN'T HEAR ME OR HIM.

I'M SORRY. OH YES, WE WERE GIVEN KIND OF A PROCESS OR FORMAT.

YOU WERE GIVEN A FORMAT. OK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEE FOREMAN.

TRUSTEES ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS HERE? TRUSTEE JOHNSON.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT KIND OF FORMAT YOU WAS GIVEN? I MEAN, IT WAS ESSENTIALLY TO PLEASE SUBMIT PRESENTATION MATERIALS FOR THE BOARD TO

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REVIEW. WE WERE GIVEN QUESTIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY A COUPLE OF TRUSTEES TO ANSWER FOR YOU GUYS TO HAVE PREVIOUSLY.

SO YOU COULD REVIEW.

AS FAR AS PRESENTATION FORMAT WE WERE TOLD 12 MINUTES, BUT I ASKED AS WE WALKED IN.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE DID TO PREPARE.

AND IT'S KIND OF A REGULAR THING AS WELL.

SO WE ASKED AS WE WALKED IN AND WHAT THE PRESENTATION FORMAT, WHAT THE EXPECTATION WAS OF THE TRUSTEES. AND YOU SAID THAT YOU WAS EMAIL TO PRESENT TODAY.

YES, SIR. DO YOU KNOW BY WHO? I BELIEVE IT WAS, MS. SHANTELL. OK, THANK YOU.

I PROVIDED THE PARAMETERS FOR PRESENTATION, BUT I DID NOT REQUEST ANYONE TO PRESENT.

ALL RIGHT. IS THAT IT, TRUSTEE JOHNSON? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. TRUSTEES WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE LAST PRESENTATION WE HAVE, WHICH WILL BE EUGENE AND ASSOCIATES PC.

THANK YOU. THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. WHENEVER YOU ALL ARE READY TO BEGIN, YOU MAY.

WE ASK THAT YOU TAKE ABOUT NO MORE THAN 10 TO 12 MINUTES FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'LL RESERVE THE REMAINING TIME FOR QUESTIONS.

OK? IS THE MIC LIVE? THE MIC IS.

HELLO. MY NAME IS DARRICK EUGENE WITH THE LAW FIRM OF EUGENE AND ASSOCIATES.

AND IN A MOMENT, I'LL PRESENT THE REMAINDER OF MY TEAM.

ALSO, MS. CELENA REED IS HERE WITH ME TODAY.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND IN RECOGNITION AND CONGRATULATIONS TO SUPERINTENDENT DR.

HINOJOSA ON HIS TENURE HERE AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP FILL HIS FOOTSTEPS FILLING HIS SHOES. SO GLAD TO BE HERE TODAY AS EUGENE & ASSOCIATES, PC.

WHO IS EUGENE & ASSOCIATES, PC? WELL, TO START WITH THAT, IT WOULD START WITH WHO AM I? AND I ASKED THAT QUESTION IN A WAY THAT WOULD TEE UP A NUMBER OF ISSUES, SO I AM OBVIOUSLY A MAN, A BLACK MAN.

I'M A LAWYER. I'M A LONGHORN.

I'M A BUSINESSMAN.

I'M A LEADERSHIP DALLAS ALUMNI.

I'M A ROTARIAN, I'M AN EQUESTRIAN.

I'M A LIFELONG FRIEND OF A NOTABLE SPRUCE GRADUATE.

I'M A COMPADRE OF A SCION OF THE AGUIRRE ARCHITECTURE FIRM.

I'M ALL OF THESE THINGS AND MORE.

I'M A PRODUCT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND I TALK ABOUT THAT AS A VISITING LECTURER AT THE UT GRADUATE SCHOOL TO BRING TO BEAR THE POINT OF WHAT IS DIVERSITY, WHAT IS DIVERSITY ABOUT.

AND TO ME, DIVERSITY IS NOT ONLY ABOUT RECOGNIZING AND CELEBRATING DIFFERENCES, BUT ALSO

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FINDING WAYS TO CONNECT, TO CONNECT WITH THE BROADEST CONSTITUENCIES AND COMMUNITIES POSSIBLE.

AND IN THAT CONNECTION, WHEN PEOPLE CONNECT, THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER.

WHEN PEOPLE CONNECT THEY CAN DO BUSINESS TOGETHER.

WHEN PEOPLE CONNECT THEY CAN CREATE TOGETHER.

AND WHEN PEOPLE CONNECT, THEY CAN LEARN TOGETHER.

AND I BELIEVE FROM WHAT EVERYTHING THAT I'VE READ ABOUT DISD AND YOUR BOARD AND YOUR A.E.

LOCAL MISSION TO EDUCATE ALL STUDENTS, I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHAT THE DISD BOARD WANTS AND WOULD CELEBRATE IN ITS SELECTION OF A NEW SUPERINTENDENT THAT RACIAL EQUITY AND INCLUSION. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE EUGENE & ASSOCIATES PC LAW FIRM AND SEARCH FIRM WILL BRING TO THE TABLE.

SO WHO ARE WE? EUGENE & ASSOCIATES, WE'RE A FULL SERVICE SCHOOL LAW FIRM THAT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 2019.

I'M ALSO GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE TEXAS ALLIANCE OF BLACK SCHOOL EDUCATORS.

I'VE ALSO ASSEMBLED A TEAM OF THOSE IN HIGHER EDUCATION, SUPERINTENDENTS, FORMER SUPERINTENDENTS, FORMER BOARD MEMBERS TO COME TOGETHER TO PUT TOGETHER THE EUGENE & ASSOCIATES SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH FIRM.

BUT WE ARE A STARTUP SEARCH FIRM.

AND SO I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT IN LIFE WHEN YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE WITH THE HISTORY OF SUCCESS AND TRACK RECORD OF OUR OTHER COMPETITORS.

BUT I'VE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT IF LIFE DEALS YOU LEMONS MAKE LEMONADE.

IF YOU GET RICE AND ROOT, MAKE A GUMBO.

AND SO I'M FOCUSING ON WHAT WE DO BRING TO THE TABLE IN TERMS OF A START UP SEARCH FIRM.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT DIFFERENT STARTUPS, LET'S TAKE A, YOU KNOW, UBER COMPARED TO TAXI COMPANIES OR THE IPHONE COMPARED TO BLOCKBUSTER OR NETFLIX IPHONE COMPARED TO THE BLACKBERRY REMEMBER THAT OR NETFLIX COMPARED TO THE BLOCKBUSTER.

WHAT IS COMMON AMONG THOSE? WELL, MANY PEOPLE THINK IT'S THE TECHNOLOGY THAT IT WAS TECHNOLOGY THAT SET THEM APART.

BUT I WOULD OFFER IT WASN'T THE TECHNOLOGY.

IT WAS THE PASSION BEHIND THE BELIEF IN PROVIDING CUSTOMER SERVICE AND MEETING CUSTOMER NEEDS. AND THAT'S WHAT SET THOSE STARTUPS APART FROM THE LEGACY COMPANIES.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO SET APART EUGENE & ASSOCIATES FROM ANYBODY IN THE FIELD BECAUSE WE DO BRING EXPERIENCE, THOUGH WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY DONE SEARCHES BEFORE.

MY TEAM HAS EXPERIENCE IN GOING THROUGH SEARCHES, ADVISING ON SEARCHES AND BEING A PART OF SEARCHES. WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS AND CONNECTIONS.

AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, WE'VE GOT CONNECTIONS.

I'M THE GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE TEXAS ALLIANCE OF BLACK SCHOOL EDUCATORS.

WE'RE A PART OF NABSE, TALAS, [INAUDIBLE] ALAS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

ALL THE ALPHABET SOUP ORGANIZATIONS AND AFFINITY GROUP ORGANIZATIONS WE HAVE ORGANIC CONNECTIONS TO.

WE BRING ENERGY TO THE TABLE.

WE HAVE A GROUP OF CONSULTANTS AND SEASONED SEARCH OFFICERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ENERGIZED BEHIND PROVIDING TO DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT THE NEED TO BRING TOGETHER THIS COMMUNITY TO BE INVOLVED IN THE SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH AND THEN ALSO OUR ALLEGIANCE. WITHOUT HISTORY, WE HAVE NO ALLEGIANCE TO ANYONE ELSE.

OUR ALLEGIANCE WILL SIMPLY BE TO THE DALLAS ISD SCHOOL BOARD AND TRUSTEES AND TO THIS COMMUNITY IN THIS PROCESS, SO WE HAVE NO OTHER ALLEGIANCES.

SO LET'S GET INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE PROCESS OF THE SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH, AND THAT'S WHERE I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO MY PARTNER AND COLLEAGUE, DR.

RICHARD BOSTIC.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DARRICK EUGENE, I APPRECIATE YOU.

AS HE MENTIONED, MY NAME IS DR.

ROBERT BOSTIC AND I AM THE OWNER OF THE SCHOOL'S ONE STOP SHOP, LLC.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK JUST BRIEFLY ABOUT OUR PROCESS TODAY.

OUR PROCESS USES A TRIED AND TRUE PROGRESSION TO A SWOT ANALYSIS WORKSHOP, WITH THE BOARD RIGHT UP FRONT TO DETERMINE WHAT THE BOARD BELIEVES ARE STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES AND OPPORTUNITIES.

AND DARRICK.

YOUR THOUGHTS. I'VE, SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS ON SWOT ANALYSIS USING MENTIMETER AND FOUND THAT PROCESS TO BE TRANSFORMATIVE.

NOW YOU MAY HAVE DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS ALREADY WITH LONE STAR GOVERNANCE OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF TEAM BUILDING MECHANISM, BUT WHAT IT ALLOWS US TO DO IS TO GET TO KNOW BEFORE WE START MOVING INTO THE COMMUNITY TO GET TO KNOW THIS BOARD BETTER.

AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT WOULD BE AN ASPECT OF WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO DO TO INITIATE THIS SEARCH PROCESS.

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WELL, ALL OF THIS IS DONE TO HELP DEVELOP THE SUPERINTENDENT PROFILE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE CORNERSTONES OF OUR WORK AND PROCESS.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO PROVIDE MULTIPLE AVENUES FOR THE STAFF, STUDENTS, PARENTS AND THE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, FAITH BASED LEADERSHIP AND ELECTED'S TO GIVE INPUT ON BUILDING A SUPERINTENDENT PROFILE.

AND MOST OF THIS IS GATHERED ONLINE THROUGH SURVEY QUESTIONS AND OPEN ENDED ANSWERS, SO WE GET THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF DATA CAPTURED TO BUILD AN AUTHENTIC PROFILE.

WE ALSO PROVIDE IN-PERSON FACE TO FACE OPPORTUNITIES TO HEAR FROM DALLAS ISD CONSTITUENTS THROUGH TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND OTHER FORMATS THAT WE CAN GET FEEDBACK FROM.

MR. EUGENE, MYSELF, OR ONE OF THE MANY ASSOCIATES THAT HE TALKED ABOUT, WILL FACILITATE TOWN HALL MEETINGS IN PERSON OR ON FACEBOOK LIVE OR YOUTUBE LIVE TO GET ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE ULTIMATELY GOING TO USE TO COMPILE A DRAFT SUPERINTENDENTS PROFILE FOR THE BOARD TO REVIEW AND TWEAK OR TO IMPROVE.

OUR PROCESS ALSO INCLUDES GATHERING LOTS OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE POTENTIAL CANDIDATES BEYOND GETTING THEIR COVER LETTER RESUME OR CV, AND A LIST OF REFERENCES.

EUGENE & ASSOCIATES BELIEVES THAT WE MUST TRUST.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO VERIFY, AND WE'D LIKE TO KNOW THE TYPE OF LEADER THAT WE'RE GOING TO EVEN PUT IN FRONT OF YOU TO INTERVIEW.

WE USE A SUBSCRIPTION BASED PRODUCT CALLED AUTHENTIC LEADERSHIP QUESTIONNAIRE.

THIS PRODUCT WAS CREATED BY BRUCE AVOLIO AND LEONARD BASS MANY YEARS AGO.

IT GOES ALONG WITH MY RESEARCH.

WE BELIEVE THAT THE AUTHENTIC LEADERSHIP QUESTIONNAIRE MEASURES SELF-AWARENESS, TRANSPARENCY AND ETHICAL AND MORAL CONDUCT AND BALANCE PROCESSING OF THE POTENTIAL LEADER. AND THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US MORE DATA AND JUST AN ADDITIONAL DATA POINT FOR TRUSTEES TO CONSIDER AND REVIEW IN MAKING A HIRING DECISION THAT WILL BE SHARED WITH TRUSTEES AT THE CANDIDATE SELECTION FOR INTERVIEWS IN A CLOSED SESSION MEETING.

AT EUGENE & ASSOCIATES, WE WANT TO WIDELY PROMOTE THE ADVERTISEMENT OF THE POSITION, AND WE PLAN TO DO THAT THROUGH TRADITIONAL FRAMEWORKS OF PLACING THE JOB ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE DISTRICT'S WEBSITE, AS WELL AS, AS MR. EUGENE ALREADY MENTIONED TEXAS ISD'S, TASA, TABSE, WHERE I ACTUALLY DO TRAINING FOR THE ASPIRING SUPERINTENDENTS INSTITUTE FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

AND NABSE, SAME, TALAS, ALAS, AASA, TLBSA AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE FIRM'S WEBSITE.

WE BELIEVE THAT ONCE THE TRUSTEES HAVE APPROVED THE SUPERINTENDENT PROFILE, THEN WE CAN ACCELERATE TO OUR NEXT PHASE OF THE WORK, WHICH INCLUDES SCREENING ALL APPLICANTS AGAINST THE CRITERIA SET BY THE BOARD THROUGH THE SUPERINTENDENTS PROFILE.

WE MEET WITH THE BOARD TO DISCUSS THE TOP CANDIDATES THAT MEET THE CRITERIA, AND THEN WE SET UP INTERVIEWS.

LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE FOR ME.

THE STAGES, I THINK THAT'S NEXT.

I'M SORRY, TRUSTEES I CAN'T SEE IT, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'RE ON THAT WHERE IT SAYS THE STAGES. STAGES, YES, WE'RE ON STAGES.

OK, SO IT'S THE STAGES OF OUR PROCESS.

THIS IS JUST BASICALLY A TIMELINE, AND THE TIMELINE IS NOT RIGID, BUT INSTEAD IS A FRAMEWORK THAT WE CAN CONDENSE, SHRINK, EXPAND OR SCALE AS DIRECTED BY THE BOARD.

NOW, TYPICALLY, THAT SHOULD TAKE ABOUT EIGHT WEEKS, BUT THIS IS DALLAS ISD.

SO THIS ISN'T ANYBODY ELSE AND VERY, VERY UNIQUE, THE COMMUNITY AND THE QUALITY OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE.

SO IT CAN TAKE LONGER OR SHORTER BECAUSE THE INPUT REALLY MATTERS.

BECAUSE WHEN WE SET UP THE PROFILE, THAT'S REALLY GOING TO HELP GET SOME PARAMETERS AROUND THAT TIMELINE, ON THIS IS HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE.

BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE GET INPUT FROM ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT AREAS.

MR. EUGENE.

SO. OUR TEAM, I THINK I'VE PUT TOGETHER A TEAM OF THOROUGHBREDS, QUITE FRANKLY, IN THEIR RESPECTIVE FIELD.

DR. BOSTIC, WHO JUST SPOKE, IS NOTED IN THE FIELD OF EDUCATION.

DR. KIMBERLY MCLEOD, A LOCAL DEAN OF TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY COMMERCE, WILL BE CONSULTING WITH US IN HER CAPACITY AS DEAN OF THE COLLEGE OF EDUCATION.

AND OBVIOUSLY, THAT GIVES HER A GREAT BREADTH OF UNDERSTANDING OF EDUCATION OF PEOPLE THAT ARE PURSUING EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.

WE HAVE MS. CELENA REED, CONSULTANT FROM HOUSTON, THAT'S ALSO A PART OF OUR TEAM.

AND OUR ASSOCIATE ATTORNEY, MS. PAIGE BOSTIC.

AND AS DR.

BOSTIC DESCRIBED, WE HAVE VARIOUS AFFILIATES WITH THE EUGENE & ASSOCIATES ORGANIZATION.

AND SO I THINK IN CLOSING.

IN CLOSING, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

AND I KNOW THAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE DISD BOARD HERE TO DO IS TO MAKE A CAPACITY

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BUILDING INVESTMENT.

AND LIKE I SAID ALSO.

ON MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.

I'M A GOLFER. MAYBE IF THEY MAKE THE HOLE A LITTLE BIGGER, I'M A PG K A PREACHER'S GRANDKID. BUT ONE THING I AM NOT IS A TOKEN AND I'M NOT HERE TO BE A TOKEN TODAY.

EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NEW, WE WANT TO GO AFTER THIS BUSINESS WITH THE TYPE OF SINCERITY AND APPROACH THAT IT DEMANDS, AND I BELIEVE THAT I'M HERE FOR A PURPOSE.

AND JUST AS SUCH A TIME AS THIS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

TRUSTEES, WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO TRUSTEE QUESTIONS.

TRUSTEE GARCIA.

GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT I MAY HAVE MISSED THIS IN THE ATTACHMENTS IN THE EMAIL SENT EARLIER TO US TODAY, BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I POSED WAS THE ACCESSIBILITY OF YOUR MATERIALS, YOU KNOW, SURVEYS, PRESENTATIONS AND OTHER INFORMATION IN OTHER LANGUAGES.

DISD IS A COMMUNITY OF MANY LANGUAGES AND I THINK LANGUAGE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST ACCESSIBLE WAYS TO COMMUNICATE, ESPECIALLY WITH AT LARGE ABOUT THE SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH.

DO YOU HAVE YOUR MATERIALS READILY AVAILABLE IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE AND IF NOT, IS THAT AVAILABLE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DO? ABSOLUTELY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I WAS TRYING TO GET A TRANSLATOR HERE TODAY FOR THIS PRESENTATION, BUT ALL OF OUR MATERIAL WOULD BE AVAILABLE IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES.

WE GET WITH YOUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT TO SEE WHAT THE PRIMARY LANGUAGE WOULD BE SPANISH, OF COURSE, AND IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL LANGUAGES.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WOULD BE AS INCLUSIVE AS POSSIBLE.

OK, THANK YOU. AND THEN A SECOND QUESTION TO THAT IS JUST AROUND THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. YOU'D MENTIONED JUST THE RELATIVE NEWNESS OF THIS FIRM.

WHAT ABILITY WOULD YOU HAVE TO CONDUCT ONLINE MEETINGS, ZOOM MEETINGS, COMMUNITY MEETINGS? I MEAN, WHAT LEVEL OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT COULD WE EXPECT TO SEE FROM YOUR FIRM? RIGHT. WELL, WE WOULD BE ON THE GROUND HERE TO DO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FROM TOWN HALLS, COMMUNITY MEETINGS, SCHOOL VISITS, ET CETERA.

WE WOULD ALSO COORDINATE ONLINE TECHNOLOGY THAT WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE BROADER COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT WOULD BE FACEBOOK, YOUTUBE SESSIONS, ET CETERA, SO BOTH TECHNICAL AND IN-PERSON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WE WILL HAVE BOOTS ON THE GROUND IN DALLAS, IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. OK.

AND I ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH THE WEBSITE AS YOU WERE PRESENTING, BUT I DON'T SEE PAST SUPERINTENDENT SEARCHES.

SO IS THIS YOUR FIRST SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH? I TRIED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AT THE OUTSET.

THIS IS OUR FIRST. WE ARE NEW TO THIS BUSINESS.

WE ARE A SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH STARTUP, OK.

WE DECIDED TO GET INTO THIS LINE OF BUSINESS IN 2022 AND JUST SO HAPPENED.

DR. HINOJOSA DECIDED TO GO TO [LAUGHTER] BETTER PASTURES AND WE THOUGHT WE'D YOU KNOW, PURSUE THIS OPPORTUNITY.

WELL, I HOPE NOT. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU TRUSTEE GARCIA.

TRUSTEE FOREMAN. GOOD AFTERNOON.

HELLO. SO JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

HOW DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY FROM DALLAS ISD? YES. WELL, WE HEARD ABOUT WHEN DR.

HINOJOSA RESIGNED.

AND THEN I BELIEVE YOUR PUBLICATION.

WHAT IS IT CALLED? YOUR COMMUNITY PUBLICATION TALKED ABOUT THE SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH PROCESS, AND SO WE SENT OUR INFORMATION TO MS. GRANT, MS. GRANT.

YES. OK, SO BASICALLY YOU FOUND OUT ABOUT IT ON YOUR OWN? YES. AND THE DISTRICT DID NOT ENHANCE THAT.

JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION REGARDING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND TIMELINE.

WHAT KIND OF TIMELINE I KNOW YOU'RE NEW.

I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS. I WAS IN BUSINESS FOR 30 YEARS, SO I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU.

I APPLAUD YOU FOR EVEN COMING BEFORE US FOR A [INAUDIBLE] A TASK THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT. BUT WHAT KIND OF TIMELINE WOULD YOU ENVISION OF JUST TALKING ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPLACE A SUPERINTENDENT IN A DISTRICT AS LARGE AS DALLAS ISD? AND I'LL LET MY COLLEAGUE, DR.

BOSTIC, EXPAND ON THAT.

BUT THE FIRST STEP IN THAT TIMELINE, I WOULD REALLY WANT TO BE THE SWOT ANALYSIS.

AND I USUALLY DO THAT OVER TWO DAYS, FOUR HOURS EACH DAY THE STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES AND OPPORTUNITIES. THAT ALLOWS ME TO GET A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR ORGANIZATION.

AND TYPICALLY I DO IT WITH AN ORGANIZATION'S LEADERSHIP, NOT JUST THE BOARD OR THE SENIOR STAFF, BUT WE OFTEN BRING IN COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND STUDENTS INTO THAT SWOT PROCESS.

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BUT GIVEN THE SIZE OF YOUR BOARD AND YOUR ORGANIZATION, THAT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE FEASIBLE. SO WE START OFF WITH THOSE TWO DAYS AND THEN FROM THERE WE GO INTO OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WHICH I'LL LET DR.

BOSTIC RESPOND.

ABSOLUTELY. SO I REALLY WAS LOOKING AT THIS IN TERMS OF ABOUT 8 TO 10 WEEKS.

AND LET ME TELL YOU WHERE I COME INTO THAT.

SO AS A SITTING SUPERINTENDENT AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND PUT TO REST 3.7 OF MY CONTRACT GIVES ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU TODAY.

IN FACT, I HAD TO TAKE OFF IN ORDER TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

BUT HERE'S THE DEAL.

I SEE 8 TO 10 WEEKS AND HERE'S WHY.

BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT SPRING BREAK IN BETWEEN, THAT IS A CHALLENGE.

YOU ALSO HAVE EASTER AND THEN IN ORDER TO GET AUTHENTIC FEEDBACK FROM EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY IS NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE AT THE TIME THAT WE PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR FACEBOOK LIVE OR TO PUT IT ON YOUTUBE LIVE AND THEN TO GET PEOPLE TO COME DOWN AND YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE THEM MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES.

SO THAT'S WHY I SEE 8 TO 10 WEEKS, WHICH EVEN THOUGH THIS SAMPLE TIMELINE KIND OF PUTS IT IN JUNE, IT COULD STRETCH IT AND GET IT ALMOST TO THE END OF JUNE.

BUT I THINK MS. FOREMAN WAS ASKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE DR.

BOSTIC. HE ANSWERED. HE DID. MUCH OF WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR, BUT MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT IS WITH THE NUMBER OF SUPERINTENDENTS THAT HAVE RESIGNED RECENTLY.

WILL YOU GUYS TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION RATHER THAN A RUSH TO FIND A SUPERINTENDENT? WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND SAY, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO WAIT A LITTLE LONGER TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE RIGHT PERSON BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A DIFFICULT TASK WITH SO MANY SUPERINTENDENTS RESIGNING IN THIS AREA.

AND I KNOW THERE ARE SOME MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD THAT WANT TO RUSH THE SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH. I'M NOT ONE OF THEM.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE RIGHT PERSON IN PLACE, AND SO WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO TELLING THE BOARD HONESTLY, THAT WE'RE NOT READY YET? WE WOULD EUGENE WOULD SAY THE SAME THING.

SO I HAPPEN TO SERVE AS THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THE ONLY MUNICIPAL SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO I'VE GOT 14 FOLKS CITY COUNCIL AND SCHOOL BOARD AS CITY COUNCIL AND A SCHOOL BOARD. AND MANY TIMES BECAUSE THEY WANT THE BEST IT DOES TAKE IT TAKES MORE TIME AND WE'VE GOT TO GO OUT THERE AND SEE.

THERE'S SIXTY ONE AND MAYBE SIXTY THREE OPENINGS RIGHT NOW AND TO GO OUT AND REALLY SEARCH FOR FOLKS AND THEN TO GET SOME TRUE FEEDBACK IT MAY TAKE TIME BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT JUST ANYBODY. YOU'VE GOT TO FIND THE VERY BEST LEADER FOR DALLAS ISD.

MR. EUGENE. THANK YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEE FOREMAN.

TRUSTEES, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HERE? TRUSTEE HENRY.

FIRST, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I HAVE A QUESTION THAT WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP BY A PREVIOUS PRESENTER.

THEY MADE A STATEMENT THAT THEY DON'T REPRESENT SUPERINTENDENTS EVER.

AND I KNOW YOUR FIRM IS A STARTUP FIRM.

DO YOU REPRESENT SUPERINTENDENTS? DO YOU INTEND TO REPRESENT SUPERINTENDENTS? NO, WE ARE A STARTUP SEARCH FIRM.

BUT I'VE BEEN PRACTICING SCHOOL LAW NOW FOR SEVEN YEARS.

I STARTED MY OWN FIRM IN 2019 AND WE ONLY REPRESENT DISTRICTS.

WE DON'T REPRESENT ADMINISTRATORS, SUPERINTENDENT, TEACHERS.

WE ONLY REPRESENT DISTRICTS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE HENRY.

TRUSTEES, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HERE? TRUSTEE JOHNSON.

I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I DO WANT TO APPRECIATE YOUR STATEMENT CONCERNING RACIAL EQUITY AND DIVERSITY THAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME AND TO MY COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY I BELIEVE THIS BOARD WE SERVE THAT I'VE SERVED ON IS WE ARE BIG ON EQUITY.

AND SO I APPRECIATE YOUR STATEMENT.

I BELIEVE YOU'RE THE ONLY FIRM THAT I'VE HEARD THAT ACTUALLY SPOKE THAT.

SO THANK YOU. WELL, AGAIN, I READ YOUR LITERATURE, YOUR STATEMENT, MISSION AND VISION [INAUDIBLE] AE LOCAL, I MEAN IT.

IT IS RIFE ON DISCUSSING THAT ISSUE, AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR BEING THE PREMIER URBAN SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT YOU ARE TO TAKE THAT ISSUE HEAD ON.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEE JOHNSON.

TRUSTEES ARE THERE ANY FINAL QUESTIONS HERE? THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, WE APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION.

TRUSTEES WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ACTION ITEM 5 A, WE ARE NOW ON AGENDA ITEM 5 A TO SELECT

[A. Consider and Take Possible Action to Select a Search Firm to Assist the District in Conducting a Superintendent Search and Community Engagement Activities and to Negotiate and Enter into a Contract with the Selected Search Firm to Assist the District in the Hiring of the Superintendent of Schools (Not to Exceed $150,000 General Operating Funds)]

A SEARCH FIRM TO ASSIST THE DISTRICT IN CONDUCTING A SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES, AND NEGOTIATE AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE SELECTED SEARCH FIRM TO ASSIST THE DISTRICT IN HIRING THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS NOT TO EXCEED ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS GENERAL OPERATING FUNDS.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? MR. PRESIDENT, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE BOARD SELECT JG CONSULTING TO ASSIST THE DISTRICT IN CONDUCTING A SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES INTO

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NEGOTIATED AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE SELECTED SEARCH FIRM TO ASSESS THE DISTRICT ASSIST THE DISTRICT IN THE HIRING OF THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS.

SECOND. SO LET ME ASK A QUICK QUESTION TO OUR PARLIAMENTARIAN.

I KNOW WE'RE SET UP TO DO NOMINATIONS.

CAN WE ACCEPT.

IT WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND? SO ARE WE ABLE TO DISCUSS AND TAKE A VOTE ON THAT OR DO WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NOMINATIONS? YOU GOT TO HAVE DISCUSSION.

THAT WAS THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

YEP. SO THAT NEEDS TO BE VOTED ON.

DISCUSS. UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO, NO, THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT.

SO IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO SELECT JG CONSULTING AS THE SEARCH FIRM.

DISCUSSION. TRUSTEE WE'VE HAVE A DISCUSSION.

OF COURSE THERE'LL BE DISCUSSION.

OK. DON'T TRY TO PULL THAT. I GOT TO STATE THAT FIRST.

AND SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO APPROVE JG CONSULTING AS THE DISTRICT SEARCH FIRM NOT TO EXCEED ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS GENERAL OPERATING FUNDS.

SO NOW TRUSTEES, THERE WILL BE DISCUSSION.

TRUSTEE FOREMAN. OKAY, SO EXCUSE ME.

JG CONSULTANTS WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT TO US BY WHOM? WHO RECOMMENDED JG CONSULTING? I CAN I'LL SPEAK TO THE PROCESS.

SO.

I DON'T WANT ALL THE RHETORIC.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHO ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED JG CONSULTING TO THIS BOARD.

I ASKED OUR COUNSEL FOR NAMES OF THE LARGEST SEARCH FIRMS IN TEXAS AND IN THE NATION THAT DO THIS WORK, AND JG CONSULTING WAS ONE OF THOSE, AND THEREFORE THEY WERE REACHED OUT TO AMONGST THE OTHERS THAT WE SPOKE WITH LAST WEEK.

SO WHO REACHED OUT TO JG CONSULTING? THEY WERE EMAILED WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANTED TO APPLY BY ME, LIKE ALL OF THE OTHER FIRMS OF THOSE FIRST FOUR.

[INAUDIBLE] JG CONSULTING BY ANYONE AT DISD AFTER THEY WERE RECOMMENDED? I DID NOT HAVE ANY.

I DON'T THINK. WERE THERE CONVERSATIONS BY THE ATTORNEY THAT YOU CHOSE MR. MACKEY, BECAUSE THE BOARD DIDN'T CHOOSE THEM.

WERE THERE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PEOPLE THAT HE RECOMMENDED? NO. NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

NOT TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE.

WELL, I PERSONALLY AND I'VE SAID THIS PRIVATELY AND I'M SAYING IT PUBLICLY.

I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR ANY FIRM THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THIS BOARD'S ATTORNEY, AND WE DID NOT GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF PROCUREMENT.

THE ONLY REASON WE HAVE THESE OTHER FIRMS HERE TODAY WAS JUST WINDOW DRESSING.

IT WAS WINDOW DRESSING BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH A PROCUREMENT PROCESS, AND I AM NOT GOING TO BE A PART OF THAT KIND OF RAILROAD BY THIS DISTRICT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WE NEED TO HAVE AN OPEN PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO INTERFERENCE FROM ANYONE REGARDING WHO THE SEARCH FIRM IS.

SO I PERSONALLY WILL BE VOTING NO TO THIS SEARCH FIRM AND I WILL HAVE A MOTION AFTER THIS. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE FOREMAN TRUSTEE JOHNSON.

YES, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN THE PROCESS OR WHAT HAS BEEN OUR NORMAL PROCESS CONCERNING SEARCHING FOR SUPERINTENDENTS.

I WANT TO ASK BOARD SERVICES THAT.

IN 2011, THERE WAS AN RFP FOR SEARCH FIRMS FOR MR. MILES.

IN 2015 THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL FIRM, SEARCH FIRM RFP THAT WENT OUT, BUT THAT WAS CANCELED AND THEY HIRED DR.

HINOJOSA. SO OUR TRADITIONAL SEARCH HAS BEEN AN RFP.

CORRECT. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? THAT IS WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

YES. WHY ARE WE RUSHING THIS PROCESS? SO I'LL JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION, SINCE IT'S ABOUT THE PROCESS, IS I ASKED OUR LEGAL COUNSEL IF THERE WAS A NECESSITY TO DO AN RFP, RFQ PROCESS, THE ANSWER TO THAT WAS NO GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF THE COST.

THEREFORE, WE CHECKED WITH PROCUREMENT AND I ASKED DWAYNE THOMPSON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S REQUIRED OR IF THERE'S A NEED TO.

HE SAID NO.

I THINK HE CHECKED WITH OUR PROCUREMENT LEGAL EXPERTS OUTSIDE THE DISTRICT AS WELL.

THEY SAID NO. THEREFORE, BECAUSE THERE WASN'T A NEED TO DO THAT, I MADE THE DECISION TO ASK FOR OUR LEGAL COUNSEL TO PROVIDE THE NAMES OF THE THREE OR FOUR LARGEST SEARCH FIRMS,

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THE MOST REPUTABLE SEARCH FIRMS. SO THAT'S WHY WE GOT THE FIRST FOUR PRESENTING.

BASED ON FEEDBACK WHEN WE MET THERE THAT THEY WANTED MORE TIME FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO APPLY.

WE LEFT IT OPEN AND PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE, AND I KNOW I THINK OUR PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT OR MR. THOMPSON REACHED OUT TO AS MANY AS HE COULD SEE IN ALL OF THEIR CO-OP'S OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, WHATEVER THEY ARE TO REACH OUT TO SEE IF THEY WANTED TO SUBMIT PROPOSALS.

AND THAT'S HOW WE ARE AT THESE RIGHT NOW.

I'M ASKING YOU TO TABLE THIS AND POSTPONE THIS AND ALLOW US TO FOLLOW A NORMAL PROCESS FOR MORE THAN ONE REASON.

AND THE REASON BEING IS WE JUST HEARD FROM THE OTHER FIRMS TODAY.

I DON'T LISTEN TO I'VE NEVER KNOWN ANYONE TO HAVE AN INTERVIEW AND THEN GET HIRED RIGHT AFTER THE INTERVIEW WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH A FORMAL PROCESS OF THINKING ABOUT IT AND DISCUSSING IT WITH WITH THE TEAM.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH MY COLLEAGUES CONCERNING WHAT WE HEARD TODAY.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO VOTE FOR A JG CONSULTANT, BECAUSE AND I CARRIED THIS FOR A WHILE AND I HAVE NOT SPOKE WITH ANYONE ON THE BOARD CONCERNING THIS MATTER, EXCEPT FOR ONE TRUSTEE RECENTLY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN PRAYING ABOUT A SITUATION THAT I WAS PRESENTED WITH.

WHEN WE WAS HERE LAST AT THE BOARD MEETING LAST TIME WHEN DR.

HINOJOSA AND MYSELF WAS LEAVING THE OTHER ROOM FOR TAKING PICTURES OR ABOUT TO TAKE PICTURES WITH SOUTH OAK CLIFF, I ASKED DR.

HINOJOSA DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THESE PARTICULAR GROUPS TODAY WE JUST HEARD FROM THEM? HIS RESPONSE WAS YES, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THE FIRST GROUP, WHICH IS JG CONSULTANT, BECAUSE THE OLDER GROUPS ARE OLD AND OUTDATED.

WHEN I LOOKED AT THAT PARTICULAR TEAM THAT HE HAS, I LOOKED AND DISCOVERED THAT ONE I THINK MR. FLORES WORKED IN UPPER ADMINISTRATION IN DALLAS ISD.

THE OTHER'S A DESOTO, FORMER SUPERINTENDENT AND THEY WERE STEADY, GIVING DR.

HINOJOSA PRAISE. THAT COMMENT THAT THE OTHER GROUPS WERE OLD AND OUTDATED, HIS COMMENT WAS, SHOWED TO ME IMPLICIT BIAS.

SO IT'S HARD FOR ME AS A PASTOR AND AS A TRUSTEE, TO UNDERSTAND AND KNOW THAT I AM BEING FORCED THAT THIS BOARD IS BEING FORCED TO MAKE A DECISION WITHOUT NUMBER ONE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT THE PRACTICES THAT WE HAVE HAD.

AND TO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR SUPERINTENDENT MADE THAT STATEMENT TO A TRUSTEE CONCERNING THAT PARTICULAR GROUP.

THAT MEANS THAT THE PROCESS HAS BEEN TAINTED.

AND I'M ASKING THE BOARD PRESIDENT TO TABLE THIS SO WE CAN HAVE AN EQUITABLE PROCESS.

THAT COMMENT THAT THEY WERE OLD AND OUTDATED AND THE FIRST GROUP, WHICH IS JG CONSULTING, IS THE GROUP WE SHOULD CHOOSE, SAYS THIS, HE WANTS THAT GROUP.

WE UNDERSTAND WHO HIS SUCCESSOR IS.

SO IF HE WANTS THAT GROUP AND THAT'S HIS SUCCESSOR, THEN THEY MAY BE ON THE SAME PAGE.

THAT'S THE OPTICS.

I CANNOT VOTE FOR ANYTHING WHEN IT'S NOT DONE THE RIGHT WAY.

THAT STATEMENT, IN MY OPINION, HAS TAINTED THIS PROCESS.

SO I'M ASKING THE BOARD PRESIDENT, CAN WE TABLE IT SO WE CAN HAVE A CLOSED SESSION CONCERNING WHAT WAS SAID TO ME [INAUDIBLE] TRUSTEE BY THE SUPERINTENDENT ABOUT JG CONSTRUCTION THAT I NEED IT TO BE FAIR AND I'M GOING PUBLICLY AND SAYING THIS NEEDS TO BE HANDLED DIFFERENTLY.

THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, SO WE'LL TAKE OTHER MOTIONS AS WE GET TO THAT POINT.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE ARE IN DISCUSSION.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, TRUSTEE JOHNSON? NO, I JUST WANT A FAIR PROCESS.

THANK YOU. TRUSTEE MARSHALL.

OH, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS. TRUSTEES, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION HERE.

TRUSTEE CARREÓN. WELL.

I WAS JUST A LOT WAS SAID, TAKE A STEP BACK HERE, JUST SAY JG CONSULTING WAS ONE OF THE GROUPS THAT I CAN SEE MYSELF SUPPORTING, THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY AND EXPERIENCE TO DO A NATIONAL SEARCH.

THEY'VE DONE SEARCHES IN BOSTON HAD A GOOD TRACK RECORD IN HOUSTON WITH SUPERINTENDENT HOUSE IN AUSTIN WITH SUPERINTENDENT ELIZALDE.

CURRENTLY, I THINK WORKING IN SAN ANTONIO SO A GOOD TRACK RECORD IN TEXAS.

AND I THINK THEY'RE ALSO THEY WERE ONE OF MAYBE ONLY TWO FIRMS THAT HAD ACTUALLY LISTED THEIR PRICE AND THEY'RE WITHIN OUR BUDGET.

SO I THOUGHT OVERALL THAT I THOUGHT THEY WERE DEFINITELY ONE OF THE FIRMS THAT I COULD

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SEE MYSELF SUPPORTING. SO I THINK I'LL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE MOTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE CARREÓN.

TRUSTEES IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FOR FIRST ROUND? YEAH. TRUSTEE MARSHALL.

YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHY I MADE THE MOTION, AND I APPRECIATE TRUSTEE CARREÓN FOR POINTING OUT MANY OF THE SAME THINGS I WAS GOING TO SAY.

BUT WHILE THERE WERE A NUMBER OF FIRMS THAT PRESENTED SOME DEGREE OF EXPERIENCE THIS FIRM HAS DONE, THE SUPERINTENDENT SEARCHES FOR FORT WORTH ISD, GARLAND ISD, HOUSTON ISD, BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS, AUSTIN ISD, LAMAR ISD, KANSAS CITY ISD.

I MEAN, ALL THE, THE BREADTH AND DEPTH OF EXPERIENCE OF THIS FIRM TROUNCES ANY OF THE OTHER ONES, JUST TO BE HONEST.

AND WHILE I APPRECIATE SEVERAL OF THOSE OTHER FIRMS WE'VE WORKED WITH SOME OF THOSE FIRMS, I THINK THEY'VE DONE GOOD WORK.

BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, I BELIEVE THAT EXPERIENCE IS CRITICAL AND THERE'S JUST SIMPLY NO PARALLEL BETWEEN THAT FIRM'S EXPERIENCE AND ALL THE OTHERS THAT WE WITNESSED.

SO THAT'S WHY I MADE THE MOTION.

THANK YOU TRUSTEE MARSHALL.

TRUSTEE HENRY.

FIRST ROUND, RIGHT? YEP.

SO FIRST, I HAVE A QUESTION TO THE CHAIR.

SO WHEN WE DID REDISTRICTING, WE HAD MULTIPLE FIRMS. DID YOU ENVISION ANY POSSIBILITY FOR US TO DO MULTIPLE FIRMS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS . IF THE BOARD SO CHOOSES, THAT IS THE BOARD'S ABILITY TO DO SO.

RIGHT. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT PRECLUDES US.

OKAY, SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF AT LEAST ONE OTHER ADDITIONAL FIRM, IN ADDITION TO WHOEVER WE VOTE ON AS THE PRIMARY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS PARTICULARLY LOOKS LIKE.

I STATE THAT CONCERNED AND TRUSTEE JOHNSON, MENTIONED RACIAL EQUITY AND WE HAD ONE PRESENTER TALK ABOUT RACIAL EQUITY.

AND THEN MY COLLEAGUE HERE, TRUSTEE MARSHALL, TALKED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR FIRM TROUNCING AS FAR AS EXPERIENCE.

AND PART OF THE REASON FOLKS CAN TROUNCE EXPERIENCE IS BECAUSE ONCE YOU START GETTING THOSE TYPE OF ISD'S ON YOUR RESUME, YOU REALLY BECOME LIKE A GORILLA IN THE ROOM, AND IT'S HARD FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO GET IN THERE.

AND WE TALK ABOUT THAT A LOT WITH RACIAL EQUITY, WHETHER IT'S OUR CONSTRUCTION OR OUR RESOURCES, IN PARTICULAR SCHOOLS.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THE LAST PRESENTER SITED, OUR AE LOCAL WHICH TRUSTEE MACKEY AS A TRUSTEE, YOU HELPED AMEND TO IMPLEMENT A LOT OF THE RACIAL EQUITY LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE IN THERE.

SO A LOT OF THIS IS I'M GOING TO QUOTE HIM BECAUSE I'M GOING TO STEAL THIS FROM HIM.

BUT YOU KNOW, PART OF THIS IS WHO HAS THE MOST EXPERIENCE.

WE WANT TO GET REALLY STRONG PEOPLE IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT DECISION, BUT ALSO THE CAPACITY BUILDING. I THINK CONSTRUCTION PROVIDES PROBABLY THE QUICKEST ANALYSIS OR PARALLEL.

IF WE WERE TO MAKE THOSE SAME CONVERSATIONS IN THE CONSTRUCTION PIECE, WE WOULD ALWAYS PICK THE SAME BIG FIRMS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

AND WHEN WE HAVE THESE GREAT TRADE PROGRAMS IN OUR DISTRICT, IF A STUDENT WERE TO GRADUATE FROM ONE OF OUR GREAT TRADE PROGRAMS AND CREATE A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY OR AN HVAC COMPANY, COULD THEY EVER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME SORT OF CAPACITY BUILDING IN THE DISTRICT THAT TRAINED THEM ON WHAT THEY DO? AND I THINK THAT'S FOR ME, I TRY TO BE CONSISTENT IN WHATEVER WE'RE DOING IN THAT REGARD.

SO I THINK, YES, WE HAVE A ROLE.

YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GET THE THE BEST POOL OF CANDIDATES POSSIBLE.

AND THAT'S ANOTHER CONVERSATION I HAVE.

BUT WE ALSO, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, HAVE A RULE ON A NEED TO CAPACITY BUILD.

SO THERE'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON THAT'S ABLE TO DO THIS TYPE OF WORK.

I THINK IT ALSO IS GOOD FOR THE COMPETITIVE NATURE IF MORE THAN ONE PERSON DOES HOUSTON ISD AN THE SAN ANTONIO ISD'S AND THE DALLAS ISD'S, AND THAT CREATES A BETTER COMPETITIVE MARKET FOR THIS PARTICULAR INDUSTRY.

SO I MEAN, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THE PROCESS.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S WHY I ASKED IN THE LAST MEETING.

I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES GIVING US ADDITIONAL TIME TO GET THE FIRMS THAT CAME BEFORE TODAY THAT TRUSTEE FOREMAN, YOU'RE CONSISTENT IN YOUR QUESTIONING, YOU KNOW, HEARD ABOUT IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

HEARD ABOUT IT A DIFFERENT WAY ANOTHER WAY.

IT REALLY WASN'T A CONSISTENT MESSAGING, BUT I APPRECIATE US HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST GET THEM IN FRONT OF US.

AND I'M NOT BIG ON, YOU KNOW, DOG AND PONY SHOW TOO I REALLY SERIOUSLY AM CONSIDERING EACH ONE OF THOSE FIRMS THAT CAME BEFORE US TODAY.

BUT I THINK THAT'S ALSO A TESTAMENT.

AGAIN, BACK TO WHAT EQUITY AND WHAT RACIAL EQUITY LOOKS LIKE IN A DISTRICT OR AN INDUSTRY LIKE OURS. THE LAST GENTLEMAN HEARD ABOUT IT PROACTIVELY GOING TO A WEBSITE OR WHATEVER, AND THEN GETTING IT FROM SHANTELL, MS. GRANT AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE CALLED BY THE LAW FIRM THAT YOU REACHED OUT TO DIRECTLY TO APPLY WEEKS AGO.

SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO PUT ALL THAT OUT THERE AS WE HAVE THESE CONSIDERATIONS AND THOUGHTS ON WHO WE CHOOSE.

AND I HAVE SOME MORE TO SAY SECOND ROUND, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I EXPLICITLY STATED THAT ON THE RECORD.

THERE'S A REASON ONE GROUP TROUNCES OTHERS.

THEY STILL CAN BE REALLY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO, BUT THEY TROUNCE BECAUSE THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY.

IT'S THE HISTORY.

AND PART OF OUR ROLE THAT I FEEL LIKE WE'VE COMMITTED TO IS WE'RE A DISTRICT FOR OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR KIDS, FOR OUR STAFF, FOR ADMINISTRATORS, FOR THE PEOPLE WE PARTNERED WITH AND DO BUSINESS WITH IN THIS DISTRICT.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR KIDS THAT WOULD GRADUATE FROM OUR PROGRAMS. I MEAN, LET'S TAKE A STEP BACK.

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COULD A KID THAT GRADUATES FROM ONE OF OUR, YOU KNOW, GREAT PTECH PROGRAMS GET AN OPPORTUNITY. TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M A START UP, I'M GOOD AT WHAT I DO, BUT I NEED AN OPPORTUNITY TO CAPACITY BUILD.

SO THAT KIND OF TIES BACK TO MY INITIAL POINT OF CAN WE DO MORE THAN ONE? AND THAT WILL BE MEANINGFUL FOR ME IF WE CAN CONTINUE TO CAPACITY.

BUT I THINK WALSH GALLEGOS, WELL, THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.

BUT WE'RE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO CAPACITY BUILDING.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW.

TRUSTEE, I MEAN PRESIDENT MACKEY.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEE HENRY. TRUSTEES ANYONE ELSE FOR FIRST ROUND? ALL RIGHT TRUSTEES WE'LL MOVE ONTO SECOND ROUND TRUSTEE FOREMAN.

THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THEY'RE THE LARGEST FIRM EVER, THAT CAN DO THIS WORK. I WONDER HOW MANY TIMES OUR COUNSEL HAS WORKED WITH THIS FIRM SINCE.

HE ALSO HAS A SEARCH FIRM.

THAT'S A TROUBLING SITUATION FOR ME.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SIZE OF A PARTICULAR COMPANY.

THAT'S THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY.

THE GRANDMAMMA HAVE A BUSINESS, PASS IT TO THE DAUGHTER AND THE DAUGHTER PASS IT TO THE SON. THAT'S THE HISTORY.

WE TALK ABOUT RACIAL EQUITY AND DIVERSITY, BUT WE ALWAYS FIND SOME WAY NOT TO PUT IT IN ACTION. WE TALK ABOUT THIS FIRM CAN DO IT FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE SAY WE WANT TO ALLOCATE. LATER ON TODAY, I WILL BE CHALLENGING THIS DISTRICT.

ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH REDISTRICTING.

WE SAID A HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS, AND THEN IT TURNED UP FOR $400,000 DOLLARS.

BECAUSE WE MOVE MONEY JUST LIKE THAT WHEN WE FEEL LIKE DOING IT.

I AM CONCERNED YOU.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU LOOKING AT HIM, HE IS NOT GOING TO CUT ME OFF.

NO. I'M GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT MY TRUTH.

I THINK THIS DISTRICT HAS MOVED FORWARD IN SOME WAYS, AND THEN THERE ARE WAYS WE MOVE BACKWARDS.

PARTICULARLY WHEN WE TRY TO SET THE SCENARIO ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

DR. HINOJOSA IS LEAVING, BUT DR.

HINOJOSA DOES NOT HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CHOOSING HIS SUCCESSOR.

NOT THROUGH RELATIONSHIPS WITH ANYBODY.

IT'S THE BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE HE'S GOING ON, BUT I'M GOING TO STILL BE SITTING HERE.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE BEST PERSON TO COME IN HERE AND CONTINUE TO MOVE THIS DISTRICT IN A POSITIVE WAY.

SO I AM STILL EXTREMELY TROUBLED THAT THE ATTORNEY CHOSEN BY THE BOARD PRESIDENT BEN MACKEY, GAVE THE BOARD PRESIDENT RECOMMENDATIONS OF PEOPLE POSSIBLY THAT HE'S WORKED WITH BECAUSE HE HAS A SEARCH FIRM.

THAT'S TROUBLING.

I DO LIKE TRUSTEE HENRY'S IDEA OF LOOKING AT MORE THAN ONE, A FIRM TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THERE'S A COMFORT LEVEL ON THIS BOARD REGARDING WHO THE NEXT SUPERINTENDENT WILL BE AND THAT IT'S A FAIR SEARCH.

AND NOT, IN FACT, SOMETHING THAT'S TRUMPED UP BY A FEW.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEE FOREMAN.

TRUSTEE GARCIA.

COULD I JUST HAVE VERY QUICKLY, THE NAMES OF THE TWO PREVIOUS SEARCH FIRMS THAT WE WORKED WITH IN THE SUPERINTENDENT SEARCHES FOR BACKGROUND.

GIVE ME A FEW MINUTES, I'LL PULL THAT FOR YOU.

SURE, NO PROBLEM. WAS THAT ALL WHILE SHE'S PULLING THAT? THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OK.

TRUSTEE JOHNSON. I DO CONCUR WITH TRUSTEE MARSHALL WHEN HE SAID EXPERIENCE MATTERS, BUT I WILL ALSO SAY EQUITY MATTERS.

AND I AGREE WITH TRUSTEE HENRY CONCERNING HIS STATEMENT.

I DON'T KNOW NONE OF THESE FIRMS. BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS WHAT WAS SAID TO ME NOW WHEN WE WAS DOING REDISTRICTING IN THAT PARTICULAR REDISTRICTING FIRM AND THIS IS NO PUN INTENDED ON TRUSTEE FLORES.

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BUT WHEN THAT PARTICULAR FIRM SAID TO TRUSTEE FLORES, IT WORKED OUT FOR YOU, DIDN'T IT? THIS WHOLE BOARD CRINGED.

WE WERE LIKE WHAT DID HE JUST SAY? THE SAME THING JUST HAPPENED TO ME.

AND I DIDN'T GO ON NO FACEBOOK POST, I DIDN'T POST SOCIAL MEDIA.

I WAS LITERALLY PRAYING ABOUT IT BECAUSE I WAS DISTURBED.

SO EVEN THOUGH.

THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION OR PRESENTED TO THIS BOARD, I'M ASKING THE BOARD PRESIDENT IF IT WAS FAIR.

WHEN THAT WAS DONE CONCERNING REDISTRICTING, WHY WOULD WE IGNORE IT NOW? IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT AGE THEY WERE, IF THEY WAS YOUNG, IF THEY WERE OLD.

THAT STATEMENT WAS NOT PROFESSIONAL AND IT WAS NOT RIGHT.

AND IT SHOWED EXPLICIT BIAS.

I'M ASKING THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND THIS BOARD, WHO I RESPECT.

CAN WE HAVE A FAIR PROCESS, A MORE EQUITABLE PROCESS? I CANNOT SUPPORT THAT.

THAT'S WRONG. THAT CLEARLY SAYS TO ME WHEN HE MADE THAT STATEMENT, THAT'S WHO I SHOULD VOTE FOR. I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT.

I CAN'T MY TRUSTEES DON'T EVEN TELL ME THAT, THEY DON'T EVEN, YOU GUYS DON'T MAKE THAT STATEMENT TO ME WHAT I SHOULD VOTE FOR.

BEEN ON THIS BOARD THREE YEARS.

NO ONE HAS EVER SAID THAT TO ME.

SO I'M ASKING THIS BOARD, WILL YOU PLEASE ALLOW US TO MEET IN A CLOSED SESSION SO WE CAN DISCUSS THIS MATTER FURTHER BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION.

THAT'S MY REQUEST.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE JOHNSON.

TRUSTEE MICCICHE. YEAH, I'M LISTENING TO SOME OF THE DISCUSSION AND , YOU KNOW, I'M NOT BOTHERED THAT DR.

HINOJOSA HAS AN OPINION AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ASK FOR HIS OPINION AND HE GIVES IT TO YOU, IT DOESN'T. I DON'T, YOU KNOW, WHEN I ASK HIM FOR OPINIONS, I DON'T ACCEPT THEM SOMETIMES. POINT OF REFERENCE TRUSTEE MACKEY, I DIDN'T ASK FOR HIS OPINION.

IT'S TRUSTEE MICCICHE'S. OK.

I'M SORRY, THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT.

BUT MY WHOLE POINT IS THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT CAN HAVE AN OPINION, BUT IT'S OUR DECISION.

AND YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF TIMES WHEN I'VE AGREED WITH HIM AND DISAGREED WITH HIM OVER THE TIME HE'S BEEN HERE.

BUT IT'S OK FOR HIM TO HAVE AN OPINION, IT'S JUST THAT IT'S UP TO US TO WEIGH WHETHER IT MATTERS OR NOT OR WHETHER WE AGREE WITH IT.

SO, THAT PART DOESN'T BOTHER ME.

I AM PERSUADED BY THE EQUITY ISSUE THAT AND WHAT WE DID, I THINK WITH REDISTRICTING WAS WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO GET BOTH EXPERIENCE AND OPEN THE DOOR TO MORE EQUITY IN THE PROCESS.

SO I WOULD BE OPEN TO DOING THAT IN THIS CASE.

I DID SEE THAT WAS IT JG, GJ? WHAT? JG. YEAH, I DID SAY THIS MORNING THAT THEY WERE CITED IN I THINK EDUCATION WEEK OR THEY CITED THE SAN ANTONIO SEARCH AND I SENT YOU A COPY OF THE MATERIALS THEY PREPARED.

IT JUST SHOWED UP THIS MORNING IN A NEWSLETTER.

AND I THOUGHT THEY WERE PRETTY THOROUGH AND I THOUGHT THEIR PRESENTATION WAS GOOD.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THEM.

THEY SEEM TO BE QUITE COMPETENT.

I WOULDN'T RULE THEM OUT BECAUSE THE SUPERINTENDENT THOUGHT THEY WERE GOOD.

I MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM JUST BECAUSE HE THINKS THEY'RE GOOD.

BUT I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN COME UP WITH A WAY ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT TRUSTEE HENRY HAS SUGGESTED OF MAKING SURE THAT WE GET BOTH EXPERIENCE AND EQUITY INVOLVED. THANKS.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEE MICCICHE.

ANYONE ELSE FOR SECOND ROUND? GO AHEAD, TRUSTEE HENRY. SO I DON'T KNOW BEFORE THE BOARD, CONSIDERS THIS VOTE AT A MINIMUM I KNOW TRUSTEE JOHNSON MADE HIS PLEA, BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AT A MINIMUM BEFORE WE CHOOSE AN EXPERIENCED CANDIDATE I WOULD LIKE US TO THINK ABOUT CAPACITY BUILDING. SO I JUST WANT THAT OUT THERE AGAIN.

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TRUSTEE FLORES. I MEAN, I SECONDED THE MOTION, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF JG OR GJ OR WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED, BUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ALONG THE SAME LINES AS TRUSTEE HENRY JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY WOULD, THEN, YOU KNOW, THE IN TERMS OF THE EUGENE & ASSOCIATES, FOLKS, I MEAN, IN TERMS OF CAPACITY BUILDING, MAYBE THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THEM AND TAKE THEM UNDER THEIR WING AND SAY, HEY, LOOK, THIS IS THE, YOU KNOW POSSIBLE TO WORK TOGETHER TO GET THEM SOME EXPERIENCE.

I MEAN, I. BECAUSE I WAS HEARING IT ON THE WAY IN.

I HAD MINE, I WAS LISTENING IN THE CAR AND MAN, I'M ALL FOR CAPACITY BUILDING AND FOLKS, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE THEM LEAD A SEARCH FOR A DALLAS ISD, RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY'VE NEVER DONE IT BEFORE.

ON THE OTHER HAND, THESE OTHER FOLKS HAVE DONE IT BEFORE, BUT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT, I THINK THEY'D BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUT AND KIND OF LEARN FROM THE REAL EXPERTS, FOLKS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THE REAL MCCOY.

AND IF THEY COULD REACH OUT TO THEM AND WORK WITH THEM, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY BENEFICIAL.

I MEAN, EUGENE & ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO PUT THIS TOGETHER. I MEAN, THERE WERE A LITTLE LACKING IN DIVERSITY THEMSELVES, BUT I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I THINK THAT WORKING WITH ANOTHER FIRM THAT DOES BRING THAT ACCESS TO, YOU KNOW, OTHER LANGUAGES AS TRUSTEE GARCIA MENTIONED EARLIER IN ONE OF HER QUESTIONS.

I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A REALLY GOOD, SOLID, YOU KNOW, TEAM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND TO DO SO WITH SOME ALACRITY.

SO I LISTEN TO TRUSTEE HENRY LOUD AND CLEAR.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE FIRM WOULD BE, I THINK, IMPORTANT. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE FLORES, ANYONE ELSE FOR SECOND ROUND? ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A PARLIAMENTARY QUESTION.

SORRY, TRUSTEE. NO YOU ALREADY HAD YOUR SECOND ROUND.

WELL I HAD A [INAUDIBLE] INFORMATION.

OK, GO AHEAD. WHAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN TO GET TO YEAH, THAT WAS MY PARLIAMENTARY QUESTION.

IF THE BOARD TAKES THIS VOTE, ARE THEY ABLE TO PROPOSE A MOTION ON A SECOND FIRM BASED ON HOW OUR AGENDA IS POSTED? WOULD WE NEED TO AMEND THIS VOTE, IF THAT WERE THE MOTION, IF THAT WERE TO BE SOMETHING CONSIDERED, OR WOULD WE POST FOR IT AT A FUTURE MEETING? THAT MIGHT BE MORE.

YOU HAVE NOT DISCUSSED HAVING A SECOND FIRM.

THIS IS A NEW IDEA TODAY.

SO PERHAPS THAT NEEDS TO BE POSTED.

WHAT DOES YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL SAY ON THAT? BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE ONLY DISCUSSED HAVING ONE FIRM.

CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVER BEEN SPECIFIED.

CONSIDERING MAYBE IT'S AN A FIRM, BUT I THINK REGARDLESS, I THINK IF WE NEED TO GET CLARITY ON THAT, WHAT I'M SAYING WE COULD DO IF WE DON'T HAVE CLARITY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION AT THIS MOMENT, WE COULD POST FOR THAT AT THE UPCOMING MARCH BRIEFING AS AN ACTION ITEM OR WHATNOT. TRUSTEE MACKEY, IF I MAY, I BELIEVE YOU CAN HAVE MULTIPLE MOTIONS ON A SINGLE POSTED AGENDA ITEM.

IS THAT CORRECT? ASK YOUR ATTORNEY.

YOUR ATTORNEY. SHE'S NOT HERE? I'M FAIRLY CONFIDENT YOU CAN, SO WE CAN WAIT FOR AN ATTORNEY OPINION IF WE NEED TO, BUT I BELIEVE YOU CAN HAVE AS LONG AS IT'S ON THE SAME POSTED AGENDA ITEM, YOU CAN HAVE MULTIPLE MOTIONS. SO MY BELIEF IS THAT WE COULD VOTE ON THIS MOTION.

IT PASSES OR IT FAILS.

AND EVEN IF IT PASSES, TRUSTEE HENRY COULD MAKE A SECOND MOTION TO SELECT THAT FIRM.

AND IF THAT'S SECONDED, WE CAN VOTE ON THAT AND PASS THAT AS WELL.

SO WE NEED AN ATTORNEY'S OPINION.

PAM, ARE YOU GOING TO CALL RAMONA? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL TAKE A BRIEF RECESS UNTIL WE GET A CLARITY HERE.

ALL RIGHT, THE TIME IS 3:52 AND WE ARE COMING BACK FROM RECESS.

OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, RAMONA SOTO, HAS JOINED US VIA ZOOM.

RAMONA, THE QUESTION IS IF WE ARE POSTED TO TAKE ACTION ON A SEARCH FIRM THIS EVENING AND THE BOARD CHOOSES TO TAKE ACTION AND WANTS TO MAKE A SECOND MOTION OR A THIRD MOTION TO ADD OTHER SEARCH FIRMS, ARE WE ABLE TO DO THAT UNDER THIS AGENDA POSTING? YES. OK.

THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILED ANSWER.

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APPRECIATE IT. NO PROBLEM.

[LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT. SO TRUSTEES, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THIS MOTION.

WE HAVE JUST COMPLETED SECOND ROUND AND THEN WE WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY ADDITIONAL MOTIONS THAT WANT TO BE MOVED AND DISCUSSED.

SO GIVEN THAT THERE ARE NO ONE ELSE FOR SECOND ROUND, TRUSTEES, YOU MAY CAST YOUR VOTE.

POINT OF INFORMATION, PRESIDENT MACKEY.

YES. CAN YOU READ THE MOTION WE'RE VOTING ON? CAN YOU? SO THE MOTION IS.

I'VE READ THIS SAME MOTION CONSIDER AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION TO SELECT JG CONSULTING TO ASSIST THE DISTRICT IN CONDUCTING A SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES, AND NEGOTIATE AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE SELECTED FIRM TO ASSIST THE DISTRICT IN HIRING THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS NOT TO EXCEED ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND GENERAL OPERATING FUNDS. THANK YOU.

THE MOTION PASSES, SEVEN VOTING YES AND TWO VOTING NO.

THANK YOU TRUSTEES, YOU HAVE ADOPTED THE MOTION TO SELECT JG CONSULTING AS A SEARCH FIRM TO ASSIST THE DISTRICT IN CONDUCTING THE SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH.

TRUSTEES ARE THERE ANY OTHER MOTIONS TO BE MADE AT THIS TIME? YES. TRUSTEE FOREMAN.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE ADD WALSH GALLEGOS AS A SECOND FIRM REGARDING THE SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH. IT HAS BEEN MOVED, IS THERE A SECOND.

I SECOND.

COULD I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION? GO AHEAD. SO.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SECOND, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ONE FIRM IS GOING TO DO? ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE PARALLEL WHERE THEY'RE DOING THE SAME THING FOR BOTH? THAT'S MY INTENTIONS WITH MY MOTION IS THAT IT'S PARALLEL SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH REDISTRICTING.

OK. I SECOND AND WE'LL DISCUSS.

OK, IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO SELECT WALSH GALLEGOS AS AN ADDITIONAL SEARCH FIRM TO ASSIST IN THE PROCESS.

MOVED BY TRUSTEE FOREMAN THE SECOND IS BY TRUSTEE HENRY.

TRUSTEES IS THEIR DISCUSSION.

TRUSTEE MARSHALL. SO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO TRUSTEE FOREMAN AND HENRY AND TO WALSH GALLEGOS WHO I THOUGHT DID A GOOD JOB WITH REDISTRICTING, I AM HIGHLY CONCERNED WITH THE NOTION OF HAVING TWO FIRMS THAT ARE BOTH CONSIDERED PRIMARY.

I WOULD BE MORE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A SITUATION WHERE ONE WAS SECONDARY, ALTHOUGH I HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT AS WELL.

BUT WITH BOTH FIRMS BEING, AS YOU DESCRIBED IT, PARALLEL, I THINK THAT THE MECHANICS OF THE SEARCH ITSELF, IF YOU GET DOWN INTO THE NITTY-GRITTY OF THE PROJECT PLAN AND YOU THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHO'S INTERVIEWING, WHO'S DOING PRELIMINARY INTERVIEWS OF CANDIDATES, WHO'S SENDING OUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SURVEYS, WHO'S DOING PERSONALITY PROFILES, WHO'S DOING BACKGROUND CHECKS, I MEAN, ARE WE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING TWICE OR ARE WE GOING TO WAIT FOR ONE FIRM TO DO IT? AND THEN ANOTHER FIRM DOES IT? AND IF THEY DISAGREE, THEN HOW ARE THINGS TIE BROKEN LIKE IT JUST SEEMS TO ME LIKE THE DAY TO DAY MECHANICS OF THAT WOULD BE NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO DETERMINE HOW THEY WOULD PLAY OUT. IT ALSO SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD CREATE SOME CONFLICT BETWEEN THE TWO SEARCH FIRMS AND THAT IT'S LIKELY TO SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS, WHICH I'M NOT INTERESTED IN DOING.

I THINK WE TEE UP OUR NEXT SUPERINTENDENT FOR A LOT OF OBSTACLES IF HE OR SHE ENTERS AT ANY OTHER TIME BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.

AND I THINK IT'S A MORE RESPONSIBLE DECISION OF THIS BOARD FOR US TO TEE THAT SUPERINTENDENT UP FOR SUCCESS BY HAVING THEM HIM OR HER IN PLACE BEFORE THE SCHOOL YEAR.

AND I THINK ADDING TO SEARCH FIRMS, PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE ON PARALLEL FOOTING, HAS A HIGH POTENTIAL TO SLOW THAT DOWN.

SO I WILL DEFINITELY OPPOSE THAT MOTION.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEE MARSHALL. TRUSTEE FOREMAN, FOLLOWED BY TRUSTEE JOHNSON.

SO WHEN WE DID REDISTRICTING, WE DIDN'T NAME ANY ONE PARTICULAR FIRM AS THE LEAD DID WE? I'M ASKING THE ADMINISTRATION.

WHEN WE DID REDISTRICTING, DID WE NAME A FIRM AS THE LEAD? NO, WE DIDN'T. WE DID NOT.

AND THEY FIGURED OUT A WAY TO WORK TOGETHER.

AND HOW MANY FIRMS DID WE HAVE? TWO.

WE HAD TWO THAT FIGURED OUT A WAY TO WORK TOGETHER, BUT NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HAVE TWO FIRMS THAT CAN WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE

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RIGHT SUPERINTENDENT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.

AND I'D ASK THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS IF YOU DID ANY WORK DURING REDISTRICTING WITH THESE FIRMS, I NEVER SAW A CONFLICT.

I MIGHT NOT HAVE LIKED WHAT CAME OUT OF SOME OF MY MEETINGS, BUT I NEVER SAW A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE TWO FIRMS. SO WHY IS IT A CONFLICT NOW? IT'S A CONFLICT NOW BECAUSE CERTAIN PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD JUST WANT ONE [INAUDIBLE] FIRM.

THAT'S WHY IT'S A CONFLICT.

AND THAT'S CRAZY.

WE HAVE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS SO THAT THE WHOLE PROCESS HAS BEEN DONE WRONG TO START WITH.

WE SHOULD HAVE GONE OUT FOR A PROCUREMENT.

THE WHOLE PROCESS HAS BEEN DONE WRONG, WE'VE DONE IT THROUGH PROCUREMENT BEFORE, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GOT AN ATTORNEY AND A BOARD PRESIDENT WHO DECIDES THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE IT BY THE REINS AND DO WHAT THEY FEEL LIKE IS BEST FOR ALL THE REST OF US.

THAT'S WRONG. NOW WE TALK ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO FIND SOME KIND OF JUSTICE IN THE SYSTEM. AND HERE WE GET ANOTHER PUSHBACK.

WE JUST WENT THROUGH REDISTRICTING WITH MORE THAN ONE FIRM, BUT NOW TWO FIRMS CAN'T WORK TOGETHER, REALLY.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEE FOREMAN.

TRUSTEE JOHNSON, FOLLOWED BY TRUSTEE CARREÓN.

I AGREE WITH TRUSTEE FOREMAN, I ALSO AGREE WITH TRUSTEE HENRY'S PROPOSAL TO ADD THE OTHER FIRM TO WG SEARCH FIRM TO BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS.

AGAIN, WE DID SEE THE CAMARADERIE AND THE SYNERGY THAT WAS CREATED WITH THOSE FIRMS WITH THE DISTRICT WHEN WE DID REDISTRICTING.

I'M SUPPORTING EQUITY AND THAT'S EQUITABLE TO ME.

IT BALANCES OUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'M FEELING, AND IT SHOWS THAT WE ARE PROMOTING EQUITY FROM THIS BOARD AND SO TRUSTEE HENRY THANK YOU FOR THAT PROPOSAL.

I WILL BE SUPPORTING THAT.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEE JOHNSON.

TRUSTEE CARREÓN. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE JUST CONCERNS REGARDING THE BUDGET FOR THIS SERVICE.

GIVEN OUR EXPERIENCE WITH HAVING TWO FIRMS DURING REDISTRICTING.

IT WAS JUST THE REDISTRICTING SERVICE, THE REDISTRICTING BILL WAS JUST WAY TOO MUCH, AND I THINK IN PART HAD TO DO WITH WITH HAVING TO PAY TWO FIRMS. THAT'S A LONG WAY OF SAYING ONE OF THE REASONS I VOTED IN SUPPORT OF JG IS THAT THEY TOLD US WHAT THEIR PRICE WAS IN THEIR PRESENTATION.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS WITH WALSH GALLEGOS.

AND SO I WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEE CARREÓN.

ANYONE ELSE FOR FIRST ROUND? YEAH. TRUSTEE HENRY.

YES, I'LL BE THINKING, PRESIDENT MACKEY I DO HERE TRUSTEE MARSHALL'S CONCERNS, I'M LOOKING AT BOTH OF THESE SEARCH PROCESSES AS SCHEDULED, THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP WHERE THERE'S PLANNING, DISCUSSIONS, RECRUITMENT, SCREENING THEIR TIMINGS ARE VERY SIMILAR.

I DO THINK EACH OF THESE FIRMS ARE ACTUALLY POTENTIALLY COULD BRING SOMETHING TO THE TABLE THAT THE OTHER ONE COULDN'T.

JG, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE EXPERIENCE THEY HAVE FROM DOING LARGE FIRMS, THEY EVEN HAVE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE.

THEY USE THE WONDERLIC AND SOME OTHER STUFF, THE INTERVIEWING INTERACTIONS THEY HAVE THAT YOU BUILD THAT TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN YOU'RE DOING LARGE SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH LIKE THEY'RE DOING. BUT THERE'S POSITIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE, I THINK, WALSH, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T REPRESENT SUPERINTENDENTS.

THEY WERE CLEAR ON THAT.

SO THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACCESS A LARGER POOL.

TO ME AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GETTING HIGH QUALITY.

WE TALK ABOUT CAPACITY BUILDING, BUT ALSO THE IDEA OF GETTING THE BEST POOL POSSIBLE.

AND IF THERE'S FOLKS THAT FEEL LIKE.

I'VE HAD COMMUNICATIONS WITH FOLKS ABOUT THIS, THAT, YOU KNOW THERE ARE RELATIONSHIPS BUILT WHEN YOU DO A LOT OF BIG SEARCH FIRMS OR YOU'RE INTERACTING WITH THESE LARGE, YOU KNOW, THESE SUPERINTENDENTS OF LARGE DISTRICTS.

SO YOU MIGHT BE MORE LIMITED IF YOU GO THAT ROUTE, SO, YOU KNOW, EXPANDING THE POOL AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FOR OUR KIDS AND OUR DISTRICT IS BETTER TO ME THAN AND MIGHT THERE BE A COST OF THAT? YEAH. OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU'RE HIRING TWO PEOPLE, I'M SURE THEY CAN WORK BETWEEN THE TWO TO FIND OUT EFFICIENCIES.

A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS OVERLAP.

THERE'S SOME AGAIN, THINGS THAT EACH ONE OF THEM HAVE THAT THE OTHER ONE DOESN'T.

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BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THE SCHEDULE LOOKS SIMILAR.

COST, I THINK, REDISTRICTING.

YOU KNOW, I LOOKED AT THE BILLING FROM THE FIRMS, FROM REDISTRICTING.

I MEAN, WE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

I MEAN, IF YOU JUST THINK ABOUT TIME PREPARING FOR A COMMUNITY MEETING OR ATTENDING A COMMUNITY MEETING, THERE WERE LONG COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

THEY WERE ALL ACROSS THE DISTRICT THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THEIR OWN TIME.

WE ASKED THEM TO REDRAW A MAP.

I MEAN, WHAT WAS THE MAP WE ENDED UP APPROVING? Z. SO WE WENT FROM A TO Z AND IN DRAWING A MAP ALL THAT TAKES TIME IN THE LEGAL PRACTICE YOU BILL FOR YOUR TIME.

SO I THINK, YES, AS A PRODUCT, WE HAD MULTIPLE FIRMS, BUT ALSO WE ASKED A LOT OF THOSE FIRMS DURING REDISTRICTING, A LARGE COMMITMENT OF TIME AND THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE COST UP . IF THERE'S ANYONE TO BLAME FOR THE COST IT'S US FOR HAVING SO MANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS, ASKING, I MEAN, I ASKED THEM LAST SECOND TO AMEND THE MAP TO Z BECAUSE WE HAD A MISCOMMUNICATION ON, YOU KNOW, SOME OVERLAP IN OUR DISTRICT.

SO WE ASKED A LOT OF THOSE FIRMS. I THOUGHT FROM MY OPINION THEY DID, ALL OF THEM DID A GOOD JOB.

BUT I THINK WITHOUT DIGGING INTO THE LINE ITEM COSTS I THANK YOU FOR CIRCULATING THAT, SHANTELL GRANT. YOU'LL SEE WHERE THEY SPENT THEIR TIME.

I DON'T THINK THEY WERE WASTING, YOU KNOW, THEY WEREN'T BILLING US FOR WASTEFUL TIME THEY WERE SERVING US, AND THAT ADDS UP.

IF TRUSTEE FOREMAN ASKED THEM TO HAVE A MEETING AT FIVE, THEN THEY WERE THEY WERE THERE.

[INAUDIBLE] DURING THE MEETING, WHETHER I HAD ONE CALL OR I DIDN'T HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE ON THERE, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE ON THE CALL.

THEY SAT THROUGH IT, GAVE THE SAME PRESENTATION THEY GAVE WHEN THERE WAS 30 PEOPLE.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT WALSH GALLEGOS I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT COLLECTIVE OF FIRMS. SO I'M NOT, THEY WERE PART OF THAT.

SO I MEAN, YEAH, I GET THE CALLS, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHEN YOU GO DEEP AND REALLY HAVE SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSIONS WITH INDIVIDUAL TRUSTEES, FOLKS IN THEIR COMMUNITY, THAT'S JUST TIME AND TIME TIMES, A DOLLAR AMOUNT ADDS UP.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THE FIRST ROUND, BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE THE IDEA TO MATCH, FRANKLY, THE EXPERTISE OF ONE WITH THE CAPACITY BUILDING OF ANOTHER, SO THERE'S MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING PERSONAL TO ME, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING OUR BOARD HAS BEEN COMMITTED TO IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEE HENRY. TRUSTEE MICCICHE.

YEAH, I'VE BEEN IN SITUATIONS AS A LAWYER WHERE IT TURNS OUT THAT MORE THAN ONE LAW FIRM IS HIRED TO REPRESENT THE CLIENT, AND WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK. AND EVEN THOUGH AS THE SERVICE PROVIDER IN MY OWN EXAMPLES, YOU KNOW, WE'D PREFER TO JUST DO IT ALL BY OURSELVES, BUT WE ALWAYS FOUND A WAY TO DIVIDE UP THE WORK, AND I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT WE HAVE IS EASIER TO DIVIDE.

I MEAN, BECAUSE WE ARE WE'RE LOOKING FOR CANDIDATES AND THEY HAVE NETWORKS OF CANDIDATES THAT THEY MIGHT SUGGEST AND THEY CAN FIGURE OUT WHO'S GOT THE BEST RELATIONSHIP WITH WHAT POTENTIAL CANDIDATE AND THEN SPLIT UP THE ONES THAT YOU KNOW, SEEM MOST LOGICAL.

SO I THINK WE CAN DO TWO OF THEM.

IT'S NOT AS EFFICIENT IF YOU JUST GAVE IT TO ONE FIRM, BUT IF YOU JUST GAVE IT TO ONE FIRM, WHAT YOU GAIN IN EFFICIENCY, YOU MIGHT LOSE IN EQUITY.

AND SO I'M HOPEFUL WE CAN DO BOTH OF THEM, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY DOUBTS THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEE MICCICHE.

TRUSTEE GARCIA, FOLLOWED BY TRUSTEE FLORES.

I JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN THE CONVERSATION WITH JUST GIVEN OUR RECENT EXPERIENCE WITH ONE OF THESE. WELL, WITH THE PARTNER HERE IN THE MOTION? IT WAS IN MY EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAD AN EXCELLENT EXPERIENCE IN A SEPARATE IN THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS. AND I THINK TRUSTEE HENRY, YOU WERE ALLUDING TO THE WORK, THE EXTENSIVE WORK THAT WAS DONE IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

AND I WOULD EXPECT NOTHING LESS IN THIS PROCESS AS WELL.

SO JUST MAKING IT UP TO MY COLLEAGUES TO CONSIDER WHO WE HAVE BEFORE US NOW AND WHAT THAT COULD MEAN FOR OUR SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE GARCIA.

TRUSTEE FLORES. YEAH, AND I'M YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING UP ON, YOU KNOW WHAT TRUSTEE HENRY SAID IN TERMS OF CAPACITY BUILDING AND I DON'T SEE ANY NEED FOR, YOU KNOW, BUILD ANY CAPACITY WITH WALSH GALLEGOS.

I MEAN, THEY THEY HELPED US WITH THE REDISTRICTING AND I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THERE.

I GUESS THEY DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY IN- HOUSE, SO THEY HAVE SOMEBODY OUT-HOUSE THAT HELPS THEM. AND LOOKING AT THEIR SEARCHES, AND I THINK THE LARGEST DISTRICT ON THIS LIST MAY BE RED OAK. OH, MAYBE EL PASO, BUT I JUST I DON'T FEEL THAT I'M NOT COMPELLED BY THE CAPACITY BUILDING ARGUMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR FIRM ON THIS MOTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE FLORES, ANYONE ELSE FOR FIRST ROUND?

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DO YOU.

GO AHEAD, TRUSTEE IS IMPORTANT. CAN WE TAKE A RECESS OR MOMENT FOR [INAUDIBLE], PLEASE? [LAUGHTER] I'M SORRY. SO YEAH, WE COULD TAKE A RECESS FOR TWO MINUTES.

CAN I? I'LL BE BRIEF, I WANTED TO SPEAK TO TRUSTEE FLORES' POINT.

YEAH, I AGREE. REGARDING THE CAPACITY IS MORE COMPELLING, I THINK FOR ME WITH EUGENE & ASSOCIATES. I DO THINK THERE'S ALSO CAPACITY BUILDING WITH WALSH GALLEGOS [INAUDIBLE] THE QUESTION FOR US THAT WAS ASKED WAS WHAT IS THE LARGEST? FIFTY THOUSAND IS LARGE, BUT IT'S NOT HOUSTON ISD, IT'S NOT DISD.

IT'S NOT SAN ANTONIO ISD.

THERE'S STILL. ONE OF THE CRITIQUES I THINK OF THEIR PRESENTATION HERE WAS THAT THEY HADN'T DONE A DISTRICT THE SIZE OF OURS, BUT I THINK IF THEY WORK WITH US IN THE FUTURE, THEY CAN GO TO WHATEVER IT IS HOUSTON ISD AND SAY WE'VE DONE OR PARTICIPATED IN A SELECTION PROCESS WITH THE DISTRICT AS LARGEST AS DISD AND I THINK THAT IS CAPACITY BUILDING. AGAIN, I THINK IT'S MORE PERSUASIVE FOR ME.

AND I THINK WHAT I HEARD FROM TRUSTEE FLORES AS WELL WITH EUGENE, BUT IT'S WHAT WE HAVE ON THE TABLE. THANK YOU.

TRUSTEES, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, TRUSTEES YOU MAY NOW CAST YOUR VOTE.

THE MOTION PASSES 5 VOTING YES AND 4 VOTING NO.

THANK YOU, TRUSTEES.

YOU HAVE JUST ADOPTED THE MOTION TO SELECT WALSH GALLEGOS TO ASSIST THE DISTRICT IN CONDUCTING A SUPERINTENDENT SEARCH FIRM AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES, AND NEGOTIATE AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH SELECTED SEARCH FIRMS TO ASSIST THE DISTRICT IN HIRING THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS NOT TO EXCEED ONE HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

TRUSTEES ARE THERE ANY FURTHER MOTIONS? SEEING NONE, THE TIME IS NOW 4:12 P.M.

AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.